Viscount724
Topic Author
Posts: 18974
Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:32 pm

Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:13 am

Came across an interesting site (address in watermark in lower right hand corner of photo below) with hundreds of old photos I'd never seen before, mostly of propeller types but also some early jets. Few of the photos have dates or locations.

The Pan Am DC-6B photo below caught my eye, obviously dating from the 1950s based on the livery. Can anyone identify the airport?

http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-N7FkvRFrRBM/S87EMziJbtI/AAAAAAAAXqc/CSpHCERhx08/s768/N6534C_DC6_PAN+AMERICAN_42286_1024.jpg
 
mercure1
Posts: 2754
Joined: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:13 am

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:54 am

Reminds me of Kabul.
 
aeroblogger
Posts: 1380
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:53 am

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:13 am

Very interesting website... Thanks for sharing
Airports 2012: IXE HYD DEL BLR BOM CCU KNU KTM BKK SIN ICN LAX BUR SFO PHX IAH ORD EWR PHL PVD BOS FRA MUC IST
 
Independence76
Posts: 401
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:59 pm

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:32 am

I'm my guess would be somewhere in South America. Definitely cannot be sure of precisely where.
 
AR385
Posts: 6742
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2003 8:25 am

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:42 am

It looks like LPB to me.
 
xjet
Posts: 405
Joined: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:09 am

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:26 am

Looks maybe like Caracas?
 
rb211-524h
Posts: 48
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 1999 8:16 pm

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:45 am

I'm pretty sure that is Hong Kong Kaitak with Kowloon mountains in the background in the 50s before all the high rises were built.

Check this out for comparison: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Thai-...d=242d91f77c44283748f50b92cd6c81de
 
rb211-524h
Posts: 48
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 1999 8:16 pm

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:50 am

Here's the search I used: http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...f50b92cd6c81de&sort_order=year+asc

I recognized the topography because my grandfather lives in a public housing estate on the hill at the foot of the mountains, an area known as 'choi hung'
 
Btblue
Posts: 534
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:57 am

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:52 am

Yep - that's Kowloon. Well spotted rb211-524h

Amazing how the landscape has changed there beyond recognition.
146/2/3 737/2/3/4/5/7/8/9 A320 1/2/18/19/21 DC9/40/50 DC10/30 A300/6 A330/2/3 A340/3/6 A380 757/2/3 747/4 767/3/4 787 77
 
Aircellist
Posts: 1250
Joined: Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:43 am

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:03 pm

Almost unbelievable! Just one lifespan!...
"When I find out I was wrong, I change my mind. What do you do?" -attributed to John Maynard Keynes
 
BoeingGuy
Posts: 3935
Joined: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:01 pm

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:09 pm

Quoting AR385 (Reply 4):
It looks like LPB to me.

Definitely not LPB. LBP is up on the flat plains above the city, which sits in a bowl. The nearest mountains look nothing like that and are nowhere near that close. Have you been there, or did you just make a wild guess?
 
CZ346
Posts: 95
Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:57 pm

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:27 pm

Quoting rb211-524h (Reply 6):

Now THAT is impressive! Good eye...

I spend pretty much every weekend in Hong Kong and would NEVER have guessed that. Amazing what that amount of time and a couple of societal revolutions can do to a town, eh?
 
timz
Posts: 6100
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 1999 7:43 am

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:33 pm

Any way to know whether it's before the 1958 runway opened? No idea when PA DC-6Bs got prop spinners
 
sparky35805
Posts: 180
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:27 pm

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:25 pm

The 6B has radar,so probably 1956-59.Mel Lawrence has photos on A.net from Honk Kong during the late 50s-early 60s before all the high rises were built.
Sparky
 
Viscount724
Topic Author
Posts: 18974
Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:32 pm

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:40 pm

Quoting rb211-524h (Reply 6):
I'm pretty sure that is Hong Kong Kaitak with Kowloon mountains in the background in the 50s before all the high rises were built.

I'm sure that's it. Thanks. That's one that didn't cross my mind. I was thinking more of somewhere like Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan or maybe South America, althouth most of the mountainous cities down the west coast of South America were served by Panagra (50% owned by Pan Am, merged with Braniff in 1967), not Pan Am itself.
 
dave2
Posts: 29
Joined: Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:58 am

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:21 pm

That is the old Hong Kong airport. Guess late 1950s for the photo.
 
ChazPilot
Posts: 84
Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:46 am

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:54 am

If that's Kai Tak, either HK was in the middle of it's worth drought ever or it only became a sub-tropical climate since this photo was taken!
 
jsnww81
Posts: 2297
Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2002 3:29 am

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:45 am

Quoting ChazPilot (Reply 16):

If that's Kai Tak, either HK was in the middle of it's worth drought ever or it only became a sub-tropical climate since this photo was taken!

That was my thinking too - the mountains in Hong Kong are far greener than that. My guess is Tehran's Mehrabad airport, which until the 1960s was pretty much out in the countryside and has the Alborz Mountains pretty close by. PA had a reasonably large presence at THR for most of its life, up until 1979, anyhow.
 
mercure1
Posts: 2754
Joined: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:13 am

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:36 am

I still say its Kabul...

Google aerial shot of Kabul, and you can still see the outline of that building in the background to the north of the field.

Another hint for me is the diagonal taxiway in front of the PA plane. Kabul has one just like it leading to the terminal ramp.
 
Viscount724
Topic Author
Posts: 18974
Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:32 pm

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:54 am

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 18):
I still say its Kabul...

It's definitely the old HKG Kai Tak. Look at the 1959 photo of the Thai Airways DC-4 at HKG in reply 6, taken at almost exactly the same location. You can even see some of the same buildings in the background, including the building directly in line with the Pan Am DC-6B's wing, the bottom of which is also visible under the TG DC-4's fuselage. The white building (the highest building on the mountainside) above the DC-6B's forward fuselage is also visible in the DC-4 photo.

And note the rock formation at the top left hand corner of the DC-4 photo. That's known as "Lion Rock", a famous HKG landmark. Will repeat that photo here for convenience.


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Mel Lawrence

 
Kent350787
Posts: 847
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 12:06 am

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:57 am

Wow, I must be a plane geek - I immediately thought Kai Tak!  
 
rampart
Posts: 1798
Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:58 am

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:59 am

Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 17):
That was my thinking too - the mountains in Hong Kong are far greener than that.

Both those photos were probably taken in the dry season, winter. Hong Kong get less than 5cm rain per month in the winter. Amazing since they get 2.5m of rain for the year.
My guess is that there had been significant deforestation in the hills up to that time. What hills you can see now, not covered in urban devlopment, have revegetated, some. But look at many of the more modern pictures that clearly show the mountains, still a lot of bare areas.

Yes, I was going to guess something in southern or central Asia as well.

Quoting rb211-524h (Reply 7):

I recognized the topography because my grandfather lives in a public housing estate on the hill at the foot of the mountains, an area known as 'choi hung'

rb211, you probably have a career with Geospatial Intelligence if you want one. That's fantastic terrain sleuthing!

-Rampart
 
sankaps
Posts: 1692
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:51 am

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:34 am

Amazing! Does anyone have a similiar angle photo of Kai Tak in the 1990s, before it shut-down? Would make for an amazing side-by-side contrast!
 
rb211-524h
Posts: 48
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 1999 8:16 pm

RE: Can Anyone Identify The Airport In This Photo?

Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:59 am

Best I could find for 90s pics (40 years on from original but still almost 20 years old) just before Kai Tak closed. These would give a side-by-side comparison with the OPs post with the Pan Am.

I don't think anybody could get the same perspective again for the Thai DC4 pic with Lion Rock in the background because spotters wouldn't be allowed on the tarmac in modern times looking N/NE.

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?id=0702532
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?id=0399853
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?id=0808243