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Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:26 pm

Copa seems to have updated their logo ( http://www.copaair.com ) in order to keep their identity similar to the new United

 
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:38 am

Wasnt it always similar to CO's? Or are you referring to the font of "Copa Airlines"?
 
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:40 am

So that's what lowercase letters look like in the new UA font!
 
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:44 am

Looks better, but I don't like the lower case at all.
 
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:59 am

Copa was pretty much a subsidiary of CO pre merger, so I would be highly surprised to see them move away from COUA. I would say no surprise that they are revising their logo to be similar to the new merged airline.
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:16 am

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 4):
Copa was pretty much a subsidiary of CO pre merger, so I would be highly surprised to see them move away from COUA. I would say no surprise that they are revising their logo to be similar to the new merged airline.

well years ago CO had still a big bunch of stocks in CM... any chance to see flights to the "other" UA hubs were they still do not have flights (CM) SFO, DEN?
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:35 am

Funny, I was asking myself how the UA/CO merger would affect COPA today. I think the font looks fine, but it's not the same as the UNITED one. The new UA one is sans-seriff..
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:38 am

Quoting ghifty (Reply 6):
The new UA one is sans-seriff..

so is this
 
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:51 pm

on a related topic.... do we know COPA's official Star Alliance join date? Last I heard it was next month.....

How about Avianca?

Thx
 
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:33 pm

Can't wait to see COPA 737s at SFO! SFO-PTY?
Personally, I like this new updated font.

But, wait.....

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Copa-...d=5e443246c4a747db7ca198807c0edac7

oh hell, I just changed my mind lol
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:43 pm

Quoting nethkt (Reply 9):
Can't wait to see COPA 737s at SFO! SFO-PTY?

Not sure if they'll make it that far. More than likely would be a UA 757.
 
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:46 pm

I prefer it to the previous font, though their Star Alliance 738 could stand to benefit from some color.
 
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:21 pm

well they already have a star alliance livery 738.
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:24 pm

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 10):
Not sure if they'll make it that far. More than likely would be a UA 757.

They could with a nice stopover at GUA hehe.

We talked about the font change at the CentAm thread, but I do hope that they paint a E190 in *A colors.
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:43 pm

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 4):

Copa was pretty much a subsidiary of CO pre merger, so I would be highly surprised to see them move away from COUA. I would say no surprise that they are revising their logo to be similar to the new merged airline.

CO sold all of their stock in CM in 2008.
 
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:50 pm

Quoting ghifty (Reply 6):
The new UA one is sans-seriff..

But . . . all Helvetica-type and Gothic-type fonts are sans-serif, right?
 
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:53 pm

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 15):
But . . . all Helvetica-type and Gothic-type fonts are sans-serif, right?

There are four types of sans-serif fonts: Grotesque, Neo-Grotesque, Geometric, and Humanist. AA's Helvetica is a neo-grotesque, while DL's Whitney would probably be categorized as humanist. Not sure what category the UA font would be.
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:55 pm

Quoting SEA (Reply 14):
CO sold all of their stock in CM in 2008.

And the cash came very handy at that time. The CO-owned stock accounted for 49% of the company.
Had CO issues when CM logo changed, looked like theirs and has been kept for this long?
Does UA now has issues with the new font?
If CM wants to show they've an affinity with UA (CO then) and UA is fine with that, let it be.
Hadn't CM and CO (now UA) kept a friendly relationship until now, UA could have taken CM to court for trademark infringement long time ago.
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:10 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 17):
Hadn't CM and CO (now UA) kept a friendly relationship until now, UA could have taken CM to court for trademark infringement long time ago.

CM likely uses elements of CO (now UA's) identity with a license that permits its unrestricted use provided UA and CM retain some type of marketing relationship. The ownership interest is irrelevant at this point because it no longer exists.
 
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:52 pm

Quoting SEA (Reply 14):
Quoting connies4ever (Reply 4):

Copa was pretty much a subsidiary of CO pre merger, so I would be highly surprised to see them move away from COUA. I would say no surprise that they are revising their logo to be similar to the new merged airline.

CO sold all of their stock in CM in 2008.

I know that. But their commercial partnership/relationship was such that in the mind of the travelling public, they were joined at the hip.
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:06 pm

Quoting flyPBA (Reply 7):
so is this

It might just be me, but the letters "p" and "r" have little curvies.

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 15):
But . . . all Helvetica-type and Gothic-type fonts are sans-serif, right?

The new UA font does not look like Helvetica.. I'm thinking it's one of those slightly-modified fonts that many airlines order.
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:19 pm

CM and UA are still pretty much joined at the hip. Don't they share the same RES? I know they share the same products with exception of E+, FF program, branding.
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:25 pm

Quoting BigB (Reply 21):
I know they share the same products with exception of E+, FF program, branding.

Copa is part of Mileage Plus

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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:15 pm

I smell a lawsuit coming....   

Quoting flyPBA (Reply 7):

There's some small altercations to the lettering....anybody with Photoshop skills want to give us a side-by-side comparison?
 
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:35 pm

Quoting nethkt (Reply 9):
Can't wait to see COPA 737s at SFO! SFO-PTY?

If Copa's 737's can fly from PTY to the like of GRU, GIG, EZE, and MVD non-stop, they sure as hell would be able to do SFO non-stop, but not likely points further such as SEA/PDX.
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:18 am

Quoting LX64A332 (Reply 24):
If Copa's 737's can fly from PTY to the like of GRU, GIG, EZE, and MVD non-stop, they sure as hell would be able to do SFO non-stop, but not likely points further such as SEA/PDX or YVR.

CM B737-700 has the range to fly PTY-SFO and according to Boeing even PTY-PDX/SEA, however, since the PTY-SFO/PDX/SEA routings are entirely in the Northern Hemisphere and kind of South-east to North-west, the west-bound aircraft may find itself facing strong head-winds.
Routes between PTY and deep South America fly over the Equator and over that area the like-hood of strong head-winds is less than the farthest north or south one flies in the hemispheres.

IMHO, PTY-SFO should be a UA route - be B757 or B767 - and best if UA can match that PTY flight with lots of in-outbound Asian connections @ SFO.
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:51 am

CM refers to PTY as "The Hub of the Americas" and UA is already linking its hubs to this regional distribution center. CM already operates to IAD, linking UA customers throughout the region.
 
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:12 am

Quoting LX64A332 (Reply 24):
If Copa's 737's can fly from PTY to the like of GRU, GIG, EZE, and MVD non-stop, they sure as hell would be able to do SFO non-stop

PTY-SFO is quite similar to PTY-MVD which is the longest route operated by the Panamanian airline:

PTY-MVD: 2941 nm
PTY-SFO: 2885 nm

However, I even have my doubts about the capability of the 73G in such route.

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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:27 am

This is a "no meat, no fish" solution. The best solution should have been COPA AIRLINES in uppercase only, as full brand name. On the aircraft only COPA titels when they want to be in line with UNITED... and than in the correct font type like UNITED is operating.


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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:44 pm

Quoting PDPsol (Reply 26):
CM refers to PTY as "The Hub of the Americas" and UA is already linking its hubs to this regional distribution center. CM already operates to IAD, linking UA customers throughout the region.

CM IAD, ORD flights and one of CM 2 PTY-LAX arrivals hardly work for connections between CM and UA because CM's schedule.
CM at IAD, ORD is mostly for O/D.
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:56 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 29):
CM IAD, ORD flights and one of CM 2 PTY-LAX arrivals hardly work for connections between CM and UA because CM's schedule.
CM at IAD, ORD is mostly for O/D.

Based on current schedules. The expectation would be that UA and CM will coordinate their flights allowing connecting traffic to markets in deep South America not currently served directly by UA. These markets would include COR, SCL, MVD, BSB, CNF, etc.

UA will have two major partners in the region, CM and AV [including all its regional affiliates], and will coordinate with these partners at PTY, LIM and BOG to service important markets not currently served directly. One would expect daily service from UA hubs at IAD, EWR and IAH to these CM and AV hubs, with coordinated schedules allowing for hassle free connections throughout Colombia, Peru, Chile, Brasil, Uruguay and Argentina. These markets are growing quickly and UA understands simply serving GRU, GIG and EZE will not satisfy its clients' needs.
 
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:07 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 23):
I smell a lawsuit coming....

No chance. This is all deliberate and above-board.

It's an important relationship for both airlines. The association with CO (now UA) has given CM a great deal of legitimacy and allowed Copa to transform itself into an outstanding carrier in that region. As for CO/UA, it gives them a larger Latin American footprint, greater market access via the excellent PTY hub and permits more effective competition with AA.
 
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:35 pm

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 31):
No chance. This is all deliberate and above-board.

Totally above board and totally coordinated and planned, one would imagine! The fonts appear similar, but not completely identical, especially the lower case usage by CM.

The UA and CM commercial and operational relationship will develop further, as both carriers tie each others' schedules and coordinate flights to regional markets. A client flying IAD-COR, or EWR-MVD via PTY should not notice a difference between UA or CM, other than the obvious. Lounges, FF, common services are all shared.

One would imagine UA will develop a similar relationship with AV and its regional affiliates.

Perhaps regional regulatory authorities in Brasil, Chile, Colombia, Panama, Peru, Uruguay and even Argentina would allow UA to form commercial joint ventures with AV and CM and receive anti-trust immunization, a-la LH or NH.

CM would would most likely welcome this development.
 
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RE: Copa Has Changed Their Logo To Keep Similar To UA

Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:26 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 29):
CM IAD, ORD flights and one of CM 2 PTY-LAX arrivals hardly work for connections between CM and UA because CM's schedule.
CM at IAD, ORD is mostly for O/D.


I expect a progress of CM PTY-IAD and CM PTY-ORD, in terms of weekly frequencies later in order to match connections from UA.
CM PTY-LAX has been up-gauged to 14x weekly and connections to/from UA are now easier in Los Angeles.

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