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US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:32 am

US has loaded a few more DCA flights to schedule effective Jul 11. There is still no beyond perimeter flight added yet unfortunately. Flights added tonight are:

AGS 1xCRJ
MSP 2xE75 1xE70
VPS 1xCRJ (this makes 2x)
XNA 1xCRJ
YUL 3xCRJ


[Edited 2012-03-16 19:02:03]

[Edited 2012-03-16 19:02:33]
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:19 am

looks like these are all US Airways Express flights. Are there plans to add more mainline out of DCA?
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:23 am

Quoting boberito6589 (Thread starter):
AGS 1xCRJ

Not seeing this on the schedule, or thru flight searches. This would be huge news for the AGS community, though.
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:44 am

I see none of these on the schedule either or on the ETS page.
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:45 am

Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 2):
Not seeing this on the schedule, or thru flight searches. This would be huge news for the AGS community, though.

It should be on usairways.com sometime tonight
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Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:52 am

Wow XNA. Good for them
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Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:55 am

Oh great even better that Air Wisconsin is flying that AGS flight. Hope they (AGS) are planning for canceled and delayed flights already. PSA should be flying this, not Air Wisconsin.
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:05 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):

looks like these are all US Airways Express flights. Are there plans to add more mainline out of DCA?

The MSP x3 on Ejet is practically mainline. That is pretty big news.
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:36 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):
looks like these are all US Airways Express flights. Are there plans to add more mainline out of DCA?

Considering most of the new DCA flying is being funded by cuts at LGA - which was mainly express flying - a lot of DCA will be Express, within perimeter and especially to small markets like XNA and AGS. And as Flighty said the E170/E175 is practically a mainline plane.
I really like the MSP adds. The route needs some more competition.
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:07 am

In my OP I was trying to ask if anyone knows how many slots are still left not allocated to any flying? Or do these flights use up all the slots gained from DL?
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:44 am

Quoting boberito6589 (Thread starter):
MSP 2xE75 1xE70

Excellent. Nice to see non-stop competition now on DCA-MSP. Was hoping for mainline, but that's a great start nonetheless.
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:16 am

Hoping we'll eventually be seeing MKE-DCA with US.
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:18 am

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 8):
I really like the MSP adds. The route needs some more competition.

   Hahahahahahahaha! You really think US & DL "compete?"

Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 2):
This would be huge news for the AGS community, though.

Why? Few, if any, will be able to afford the fares.
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:27 am

Quoting ScottB (Reply 12):
Why? Few, if any, will be able to afford the fares.

Yes, but DC can afford to go to Augusta.

Quoting ScottB (Reply 12):
  Hahahahahahahaha! You really think US & DL "compete?"

Odd comment. At MSP, no. In Washington, sure. Was it a notable monopoly route, yes.
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:44 am

US is poised to make a true hub there at DCA, it will be a great connection and O/D market, they could fly just about anyplace, within perimeter, and take any flight out of perimeter they can get and make it all work, US is poised better in DCA than LGA, at least DCA is getting some exemptions to fly beyond the posted distance, while LGA is not.
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Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:57 am

Yeah i think US is in the process of a very profitable and successful hub in time. For the people that think US should have so much mainline right out of the gate remember that this is bascially a move from LGA which was mostly RJs and they want to build the market not fly a bunch of empty planes around. This is US trying to build into becoming the premier DCA hub airline. Destinations and plane types will certainly change many times over as they see how the market does. Some routes will be successes and others will fail miserably. Just like DL at LGA some flights will be total successes and others will fail miserably no ones knows yet these things take time and experimentation.
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:55 am

US must be getting another gate at MSP. That is the only way these DCA times will work. Under the current schedule ~ 30% of their flights have to use gates borrowed from other cariers and the DCA flights will only make it worse.

I welcome their expanded service however! This is route I will definitely use.
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:40 pm

I am really hoping that US opens up GRR as a station.

DCA-GRR 2x CRJ
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:18 pm

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 16):
US must be getting another gate at MSP. That is the only way these DCA times will work. Under the current schedule ~ 30% of their flights have to use gates borrowed from other cariers and the DCA flights will only make it worse.

US is growing a nice little presence at MSP. I was surprised at the number of flights out of here, on everything from E-jet on up to A321.

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 17):
I am really hoping that US opens up GRR as a station.

It would begin with a PHL flight, but I think as long as the UA codeshare is in place US will be looking in other directions.
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:40 pm

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 16):
US must be getting another gate at MSP. That is the only way these DCA times will work. Under the current schedule ~ 30% of their flights have to use gates borrowed from other cariers and the DCA flights will only make it worse.

I welcome their expanded service however! This is route I will definitely use.

May use the old DL gate; the one currently being used by ZK. Outside of them and sometimes AA, it sits unused pretty much all day.
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:53 pm

Also loaded 4x YYZDCA
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:22 pm

Quoting flyyul (Reply 20):
Also loaded 4x YYZDCA

Let me guess... RJ's?
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:31 pm

Quoting ScottB (Reply 12):
Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 2):
This would be huge news for the AGS community, though.

Why? Few, if any, will be able to afford the fares.

US is taking a page from the pre-bankruptcy AA playbook and connecting several strong military communities in secondary markets (AGS, OAJ, FAY, VPS, etc.) to DCA.
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:39 pm

Quoting AVLAirlineFreq (Reply 22):
US is taking a page from the pre-bankruptcy AA playbook and connecting several strong military communities in secondary markets (AGS, OAJ, FAY, VPS, etc.) to DCA.

      Those booking on DTS will likely take the non-stop vs a connection on the GSA even if its more expensive
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:03 pm

Quoting XFSUgimpLB41X (Reply 21):
Quoting flyyul (Reply 20):
Also loaded 4x YYZDCA

Let me guess... RJ's?

You are right, it was in my OP but also got edited out...It is DCA-YYZ 4x CRJ
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:04 pm

Any press release? Any official source whatsoever for these additions?
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:15 pm

Quoting Noise (Reply 25):
Any press release? Any official source whatsoever for these additions?

You can find these flights on usairways.com?
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:00 pm

Could the reason behind using all RJs on these new flights be in part because of gate space at DCA? For the time being, there is simply not much space for jets at the gates on Piers C and half of B. That should change some as more flying gets moved from DL to US and the gate allocation is reharmonized. I imagine a year from now, all US and UA and maybe AC flights will be on piers B and C, while all DL and AA flights are on pier A/old terminal and everyone else in the Banjo.

That would clear up some space to shift some of this flying to mainline.
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:06 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 27):
That would clear up some space to shift some of this flying to mainline.

Most of these routes don't justify mainline and US's mainline fleet is stretched pretty thin with minimal growth on the horizon. US has plenty of RJ's freed up by the shutdown of LGA hub. There was very little mainline freed up by shutting down LGA.

I can't imagine how horrific Gate 35 at DCA will be with all these new CRJ flights. I could potentially fly the DCA-PNS route a few times a year, but not sure I want to deal with the mess around the Gate 35. I've always wished US would build a small pier to the north to accomodate the RJ ops...but it will never happen.
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:50 pm

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 28):
I've always wished US would build a small pier to the north to accomodate the RJ ops...but it will never happen.

Write your congressman.

My understanding is that under federal law, DCA is only allowed to have 44 gates. Therefore, it has exactly 44. If US were allowed to build an Express building at DCA, I'm sure they would in a heartbeat.
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:57 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 29):
Write your congressman.

My understanding is that under federal law, DCA is only allowed to have 44 gates. Therefore, it has exactly 44. If US were allowed to build an Express building at DCA, I'm sure they would in a heartbeat

I'm confused. Are there more slots available for more flights that could use additional gates? I didn't think so. I thought the airport was pretty much maxed out now.

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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:21 am

Quoting SANFan (Reply 30):
I'm confused. Are there more slots available for more flights that could use additional gates? I didn't think so. I thought the airport was pretty much maxed out now.

The new slots must be shoehorned into the existing gates.

THat's not much of a problem for every airline except US, which has clearly exceeded the maximum gate utilization, hence placing the RJs and props on the tarmac and bussing passengers to them. They don't do that with mainline flights though.
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:23 am

Quoting flyyul (Reply 20):
Also loaded 4x YYZDCA

This is long overdue! Looking forward to flying this frequently!
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:28 am

Wow, didn't see XNA coming. Thought PHX or PHL would have come long before DCA.

Would love to see PHX come online since geographically logical West Coast connections are limited to pretty much DFW/IAH/DEN. Probably too much to ask though, given the service already existing vs. the population base.
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:28 am

Only slightly off topic, but PHL-SLC has been axed...grrr....
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:53 am

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 34):
Only slightly off topic, but PHL-SLC has been axed...grrr....

A casualty of increased fuel prices
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:32 am

Quoting PA727 (Reply 33):
Wow, didn't see XNA coming. Thought PHX or PHL would have come long before DCA.


I'm happy to see DCA-XNA from a convenience standpoint (I wasn't flying the route when AA covered it for a bit) but hate the idea of 2+ hours on a CRJ. An ERJ would be slightly better.
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:08 am

Quoting PA727 (Reply 33):
Thought PHX or PHL would have come long before DCA.

Would love to see PHX come online since geographically logical West Coast connections are limited to pretty much DFW/IAH/DEN.

Wouldn't they have to get FAA permission to fly to PHX since it (I believe) is out of the radius? Or have they already gotten that slot already, and have yet to assign it?

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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:12 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 37):
Wouldn't they have to get FAA permission to fly to PHX since it (I believe) is out of the radius? Or have they already gotten that slot already, and have yet to assign it?

He is talking about XNA-PHX not DCA - PHX (which US already flies 3x daily)
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:14 am

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 38):
He is talking about XNA-PHX not DCA - PHX (which US already flies 3x daily)

Oh my mistake, sorry. Yeah XNA-PHX might be iffy. How's the traffic out of Fayetteville?
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:43 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 29):
My understanding is that under federal law, DCA is only allowed to have 44 gates. Therefore, it has exactly 44. If US were allowed to build an Express building at DCA, I'm sure they would in a heartbeat.

Such a building could easily have 1 gate number, as many express ops around the country do.

But I'm uncertain where to put it.

I'm also uncertain why Terminal A still exists rather than building another pier.

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Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:48 am

Quoting gigneil (Reply 40):
I'm also uncertain why Terminal A still exists rather than building another pier.

Terminal A is a historic landmark and as such is difficult to alter in any significant way.
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:51 am

Quoting XFSUgimpLB41X (Reply 21):
Quoting flyyul (Reply 20):Also loaded 4x YYZDCA
Let me guess... RJ's?

Even AC flies E75s on the route.

So no problem.
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:51 am

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 41):
Terminal A is a historic landmark and as such is difficult to alter in any significant way

He means the 'A' terminal banjo rather than the historic, old terminal building which houses a museum.

Myself -- I've been boarding planes in the banjo since 1971 when NWA and TWA were there.

Trust me -- there's nothing historic about it.
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:16 am

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 43):
Myself -- I've been boarding planes in the banjo since 1971 when NWA and TWA were there.

Trust me -- there's nothing historic about it.

Flew out of there two weeks ago with AC to YUL. You're totally right, the Banjo is noting to write home about at all. Why can't they renovate it to make it consistent with the rest of the airport which IMO is one of the most beautiful in the country?
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:11 pm

Here are the 30 businest local city pairs from DCA in Q3 of 2011, including if US/US Express serves them. The markets noted as USUA are served by FF partner United. The number at left is local passengers per day (total to+from).

2871 …… BOS …… US
2103 …… ORD …… USUA
1731 …… ATL ……. not served
1613 …… MCO …… US
1221 …… FLL ……. US
1175 …… LGA …… US
1140 …… DFW …… US
1115 …… MIA ……. not served
0903 …… MSP …… US
0856 …… DEN …… USUA
0823 …… MKE …… not served
0656 …… IAH ……. USUA
0628 …… SEA …… too long
0600 …… MCI …… US
0598 …… TPA …… US
0554 …… LAX …… too long
0522 …… MSY …… US
0509 …… STL …… not served
0501 …… LAS …… US
0485 …… DTW …… US
0434 …… PHX …… US
0414 …… OMA …… US
0392 …… SFO …… USUA
0377 …… IND ……. US
0372 …… JAX …… US
0345 …… SAN …… too long
0332 …… RDU …… US
0317 …… PVD …… US
0315 …… CLT ……. US
0306 …… PBI ……. US

It's not a simple slam-dunk that US should grab each of these markets, of course. But it's somewhat interesting to see what is and is not served nonstop nevertheless.
 
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RE: US Loads More DCA Flights Starting July 11th

Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:32 pm

Quoting gigneil (Reply 40):
Such a building could easily have 1 gate number, as many express ops around the country do.

Don't you think calling it all the same gate, while still actually having a whole lot of gates, would violate the law that says you can only have 44 gates?
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:50 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 39):

I fly to XNA every 4-6 weeks out of CLT. the flight usually packs from 43-50 passengers. I would imagine they could support a flight. But the flight will rely on connecting pax
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Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:51 pm

Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 17):


I'm hoping for

2x CLT-TUL CRJ
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Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:54 pm

Quoting SouthernDC9 (Reply 36):

It's not as bad as you think.
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