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Why Don't All Airlines Name Their A/C?

Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:27 am

Why are some airlines naming all they aircraft while other don't? Is that a tradition or is there something else? Some companies only give a name to few aircraft while others name every single plane (sometimes each family of aircraft has names which are related between them). Also some of the names given are really boring while some companies are pretty original.
 
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Why Don't All Airlines Name Their A/C?

Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:26 am

Its a company policy to name aircraft.
Personally I find it fantastic especially if its named on someone who contributed to that airline & aviation field in particular.
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Why Don't All Airlines Name Their A/C?

Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:28 am

Quoting EY460 (Thread starter):

Why are some airlines naming all they aircraft while other don't? Is that a tradition or is there something else?

Mainly tradition I would say. There are very few airlines which appeared after lets say 1980 which are naming their aircraft, Virgin Atlantic with their truly original names being the only exception which comes to my mind.
Shame about it, I like naming aircraft.
 
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Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:22 am

Quoting na (Reply 2):
here are very few airlines which appeared after lets say 1980 which are naming their aircraft, Virgin Atlantic with their truly original names being the only exception which comes to my mind.

SG (SpiceJet) names each aircraft after a spice...
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Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:34 am

Is it a more, or less common thing today, than it was say 10-20 years ago? IIRC I have flown many aircraft with names attatched, VS-Maiden Japan, Martinair-Koningen Beatrix to name a few off the top of my head, QX used to name their planes after the cities they flew to. Do you guys think it's more prevalent in the US or other countries airlines that do this?
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Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:21 pm

The only airlines in the US that I recall are UA, AA, NA, PA, PI
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Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:45 pm

Quoting na (Reply 2):
There are very few airlines which appeared after lets say 1980 which are naming their aircraft, Virgin Atlantic with their truly original names being the only exception which comes to my mind.


JetBlue and Virgin Australia are two more. Both often use the word "blue" in the name (don't forget VA used to be Virgin Blue). Indeed DJ have such wonderful names as Deja Blue and Kanga Blue!



Qantas names every aircraft in its fleet AFAIK. Normally they go along a similar pattern per aircraft type (eg: 734 = birds, A380 = famous Australian aviators). In fact (and with the greatest possible respects to the real person) I'm pretty sure as that Nancy-Bird is better known as the A380 that went fire-crackers in SIN than as the first Australian women to fly!
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Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:50 pm

WN used to have some named aircraft. I remember many, many OKC-MCI-OKC flights on N67SW, a 732 named the Rollin King. In the "party seats" as an UM.
 
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Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:04 pm

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Why Don't All Airlines Name Their A/C?

Because they don't have to.  
 
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Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:14 pm

Aeroflot names all their aircraft after different Russian figures. Some are those who have contributed to aviation, others, I believe, are just composers, etc.

I have also heard that N901AW's informal name is Christine the Hangar Queen...apparently she goes tech all the time. So I've heard.
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Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:18 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 5):
The only airlines in the US that I recall are UA, AA, NA, PA, PI

You can add F9 to that list, as well  
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Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:24 pm

Quoting NZblue (Reply 10):
Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 5):
The only airlines in the US that I recall are UA, AA, NA, PA, PI

You can add F9 to that list, as well

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Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:31 pm

Quoting Sevensixtyseven (Reply 9):
I have also heard that N901AW's informal name is Christine the Hangar Queen...apparently she goes tech all the time. So I've heard.

I suspect all airlines have a plane or two with a similar nickname for a similar reason.  
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Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:38 pm

Some of the Virgin America names are really great. Among my favourite:
- Contents May Be Under Pressure,
- Virgin & Tonic,
- Fog Cutter,
- Unicorn Chaser,
- My other ride's a spaceship,
- An Airplane Named Desire,
- real steel.
Jetblue names are cool too.
 
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Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:58 pm

HA names their aircraft:

717s are named for Native Hawaiian Birds that stay on the islands (I'iwi, 'Elepaio, 'Apapane, etc)
767s are named for Native Hawaiian Birds that cross the ocean (Koa'e Kea, Kolea, etc)
A330s are named for Constellations/Stars (Hokulea, Makali'i, Namahoe)

AQ also named their aircraft:
732s were named Hawaiian Ali'i (royalty)...(Kekaulike, Liholiho, etc)
73Gs were named for Polynesian Navigators (Mo'ikeha, Hawai'i Loa, etc)

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Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:03 pm

Funny. I read a column on just this subject the other day. It mentioned that Virgin America lets you name an aircraft for $60k, which includes a one way charter flight with the airplane.
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Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:06 pm

Quoting afterburner (Reply 8):
Because they don't have to.
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 1):
Its a company policy to name aircraft.

To stick to the question, here you are, pretty good answers.
Names are not necessary since ac have reg numbers, fleet numbers, callsigns.
Some planes are named by tradition (KLM), as PR stunt (Virgin America), as internal reward (DHL), by crew affection (USA3000) or commercial PR (Vueling).
But how many passengers read/know the name of the plane they are flying in?
 
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Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:15 pm

Quoting breiz (Reply 16):
But how many passengers read/know the name of the plane they are flying in?

I think most people will have a look at their aircraft from the gate area. As far as KL goes, the plane's name is painted on the nose, readable from the terminal. Text grabs attention (at least, it grabs mine), so many people will read the name, but few will remember them and write a trip report  .
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Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:48 pm

Don't forget FX names their planes as well!
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:56 am

BW names them for the cities / islands they serve, and registers them with the airport code of the city as well.
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Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:09 am

One of our newest A320s (B6) is named "Pretty Fly for a Blue Guy." Probably my favorite one!
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:20 am

Quoting NZblue (Reply 10):
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 11):

Well, I was referring to the past. Are F9 names visible or is that internal?
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Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:41 am

Spirit used to name their aircraft after domestic cities and international countries or regions (such as Spirit of Fort Lauderdale, Spirit of the Bahamas, or Spirit of the Americas) but did away with the practice after transitioning to the ULCC business model. Aircraft are losing their names are they are repainted into the new color scheme.


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I guess the names could be a source of embarrassment considering that NK has aircraft named after destinations which are no longer served, such as the Turks and Caicos Islands (N512NK) and the Cayman Islands (N514NK).

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 21):
Well, I was referring to the past. Are F9 names visible or is that internal?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't F9 "name" their aircraft after the animal featured on its tail?


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Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:58 am

SA used to name its aircraft -- however with all the changes in South Africa, it no longer does, with the exception of the GORGEOUS Ndizani.

I remember when we were flying to the US in 1983 my mom was making tapes of our trip to send back to my grandmother. We were at JNB and waiting to board the aircraft. My mom had absolutely no idea what aircraft type we were flying on (admittedly, at the age of 11, neither did I) -- but she looked out the window and painted on the nose of the aircraft was "....berg" and she narrated onto the tape that we were about to board "...berg" for our flight to New York.

I have been bugging my mom to find the tapes, although I think they may have got lost in the many moves they've been subjected to since that trip, and for the life of me, I can't remember which "berg" we flew on.

I wish more airlines would name aircraft...

Which Asian carriers name aircraft?

I recall MH does and TG does. Other than that, I don't know any. And, of course, QF.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:05 am

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 22):
I guess the names could be a source of embarrassment considering that NK has aircraft named after destinations which are no longer served, such as the Turks and Caicos Islands (N512NK) and the Cayman Islands (N514NK).

Several KLM 747-400s are named for cities KLM hasn't served for years, including Melbourne, Freetown, Karachi, Orlando and Rio de Janeiro.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:13 am

Quoting NZblue (Reply 10):
You can add F9 to that list, as well

Yes and no. The name is whatever is on the tail itself, not the aircraft itself. Aircraft 204, 209 is a great example of this. 204 has Freedom the Bald Eagle but it is named after Sean Menke and his wife. Aircraft 209 has Andre the Pronghorn Antelope and has the titles of Andre Price under the cockpit windows. He was the son of F9 Employee Sue Price. The rest of the airplanes (Except 202, Colorado the Ram) don't have their names under the cockpit windows.

I think 901FR had Sam Addoms name under the cockpit windows.

Most of the E190's that are painted in F9 colors do not have names at all for those tails. (And no, that is not Perry.)

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 22):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't F9 "name" their aircraft after the animal featured on its tail?

The tails are named, but the planes are not, as I described above.
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Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:15 am

SQ used to name their ac. Big Top, Mega Top and Leadership come to mind. Don't know why they did away with that, I thought it was pretty catchy


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Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:02 am

It's a nice tradition, but I'm sure it's quite expensive. I know United has some aircraft named after their best customers; I'd like that! It's a nice gesture...
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Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:40 am

I like the idea of naming aircraft, the question is how to do it in an original way. I really love the VS and B6 naming system. I assume VA are quite similar. Lufthansa use the unsexy but very organised system of naming aircraft after German (and international) cities. I do like the idea mentioned above of UA 'awarding' their most frequent fliers, wonder how many points you have to redeem!!!!

I think it is a more manageable thing to do when you have a smaller fleet that some of the mega-carriers out there. The LH makes more sense for their larger fleet than the VS/B6 system.

Quoting breiz (Reply 16):
But how many passengers read/know the name of the plane they are flying in?
Quoting RWA380 (Reply 4):
Is it a more, or less common thing today, than it was say 10-20 years ago?
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Traditionally St.Patrick is seen as the flagship and in the last few decades the most prestigious aircraft type in the fleet gets to have this name. On Feb 17th just past the St.Patrick operated EI's 'flagship' route, the early departure DUB-JFK.
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On a similar note EI registered their original A330 with the IATA codes of their long haul destinations (EI-DUB, EI-JFK, EI-ORD, EI-LAX, EI-EWR, and the slightly altered regs of EI-CRK and EI-SHN)

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Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:51 am

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 27):
I know United has some aircraft named after their best customers; I'd like that! It's a nice gesture...

Does UA still do this? IIRC they had a program in the 90s where you could have an aircraft named after you in exchange for some FF miles.
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Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:35 pm

I like the idea of naming planes, and think it's a good one. Of course PA named their 747's. I remember working at the old DEN Stapleton and would see CO's "Robert F. Six" DC10. Those were the days. Bring some nostalgia into the business.
 
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Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:07 pm

Quoting infinit (Reply 26):
SQ used to name their ac. Big Top, Mega Top and Leadership come to mind. Don't know why they did away with that, I thought it was pretty catchy

I am no insider, but my guess would be it might have been because those labels, which pertained to 747s, became less relevant when the A380 was on its way.

Also, were the "Mega Top" labels the same on all 744s, or was it actually a named aircraft?
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Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:17 pm

Quoting bhmdiversion (Reply 18):

Fedex names their planes through a drawing where employees put in their new baby's names. I think that is cool and nice.  
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Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:25 pm

I am a fan of airlines naming their jets.
Vueling has some funky names such as "Vueling Me Softly", "Vita e Vueling".
KLM names them according to the aircraft type:
B744s : Cities they serve(d) and the naming depends on the aircraft reg number: ie PH-BFK is "City of Karachi", PH-BFD is "City of Dubai", PH-BFP is "City of Paramaribo" etc... Funnily enough: PH-BFA, the airline's first B744 is not "City of Amsterdam" but rather "City of Atlanta"!
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Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:18 pm

Quoting klwright69 (Reply 30):
Of course PA named their 747's

Pan Am named all their aircraft, at least all the jets and 4-engine propeller types. I don't think they named the smaller twin-engine propeller types such as the DC-3, C-46 and Convair 240/340.
 
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Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:00 am

Quoting BreninTW (Reply 23):
I recall MH does and TG does.

Yes indeed TG did or does, when I flew them SEA-YYZ-SEA, the M11's we flew in did have names, but were in Thai, so can't even come close to telling you what the names were.
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Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:10 am

How about LARGE pictures, I believe Western Pacific used to have large Adverts on there planes. They always looked good and you can make money doing it.
 
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Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:19 am

Quoting Alnicocunife (Reply 36):
How about LARGE pictures, I believe Western Pacific used to have large Adverts on there planes. They always looked good and you can make money doing it.

Didn't work out for Western Pacific though. I do agree the Stardust was cool, but the Simpsons plane was the most popular, funny as I'm seeing Yeardley Smith on TV as I write this.
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Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:39 am

BA was another, but the names were dropped with the world tails - which was a shame.

737 - British rivers & some Shakspeare characters IIRC
747-100 - British reservoirs
747 200/400 - British cities
757 - British castles
767 - European cities
777-200A - aviation pioneers
Original BCal A320 - British islands
Tristars - British bays
ATP - Scottish Straths
The HS7's & 111's had names too

Funnily enough the Concorde was never named

AF names a few 320's after European cities

Some others not mentioned yet are LG, CV, IB, TP, Portugalia & OS name their fleet

Its a neat idea, it gives a personal touch to an aircraft for joe average who wouldnt think about the reg. I remember when BA named a 744 City of St Albans (CIVF IIRC) it was made a big deal of in their local paper that their little city would be carried across the globe.
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