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Air Transat Unveils New Cabins And New Club Class

Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:26 pm

Well, looks like TS will be updating its 330s and certain 310s (?) with a new cabin, including PTVs in both classes and some really classy touches on bathroom doors and bulkheads. Interestingly so, the "Club" class cabin is starting to look more and more like a real J-class product rather than an economy plus cabin with a J-style catering. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems the config in J is going from 2-3-2 to 2-2-2 with much greater pitch, although you won't find much in terms of details on TS's website, apart from this YouTube link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBse6WOCd70
 
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:37 pm

I'm impressed. Their on-board product has never been a significant part of their brand since their focus is as a leisure destination carrier. It's good to see them making this push. A few things I noticed from the video and their Facebook page:

- Simple, modernistic look and feel is refreshing compared to many who go for a more luxurious experience

- The new bathrooms look great!

- PTVs are all good and well, but it's difficult to pass judgement until we know what system they will be operating - will they have a selection of on-demand movies and shows? Or just a 9 channel satellite TV offering? Maybe something in between?

- They are getting on that mood lighting bandwagon. I haven't experienced mood lighting as of yet but I look forward to seeing if it's as great as some say

Quoting SafeFlyer (Thread starter):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems the config in J is going from 2-3-2 to 2-2-2 with much greater pitch

It certainly looks like they're going from 2-3-2 to 2-2-2. As for the pitch, it's pretty difficult to tell from that video. Current pitch on the 330s is 34" in Club and 31" in Y. If in fact there is a change in the pitch, I wonder how that affects overall capacity on the planes since TS operates their 332s and 333s with 342 seats for easy dispatching purposes.
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:45 pm

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 1):
It certainly looks like they're going from 2-3-2 to 2-2-2. As for the pitch, it's pretty difficult to tell from that video. Current pitch on the 330s is 34" in Club and 31" in Y. If in fact there is a change in the pitch, I wonder how that affects overall capacity on the planes since TS operates their 332s and 333s with 342 seats for easy dispatching purposes.

Going to 2x2x2 from 2x3x2 in J class is good but remaining at 3x3x3 in Y is not. That is tight especially on an A330.
 
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:50 pm

Very nice looks very classy . Their Club enhancements look very promising indeed.
 
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:59 pm

This looks great! I love the colour choices used in the Club Class.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:07 am

J - or what they call Club is going down from 21 seats to just 12 seats as it seems (you can count this in the youtube video). These changes are apparently only going into the 330s as they will be the remaining aircraft once the 310s exit the fleet.

In IFExpress (http://airfax.com/blog/index.php/tag/air-transat-in-flight-service/) it has been stated that Air Transat had selected the RAVE IFE system, which apparently are similar to those being used by SN, LH, AB and UL.

A lot of changes to celebrate 25 years in the Canadian skies!
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:47 am

Quoting SafeFlyer (Thread starter):

Well, looks like TS will be updating its 330s and certain 310s (?) with a new cabin, including PTVs in both classes and some really classy touches on bathroom doors and bulkheads. Interestingly so, the "Club" class cabin is starting to look more and more like a real J-class product rather than an economy plus cabin with a J-style catering.

Somebody smells blood in the water.

That business class cabin doesn't look half bad. Certainly not on par with most legacies, but then the price probably won't be either and Air Transat tends to be far more leisure focused anyway.

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 1):
- Simple, modernistic look and feel is refreshing compared to many who go for a more luxurious experience

It is rather simple in appearance, with the Club Class seeming spacious and comfortable, but lacking in luxurious materials.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:45 am

First flight with the new cabin should be sometime in mid-April (exact date not known yet) on aircraft C-GTSI - acquired from Thomas Cook, hasn't flown a revenue flight for Transat yet.

Next aircraft to be re-fitted will be sistership C-GTSJ - (affectionately known as the bastard child of the fleet because it doesn't have a proper Club Class - it's all Y seating), and possibly 2 more A330's before the year is out (not sure which, but possibly 300's)

The A310's won't get the full cabin re-fitting because they are not scheduled to be in the fleet much longer (actual time frame is unknown ~ 5yrs maybe??), but they will get some minor modifications to make them resemble the 330's - they will not get PTV's.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:04 am

Quoting tribird1011 (Reply 7):
Next aircraft to be re-fitted will be sistership C-GTSJ - (affectionately known as the bastard child of the fleet because it doesn't have a proper Club Class - it's all Y seating)

Due to its "bastard child" status, is it used on specific low-yield routes? Or is it just a "luck of the draw" thing for Club class paying pax?

Quoting tribird1011 (Reply 7):
The A310's won't get the full cabin re-fitting because they are not scheduled to be in the fleet much longer (actual time frame is unknown ~ 5yrs maybe??)

I heard they first couple will go much sooner than that, as soon as mid-2013. A rumour of course, I don't have a source.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 6):
but lacking in luxurious materials.

For the price paid, this wouldn't bother me in the slightest. After a week's vacation I'd be passed out the whole way back anyway.   
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:26 am

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 1):
It certainly looks like they're going from 2-3-2 to 2-2-2. As for the pitch, it's pretty difficult to tell from that video. Current pitch on the 330s is 34" in Club and 31" in Y. If in fact there is a change in the pitch, I wonder how that affects overall capacity on the planes since TS operates their 332s and 333s with 342 seats for easy dispatching purposes.

It looks quite fresh, and for longer flights (esp with jids) the IFE is a must. But the deciding factor for me will be whether there is an increase in seat pitch as long flights can be difficult for me with my knees jammed into the seat back in front. Any info on that front would be appreciated.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:44 am

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 8):
Due to its "bastard child" status, is it used on specific low-yield routes? Or is it just a "luck of the draw" thing for Club class paying pax?

They've tried to keep it to down south destinations, but it has managed to cross the pond a few times as well.

As for the 310's, that 5 yr guesstimate is my own for all 310's to leave the fleet. Naturally I don't expect them to leave all at once, so I would expect some to leave sooner and some later   - but like I said, I don't have an actual timeline!!
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:38 am

It looks really nice however I wouldn't ever want to fly in Y, such narrow seats and virtually zero legroom, wow, that has to be a horrible experience flying for even more then one hour in that configuration...

However, I do like the colors and I've to admit, "club" doesn't seem to bad (actually It does seem quite nice)... But "economy" (excuse me I ment "Cattle") seems very terrible to fly with...
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:58 am

What is going on with that row immediately adjacent to the loos in economy???? It seems to onstruct the aisle and litereally have a full view of a vacant lav! Eewwwww!
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:46 am

Looks like a great cabin design. Certainly fresh and a great image to bring in.

Does anyone think that they will look to Asian routes at some point? There might be some options for them at a point in the future to explore.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:11 am

Quoting Bralo20 (Reply 11):
It looks really nice however I wouldn't ever want to fly in Y, such narrow seats and virtually zero legroom, wow, that has to be a horrible experience flying for even more then one hour in that configuration...

I flew YUL to CDG in September in Y, and I found the experiece superb (flew AF in Y previous). Although I am a little shorter yet a little wider (like an A310) at 5"8", 190lbs. Yes, I had a window seat but was very comfortable. Strongly suggest taking the "Options Plus" package with AT as it offers the little extras that I enjoy without the larger price tag.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:28 am

Simple yet very elegant, I like it! It does appear (from 1:20 in the video) that there are both 2 and 3 seat rows in near the window? How does that work?

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Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:49 am

I think it looks great. Well done and she be a welcome addition to passengers.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:51 am

I flew with Transat numerous years ago and it wasn't the greatest travel experience, but this year I flew with them again going to Cancun and I have to say I was really impressed with some the changes they were making.

Now granted it wasn't anything like I saw in the video (which I must say are absolutely amazing, especially the improvements to club class), but it was a much better travel experience thats for sure. Comfy seats and even having PTV's made the journey a lot smoother.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:18 pm

Room for legs in economy looks amazingly small..I can't imagine 8 hours sitting on that seat!   
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:28 pm

Quoting Carls (Reply 18):
Room for legs in economy looks amazingly small..I can't imagine 8 hours sitting on that seat!

I was thinking the same. 9 abreast and no legroom = No repeat business.

Looks like people will have to wedge themselves past the row of seats to get to the window.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:06 pm

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 13):
Does anyone think that they will look to Asian routes at some point? There might be some options for them at a point in the future to explore.

I highly doubt it. I don't think there is a strong enough leisure market. BUT, if AC goes belly-up, watch Transat eat up that business within days. WS doesn't have the metal to do it so I can guarantee TS would take a 330 or two and send them westward and reap the benefits.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 15):
It does appear (from 1:20 in the video) that there are both 2 and 3 seat rows in near the window? How does that work?

It doesn't. Seems like another one of those infamous oversights where the person doing the mock-up has no idea what they're doing. It appears they mixed the 332 (3-3-3) and 333 (2-4-2) cabin. Rookie marketing mistake there.

Quoting cipango (Reply 19):
I was thinking the same. 9 abreast and no legroom = No repeat business.

Club class is actually surprisingly cheap (relatively speaking) so I'm sure you'd have no complaints up there.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:30 pm

Well I look forward to seeing if I will experience the new cabin when I fly with them from MAN to YVR in May. Can't say I was expecting too much from them, considering the flights to Vancouver cost less than what I paid to fly with Easyjet to Egypt!
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:40 pm

4 years ago, I flew YVR-CDG aboard Air Transat on a an A332, I had a windows seat and the flight lasted 9 hours 15 minutes. I am 6 feet 1 and 220 pounds. The flight was very comfortable and I didn't even get up once from my seat. So by all means comfort is subjective and depends on everyone's expectations, but I don't find that 9 abreast on a 330 is any less comfortable than 10 abreast on a 777 which seems to be the trend on most airlines operating the type.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:05 pm

I shared a window & aisle seat with a friend between Glasgow & Toronto a few years back and I wouldn't consider it again. We sat near the back where there are two seats on the outside rather than the three because we thought it would be better and we were wrong. We're both pretty tall guys at 6' 2"-ish each and my friend is quite well built. It was a miserable time for us and we both agreed we'd rather than pay the small amount extra to fly someone else next time. Maybe I'd be tempted to give them a try with this new cabin layout but I think I'd still think twice before it and there would be have to be enough of a price difference or much better departure time to help push me into it.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:20 pm

When will we see the new product coming on line

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 6):
That business class cabin doesn't look half bad. Certainly not on par with most legacies, but then the price probably won't be either and Air Transat tends to be far more leisure focused anyway.

They are focused on the leisure market as that is their core business and they get the majority of their income from that market. The leisure market is who they cater to with their Air Transat Holidays division. They don't fly to any particular business destinations.

On a related note, Do they still fly to LHR or have they gotten out of that Zoo?
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:27 pm

Quoting brilondon (Reply 24):
The leisure market is who they cater to with their Air Transat Holidays division

Nolitours basically sustains their business. They really set the benchmark for other airlines realizing the value of having a Vacations arm. It's become very lucrative for WS, and PD will be launching one in the coming months.

Quoting brilondon (Reply 24):
On a related note, Do they still fly to LHR or have they gotten out of that Zoo?

They're flying into LGW these days.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:12 pm

Quoting Bralo20 (Reply 11):
It looks really nice however I wouldn't ever want to fly in Y, such narrow seats and virtually zero legroom, wow, that has to be a horrible experience flying for even more then one hour in that configuration...

I admit I thought the same thing too but it is very subjective. The seat width might be a little tigther but unless you are significantly "wider", I see no issues.

They increased their pitch 4-5 years ago to a standard 32' which is better than many LCC and other charters around. WG for instance has 29-30' I'm pretty sure, give they cram 189 passengers in a 738. The 763s they leased last summer had a 2x4x2 configuration and now, THAT's tight on a '67. Not to mention I believe their pitch was around 29-30' on those leased birds. That's a painful way to get to FCO or BCN. Not to mention no PTVs and no real "Club class", TS seems to be the winner on leisure routes here. Definately the better product. Do they still offer three choices of entrées on translantic in economy? I remember they had announced they were improving their meal service with that.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:38 pm

Quoting tonystan (Reply 12):
What is going on with that row immediately adjacent to the loos in economy???? It seems to onstruct the aisle and litereally have a full view of a vacant lav! Eewwwww!

I noticed that, too. At least if you have to go, you don't have to run far.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:41 pm

Quoting SafeFlyer (Reply 26):
They increased their pitch 4-5 years ago to a standard 32'

Oh so they are having to keep 3x3x3 as they have lost seats (forward/back) by increasing to 32" but by keeping 3x3x3 they have gain seats (left/right) - so more pax, more money(ish)...

I must admit I would prefer legroom then elbow room HOWEVER I am lucky enough to be 5ft9 and thin so that is more than likely why – plus being a female my shape seems to mean that I take up less elbow room.


I normally travel (when flying as a passenger) in First or Business if the former is not available and I would be more than happy to fly (during the day) in their new J class - hell if the seats go back far enough I may risk a night flight (I don’t normally sleep anyway).

Good update TS!
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:55 pm

Quoting FriendlySkiesUK (Reply 28):
Oh so they are having to keep 3x3x3 as they have lost seats (forward/back) by increasing to 32" but by keeping 3x3x3 they have gain seats (left/right) - so more pax, more money(ish)...

Sorry, but your logic here is lost on me   Can you elaborate?
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:19 pm

Quoting brilondon (Reply 24):
When will we see the new product coming on line

Starting this April and it will take two years to roll out the new cabin to the entire fleet. According to the information in the video description.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:29 pm

Oj jeez, those cheap graphics on the cabin walls/dividers will look very dated quickly, like a throw back to the late 70's
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:02 pm

Quoting canadiantree (Reply 22):
but I don't find that 9 abreast on a 330 is any less comfortable than 10 abreast on a 777 which seems to be the trend on most airlines operating the type.

Carriers with 10-abreast on 777s is (fortunately) still by far the minority of all 777 operators.
 
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Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:00 am

Looks pretty good! Although the pitch in Y seems, well the same as it is now, very tight.

I've had mixed experiences on TS. Flew YYZ-CCC-YYZ on a A332 (old config, fabric seats) and found the ride and service to be very good. A few years later I flew YYZ-AMS-YYZ on a A313, both legs were pretty bad but the return trip to YYZ was the most uncomfortable flight of my life. The plane was full, the catering was disgusting and for some reason the plane was extremely warm the entire flight. People were getting sick from the heat.

I believe TS leases all of their aircraft, so how does the reconfiguration work. Would they have to remove the current and new configuration if they have to return the aircraft? Have they changed the configuration of the recently leased A330s? How long are the leasing agreements for TS's Airbus fleet?

There was also talk about TS looking at the B787 and A350, but I think they opted to but those plans on the backburner and lease more A330s instead. Any word if TS will look and buying brand new planes in the future?

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Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:11 am

How is the catering on TS?

I've never flown them, but with AC frequently hitting ~$1400-$1500 (peak) to LHR from YOW/YUL, I might as well give them a shot. On the flip side, no *G privileges (really just amounts to lounge access, since I travel with carry-on), but between a direct flight on TS and a connecter on US or CO, TS will win, especially if I've hit my mileage requirements for the year (ie - October onwards). In fact, for $1400, I might even be able to score a Club class seat. With BA going at around the $2k mark for Y+, I doubt it will be substantially more expensive than $1400.

The 3-3-3 isn't appealing, but if they have AVOD, it might be worthwhile.
 
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Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:09 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 6):
Somebody smells blood in the water.

Hmm, I wonder if we will ever see Jazz providing TS with regional feed?   

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 25):
Nolitours basically sustains their business. They really set the benchmark for other airlines realizing the value of having a Vacations arm. It's become very lucrative for WS, and PD will be launching one in the coming months.

Huh? CP once òperated the largest package tour arm in the business, so TS didn't break any new ground there.
 
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Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:25 am

Quoting krisyyz (Reply 33):
I believe TS leases all of their aircraft, so how does the reconfiguration work. Would they have to remove the current and new configuration if they have to return the aircraft?

I don't have the exact numbers, but they do own a handful of their own a/c. I have no idea what the answer to your configuration question is. I never thought of that. Hopefully someone knows the answer.

Quoting multimark (Reply 35):
Huh? CP once òperated the largest package tour arm in the business, so TS didn't break any new ground there.

That's true, but where is Canadian Holidays today? Transat didn't do anything revolutionary but they were an early mover who did it right early. We didn't see other Canadian airline vacation arms like WestJet Vacations, Sunwing Vacations, Sunquest Vacations (Thomas Cook), and Porter seriously move into this territory until TS started seeing great success. WestJet Vacations was actually formed from a WS/TS partnership which ended a few years ago.
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Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:10 am

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 36):
I don't have the exact numbers, but they do own a handful of their own a/c. I have no idea what the answer to your configuration question is. I never thought of that. Hopefully someone knows the answer.

To the best of my knowledge, all of TS's 330s are on long-term leases (talking 10, 15 year leases here), none are owned.
 
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Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:16 am

Quoting SafeFlyer (Reply 37):
To the best of my knowledge, all of TS's 330s are on long-term leases (talking 10, 15 year leases here), none are owned.

The only thing that sets them apart is that the initial 3 -200's (GGTS, GITS, GPTS) were acquired new directly from Airbus, while all the rest were acquired 2nd hand from various airlines (Dragonair, Turkish, Edelweiss and Mexicana), although I can't say for sure which were bought (if any) or leased.
 
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Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:26 am

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 36):
Quoting multimark (Reply 35):
Huh? CP once òperated the largest package tour arm in the business, so TS didn't break any new ground there.

That's true, but where is Canadian Holidays today? Transat didn't do anything revolutionary but they were an early mover who did it right early. We didn't see other Canadian airline vacation arms like WestJet Vacations, Sunwing Vacations, Sunquest Vacations (Thomas Cook), and Porter seriously move into this territory until TS started seeing great success. WestJet Vacations was actually formed from a WS/TS partnership which ended a few years ago.

Actually, Canadian Holidays is part of Transat Holidays now. Sometime in the late 1990s, before CP was merged/taken over by AC, they spun off Canadian Holidays to become "World of Vacations". WOV had a big market share at the beginning, but eventually became small and the Transat group bought them. Transat AT Inc has had several Tour Operator brands over the years, but Nolitours and Transat Holidays are the only two major ones nowadays. (and yes the two brands are the same company and staff).

In general, "Sun" Tour Operators have been around in Canada for decades going back to Wardair. And scheduled network carriers like AC, CP and all the American network airlines have had "Vacations" divisions for decades too. So no real pioneers among the current group. They're just perfecting an age old formula.
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Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:26 pm

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 36):
I don't have the exact numbers, but they do own a handful of their own a/c. I have no idea what the answer to your configuration question is. I never thought of that. Hopefully someone knows the answer.
Quoting SafeFlyer (Reply 37):
To the best of my knowledge, all of TS's 330s are on long-term leases (talking 10, 15 year leases here), none are owned.

Thanks!
It would definitely make sense to reconfigure them if they will be in the fleet for 10+ years.

Quoting tribird1011 (Reply 38):
The only thing that sets them apart is that the initial 3 -200's (GGTS, GITS, GPTS) were acquired new directly from Airbus, while all the rest were acquired 2nd hand from various airlines (Dragonair, Turkish, Edelweiss and Mexicana), although I can't say for sure which were bought (if any) or leased.

Any idea if TS prefers more -300s or -200s to replace the A310s? Obviously the -200 would make more sense capacity wise (although both models are operated in the same config).

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Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:11 am

Quoting cschleic (Reply 27):
Quoting tonystan (Reply 12):What is going on with that row immediately adjacent to the loos in economy???? It seems to onstruct the aisle and litereally have a full view of a vacant lav! Eewwwww!I noticed that, too. At least if you have to go, you don't have to run far.

I agree. That is HORRIBLE! The refurb looks very nice, fresh, and modern, but having so many seats smack in between the lavatorys is gross and uncomfortable. They would have been better off consolidating all the lavs in the middle of the plane that would eliminate the need to place passenger seats in between them as well as providing a bulkhead area with a pass thru. I pulled up their seatmaps on seatguru and they have 4-6 seat bank of 3 seats that are placed between lavatories in the mid and aft cabin. I would be miserable for 8-10 hours with 300 people pooping, peeing, and farting next to me in the lav.
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RE: Air Transat Unveils New Cabins And New Club Class

Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:58 am

The Europe flights are operated for Canadian Affair, they used to share the flying with TCX and to YYC occasionally ZB, but they are now running the entire programme.

I have used them three times now and will probably do so again this year. For $900 cheaper than AC, BA and now VS, thats nothing to sneeze at when its your personal money. I am rather larger than I should be at 5'7" and 220 lbs, so legroom is not an issue, but the seat width is. That being said, I have found the 332 is actually OK, GTSZ ex MX bird with the PTV's anyway, though you can forget sleep. The A310 however was horrific. I basically flew it to tick the type off my log and I vowed never again. However, to fly YYZ-GLA for $250 is probably worth enduring the agony for...

I found the cabin service was friendly, efficient and generally much better than most legacy airlines and the meals have improved a lot, and they throw in some little complimentary extras you wouldnt expect for such low fares, like wine & candy and more frequent passing through the cabin with water than AC.

To introduce a nice fresh interior and image is great and I would be very happy to see them grow and prosper to reward the hard working guys & gals there.

If AC ever failed or cut back, I could see them jumping in on the Europe routes, plus possibly some transcons and some strategic codesharing with WS on domestic flights.
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