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UA IAD-CDG Upguage To Ipte 763

Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:59 am

Summer schedule confirms IAD-CDG will be upguaged to a 3-cabin IPTE 763. As is well known, the 2-cabin CO 752 was having severe issues completing the route as the aircraft was being pushed to its absolute limits. UA was getting hammered from corporate accounts on both side of the Atlantic for their inability to provide nonstop service. A national story in the WSJ served to further increase the heat and throw doubt on the decision.

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Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:26 am

BRAVO, a 757 to a city it never should have flown to bights the dust. A 757 from Washington to Paris is ridiculous, what was United thinking. Maybe UA should launch one-stop 757 Houston to Europe flights with a stop in lovely Nova Scotia.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:52 am

The decision to put a 757 on IAD-CDG is one of the more idiotic airline decisions of all time.

In an ideal world, the person who made that decision and the ones who signed off on it should be fired before they make any more foolis, off the wall decisions.

On a more positrive note, I am glad that UA has come to their senses. I wonder if the advance booksings took a real nose dive and thats what brought UA around to putting a 763. Progress any way we can get it.
 
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RE: UA IAD-CDG Upguage To Ipte 763

Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:56 am

Quoting kfitz (Thread starter):
Summer schedule confirms IAD-CDG will be upguaged to a 3-cabin IPTE 763. As is well known, the 2-cabin CO 752 was having severe issues completing the route as the aircraft was being pushed to its absolute limits. UA was getting hammered from corporate accounts on both side of the Atlantic for their inability to provide nonstop service. A national story in the WSJ served to further increase the heat and throw doubt on the decision.

Hate to rain on your little parade, but that 752 is taking over 1 of the IAD-LHR trips this summer. So IAD-CDG will be a sUA 763, IAD-LHR will have a sCO 752.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:28 pm

Also EWR-CDG is going from 1 757 and 1 767 to 2 757s.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:34 pm

Quoting CONTACREW (Reply 3):

Correct. There will still be two 3-cabin widebody 777s daily to Heathrow for those so inclined.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:49 pm

Quoting IADLHR (Reply 2):
In an ideal world, the person who made that decision and the ones who signed off on it should be fired before they make any more foolis, off the wall decisions.

Really? Seems a tad irrational...you know CO flew 757s on EWR-CDG and continues to do so on EWR-LHR, which are routes with significantly more first/business demand than IAD-CDG, right?

FTR, I thought it wasn't the best move to put 757s against an A380, particularly when UA is so peaked at IAD. However, given EWR's 757 experience, there was some logic to the move as it allowed UA to increase frequency without completely destroying the economics. The test didn't work as well as planned, so a widebody returns to the route. No big deal. Should all the DL staff be fired for all the routes that they've tried over the years and failed? Heck no. Sometimes you actually have to implement ideas to see whether or not they actually work.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:58 pm

I'm selfishly happy to see the 767 return to IAD-CDG. Question though: Will they be getting rid of the second daily flight (which was introduced when they brought the 757s to the route)?

Quoting kfitz (Thread starter):
Summer schedule confirms IAD-CDG will be upguaged to a 3-cabin IPTE 763.

I'd expect this to be a 2-class 763 eventually.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 4):
Also EWR-CDG is going from 1 757 and 1 767 to 2 757s.

Interesting. I truly believe that all A.netter complaints aside, CO/UA management doesn't view the 757 on a "prestigious" route as a bad thing at all. I'm sure they'd be happy to have multiple daily 757s from EWR & IAD to most European cities if range/performance wasn't an issue.

Quoting CONTACREW (Reply 3):
IAD-LHR will have a sCO 752.

Interesting. I wonder if this is the AM flight?
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:01 pm

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 7):
Will they be getting rid of the second daily flight (which was introduced when they brought the 757s to the route)?

Yes.

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 7):
I'd expect this to be a 2-class 763 eventually.

I checked UA.com, it is a two class 763.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:05 pm

I just did some searching, it looks like IAD-LHR is keeping it's 3X daily widebodies and getting an additional 757-200. Not bad at all! Interesting comparison: I believe that EWR-LHR has been 4X 757 and 1X 777. IAD-LHR is pretty much the opposite.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 8):

I checked UA.com, it is a two class 763.

So will EWR-IST and IAD-CDG be the first 2-class 763 routes then? Will they have enough birds converted this soon to maintain this schedule in the summer?
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:15 pm

About time. IAD-CDG was a stupid CO mgmt related decision. IAD-LHR on a 757 isn't much better but I'm assuming that will be an AM crossing. As long as the evening 777 doesn't change, then it shouldn't matter much.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 4):
Also EWR-CDG is going from 1 757 and 1 767 to 2 757s.

This sucks. UA should have no problem operating at the very least a 762 on the route since AF dropped out.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:16 pm

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 7):
Interesting. I wonder if this is the AM flight?

Nope it departs at 6:59p, odd time for a departure IMO.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:17 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 10):
About time. IAD-CDG was a stupid CO mgmt related decision. IAD-LHR on a 757 isn't much better but I'm assuming that will be an AM crossing. As long as the evening 777 doesn't change, then it shouldn't matter much

The 757 could operate the morning day flight to LHR which is not that big a deal since demand is smaller in the morning.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:19 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 12):

The 757 could operate the morning day flight to LHR which is not that big a deal since demand is smaller in the morning.

I guess it's doing well enough that United thought it best to add an additional frequency in the evening instead. Probably not a bad bet; IAD-LHR should do rather well in the summer, especially with the Olympics this year.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:20 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 10):
This sucks. UA should have no problem operating at the very least a 762 on the route since AF dropped out.

AF has not dropped out of IAD-CDG. In fact they have use a 380 on the route. IAD is also. rumored to be, one of AF most profitable routes.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:20 pm

pmUA will also take over EWR-GVA using three class 763s.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:22 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 12):
The 757 could operate the morning day flight to LHR which is not that big a deal since demand is smaller in the morning.

I agree but the problem would be the return LHR-IAD probably needs the extra seats.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:28 pm

EWR-SFO gets a PMUA 2-class 763 starting in June:

http://www.united.com/web/en-US/apps...t/seatView.aspx?lti=1&sg=6&class=W
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:31 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 17):
EWR-SFO gets a PMUA 2-class 763 starting in June:

Like I said above, does United have enough 763s converted into 2-class to maintain EWR-IST, EWR-SFO, and IAD-CDG? I can't imagine so...I could see the first two routes, but I'm not sure IAD-CDG will be 2-class (for this summer).
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:36 pm

Quoting IADLHR (Reply 2):
The decision to put a 757 on IAD-CDG is one of the more idiotic airline decisions of all time.
Quoting Tdan (Reply 6):
The test didn't work as well as planned,
Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 10):
About time. IAD-CDG was a stupid CO mgmt related decision.

The 757 on the route wasn't some kind of trial balloon, but born out of necessity. In the last year, UA shifted a 3-cabin 777 to EWR-BRU, 3-cabin 763 to EWR-ZRH, launched 2-cabin 777 IAH-LOS, and added 764 IAH-GIG. At the same time, 3 762s and 3 744s were removed from the fleet, plus multiple 777s/767s were out of service to receive new interiors. Obviously, service on some routes needed to be cut in order to sustain this expansion. Two weaker, non-core IAD-Europe routes (to SkyTeam hubs) were downgauged, unsurprisingly.

With 787s coming online later this year and domestic 763ERs being retrofit to international standard, there is more slack in the widebody schedule, IAD-CDG returns to a 767, and order is restored to the universe.  
Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 10):
This sucks. UA should have no problem operating at the very least a 762 on the route since AF dropped out.

The J class on the 762 is inferior to the 757 in virtually every way, and I can already hear the complaints about operating a dated product "on such a prestigious route".
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:38 pm

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 18):
Like I said above, does United have enough 763s converted into 2-class to maintain EWR-IST, EWR-SFO, and IAD-CDG? I can't imagine so...I could see the first two routes, but I'm not sure IAD-CDG will be 2-class (for this summer).

Maybe the EWR-SFO will be a 763 pre-IPTE??? or maybe even the EWR-IST will be pre-IPTE???
 
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RE: UA IAD-CDG Upguage To Ipte 763

Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:40 pm

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 18):
Like I said above, does United have enough 763s converted into 2-class to maintain EWR-IST, EWR-SFO, and IAD-CDG? I can't imagine so...I could see the first two routes, but I'm not sure IAD-CDG will be 2-class (for this summer).

It could possibly be a routing involving IAD, EWR, SFO, IST and CDG, using aircraft during downtime and shuffling a rather small (to begin with) fleet through the system, as required.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:42 pm

Quoting IADLHR (Reply 14):
Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 10):This sucks. UA should have no problem operating at the very least a 762 on the route since AF dropped out.

AF has not dropped out of IAD-CDG. In fact they have use a 380 on the route. IAD is also. rumored to be, one of AF most profitable routes

It was OpenSkies that flew its last IAD-ORY flight last October 28th.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:44 pm

Quoting United787 (Reply 20):
Maybe the EWR-SFO will be a 763 pre-IPTE??? or maybe even the EWR-IST will be pre-IPTE???

Starting off EWR-IST will be flown with a 3-cabin 763, then later on down the road will transition to the reconfigured 2-cabin 763.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:56 pm

Quoting United787 (Reply 20):
Maybe the EWR-SFO will be a 763 pre-IPTE??? or

When I randomly checked it, EWR-SFO is a "ghetto bird" 763. Still, I don't think EWR-SFO has seen any widebodies on this route since the early 2000s -- If not, then 1999. Quite exciting.

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 19):
The J class on the 762 is inferior to the 757 in virtually every way, and I can already hear the complaints about operating a dated product "on such a prestigious route".

More space in J on the 762. Plus if you have that middle seat in the 2-1-2 configuration, you're set. There are lots of complaints about the cramped nature of the size of the flatbed on the PMCO 752s.

Quoting IADLHR (Reply 14):

No but AF dropped out of EWR-CDG (what I was referring to) hence why 2x 757 for UA on EWR-CDG is just lame.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:05 pm

I called it -- and I expect it to eventually be a two class 763.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:25 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 24):

More space in J on the 762. Plus if you have that middle seat in the 2-1-2 configuration, you're set. There are lots of complaints about the cramped nature of the size of the flatbed on the PMCO 752s.

Flat beats recliner any day of the week. I'm not a small guy and I've never had a problem with the 757 flat bed. All I'm concerned with on a transatlantic flight is getting some sleep, and there is simply no comparison between the 767 recliner and the new flat seats... not to mention the AVOD and 110V power. The only thing I miss on the 757 is the espresso machine.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:29 pm

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 26):

For taller people I'm sure it's a bit of an annoyance.

The 767s have an expresso machine? That's impressive!
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:32 pm

Well it looks like IAD-CDG will actually be a 3-class 763 (just like EWR-IST at first). I still bet that in a few months it will be a 2-class 763, along with a few other pre-merger United 3-class 763 routes.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:36 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 27):
For taller people I'm sure it's a bit of an annoyance.

Have you flown on it? I'm 6'3" 215lbs and a side sleeper. I have no problems with it... but I highly recommend the bulkhead seats.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 27):
The 767s have an expresso machine? That's impressive!

Yes, the sCO 767s and 777s have espresso machines, although you need to ask for it specifically as crews don't usually suggest it.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:42 pm

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 9):
So will EWR-IST and IAD-CDG be the first 2-class 763 routes then? Will they have enough birds converted this soon to maintain this schedule in the summer?

EWR-GVA also goes to a 2 class 763, EWR-ZRH is a 3 class 763.

Quoting IADLHR (Reply 14):
AF has not dropped out of IAD-CDG. In fact they have use a 380 on the route. IAD is also. rumored to be, one of AF most profitable routes.

He was refering to EWR.

Quoting runway23 (Reply 15):
pmUA will also take over EWR-GVA using three class 763s.

It's two class.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:36 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 30):

It's two class.
Quoting STT757 (Reply 30):
EWR-GVA also goes to a 2 class 763

Did I miss this announecment? So for international routes out of Newark, it's just EWR-ZRH,BRU, and GVA on pre-merger United aircraft right now correct? And soon to be EWR-IST?
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:41 pm

Quoting kfitz (Thread starter):
As is well known, the 2-cabin CO 752 was having severe issues completing the route as the aircraft was being pushed to its absolute limits. UA was getting hammered from corporate accounts on both side of the Atlantic for their inability to provide nonstop service. A national story in the WSJ served to further increase the heat and throw doubt on the decision.

Do you actually know that the decision was because of the 757 having to make fuel diversions? December was a bad month with strong winds and about 30% of the flights diverting, but there have not been any fuel diversions since January 2nd. Summer typically does not have the strong winds resulting in diversions.

I personally think the reason is seasonal capacity adjustment. Summer is peak travel season across the Atlantic and UA is very flexible with capacity adjustments. While having a strong business contingent, CDG is one of the more seasonal airports in Europe for demand compared to BRU, AMS or FRA. I won't be surprised to see it back to 757s in the off season again.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:45 pm

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 19):
The 757 on the route wasn't some kind of trial balloon, but born out of necessity. In the last year, UA shifted a 3-cabin 777 to EWR-BRU, 3-cabin 763 to EWR-ZRH, launched 2-cabin 777 IAH-LOS, and added 764 IAH-GIG. At the same time, 3 762s and 3 744s were removed from the fleet, plus multiple 777s/767s were out of service to receive new interiors. Obviously, service on some routes needed to be cut in order to sustain this expansion. Two weaker, non-core IAD-Europe routes (to SkyTeam hubs) were downgauged, unsurprisingly.

Washington to Paris, France " Non-Core" ? Really ? Paris is Not a Star alliance hub but its still one of the European Big 3. O & D from Washington should make it "core". United has a funny way of Prioitizing which flights are important, getting rid of Continetal's 762ER planes is a real bad decision, those planes could fly J class heavy routes to Brazil.

UA should NOt get rid of any 767, 777 or 747 aircraft until they have 20 787 or NEW 777( not yet ordred). The long haul fleet is too maxed out with new routes to Lagos and less 762's.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:50 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 32):

30%? It might had been more than that on some weeks. Etiher way it's unacceptable.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:53 pm

It wasn't more than that any weeks.

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Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:01 pm

Wait, so what's the new configuration of the 767-300's? Will they have AVOD and wifi?
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:06 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 34):

30%? It might had been more than that on some weeks. Etiher way it's unacceptable.

Undesirable… Absolutely yes. Unacceptable… UA management doesn't think so. Some airlines would never operate a route that might require tech stops in an attempt to maximize RASM vs CASM. It is a disservice to passengers to have an airplane that may require a seasonal tech stop. However United is not a 5 star airline and management knows that it isn't a 5 star airline and they don't try to compete against 5 star airlines that have very high operating costs. On the routes it competes, UA does make comprimises because it has to. None of its airplanes with more range have the ideal premium vs economy seating density, so it's a tradeoff.

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 33):
Washington to Paris, France " Non-Core" ? Really ? Paris is Not a Star alliance hub but its still one of the European Big 3. O & D from Washington should make it "core". United has a funny way of Prioitizing which flights are important, getting rid of Continetal's 762ER planes is a real bad decision, those planes could fly J class heavy routes to Brazil.

UA should NOt get rid of any 767, 777 or 747 aircraft until they have 20 787 or NEW 777( not yet ordred). The long haul fleet is too maxed out with new routes to Lagos and less 762's.

That was the mentality of United before bankruptcy and that is exactly where it led United. They operated routes based on prestige and because there was a large market and not necessarily because they could earn money on the route. Yields on IAD-CDG are rather atrocious in low season. CDG does not have enough demand in First and Business to justify 3-class airplanes with relative low density seating. CDG does not have the First Class revenue as LHR or FRA do for UA. The 757 is much better suited to the route with its higher density of Economy seating. BRU for example has better revenue than CDG in F and C and has 3 class service with a 777. UA could use that 777 to CDG and use the 757s to BRU since it is a secondary market and CDG is one of the Big 3, but that isn't what earns them money.

The 762 would not have the range problems, but it won't make more money for UA unless UA utilizes its benefit which is more Business Class seats and fewer economy seats. If the RASM isn't there in business class on IAD-CDG especially when the competition operates an A380, UA would be earning less money operating the 767. There are consequences of operating the 757, which is that during abnormal wind conditions a fuel stop is required. That is factored in as it lowers passenger satisfaction and flights requiring a fuel diversion are more expensive. However planning for 20 fuel diversions out of 360 flights might make business sense.

The 767-200s are hard airplanes to earn money with. UA's new management operates routes that earn money and is profitable because of that. They don't operate routes based on prestige like some airlines in the world do.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:13 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 37):
That was the mentality of United before bankruptcy and that is exactly where it led United. They operated routes based on prestige and because there was a large market and not necessarily because they could earn money on the route. Yields on IAD-CDG are rather atrocious in low season. CDG does not have enough demand in First and Business to justify 3-class airplanes with relative low density seating. CDG does not have the First Class revenue as LHR or FRA do for UA. The 757 is much better suited to the route with its higher density of Economy seating. BRU for example has better revenue than CDG in F and C and has 3 class service with a 777. UA could use that 777 to CDG and use the 757s to BRU since it is a secondary market and CDG is one of the Big 3, but that isn't what earns them money.

Yup. I think there are a lot of natural routes from Newark, Washington, and Chicago that will not require 3-class aircraft from United once everything gets sorted out. Paris is pretty high on that list, at least form Washington and Chicago.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:20 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 33):
Washington to Paris, France " Non-Core" ? Really ? Paris is Not a Star alliance hub but its still one of the European Big 3. O & D from Washington should make it "core". United has a funny way of Prioitizing which flights are important, getting rid of Continetal's 762ER planes is a real bad decision, those planes could fly J class heavy routes to Brazil.

AF pretty much owns that route. They have an A380 and 777 on IAD-CDG already. UA picks up the people who have to fly UA. Why put a bigger plane on the route than necessary?
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:42 pm

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 26):
Flat beats recliner any day of the week. I'm not a small guy and I've never had a problem with the 757 flat bed.

I agree. I'm 6'1" @ 265 lbs (obviously all muscle   ) and enjoy the flat-beds on the MIA-EWR - (LHR) route. If there is so much room that you can lose your wallet down the side of the seat, then you are not cramped.
 
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RE: UA IAD-CDG Upguage To Ipte 763

Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:12 pm

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 31):
So for international routes out of Newark, it's just EWR-ZRH,BRU, and GVA on pre-merger United aircraft right now correct? And soon to be EWR-IST?

And EZE.
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RE: UA IAD-CDG Upguage To Ipte 763

Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:23 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 41):

EWR:

PMUA 763s: EZE, IST, GVA, ZRH. SFO is showing up as a 2-class 763.

PMUA 757: SAN, SEA, MCO, MIA, BOS, ORD, DEN, SFO.

PMUA A319/A320: SXM, ORD, DEN, CLE, LAX, LAS, SFO
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RE: UA IAD-CDG Upguage To Ipte 763

Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:28 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 42):
PMUA 757: SAN, SEA, MCO, MIA, BOS, ORD, DEN, SFO.

PMUA A319/A320: SXM, ORD, DEN, CLE, LAX, LAS, SFO

You can add an IAH turn to both of those.
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RE: UA IAD-CDG Upguage To Ipte 763

Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:24 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 42):
EWR:

PMUA 763s: EZE, IST, GVA, ZRH. SFO is showing up as a 2-class 763.

PMUA 757: SAN, SEA, MCO, MIA, BOS, ORD, DEN, SFO.

PMUA A319/A320: SXM, ORD, DEN, CLE, LAX, LAS, SFO

And a PMUA 3 class 777 EWR-BRU.
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RE: UA IAD-CDG Upguage To Ipte 763

Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:32 pm

IAD-CDG is slated for 3-class until as far out as I can see.

IAH-DEN gets a weekend 2-class 763 with continuing service to HNL (not a permanent schedule, and I cant figure out where its getting routed into IAH)

ORD-AMS moves to a 2-class 763

EWR-GVA moves to a 3-class 763

and as anotehr has posted, EWR-SFO is getting widebody service.

A few other changes for 763 into Europe, but it hasn't been made public nor been mentinoed internally out of certain groups.
 
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RE: UA IAD-CDG Upguage To Ipte 763

Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:39 pm

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 45):
IAH-DEN gets a weekend 2-class 763 with continuing service to HNL (not a permanent schedule, and I cant figure out where its getting routed into IAH)

It looks like its the LIM bird. On those Saturdays and Sundays that it operates...as far as I can tell, IAH-SFO is not operated with a 763 but with a 752. I only see it on IAH-DEN no return.

[Edited 2012-03-26 16:40:52]
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RE: UA IAD-CDG Upguage To Ipte 763

Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:43 am

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 45):
ORD-AMS moves to a 2-class 763

As of when? I'll ask again: How many of the 14 763s will be in the 2-class IPTE conversion as of this summer?
 
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RE: UA IAD-CDG Upguage To Ipte 763

Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:45 am

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 45):
A few other changes for 763 into Europe, but it hasn't been made public nor been mentinoed internally out of certain groups.

Anything out of IAH? Are there any rumblings of 744 or 777 out of IAH?
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RE: UA IAD-CDG Upguage To Ipte 763

Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:02 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 4):
Also EWR-CDG is going from 1 757 and 1 767 to 2 757s.

Since AF is pulling out, I'd think this would give UA the opportunity to increase their service. One JY 75W and a JY 763ER.

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 33):
United has a funny way of Prioitizing which flights are important, getting rid of Continetal's 762ER planes is a real bad decision, those planes could fly J class heavy routes to Brazil.

I think they should have kept all of them around until they start receiving 788s.

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