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BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:20 pm

Just checking to fly to Beirut on Monday and results are now coming up as British Airways flights on the route
BA8050 Departing Heathrow 1240 and
BA8058 Departing Heathrow 1600 , both operated by BMI A321s
Well, that happened a lot quicker than I expected!
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:48 pm

Will BMI now be integrated into OneWorld?
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:53 pm

Quoting JAL (Reply 1):
Will BMI now be integrated into OneWorld?

IAG will merge BD into BA. So it will become a oneworld airline automatically. Be interesting to see if the Star Alliance titles and logo will be quickly painted out once the deal is finalised, probably on 20 April.
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:57 pm

Quoting raffik (Thread starter):
Just checking to fly to Beirut on Monday and results are now coming up as British Airways flights on the route
BA8050 Departing Heathrow 1240 and
BA8058 Departing Heathrow 1600 , both operated by BMI A321s
Well, that happened a lot quicker than I expected!

Where did you see that? I checked on ba.com and I could not find anything.
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:03 pm

It's been loaded onto Expedia and Opodo
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:32 pm

Dumb question, but when they "merge BD into BA" - will they retain the BD brand identity, flight numbers etc (so that BD continues to operate as a 'separate' airline - albeit with BA flight numbers also), or are we talking a full-scale absorption of BD into the BA brand? Confused, this has happened pretty fast!
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:35 pm

From the crew that I've spoken to, BMI will be fully absorbed and won't operate as a separate entity.
It will BA branded 100%. Just on a side note, BA have loaded in ridiculously cheap Beirut flights-
£350 return for a £490 flight. I just phoned Expedia up and booked myself a return for May.
Get in!
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:37 pm

Quoting Ratypus (Reply 5):
are we talking a full-scale absorption of BD into the BA brand?

I believe that everyone is assuming that, fairly quickly, BMI will disappear completely. Staff and assets all becoming part of BA. I don't think the BMI brand will last any longer than is absolutely neccessary.

Does anyone know if a date has been given at which BMI Gold Star alliance cards will stop working for lounge access etc.?
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:50 pm

Thanks - that's happened quickly; very little about it in the mainstream press (unless I have missed it all!). Just got to hope that BA maintain the network - BD fill some very interesting gaps in service from the UK and it would be shame if the LHR slots were all re-purposed to add frequency on existing BA North America routes....
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:48 pm

When BA bought Dan Air for £1 back ion 7 November 1992 every aircraft was quickly painted - almost within days - with 'British Airways' titles. Those aircraft that remained in BA service for the medium term were thern repainted over the following six or seven months in the BA Landor livery then current. Those that were not retained were never painted in BA livery. So, for example, a couple of 733s (G-BOWR and G-SCUH) were painted with 'British Airways' titles in the November but left the BA fleet in April and June 1993 while still painted in Dan Air colours:


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How much history will be a guide to the future we will have to wait and see. But whatever I cannot see this one flying in its current livery for very long:


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Of course one advantage BA will have in the coming weeks is a paint shop at LHR and another (ex-BD) one at EMA.
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:06 pm

Codesharing on 9 routes confirmed by airlineroute.net:

https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status/187196121322504193

"British Airways has started codeshare service with bmi to Almaty, Addis Ababa, Beirut, Bishkek, Baku, Yerevan, Tbilisi"
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:25 pm

Quoting Ratypus (Reply 5):
Dumb question, but when they "merge BD into BA" - will they retain the BD brand identity, flight numbers etc (so that BD continues to operate as a 'separate' airline - albeit with BA flight numbers also), or are we talking a full-scale absorption of BD into the BA brand? Confused, this has happened pretty fast!

Although nothing has been announced / confirmed officially about the processes that will happen now the merger will take place; It is believed that from the end of April all current bmi operated flight's will actually be operated by BA on bmi metal. While the bmi brand is being absorbed into BA, the current bmi schedule and routes will continue to be operated up untill the end of the summer 2012 schedule. Again this is just rumours from inside and around, not actually been announced yet...
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:54 pm

I'm booked on LHR-BEY-LHR with BD in late Septmember 2012. I have just put my booking reference number into BA website and reservation is showing on BA website too.
Wow, it didn't take them that long.

On BA website is showing it being operated by an A320, BD booking shows A321, so hopefully it will be operated by an A321 as they have PVT/AVOD.

[Edited 2012-04-03 11:23:39]
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:08 pm

Flights are now loaded in BA.com.
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:21 pm

Quoting santos (Reply 12):
I'm booked on LHR-BEY-LHR with BD in late Septmember 2012. I have just put my booking reference number into BA website and reservation is showing on BA website too.
Wow, it didn't take them that long.

Same for my flight to NCE in May. Hmm now what frequent flyer number to put in... Im currently earning VS flying club miles on a BA flight! Cant see that lasting too long either.

[Edited 2012-04-03 11:24:49]
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:24 pm

Bye Bye BMI  

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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:49 pm

Quoting LHRFlyer (Reply 10):
"British Airways has started codeshare service with bmi to Almaty, Addis Ababa, Beirut, Bishkek, Baku, Yerevan, Tbilisi"

On the BA Intranet it has just appeared.
It also includes Freetown and Khartoum.
It states BMI summer schedule will operate as planned.

Following agreement with the pilots, BMI will be absorbed and run as a common fleet.
The BMI pilots will be converted to BA SOPs on courses this autumn.
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:04 pm

Does that mean that BA will operate a sub fleet of A321/A320s for BD's routes or will they sub them with BA's medium haul 767s & 777s?
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:05 pm

Ironic some of the routes now on BA codeshare are ex Bmed routes anyway which went from a BA franchise to BD now on a BA codeshare
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:17 pm

Quoting santos (Reply 12):
I'm booked on LHR-BEY-LHR with BD in late Septmember 2012. I have just put my booking reference number into BA website and reservation is showing on BA website too.
Wow, it didn't take them that long.

BA and BD both host flights using Amadeus, so this has actually been possible for quite a while. Not sure if it was something that needed a formal switchover, or not. For example you can also look at your BD itenary on LOT.com (a great website), LH.com, etc.

Quoting LHRFlyer (Reply 10):
"British Airways has started codeshare service with bmi to Almaty, Addis Ababa, Beirut, Bishkek, Baku, Yerevan, Tbilisi"

I guess this gives an indication that at least some of the mid-haul network is of interest to BA. They did maintain a codeshare on many of these routes when B|MED was purchased by BD.

Quoting raffik (Reply 17):
Does that mean that BA will operate a sub fleet of A321/A320s for BD's routes or will they sub them with BA's medium haul 767s & 777s?

I think they may keep a sub-fleet, I don't think anything has been decided yet. Interestingly those mid-haul Airbuses should be all but identical to BA Airbusses, as they were originally ordered by BA, but delivered to and operated by B|MED for BA.
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:17 pm

Do you think the domestic flights will be included in the code share agreement?
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:26 pm

But what will happen with BMI's route from LHR to SVG and BGO. Will it be axed when IAG takes over from BMI or will it still continue?

Those two cities have a lot of oil activities and like that.
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:30 pm

I'm just going to throw this out there and see what answer I get

Now that bmi will become a fully intregrated part of BA --- (Always knew this would happen...) -- Will BA drop the 767 fleet from European flights and use the bmi airbuses for those routes?

BA could use the - soon to be refurbished and in dire need of it - 767 fleet for more international flights..
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:08 pm

Quoting iain2012 (Reply 22):

Now that bmi will become a fully intregrated part of BA --- (Always knew this would happen...) -- Will BA drop the 767 fleet from European flights and use the bmi airbuses for those routes?

BA could use the - soon to be refurbished and in dire need of it - 767 fleet for more international flights..

The reason BA keep the 767 on euro is because they need the capacity for certain routes. I dont see this need changing anytime soon or probably would have replaced them long ago.

However I do feel that many of the BD routes that BA may retain would be far more suited to the 767 then any of the other longhaul aircraft BA operate so I imagine they could probably do with more longhaul config 767s as they are pretty stretched as it is!
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:15 pm

I was really hoping for some wide body services to Beirut from BA. Not that there is anything wrong with the A321s.
BD recently refurbed their A321/320s with brown leather seats, I am wondering that if BA keeps the BD fleet will they configure them to the blue leather seats as seen on mainline BA aircraft. I suspect the next few months will be very interesting!
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:44 pm

Quoting barca (Reply 21):

Still nobody knows what will happen with SVG and BGO when IAG takes over the routes from BMI?
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:55 pm

Quoting iain2012 (Reply 22):
Now that bmi will become a fully intregrated part of BA --- (Always knew this would happen...) -- Will BA drop the 767 fleet from European flights and use the bmi airbuses for those routes?
Quoting raffik (Reply 24):
BD recently refurbed their A321/320s with brown leather seats, I am wondering that if BA keeps the BD fleet will they configure them to the blue leather seats as seen on mainline BA aircraft. I suspect the next few months will be very interesting!

There are only two A330's in BMIs fleet. The A330 isn't compliant with the BA fleet so I wouldn't be surprised if IAG transfer them over to IB or sell them (IIRC they are owned).

I would be very surprised if they're integrated into BA.

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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:04 pm

Quoting raffik (Reply 24):
I was really hoping for some wide body services to Beirut from BA. Not that there is anything wrong with the A321s.
BD recently refurbed their A321/320s with brown leather seats, I am wondering that if BA keeps the BD fleet will they configure them to the blue leather seats as seen on mainline BA aircraft. I suspect the next few months will be very interesting!

Don't forget BA already have their 767 aircraft assigned to routes for this summer already, so they wouldn't be replacing any ex-bmi A321 routes until any time after this period. I do see an opportunity though for BA to operate these routes on the 767 aircraft in the future. They could even retain the 7x 767 aircraft that are due to be retired (the ones that are not due to be refurbishing this year). These 7 could then replace the 7xA321 (med-haul config) aircraft like for like, seeing as though these would otherwise be leaving the fleet.

This would then help keep the product offering at BA as streamlined as possible. By keeping the A32's fleet on the short-haul network and offering the standard BA medium/long-haul product of CW, WT+, WT by using it's LH 767's on these routes.

Should BA choose to retain the majority ex-bmi A32's aircraft then yes I would expect to see them re-fitted with a blue interior, but for now, unfortunately I feel this will definitely be low on the list of things to do. I have to admit though, those medium-haul bmi A321 are great to travel on, either in business or economy so it will be a shame to see the product go.

[Edited 2012-04-03 15:05:44]
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:04 pm

Quoting barca (Reply 25):

When I flew to BGO it was opped by BMIregional. That airline is not currently projected to be part of the sale, however the suggested buyers have not been able to close the deal and hand over the dibs.

Therefore at the moment we have no idea if those routes will remain or not.

BMI regional could be part of the sale. Informed rumour is that BMIRegional will be closed down by BA. I can't see the routes being retained.
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:59 pm

I hope BA reinstates LHR ESB just like BMED did with BA codeshare and then route suspended by BD later on when they bought BMED in late 2008 as BD could nont agree on a codeshare with TK under a *A for this route.

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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:08 pm

I am extremely sad to see bmi go to BA. I love flying with them and choose them over BA every time. I know you all say it's what is necessary for bmi though. I guess we can expect a reduction in MAN-LHR when timetables are combined as well as the suspension of any regional flights ex MAN. What a shame!

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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:57 pm

What routes will BA gain from bmi ??... ie places they dont currently fly too themselves

I know BA are keen to keep flying LHR-BHD - Will BA keep the ex BMed medium haul routes? Dublin?
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:46 am

Wait a Minute .... does this mean we finally get to see an A330 in BA colours? ... or is IAG assigning those to Iberia?
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:12 am

It is hard to see BA operate a fleet of 2 A330's.

IMO, it was probably not workable for BD either.
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:52 am

A330's will not appear in BA colours and will be disposed of as soon as possible
Id be surprised if BA operated DUB, as they already have a satisfactory arrangement with EI
BFS is a little unusual and I suspect there will be a fanfare of launch for a few years then will be quietly dropped again
The ex BMED hotspot routes will be trialled and cherry picked, most I suspect will be dropped bar two or three, in particular Beruit.
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:32 am

Are there plans to move BD flights to T5? I can't see BA being happy to split ops over three terminals.
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:46 am

It is going to be very interesting to see how they split there ops. Is there room in T5 / 3 to accomodate BD?

Will BA no longer be using Service air / Aviance to run ground ops for BD at LHR now?

The million dollar question.... Will LGW see any of the BD fleet?
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:36 am

Quoting iain2012 (Reply 31):
Will BA keep the ex BMed medium haul routes?

I suspect that they will keep BEY as this was one of BD's higher yielding destinations but I wonder if the two add on destinations served from BEY will be retained- the onward connections to Khartoum and Adis Ababa.

I've read elsewhere that BD's Cairo services have to be relinquished. I imagine Amman will go - their fares are very low there since Easyjet started flying on the route also (as low as £199 return).

Damascus will probably stay as these flights also go full in both directions and Syrian Arab offer little competition with their haphazard timetable to London.

All that BMI are saying is that their summer schedule will operate normally, but when I looked for flights as far as January they still state "Operated by BMI". Whether or not as the integration progresses, they will just come up as BA services I am not sure. I can't imagine that BA would want flights operating under BMI livery for long- so this could either happen up until the end of the summer schedule (October) and then the liveries changed or more immediately, unsure!

It is sad on one hand that BMI are disappearing but on the other hand, jobs and routes are being saved.
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:56 am

Quoting by738 (Reply 34):

BD operate out of BHD not BFS. If BA keep BHD what will happen to the code share with EI out of BFS? Also what will happen to the BD service to DUB? Will BA keep or stick with the EI operation?

Quoting bevisisback (Reply 35):

Can't see BA wanting to operate across three LHR terminals again. Some of the *A carriers like TK and SK could probably be moved over to T1 to free up space for BA at T3. Also remember IB are moving to T5 so that frees up some stands for BD in T3.

What will happen to the big sign as you enter the LHR central terminals by road saying welcome to the home of BMI? Be nice to see it changed to BA since BA is the biggest airline at LHR.

Has anything been confirmed about bmi regional sale or shut down? Would be cool to see IAG keep this unit and merge it into their BA citiflyer subsidiary. Yes I know BACF only fly from LCY but since bmi regional is reported to be profitable why not keep the routes that make money? BACF has lower cost structure than BA mainline so operated this way those regional routes should continue to make money. Would be good to see a little bit more of BA in the regions doing these existing routes. Either that or sell to BE and stick a BA code share on them.
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:07 am

When BA start operating the BHD route I can expect to see the EI BFS agreement being dropped as it will simply not be needed. However, one aspect I am curious about is that in BHD, BMI have a very large (usually empty) business lounge, will this become a BA lounge or possibly turn into a pay-to-use lounge?
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:08 am

Quoting spud757 (Reply 38):
BD operate out of BHD not BFS. If BA keep BHD what will happen to the code share with EI out of BFS? Also what will happen to the BD service to DUB? Will BA keep or stick with the EI operation?

At the very start when it was announced that IAG were trying to buy BMI they said that they would keep the service from LHR to BHD. Not sure what will happen with regards to EI service from BFS. BHD is much closer to the city and I would guess LHR-BHD attracts the highest fares between London and Belfast.
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:38 am

With regards to the painting of BMI A32Xs in BA colours, would they conciser painting the BMI aircraft into the Olympics dove livery rather than doing the same to BA A32Xs? Might save them some paint.

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 26):
There are only two A330's in BMIs fleet. The A330 isn't compliant with the BA fleet so I wouldn't be surprised if IAG transfer them over to IB or sell them (IIRC they are owned).
Quoting SSPhoenix (Reply 32):
Wait a Minute .... does this mean we finally get to see an A330 in BA colours? ... or is IAG assigning those to Iberia?

Logically it would make sense for them to be transferred to Iberia, however the A330s that Iberia have on order are to be powered by GE engines while BMI's A330s have RR engines. This may cause commonality issues.

Quoting ThomasCook (Reply 30):
I am extremely sad to see bmi go to BA.

Me also. It is a pity that such a beautiful livery will be consigned to history.  
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:07 pm

I think there will be a surplus of Airbus aircraft as part of the sale so it wouldn't surprise me if they shove a load of them over to Gatwick to replace the 734s.

Also, the A330s might work better in the Iberia fleet. Maybe they will transfer them there?
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:31 pm

Quoting iain2012 (Reply 22):
Now that bmi will become a fully intregrated part of BA --- (Always knew this would happen...) -- Will BA drop the 767 fleet from European flights and use the bmi airbuses for those routes?

One reason for the operation of the 763 on many European routes is the demand for the large 763 freight hold. So dropping these 763 services seems unlikely.

Quoting zkojq (Reply 41):
With regards to the painting of BMI A32Xs in BA colours, would they conciser painting the BMI aircraft into the Olympics dove livery rather than doing the same to BA A32Xs? Might save them some paint.

The first BA Dove aircraft, G-EUOH was delivered to BA on 30 November 2001. It was painted by Airbus in the distinctively different first version of the BA Union Flag livery with the larger area of white at the top of its tail. It was the last but one aircraft to appear in this version of the current livery. Here it is with a sister ship in the current version to compare:


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So 'OH has been flying for more than a decade without being repainted. This is an extraordinary period particularly for a short haul aircraft that spends a higher proportion of its flying hours flying through the (low altitude) weather. It also shows that this aircraft was overdue for a paint job at least judged by time if not appearance.

Three other BA 319s, G-EUOD, 'OE and 'OF are also still painted in the old version of the Union Flag livery. So I expect them to appear next in the Dove livery. After that . . . Who knows?

As an aside congratulations to the Airbus paint shop at XFW for such a good and long lasting job on these four aircraft.
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:52 pm

Where does BMI fly where BA doesn't?
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:16 pm

Quoting gulfstream650 (Reply 44):
Where does BMI fly where BA doesn't?

Think theyve got a bigger presence in west africa & central asia, plus (I think) they serve a few ME destinations that BA dont.

I would be more specific but Im not 100% on this, sorry.

[Edited 2012-04-04 07:17:39]
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:18 pm

What about destinations such as RUH where BA and BD both fly? Have BA flight numbers been loaded onto the BD flights and is BA planning on continuing on these routes once the merger has been completed?
 
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:25 pm

I think Amman will stop as it has been stipulated that BA should terminate its RJ code sharing if it is to operate to Amman. I think BA will keep the RJ code and use the slots for other services.

I think that most of the links to CIS, ME and Casablanca will be kept along Belfast. I think we will see the axing of AMM, FNA, AGA, RAK, BGO and SVG.
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gulfstream650
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:35 pm

Quoting bevisisback (Reply 45):
Think theyve got a bigger presence in west africa & central asia, plus (I think) they serve a few ME destinations that BA dont.

I would be more specific but Im not 100% on this, sorry.

New code shares:


• Yerevan (Armenia)
• Baku (Azerbaijan)
• Addis Ababa (Ethiopia)
• Tbilisi (Georgia)
• Almaty (Kazakhstan)
• Freetown (Sierra Leone)

Other destinations that BA does not serve:

Amman
Amritsar
Beirut
Bergen
Bisher
Damman
Dublin
Hannover
Jeddah
Palma
Salzburg
Tehran

Please correct the above if wrong.
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RE: BA Flight Numbers Now On BMI Flights

Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:16 pm

Quoting iain2012 (Reply 22):
Now that bmi will become a fully intregrated part of BA --- (Always knew this would happen...) -- Will BA drop the 767 fleet from European flights and use the bmi airbuses for those routes?

I think they use the 767s more for the capacity they offer, rather than that they are short of Airbusses. Im not sure that the addition of BD will do much to change this, although it may mean some scheduling changes to the long-haul 777s and/or 767s to cover the pair of A330s, which will almost certainly be disposed of, I would think.

Quoting gulfstream650 (Reply 48):
Please correct the above if wrong.

Almost right. There are 9 codeshare destinations, all on sale from tomorrow. Avios and TP will be earned on BA code.

Addis Ababa
Almaty^
Baku
Bishkek
Beirut
Khartoum
Freetown^
Tbilisi
Yerevan

Basically all UK, Ireland and European destinations are missing, as is AMM (apparently due to rights), Amiristar, Bisher. Damman, Jeddah (already served by BA) and Tehran. So no codeshare to Iran, Saudi or Jordan. Not sure what that implies - probably nothing as BA may not have rights to offer their code on services to those countries.
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