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Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:10 am

I didn't see it covered if it is please go easy on me. Today, "Warrier" WN's first of many brand new 737-800's ferried in and is overnighting at gate A-3. Plenty of FL/WN crew were there to welcome this bird to our humble abode both on the ramp and at the gate. She originated in DAL, made an appearance to the land of Prune Juice, Wheel Chairs and Murder She Wrote (RSW). Then, Warrier took off to FLL to greet all those hottie Spring Break honies. The nubile hotties were a bit peeved I wasn't on board but you can't have everything. She's going to go on test flights and is supposed to start service on April 11 doing BWI-RSW runs which are already sold out.

My spin! Excellent! To say her cabin is sweet would be an understatement. My observations.
  • - Upon boarding it's more open than your 737-700's. This creates that 787 look.
  • - LED lighting abounds!
  • - The bins are generous and tilt away. They float open. Looks like they could hold double what is stuffed in the bins of our 717 and 737-700's
  • - 1 Class Seating for 175 passengers. Rows go up to 30.
  • - 3 Lavs
  • - Aft galley
  • - Windows-"Reveal" is oval around the conventional window frame. Windows seem slightly larger than the 737-7's.
  • - PSU's done right, call button and light switch seperate. Lights a bright whiteish blue LED, Gaspers are restyled
    now shaped like flower pedals. Both lights and gaspers move as on older birds.
  • - Seems like additional leg room
  • - Seems to be open; got a quick demo of the mood/side lighting. The colors change gradually, saw red, orange, blue and Raven's purple.


I feel this bird will be a hit with our passengers. Also this bird is Wi-Fi equipped. There's a hump-bump on top the fuselage in front of the tail. I hope to check her out later tonight and see how she looks under the moon and stars.
  
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Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:02 am

I was told by someone in the know the birds will be used for "Spring Break" flying from BWI and MDW before being allocated to LGA flying. Crews are so exited about galley carts1
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Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:23 am

Quoting zippyjet (Thread starter):
Today, "Warrier" WN's first of many brand new 737-800's ferried in and is overnighting at gate A-3.

Just an observation, but shouldn't it be spelled "Warrior"?
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Quoting zippyjet (Thread starter):
- 1 Class Seating for 175 passengers. Rows go up to 30.




One thing you didn't mention. That is the new Evolve interior (Spirit 2.0), new style seats and carpet. Factory delivered this way. That is exactly the same interior (seat and carpet) that is going into our 700's. That's why it seems to have more legroom.

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Quoting 737tdi (Reply 3):
One thing you didn't mention. That is the new Evolve interior (Spirit 2.0), new style seats and carpet. Factory delivered this way. That is exactly the same interior (seat and carpet) that is going into our 700's. That's why it seems to have more legroom.

Yes, it is Warrior.



I didn't have time to spell check my error sorry. Is the "Evolve" a WN term or is this Boeing's descriptor for the 787 like layout, seating etc? Whatever it is outstanding. I got to check her out again last night after I got off and she looks as spiffy at night as during the day!
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Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:15 pm

I'm excited to see the first -800 visit in San Diego, but I'm sure my excitement will wear off completely once I experience loading it.
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Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 5):

I'm excited to see the first -800 visit in San Diego, but I'm sure my excitement will wear off completely once I experience loading it.


Hopefully the commodious overhead bins will alleviate some of that.
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Quoting zippyjet (Reply 4):
Is the "Evolve" a WN term or is this Boeing's descriptor for the 787 like layout, seating etc?




Evolve is WN's name for the new style seats/carpet/windscreens being installed on the 700's which now translates to the 800's, as far as seats and carpet that is.
 
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Quoting 737tdi (Reply 7):

Evolve is WN's name for the new style seats/carpet/windscreens being installed on the 700's which now translates to the 800's, as far as seats and carpet that is.

Sounds like a winner! I should be brushing up on my Swa Life Culture.   
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:16 am

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 6):

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 5):

I'm excited to see the first -800 visit in San Diego, but I'm sure my excitement will wear off completely once I experience loading it.


Hopefully the commodious overhead bins will alleviate some of that.


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Carry-ons haven't been an issue for a few years. Ever since the liquid ban, we haven't seen the crazy number of gate checked bags since...

I'm more worried about the company's expectation that we will be able to load these planes without adding more agents to work the flight. It's hard enough loading the back of a -700 by ones self...
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:29 am

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 9):
It's hard enough loading the back of a -700 by ones self..

Oh, come on........I've loaded the back end of a 757-200 by myself......full ship.....full load of bags..........I thought you guys "LUV" bags?  
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Quoting mayor (Reply 10):
Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 9):
It's hard enough loading the back of a -700 by ones self..

Oh, come on........I've loaded the back end of a 757-200 by myself......full ship.....full load of bags..........I thought you guys "LUV" bags?  


In 20 minutes?! (off + on)

We do it...but it's not fun.

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Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 11):

We do it...but it's not fun.

Pardon me for being blunt, but as my boss tells me: You're not there for fun, you're there to work. If you don't like it, you can always look for a new job.

 
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Quoting garpd (Reply 12):
Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 11):

We do it...but it's not fun.

Pardon me for being blunt, but as my boss tells me: You're not there for fun, you're there to work. If you don't like it, you can always look for a new job.

 


I understand that. I like my job. What I meant by that is we do the job, but it's hard work. And now we are faced with a situation where essentially the available payload is nearly being doubled and we are expected to do it with the same staffing. Yeah other airlines load 737-800s every day, but do they do it in the same amount of time and with as much frequency as us at WN? It has us concerned, that's all I was trying to say.

Our free bag campaign encourages people to pack more than is necessary. Loads have skyrocketed. Freight has increased. The job is becoming more difficult. There once was a time when working at WN was fun.

But you're right...

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Quoting zippyjet (Thread starter):
Windows seem slightly larger than the 737-7's.

The windows are the same size as all other 737s (and every other Boeing narrowbody since the 707 more than half a century ago).
 
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:06 am

Another detail I neglected to mention; The pouches on the seat backs are mesh which makes searches and cleaning quicker.
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Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 13):
essentially the available payload is nearly being doubled and we are expected to do it with the same staffing

Trust me, I know exactly where you are coming from.
It's the same in the IT world. Staff are cut, but you're expected to soak up the extra work and still attain the same targets in the same time. Those at the top haven't got a clue!

I was in a funny mood when I first responded, so I apologise if I put you out.
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Quoting zippyjet (Reply 15):
Another detail I neglected to mention; The pouches on the seat backs are mesh which makes searches and cleaning quicker




Yep, that's part of the design of the new seats. From a Maint. point we will no longer have to replace those broken springs (pita) in the pouches. Also the seat endbay lower trim is now aluminum which will eliminate even more pita work on turns. Don't get me wrong, I am not adverse to working. Just think that eliminating some of it by more modern/smarter design to increase reliability and prevent delays is the smart thing to do.
 
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Quoting 737tdi (Reply 17):
I am not adverse to working. Just think that eliminating some of it by more modern/smarter design to increase reliability and prevent delays is the smart thing to do.

True that! Makes sense. I know from a CSA perspective there are minute details that can make the difference between on time performance and delays. And in our industry it has a domino effect. Sort of like that analogy of a pebble plopping into a lake in my town which in turn causes much greater occurrences on the other side of the world.
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:59 pm

Yes, do not try to cram your laptop, purse, suitcase or child in to the seatback pocket as it will rip the mesh pocket.
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or child in to the seatback pocket

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Quoting zippyjet (Reply 18):
True that! Makes sense. I know from a CSA perspective there are minute details that can make the difference between on time performance and delays. And in our industry it has a domino effect. Sort of like that analogy of a pebble plopping into a lake in my town which in turn causes much greater occurrences on the other side of the world.

OK, I've got to bite, like when a butterfly flaps it's wings   . As all airline folks know it is absolute truth. 1 minute + 1 minute + 1 minute equals 30 minutes, don't understand the math but it is true.