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Copa Adds Flights To IQT, LIM, MIA, SCL & SJU

Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:25 pm

Copa is to introduce new flight frequencies to Lima, Miami, Santiago and San Juan:

CM493 PTYLIM Daily
CM492 LIMPTY Daily
Begins July 1st

CM172 PTYMIA Daily
CM173 MIAPTY Daily
Begins June 24

CM176 PTYSCL Daily
CM174 SCLPTY Daily
Begins June 22

CM168 PTYSJU Daily
CM169 SJUPTY Daily
Begins June 22

Also, CM will start services to Iquitos (IQT), Peru, on July 14. Iquitos is the sixth largest city in Peru and there were direct flights between IQT and MIA in the past.

CM285 PTYIQT Wed, Sat
CM286 IQTPTY Wed, Sat
Begins July 14


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Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:26 am

Wow 5th PTY-MIA flight

CM173 MIA 0625 PTY 0820 Daily B73G

CM172 PTY 1544 MIA 1944 Daily B73G


Thanks for sharing!
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:41 am

Never, never, never going to see "Copa starts Barbados"...

I just don't get it... how much praying do I have to do?
 
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RE: Copa Adds Flights To IQT, LIM, MIA, SCL & SJU

Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:46 am

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Thread starter):
Also, CM will start services to Iquitos (IQT), Peru, on July 14. Iquitos is the sixth largest city in Peru and there were direct flights between IQT and MIA in the past.

Interesting--I figured secondary Peru was imminent but I assumed it'd be something like TRU first. IQT is not a bad add though.
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RE: Copa Adds Flights To IQT, LIM, MIA, SCL & SJU

Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:01 am

Quoting turk223 (Reply 2):

Maybe it's because they can already see the grumpy and ill trained bajan immmigration seding 70% of the flight paxs back LOOOLLL, just kidin'.

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Thread starter):

You forgot CM 141 PTY MAO
CM 140 MAO PTY

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Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:39 am

Hola Ragazzo!

Incredible news CM is starting flights to IQT!!! Woow! It has been rumored a while, great its happening!!!

Iquitos sure needs connections, since there is no road leading to the city. The CM frequency might do very well in the cargo sense, not only the freight can connect on the IB or KL flight to Europe, but to dozens of destinations to the US and Central America/Mexico!!!

Still nothing on a CUZ frequency?

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Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:30 am

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 5):
Still nothing on a CUZ frequency?

I thought the Peruvian government would not allow international flights out of CUZ (well, apart from the former 5L to LPB). I think AQP will be added before CUZ
 
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RE: Copa Adds Flights To IQT, LIM, MIA, SCL & SJU

Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:43 am

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Thread starter):
Also, CM will start services to Iquitos (IQT), Peru, on July 14. Iquitos is the sixth largest city in Peru and there were direct flights between IQT and MIA in the past.

CM285 PTYIQT Wed, Sat
CM286 IQTPTY Wed, Sat
Begins July 14
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 3):
Interesting--I figured secondary Peru was imminent but I assumed it'd be something like TRU first. IQT is not a bad add though.

great nes, but I hoped for more than 2 x weekly flights... I have to go back once to IQT so lets cross fingers for good miles deals!
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RE: Copa Adds Flights To IQT, LIM, MIA, SCL & SJU

Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:23 pm

How many SJU flights now?
 
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:33 pm

this is just outstanding   !! great work..


how many daily LIM flights now ???? CUZ will be a nice addition but not CUZ - PTY can be done with "decent" loads ..
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:41 pm

Quoting copa330200 (Reply 10):
how many daily LIM flights now ???? CUZ will be a nice addition but not sure of CUZ - PTY can be done with "decent" loads ..

if I am not wrong 35 weekly flights not to LIM!

Well out of CUZ would be basically 0 freight, so I am nearly sure they could make the flight with a decent load.
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:46 pm

So LIM goes to 35 weekly or to 42 weekly?
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:04 pm

REC also starts in JUN12--that is a long, thin flight! CUR/LIR also start in JUN.
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RE: Copa Adds Flights To IQT, LIM, MIA, SCL & SJU

Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:15 pm

Quoting copa330200 (Reply 9):
CUZ will be a nice addition but not CUZ - PTY can be done with "decent" loads ..

Maybe they could try a PTY-CUZ-LIM-PTY triangular routing? I believe AA did something similar back in the 1990s when they served CUZ from MIA.
 
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Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:36 am

SJU currently has 2 daily flights from PTY, this would make it 3 flights a day.

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RE: Copa Adds Flights To IQT, LIM, MIA, SCL & SJU

Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:36 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 1):
Wow 5th PTY-MIA flight

CM173 MIA 0625 PTY 0820 Daily B73G

CM172 PTY 1544 MIA 1944 Daily B73G


Thanks for sharing!

You're most welcome ! I should have mentioned that the new flight frequency to Miami is only seasonal, though. It will run from June 23 through August 28.

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Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 3):
Interesting--I figured secondary Peru was imminent but I assumed it'd be something like TRU first. IQT is not a bad add though.

Trust me, we all assumed CM would fly first to TRU or AQP, not IQT, so it was quite a surprise when they announced Iquitos as their new Peruvian destination. That said, I still expect CM to fly to Arequipa and/or Trujillo in the future.

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Quoting Checo77 (Reply 5):
Hola Ragazzo!

Incredible news CM is starting flights to IQT!!! Woow! It has been rumored a while, great its happening!!!

Iquitos sure needs connections, since there is no road leading to the city. The CM frequency might do very well in the cargo sense, not only the freight can connect on the IB or KL flight to Europe, but to dozens of destinations to the US and Central America/Mexico!!!

Still nothing on a CUZ frequency?

Hola, Checo. I know, man, it'll be great to see Copa fly to Iquitos !! Finally, Iquiteños won't need to fly to LIM first to leave the country, so good for them !  

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Quoting jetsetter629 (Reply 6):
I thought the Peruvian government would not allow international flights out of CUZ (well, apart from the former 5L to LPB). I think AQP will be added before CUZ

Actually, the thing that's stopping most international carriers from flying into CUZ is the airport's elevation issues. Cuzco Airport is elevated 10,860 ft above mean sea level, which only allows short-haul flights (hence AeroSur services to La Paz). Also, the airport facilities are a little dated now and that's why a brand new airport is on the cards.

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Quoting avi8 (Reply 11):
So LIM goes to 35 weekly or to 42 weekly?
LIM goes 35x weekly, which makes it one of Copa's top destinations in South America in terms of flight frequencies.

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Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:42 pm

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 15):
Trust me, we all assumed CM would fly first to TRU or AQP, not IQT, so it was quite a surprise when they announced Iquitos as their new Peruvian destination.

not all,I was pritty sure that first IQT was in the pipeline, second is / was Chiclayo....

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Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:10 am

Not surprised that much, except for IQT becoming a CM destination before AQP in Peru and SJU getting a 3rd daily.
I'd not have expected SJU to be able to support thrice daily flights to PTY, well the 3 daily could be all with E190 then.

Because altitude issues, I don't see CM in CUZ or LPB any time soon.
What I'm concern is how is CM going to take-off from CWB short runway for non-stop to PTY when they probably start later this year.
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Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:36 am

ASU and BSB, along with MAO are also going from 4 weekly to daily.
 
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Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:08 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 17):
Because altitude issues, I don't see CM in CUZ or LPB any time soon.

Could CM fly LPB/CUZ-GYE-PTY...only using GYE as a tech stop for fuel?
 
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Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:46 pm

Quoting jetsetter629 (Reply 19):
Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 17):
Because altitude issues, I don't see CM in CUZ or LPB any time soon.

Could CM fly LPB/CUZ-GYE-PTY...only using GYE as a tech stop for fuel?

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Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:04 am

Quoting jetsetter629 (Reply 19):
Could CM fly LPB/CUZ-GYE-PTY...only using GYE as a tech stop for fuel?

better to split up the ops....

for example LPB-BOG-PTY (in order to have traffic righgts on both legs) and CUZ-CIX-PTY.

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Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:51 am

Quoting Avianca (Reply 21):
for example LPB-BOG-PTY (in order to have traffic righgts on both legs) and CUZ-CIX-PTY.

CM thru P5 could operate PTY-BOG-LPB but it seems none of CM aircraft is OK to operate into LPB or CUZ.
My bet is that AQP will come before CUZ or LPB.
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Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:31 pm

Great news! Does anybody knows how is CM doing in GDL and MTY? I know they are thriving in MEX and CUN.
 
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Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:36 pm

Quoting wingedtaurus (Reply 23):
Great news! Does anybody knows how is CM doing in GDL and MTY? I know they are thriving in MEX and CUN.

Loads are like a roller-coaster, but good enough for CM to keep holding to those routes.
Flew GDL-PTY recently and I wish CM had one or two E175 to best cover the route.
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Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:05 pm

Quoting wingedtaurus (Reply 23):
Great news! Does anybody knows how is CM doing in GDL and MTY? I know they are thriving in MEX and CUN.

Its hit and miss....best indications are that MTY is struggling.
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Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:48 pm

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 3):
IQT is not a bad add though.

CM IQT-PTY would boost the traffic to Miami through PTY. The IQT-MIA sector was operated by other Peruvian airlines in the past.




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Quoting jetsetter629 (Reply 19):
Could CM fly LPB/CUZ-GYE-PTY...

It seems like the triangular AA MIA-LPB-VVI-MIA with 757.




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I would elaborate the comprehensive moves on Copa Airlines:
May 29: CM PTY-PEI; 5x to 6x
June 01: CM PTY-UIO; 14x to 21x
June 01: CM PTY-GYE; 14x to 21x
June 10: CM PTY-CUR; 4x; E90 NEW
June 10: CM PTY-ASU; 4x to 7x; 738 all the way
June 10: CM PTY- CUN; 14x to 21x
June 17: CM PTY-PEI; 6x to 7x
June 18: CM PTY-BSB; 4x to 7x (4x 738 + 3x 73G)
June 20: CM PTY-KIN; 2x to 4x
June 21: CM PTY-MAO; 4x to 7x; E90
June 22: CM PTY-CTG; 11x to 18x
June 22: CM PTY-MDE; 28x to 35x
June 22: CM PTY-JFK; 14x; 738 all the way
June 22: CM PTY-ADZ; 5x to 6x
June 22: CM PTY-SJU; 14x to 21x
June 22: CM PTY-SCL; 21x to 28x till August 23
June 23: CM PTY-MIA; 28x to 33x till August 28
June 23: CM PTY-REC; 4x 73G NEW
June 24: CM PTY-LIR; 2x; E90 NEW
June 27: CM PTY-LAS 5x NEW
July 01: CM PTY-LIM; 28x to 35x
July 14: CM PTY-IQT; 2x weekly; E90 NEW

Source: amadeus.net

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RE: Copa Adds Flights To IQT, LIM, MIA, SCL & SJU

Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:02 pm

What will happen to those planes and/or frequencies once the seasonal increases to SCL and MIA scale back?
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Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:43 am

it's very clear that CM is doing good use of their E90 to open new markets  
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Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:14 pm

Quoting avi8 (Reply 27):
What will happen to those planes and/or frequencies once the seasonal increases to SCL and MIA scale back?

I don't believe the frequency increase to SCL and MIA are seasonal.
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Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:24 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 29):
I don't believe the frequency increase to SCL and MIA are seasonal.

It's only the first step and it would highly depend on the demand of passengers.
For example, CM PTY-LAS has not started yet and it surprisingly upgraded their frequencies from 4x to 5x weekly and effective from June 27th.

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Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:23 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 30):
For example, CM PTY-LAS has not started yet and it surprisingly upgraded their frequencies from 4x to 5x weekly and effective from June 27th.

Good move, next CM good move re: LAS should be to re-schedule the LAS departure time much earlier.
  
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