RAGAZZO777
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Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:44 pm

The largest Bolivian international airline is ceasing operations as of today (March 31, 2012). The airline's official website is down and its ticket offices have been closed down.


http://www.abc.es/20120331/economia/...cese-operaciones-201203311621.html (in Spanish)
http://expreso.info/es/noticias/tran...a_operaciones_al_entrar_en_quiebra (in Spanish)
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:23 pm

Argh... not another one!   My best wishes to the employees and the stranded passengers!
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:33 pm

Sad news. I thought AeroSur would've thrived with the demise of LAB.

Would LAN or TACA be interested in setting up shop in Bolivia?

[Edited 2012-03-31 13:36:15]
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:43 pm

Strangely coincides with the return of the 744 to VS.
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:44 pm

This is one small Latin airline which I hoped would thrive. I loved the " Super Torisimo" and " El Sharko". What happened ?
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:06 pm

This is also historic as Aerosur had the last two operational B727's from the US. One former AA and one former UA that they were flying to the the end. As far as I can track these were the last two operational B727's as far as were continually operated in Passenger Service here in the US by Aerosur.

[Edited 2012-03-31 14:17:07]
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:12 pm

Isn't this what the borderline-communist Bolivian government wants? Now state-owned BoA can takeover the long-haul flying to Miami, Madrid and Washington.
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:15 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
Isn't this what the borderline-communist Bolivian government wants? Now state-owned BoA can takeover the long-haul flying to Miami, Madrid and Washington.

Thats just what Latin America needs, a minature AR run for the benefit of the "workers".
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:25 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 1):
My best wishes to the employees

They will be absored by BoA. They have rather ambitious growth plans for the future.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
Isn't this what the borderline-communist Bolivian government wants? Now state-owned BoA can takeover the long-haul flying to Miami, Madrid and Washington.

With plans to open up New York and Paris apparently.

It's a real shame though. I would expect the quality of BoA to be below that of AeroSur (not that I have any evidence) and their livery is drab too. Unless they buy IL96s or A380s to start the long haul, this is a sad day in aviation.
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:31 pm

Sad to see yet another carrier to fold.

The livery on their 747-400 was quite nice.
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:51 pm

Well, from what I gathered TAM Bolivia and BoA had artificially low prices so there was no way for AeroSur to compete. Combine that with their awesome but from an operational point of view suboptimal fleet and the writing was on the wall.

Very sad though, as they seemed to love who they were and what they were doing.
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:08 pm

so sad. I've flown my only 727 flight on them, it was CP-2462. It was a very nice carrier, good service and amazing fleet, operating in a very harsh environment. really, so sad

Does anyone know where the fleet will go? scrapyard? BoA?

[Edited 2012-03-31 15:09:37]
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:31 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 1):
My best wishes to the employees and the stranded passengers!

Same here. Madrid Airport's Terminal 1 must have been a mess today with all those stranded passengers who were due to fly to Bolivia today.

What's worse, though, is that now Bolivia doesn't have any direct air link with Europe anymore, as AeroSur was the only airline flying between Spain and Bolivia. And I seriously doubt that IB will launch flights to Bolivia given their own problems.

Washington DC and Cuzco, among other cities, have also lost their direct air links to Bolivia.

Quoting TR1 (Reply 2):
Would LAN or TACA be interested in setting up shop in Bolivia?

Not as long as Evo Morales remains the President of the Plurinational State of Bolivia.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
Isn't this what the borderline-communist Bolivian government wants?

Yes. As a matter of fact, President Morales publicly showed his dislike for the airline all these years.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
Now state-owned BoA can takeover the long-haul flying to Miami, Madrid and Washington.
Quoting something (Reply 8):
With plans to open up New York and Paris apparently.

They can but they don't currently have any suitable aircraft to fly long-haul. Also, BoA's expansion hasn't been that succesful. Most recently, they ceased their operations on the Cochabamba-Lima route after barely 2 months of operation.
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:42 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 4):
What happened ?

Evo Morales and BOA happened.
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:31 pm

Ragazzo,

are you kidding me? Noooo!!! I always wanted to fly AeroSur!  

Plus, I totally loved their livery!!! At least I posses a copy of one of their older in-flight magazines my dad gave me when he flew AeroSur last year. I will put that magazine in a vitrine or something now  Smile

This is a very sad day for Latin American aviation! Best wishes to the pax with tickets and the employees  

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[Edited 2012-03-31 16:32:15]
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:23 am

So all is the fault of the president despite the fact that the airline tries to have a viable business using 727...
The problem with this airline was its businessmodel not a president.

Hopefully it closing down will mean that BoA the Cochabamba run airline modernises and tries to become a successfull entity in itself. Its a staterun enterprise but since both Avianca and Lan has been interested in investing in Ecuador I dont see why they would shun Bolivia. After all, the Bolivian airports are owned by Spanish company Albertis.
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:26 am

Quoting AR385 (Reply 13):

Evo Morales and BOA happened.

Exactly. Evidently AeroSur had been on the chopping block for some time. It is a sad thing to see them disappear.   
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:55 am

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 12):
Same here. Madrid Airport's Terminal 1 must have been a mess today with all those stranded passengers who were due to fly to Bolivia today.

Hmmm.....I wonder how they were re-routed. Either on AA via MIA or TAM, would be my guesses.
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:16 am

Sad to hear of the demise of an airline that had the boldest liveries in the skies in the last decade. Best of luck to all of the affected employees.
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:32 am

Aww, another airline goes. Well wishes to the employees, certainly not a good year thus far for some airlines.
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:08 am

Sharko came into Miami this morning. My first time seeing it. Now I am even more thankful!!!

Aerosur has had another 767 has been parked on the North side of the airport for a few weeks now.

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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:18 am

I knew I should have taken their DC3 sightseeing tour when I had the chance.
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:26 am

Quoting MillwallSean (Reply 15):
So all is the fault of the president despite the fact that the airline tries to have a viable business using 727...

Isn't Bolivia receiving cheap oil from Venezuela in return for Evo's friendship? Anyway, there were few 727s - if any - left in service, so it's not like they didn't notice.

Quoting MillwallSean (Reply 15):
The problem with this airline was its businessmodel not a president.

AeroSur is/was from the media luna.

Quoting MillwallSean (Reply 15):
Its a staterun enterprise but since both Avianca and Lan has been interested in investing in Ecuador I dont see why they would shun Bolivia.

Oh, I can - Bolivia is, unfortunately, not the most stable of countries and still very poor in comparison to its neighbours... the big ones, anyway. So you'd have to be lucky to get a return on your investment and you might even lose it altogether.
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:07 am

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 14):
are you kidding me? Noooo!!! I always wanted to fly AeroSur!

Me too !! It'd have been really cool to take their flight from Cuzco to La Paz !! Oh well..   

Quoting MillwallSean (Reply 15):
The problem with this airline was its businessmodel not a president.

It was definitely a mix of both. For instance, they should have never gone for those 747s, way too big for a small airline.

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 17):
Hmmm.....I wonder how they were re-routed. Either on AA via MIA or TAM, would be my guesses.

I'd say that the majority of pax were re-routed via LIM on IB/LP. Remember that Bolivian citizens, as all Latin Americans, need a regular visa to transit the United States en route to another foreign destination; of course this rule doesn't apply to those who also hold US, Canadian or EU passports.

One thing is for sure: from now on, travelling from Europe to Bolivia will be even harder !
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:24 am

Wow! Some friends of mine just bought tickets for July going GRU-Bolivia-Miami...I hope they didn't lose their money.
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:24 am

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 12):
Madrid Airport's Terminal 1 must have been a mess today with all those stranded passengers who were due to fly to Bolivia today.
Quoting Checo77 (Reply 14):
Best wishes to the pax with tickets

My sympathies are limited. People need to be more aware of the business transactions they make. If you book with an airline and don't have a travel insurance, don't expect to see your money back in case the airline claims insolvency.

Quoting MillwallSean (Reply 15):
The problem with this airline was its businessmodel not a president.

Apparently BoA was propped up with gov't funds to keep their fares below those of AeroSur until AeroSur finally ran out of liquidity. Who knows what else was undertaken to weaken them.

But in all fairness, while I don't exactly sympathize with Morales I do understand why he was elected. Large parts of the Bolivian society live in desolate poverty and most of the country's wealth remains in the same elititst circles with little to nothing trickling down to ''the Bolivians''. There's great unity among ''the Bolivians'', so I can see why an also 'Bolivian' politician who promises to take care of them enjoys such popularity.

Who knows what's going to become of BoA. Maybe they'll be under government control, but under professional administration similar to the many Chinese carriers? So far, we have no indications - if anything the opposite - that BoA will be used as a prestige symbol ffor the leaders of the state. In fact, they're thinking about buying an An148 for government transport. Clearly, prestige isn't much of a priority to them   
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:43 am

Quoting something (Reply 25):
My sympathies are limited. People need to be more aware of the business transactions they make. If you book with an airline and don't have a travel insurance, don't expect to see your money back in case the airline claims insolvency.

Yeah, but most travel insurances DON'T cover airline insolvency/bankruptcy as far as I know. Also, you do realise that AeroSur is/was the ONLY carrier flying between Spain and Bolivia and that for some of the passengers transiting via a third country is just impossible.
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:20 am

Another one bites the dust.

Pity to hear any carrier cease ops.
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:01 am

AeroSur's operation always left a lot to be desired, so while my heart goes out to the employees and travelers affected, I can't say it's much of a loss for the industry.

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 20):
Aerosur has had another 767 has been parked on the North side of the airport for a few weeks now.

That's CP-2521, Sharko's predecessor. She's been parked at MIA for nearly three years now. From what I've heard, the aircraft was repossessed in late 2009 and has been in a state of legal limbo ever since. Before Sharko joined the fleet, AeroSur was flying VVI-PTY-MIA several times a week with a 727.
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:25 am

That's sad to hear. Of all the Bolivian airlines I flew last year they had the nicest crews. All the best to their staff.

I really wonder what will happen to Bolivian aviation in the next years. Granted, BoA and TAM will absorb most of AeroSur's routes and staff, but those airlines are heavily subsidised by the increasingly indebted state.

What is also interesting: Despite the few flights with foreign carriers to Bolivia (like TACA, LAN, AA) there are no airlines offering a business class product in the country anymore.



If you are interested in what is probably the last AeroSur tripreport on A.net:

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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:08 am

Quoting volvair (Reply 29):
What is also interesting: Despite the few flights with foreign carriers to Bolivia (like TACA, LAN, AA) there are no airlines offering a business class product in the country anymore.

In Brazil there's no first or business class either, no matter the airline. The exception are domestic legs of international flights.
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:35 am

oh man, that really is sad news... They had one of the best liveries on their B767s.
Any idea what will happen with the fleet?
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:56 am

Really sad to see this airline go underr   loved their liveries!

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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:01 pm

WOW ..and i just had one of my travelers come home from Asuncion to the US just last week.....close call!!.

Heck, I am still missing Lloyd Aereo Boliviano and now this!
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:44 pm

Quoting volvair (Reply 29):
espite the few flights with foreign carriers to Bolivia (like TACA, LAN, AA) there are no airlines offering a business class product in the country anymore.

Actually LAN doen't... they only flies narrows to Bolivia, so premium economy at best.

Sad news for Bolivia and Aerosur. I was very scared when flying their 727 in 2008 (last time I flew that wonderful ac), it was so old and my window had a crack! and full branded in Mexicana interiors...yet very pleasing flight, fear aside.
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:14 pm

Quoting TR1 (Reply 2):
Would LAN or TACA be interested in setting up shop in Bolivia?


TACA and AeroSur used to operate an interline cooperation between them.




.

Quoting United727 (Reply 5):
This is also historic as Aerosur had the last two operational B727's from the US. One former AA and one former UA that they were flying to the the end.


As far as I know, 5L had an ex-Mexicana's 727 into its own fleet.




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Quoting aacun (Reply 21):
I should have taken their DC3 sightseeing tour when I had the chance.


These flights were launched to Salar de Uyuni and operated by Aerolineas Canedo on behalf of AeroSur.

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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:31 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 35):
As far as I know, 5L had an ex-Mexicana's 727 into its own fleet.

You are very correct, they actually had three of them...When I was in Santa Cruz (via 5L) in September of 2010, they had five of them there and three were flying...One MX, the UA and the AA birds. The AA bird was the last flying B727-200... So I can tell, it's also the oldest and longest flying B727 in original factory passenger configuration.
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:59 pm

Quoting United727 (Reply 36):
So I can tell, it's also the oldest and longest flying B727 in original factory passenger configuration.

No, the Iran Air 727s are from 1974-1975 and they have the typical early 1970s interior with smaller overhead bins and still fly for their original operator. The final 727-200s of Aerosur were built in 1980-1981.
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:03 pm

Sad to hear. This was one of the more interesting airlines from South America.
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:28 pm

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 37):
The final 727-200s of Aerosur were built in 1980-1981.

I was speaking of B727's from the US Legacy carriers...as for Iran Air, wasn't thinking of those, but you probably are correct and they are they oldest and longest serving of the passenger type in the world.
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:30 am

So based on a previous post I am assuming that "Sharko" is sitting in MIA right now? Can anyone confirm this? If it's still there then I forecast a trip to MIA for me in the near future!

I'm sure there is no way to guess this but I'll ask anyways,

How long do you think their aircraft will remain stuck at the out-station airports? I'm guessing weeks.

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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:02 am

Quoting michiganatc (Reply 40):
How long do you think their aircraft will remain stuck at the out-station airports? I'm guessing weeks.

Considering how long CP-2521 has been at MIA, you may even have a few years!  
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:36 am

What a shame, I'm so sad to read this news, shame on YOU EVO Morales as well your government and BoA.

Nice memories thou, I saw and captured Sharko, first time he saw the light:


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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:21 am

Quoting michiganatc (Reply 40):
How long do you think their aircraft will remain stuck at the out-station airports? I'm guessing weeks.

Depends how badly rhe creditors/lessors want them. It could be tomorrow or never.
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:10 pm

I'm attempting to get into contact with a crew member (FO) from 5L and find out whats going on. Word from a Bolivian friend today is that the government down there has not announced Aerosur's formal closure and the Bolivians are still thinking Aerosur may fly again. Doubt it!!!! Anyways also working on finding out about the status of stranded A/C and the status of the former AA and PA/UA 727's.
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:53 pm

Not a big surprise really. I always loved the liveries of their fleet, very colorful and funny. But running ( successfully ) a private airline in a ( political ) environment like Bolivia is almost suicidal. Same for Venezuela. You can have a small airline doing some flights here and there like Aerosur did and Santa Barbara is "still" doing, but at the first glance of growth, the haters of "capitalism" will be ready to take it down ASAP        

Probably in a few months we will see another "black hole style airline", sucking money from the tax payers at an atrocious rate of 1 or 2 million dollars a day, but this one with a Bolivian Flag in the tail.


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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:00 am

Thanks United727! I would love to hear where these aircraft are stranded at.
 
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:17 am

For the curious, I saw "El Sharko" on the F or G pier today around 13.30.
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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:51 pm

Very sad news indeed as I loved their liveries. I was hoping to photograph their Sharko 767 one day in MIA but that will sadly never happen... 

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RE: Bolivia's AeroSur Ceases Operations

Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:58 pm

Quoting United727 (Reply 44):
I'm attempting to get into contact with a crew member (FO) from 5L and find out whats going on. Word from a Bolivian friend today is that the government down there has not announced Aerosur's formal closure and the Bolivians are still thinking Aerosur may fly again. Doubt it!!!! Anyways also working on finding out about the status of stranded A/C and the status of the former AA and PA/UA 727's.

It would be great if you do get in contact with him. Please share if you do! I am hopeful they can get back flying. It is a shame that their government won't help them to do so. Another 727 operator lost, and that sucks! The deliveries are indeed sweet.
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