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Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:51 pm

Boeing puts the finishing touches on the MAX .

8" nose gear extension , providing 12% better fuel econ that current NG

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...12/uk-boeing-idUSLNE83A02S20120412

"The company unveiled several design choices meant to lower weight and wind-resistance for its upcoming 737 MAX. The planemaker said it had decided on an 8-inch nose gear extension to give ground clearance for a larger engine fan."
 
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RE: Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:39 pm

Quoting PhxA340 (Thread starter):
8" nose gear extension , providing 12% better fuel econ that current NG

I saw this coming!!
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RE: Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:42 pm

Quoting PhxA340 (Thread starter):
Boeing puts the finishing touches on the MAX .

They've decided on a nose gear design and a few more details... Hardly the 'finishing touches' the article states.

Here's the FG article:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...-other-details-for-737-max-370602/

Will it give it a nose high attitude?
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RE: Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:49 pm

I think Cessna, Piper, and Beechcraft may take exception to Reuters stating the 737 family is the world's most-sold airplane.
 
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RE: Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:32 am

Quoting francoflier (Reply 2):
Will it give it a nose high attitude?


I seem to recall earlier threads that said basically "not a perceivable" .. just all the boarding ramps must be tweaked for the tilt   
 
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RE: Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:49 am

The finishing touches will be finished when deliveries begin...
 
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RE: Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:55 am

Quoting kanban (Reply 4):
seem to recall earlier threads that said basically "not a perceivable" .. just all the boarding ramps must be tweaked for the tilt

I hope so.

Aesthetically speaking, I thought the 737NGs main appeal was the nose-down attitude compared to the 737-3/4/5 family (the -400 especially looked awkward).

Nose-down just looks, I dunno, sleeker and meaner, especially with the longer fuselage frames (-800 and -900 especially).
 
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RE: Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:59 am

Quoting francoflier (Reply 2):
Will it give it a nose high attitude?

Slightly, but considerably less than the space shuttle during liftoff.
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RE: Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:25 am

Quoting SEA (Reply 5):
The finishing touches will be finished when deliveries begin...

Exactly. Why would Boeing be all done with the modifications 4-5 years in advance? I'd think they'd be tweaking it all the way till the first frame is built. Especially as new technologies emerge.
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RE: Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:31 am

The key is in reading what the article actually said.. "Boeing Co on Wednesday put some finishing touches on a make-over of its popular 737" The missing word "some" clarifies all.
 
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RE: Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:22 pm

Quoting kanban (Reply 4):
just all the boarding ramps must be tweaked for the tilt

  

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RE: Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:28 am

Who do you think would be interested in this aircraft that is not named Southwest?
 
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RE: Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:46 am

Quoting SYfan100 (Reply 11):
Who do you think would be interested in this aircraft that is not named Southwest?

Lion Air and Norwegian have ordered a few hundred between them. AA is on board for 100. A number of other carriers are said to be good for many hundreds more.
 
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RE: Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:49 am

Quoting SYfan100 (Reply 11):
Who do you think would be interested in this aircraft that is not named Southwest?

Norwegian Air Shuttle and Lion Air. And I didn't even have to think too hard to answer that one.
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RE: Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:55 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 12):
Quoting SYfan100 (Reply 11):
Who do you think would be interested in this aircraft that is not named Southwest?

Lion Air and Norwegian have ordered a few hundred between them. AA is on board for 100. A number of other carriers are said to be good for many hundreds more.
Quoting Stitch (Reply 12):
Norwegian Air Shuttle and Lion Air. And I didn't even have to think too hard to answer that one.

The only firm orders to date are from Norwegian (100 MAX 8), Southwest (150 MAX 8) and Lion Air (201 MAX 9). AA has not finalized their order yet.

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 6):
Nose-down just looks, I dunno, sleeker and meaner, especially with the longer fuselage frames (-800 and -900 especially).

I agree. Like the E190 vs the E175.
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RE: Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:02 pm

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 6):
Nose-down just looks, I dunno, sleeker and meaner, especially with the longer fuselage frames (-800 and -900 especially).


I guess the question is whether it will be discernible... or an illusion based on knowing it exists.
 
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RE: Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:06 am

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 6):
Aesthetically speaking, I thought the 737NGs main appeal was the nose-down attitude

I don't think that a serious airline CEO will order an aircraft just for aesthetical reasons.
The question is if these changes can make the aircraft good enough versus the A320neo.
At another thread there is this discussion:

Doubts About The Engine Of The MAX (by rheinwaldner Apr 11 2012 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: Boeing Puts Finishing Touches On 737 MAX

Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:16 am

Quoting PhxA340 (Thread starter):
Boeing puts the finishing touches on the MAX .

Not quite. The design freeze is in 2013 or so. Many (small) changes to be made yet, nodoubt.

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 6):
Aesthetically speaking, I thought the 737NGs main appeal was the nose-down attitude compared to the 737-3/4/5 family (the -400 especially looked awkward).

Nose-down just looks, I dunno, sleeker and meaner, especially with the longer fuselage frames (-800 and -900 especially).

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