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Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:03 am

By the time the DC-9-30s were entering the fleet, where did Delta operate their DC-9s? Around the 68-71 time frame.

I know the first flight (DC-9-15) was Atlanta-Memphis-Kansas City in '65
 
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:47 am

Quoting Jackbr (Thread starter):
I know the first flight (DC-9-15) was Atlanta-Memphis-Kansas City in '65

Perhaps this would be an appropriate last route when the DC-9-50s are retired.

I figure by the this time period they pretty much took over the short-haul flying previously done by CV-440s and other piston-powered aircraft. My father flew on a DC-9 from STL-MDW in 1970 (don't know if it was a -15 or -30 though).
 
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:03 pm

Departed Flights' 79 timetable should be able to help you: http://www.departedflights.com/79intro.html

Just looking at flights into ATL, it seems that about half of DL's destinations see the DC-9: CVG, CMH, IAH, IND, MCI, etc

And, from ATL, if it's not served by DL's DC-9 chances are Eastern or Republic have a DC-9 flying there! It seems that Eastern was willing to put the DC-9 on routes that DL flew the 727 / L1011, just different strategies I guess?
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:32 pm

Quoting TR1 (Reply 1):
I know the first flight (DC-9-15) was Atlanta-Memphis-Kansas City in '65


Perhaps this would be an appropriate last route when the DC-9-50s are retired.

When DL retired their pre-Northwest merger fleet of DC-9s in the early 1990s, the last route was ATL-MEM-DFW.

It would be ironic if DL had TWO last DC-9 flights on ATL-MEM, separated by more than two decades. A testament to this remarkable aircraft - it's almost impossible to retire the DC-9!
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:41 pm

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 3):

Actually the last DC-9-30 flight was on New Year's Day(I think 1992) and you have the direction reversed. it went DFW-MEM-ATL. Later several DC-9s stopped in DFW for fuel on their way to the desert. I worked in Area 5 at DFW (the satellite) and the DFW-MEM flight left from our area. Also going back a lot earlier, the DFW-PHX service initially operated with DC-9s. I can only imagine the takeoff penalties because the DC-9-30 performance deteriorated badly in hot weather.
 
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:47 pm

All of the McDonnell-Douglas aircraft were built like tanks. DC8's are still flying around the world as profitable freighters long after the B707 has been scrapped. The DC-9 and DC-10 are the same. Rugged, well-built airplanes. Although the Achilles heel in the DC-10 (IMHO) were the stupid lavatories! They drove us nuts. But the 10 will fly on for many years as a freighter all over the world. I always felt like riding in a DC-9 was kind of like riding in a 1965 Mustang--an experience not to be forgotten.

One thing about the DC-9--don't stand near the forward entry door while it is being deiced. The door did not seal completely until the aircraft was pressurized and many a flight attendant found themselves showered with de-icing fluid. Not a pleasant experience.
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:52 pm

Quoting swabrian (Reply 4):

Nope, they were still operating in 1992.
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:23 pm

Quoting swabrian (Reply 4):
Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 3):


Actually the last DC-9-30 flight was on New Year's Day(I think 1992) and you have the direction reversed. it went DFW-MEM-ATL.

Thanks for the correction, Brian. I knew I should have looked up your article in Airliners about DL's DC-9 retirement before I responded!
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:08 pm

Lets see if I can remember this correctly.........I started at ORD in '71 and our DC-9s (we still had the baby 9s) went to, in no particular order, LIT, STL, MEM, SDF, LEX, TYS, AVL, BNA, RDU, GSO, CVG, JAN. I'm sure there were a few more, but I can't recall them, right now. This was before the NE merger. Some of those routes were taken over by the 727 after the NE merger.

Interesting about the RDU & GSO routes. To the best of my recollection, the only way to get to those cities, on DL, at that time, was out of ORD. We had one flight that went ORD-RDU-GSO-ORD.


After the NE merger, we had a baby 9 flight that went LIT-STL-ORD-DTW-CLE-BTV-MHT-PWM-BGR....
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:28 pm

Quoting Jackbr (Thread starter):
where did Delta operate their DC-9s? Around the 68-71 time frame.

In that time frame I recall taking Delta DC-9s from DTW to CVG and from CVG to LEX. Also from DTW to CAE. I may have also traveled on them from DTW to CHS.
 
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Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:36 pm

I remember seeing lots of them in the early 70's at MSY. MSY had a sizeable DL operation at the time. In the mid 70's you could see a couple each of the DC9s, 727s, DC8s and a Tristar mixed in here & there at any given time.. And then there was NA at MSY.... And an open observation deck in between it all - man, those were the days!!
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:06 pm

SHV and MLU had only DC9 traffic from DL in the 71-73 time frame.

Some routes I can remember:

ATL-MGM-GWO-JAN-MLU-SHV-DAL and reverse.

and

ORD-STL-LIT-SHV- either DAL or MSY and reverse.

ATL-ORD and reverse
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:07 pm

Quoting type-rated (Reply 11):
ORD-STL-LIT-SHV

This later became a 727 route when I worked in SHV, '80-'82.
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:21 pm

Quoting Jackbr (Thread starter):
By the time the DC-9-30s were entering the fleet, where did Delta operate their DC-9s? Around the 68-71 time frame.
Quoting YXD172 (Reply 2):
Departed Flights' 79 timetable should be able to help you: http://www.departedflights.com/79int....html

The flight itineraries pages (which shows aircraft types) from the March 1973 DL timetable is a little closer to the timeframe the OP was asking about. Look for "D9S".
http://www.departedflights.com/DL030173p86.html
 
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:52 pm

In the late 1960's I flew Delta several times a year from Columbus to Atlanta, and Columbus up to Detroit. Delta at the time flew the route DTW-CMH-DAY-ATL and back several times a day. I always enjoyed that DAY stop when traveling between CMH-ATL...an extra takeoff and landing!
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:07 am

From DTW you could fly to CVG,IND,MEM,ATL,TOL,CAE,CLE,SDF,TPA,MSY,DAY,FWA,ORD,MCO,CMH and BTV. Pretty much anywhere DL flew from Detroit you could catch a DC-9

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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:30 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 6):
Nope, they were still operating in 1992.

I don't have a copy of my Airliners article here at the office, so I was guessing on the year. I do know that it was Jan 1 for certain, so it must have been 1/1/93 if you are correct.
 
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:22 pm

In the mid 80's Delta flew the DC-9 to several cities out of ORD ... STL, MSP, MSY, CVG, MEM, DFW, SDF, and IAH.
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:20 pm

Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 17):
In the mid 80's Delta flew the DC-9 to several cities out of ORD ... STL, MSP, MSY, CVG, MEM, DFW, SDF, and IAH.

Are you sure about MSP? I thought the first service on DL to MSP, other than with the WA merger (out of SLC) was ATL-MSP. I didn't think there was ever any DL service out of ORD until the NW merger.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 11):
SHV and MLU had only DC9 traffic from DL in the 71-73 time frame.

You can add ESF and Meridian, MS to that list, also.
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Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:07 pm

Quoting mayor (Reply 18):
re you sure about MSP? I thought the first service on DL to MSP, other than with the WA merger (out of SLC) was ATL-MSP. I didn't think there was ever any DL service out of ORD until the NW merger.

Yes, please take a look at this website: http://www.departedflights.com/ORD85p8.html
When the page opens up, scroll down to "Minneapoilis" and you will see the schedule for MSP-ORD (Feb. 1985).
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Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:49 am

Quoting swabrian (Reply 4):
I can only imagine the takeoff penalties because the DC-9-30 performance deteriorated badly in hot weather.

When I was working in DFW, we had a DC-9-30 that departed at 3 p.m. every day with a routing of DFW-LIT-MEM-CVG-GRR. During the summer heat, if you thought you were going to be even 1 minute late, you had to pull a weight/data report before 3. Otherwise, the weather would update on the hour and any temperature increase would put you overweight.

When I started with DL in MEM in 1985, we served the following cities with DC-9s - DFW, IAH, BTR, JAN, SHV, MLU, BHM, MCI, STL, IND, DTW, SDF, ORD, CVG, MIA (Sat only) and LIT. IIRC, most of the ATL service was flown with 727s, one 757 and one DC-8. After the DC-8 was put to pasture, it went to MD-88s with a sole 737-200 added to the ATL mix.
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:58 am

Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 19):
Yes, please take a look at this website: http://www.departedflights.com/ORD85p8.html
When the page opens up, scroll down to "Minneapoilis" and you will see the schedule for MSP-ORD (Feb. 1985).

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Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:29 am

Quoting mayor (Reply 18):
You can add ESF and Meridian, MS to that list, also.

I remember when DL put a DC9 in the Pollock airport just north of ESF. The runways had the same heading just a few miles apart. The runway was only 4900' at the time. I heard that they took all the seats out and then flew it to ESF where they put the seats back in.
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:11 pm

Quoting dtw9 (Reply 15):
From DTW you could fly to CVG,IND,MEM,ATL,TOL,CAE,CLE,SDF,TPA,MSY,DAY,FWA,ORD,MCO,CMH and BTV. Pretty much anywhere DL flew from Detroit you could catch a DC-9

So the DL DC-9's didn't make it west ever huh? Makes sense, I think after RW, RC, NW got rid of them out here, then DL came in to take over. Was DAL or HOU about the furthest the DL DC-9's came out west?
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Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:23 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 23):
So the DL DC-9's didn't make it west ever huh?

In 1970 Delta was basically a North/South airline. If you wanted to go west you went through ATL or DAL. West coast flights were all DC-8. I'm not quite sure how far west the 880's went but I think DAL and HOU were it. I know I flew Detroit to Houston a couple of times on CV880's.
 
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Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:50 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 23):
So the DL DC-9's didn't make it west ever huh? Makes sense, I think after RW, RC, NW got rid of them out here, then DL came in to take over. Was DAL or HOU about the furthest the DL DC-9's came out west?

If you look at DL's route map in the early to mid 70s, you'll see a big hole in the west that didn't start to get filled in until deregulation in the late 70s and early 80s. As I recall, many of the cities out west never got any DC-9 service at all and only got MD-88 service, starting in the late 80s.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 22):
I remember when DL put a DC9 in the Pollock airport just north of ESF. The runways had the same heading just a few miles apart. The runway was only 4900' at the time. I heard that they took all the seats out and then flew it to ESF where they put the seats back in.

IIRC, ESF didn't have runway lighting, so if a flight was late out of ATL, they would divert it to SHV and the pax would board a bus to ESF. At least, that was the situation when I worked at SHV.
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:59 pm

Quoting dtw9 (Reply 24):
In 1970 Delta was basically a North/South airline. If you wanted to go west you went through ATL or DAL. West coast flights were all DC-8. I'm not quite sure how far west the 880's went but I think DAL and HOU were it. I know I flew Detroit to Houston a couple of times on CV880's.

You know, in June 1970 my family flew to South Africa and we flew SA)">DL from LAX to JFK (DAL & ATL stops) on a DC-8 all the way to JFK to catch a SA 707-300 JFK-GIG-JNB, then Air Rhodesia Vickers Viscount to BUQ. I remember that as my start of love for commercial aviation, cockpit visits inflight, special wings from SAA plated in gold (still have em) sigh.
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:10 pm

IIRC, according to the Delta Museum in ATL, the first DC-9-15 flight was to MEM and was a last minute equipment substitution. They just popped it into service without fanfare, much to the delight of the passengers and crew.

NW continued to operate some of the original DL and EA DC-9-10's and -15's for many years. I think the last one flew out around the year 2000-2001. We called it "the trash ten."
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:21 pm

Quoting TheGov (Reply 20):
When I started with DL in MEM in 1985, we served the following cities with DC-9s - DFW, IAH, BTR, JAN, SHV, MLU, BHM, MCI, STL, IND, DTW, SDF, ORD, CVG, MIA (Sat only) and LIT. IIRC, most of the ATL service was flown with 727s, one 757 and one DC-8. After the DC-8 was put to pasture, it went to MD-88s with a sole 737-200 added to the ATL mix.

Thanks for remembering....I remember living in MEM in the mid-80's and always trying to book that afternoon 757 flight to ATL, to see friends there. I thought that plane was great ( still do)!
I believe in the '70's they also flew the D9S on MEM-HSV, must have been a really short flight!
 
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:48 pm

Quoting IAHWorldFlyer (Reply 28):
Thanks for remembering....I remember living in MEM in the mid-80's and always trying to book that afternoon 757 flight to ATL, to see friends there. I thought that plane was great ( still do)!

DL 718, the sole 757 out of MEM, was a 2 p.m. departure to ATL. It originated in LIT and started on June 1, 1985, my first full day in MEM.

Quoting IAHWorldFlyer (Reply 28):
I believe in the '70's they also flew the D9S on MEM-HSV, must have been a really short flight!


Looking at an old timetable and using my memory, the MEM-HSV trips originated in DFW and were flown with 737s and MD-88s through the years. The DC-9 did the HSV-MEM-DFW leg according to the 8/1/89 timetable. The trip was no shorter or longer than the MEM-LIT trips.
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Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:00 am

Quoting dtw9 (Reply 24):
In 1970 Delta was basically a North/South airline. If you wanted to go west you went through ATL or DAL. West coast flights were all DC-8. I'm not quite sure how far west the 880's went but I think DAL and HOU were it. I know I flew Detroit to Houston a couple of times on CV880's.

DL did use the 880 to the west coast in the early '60s when they were first awarded traffic rights to SFO/LAX/SAN/LAS. You can see all their 880 (and DC-8) flights on one of the early pages in their February 1962 timetable available here.
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/dl.htm

Not sure when they started the west coast routes but it was sometime between 1960 and 1962. A 1960 timetable shows some interchange flights with AA and National.
 
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Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:18 am

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 5):
DC8's are still flying around the world as profitable freighters long after the B707 has been scrapped.

I wouldn't tell that to the Air Force. The 707 is the backbone of our aerial refueling fleet. The Air Force bought up most of the 707 fleet for parts and planes to use as tankers. They have been soldiering on since their inception. 707 first flight was seven years before the DC9 and I still see them lined up and ready to go every time I leave MKE.
 
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Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:19 am

The Dc-9 literally opened up DCA to pure jet service back in 1965. DL flew 9's from DCA-ATL and ATL-MIA to name a few of the early DL DC-9 routes.
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Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:38 am

Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 31):
I wouldn't tell that to the Air Force. The 707 is the backbone of our aerial refueling fleet.

No the KC135 is the backbone. Narrower fuselage
 
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Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:18 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 30):
DL did use the 880 to the west coast in the early '60s when they were first awarded traffic rights to SFO/LAX/SAN/LAS. You can see all their 880 (and DC-8) flights on one of the early pages in their February 1962 timetable available here.

Even when I hired on in '71, we were basically an east of the Mississippi centric airline, with a few cities, sprinkled here and there, west of the Mississippi.........DAL, LIT, MKC, IAH, LAX, SAN, SFO, SHV, ESF, MLU, BTR, BPT, STL......maybe PHX.....not sure when we started service in PHX
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Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:15 am

Quoting mayor (Reply 25):
IIRC, ESF didn't have runway lighting, so if a flight was late out of ATL, they would divert it to SHV and the pax would board a bus to ESF. At least, that was the situation when I worked at SHV.

No, ESF always had runway lighting. They didn't have a VASI or anything like that. I practiced some night ILS approaches into ESF as part of my training in 1973. The facilities at ESF were similar to those at MLU.
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RE: Delta's Original DC-9 Routes?

Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:50 am

When were the 880s pulled from the West Coast?
 
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Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:58 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 30):
DL did use the 880 to the west coast in the early '60s when they were first awarded traffic rights to SFO/LAX/SAN/LAS. You can see all their 880 (and DC-8) flights on one of the early pages in their February 1962 timetable available here.
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/dl.htm

Not sure when they started the west coast routes but it was sometime between 1960 and 1962. A 1960 timetable shows some interchange flights with AA and National.

DL began service to California on 11 June 1961. Initial service consisted of:

1x day ATL-LAX, DC-8
1x day ATL-MSY-FTW-LAX, 880
1x day Jacksonville-Orlando-MSY-DAL-SAN, DC-7
1x day ATL-DAL-LAX, DC-8

On 1 July 1961, DL added a 1x day ATL-BHM-Jackson-DAL-LAS DC-7

ATL-MSY-DAL-SFO was added on 13 Oct 1961, 1x day 880.

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Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:28 pm

Quoting type-rated (Reply 35):
No, ESF always had runway lighting. They didn't have a VASI or anything like that. I practiced some night ILS approaches into ESF as part of my training in 1973. The facilities at ESF were similar to those at MLU.

Well, SOMETHING kept them from making night landings, that's for sure.
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Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:43 pm

Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 31):
I wouldn't tell that to the Air Force. The 707 is the backbone of our aerial refueling fleet. The Air Force bought up most of the 707 fleet for parts and planes to use as tankers. They have been soldiering on since their inception. 707 first flight was seven years before the DC9 and I still see them lined up and ready to go every time I leave MKE.

That is technically not correct. While in the US Air Force I worked aboard the RC-135M out of Kadena, Okinawa. Technically, it was called a Boeing 717, with a narrower fuselage than the commercial 707. It was more like the original Dash 80, now on display at Dulles. The only place you saw the name "Boeing" was on what I would call the tire's "hubcaps" and on the cockpit control yokes. I was referring to commercially operated Boeing 707's--there are a couple still flying in Iran but to the best of my knowledge they are the last. I Goggled some of the ship tail numbers that I flew on from 1971-1973 and they are all still in service in other parts of the world. It appears that most, if not all of them have been re-engined. These aircraft were the last C-135's to come off the line and came originally equipped with the fan jet engines and not the old "water wagons." Originally there were delivered to MAC but upon delivery of the C-141 they were made redundant and transferred to SAC.

During the early '80's the Air Force bought a lot of old 707's, primarily for their engines and vertical tail surfaces and these were parked at Davis-Monthan. A few frames are left there for what I would guess is parts support. These were then placed on the KC-135 fleet to decrease fuel burn and make them more efficient. A few commercial 707's were converted for special purpose missions (like Joint Star) and, of course, the original Air Force One jets were 707's.

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Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:35 pm

Quoting mayor (Reply 38):
Well, SOMETHING kept them from making night landings, that's for sure.

Maybe it could have been that there was only a few DL people working at ESF, it was a extremely small station? Or maybe the approaches to ESF didn't meet DL standards at the time? I guess the only people that would know are the ones that worked there at the time.
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Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:34 pm

Quoting type-rated (Reply 40):

Maybe it could have been that there was only a few DL people working at ESF, it was a extremely small station? Or maybe the approaches to ESF didn't meet DL standards at the time? I guess the only people that would know are the ones that worked there at the time.

Maybe the tower closed at a certain time.
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Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:50 pm

Quoting mayor (Reply 41):
Maybe the tower closed at a certain time.

That could be very likely. I know the MLU tower closed at midnight.
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Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:07 am

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SHV and MLU had only DC9 traffic from DL in the 71-73 time frame.

Some routes I can remember:

ATL-MGM-GWO-JAN-MLU-SHV-DAL and reverse.

and

ORD-STL-LIT-SHV- either DAL or MSY and reverse.

ATL-ORD and reverse

Delta never operated DC-9's into Greenwood, MS. They flew them into Meridian, MS. Other smaller cities that saw Delta DC-9 service were EVV, PAH, SPG, BQK, MCN, BPT.
 
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Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:53 am

I thought I remembered that some of the ATL-DFW lines stopped in either GWO or MEI along the way. It was one or the other depending on the departure time. SWO still had DL around 1971 and they had dumped all their prop planes by then. So just what DID DL use to fly into GWO?
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Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:12 pm

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GWO showed on the '56 and '61 route maps, but I don't remember DL still going there when I hired on in '71. Perhaps service was terminated when the CV440s were gone.
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:29 am

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 39):

It appears I am wrong by 4 inches.  
 
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:29 pm

Maybe time is getting my memory again,.......
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Fri May 04, 2012 7:59 pm

Quoting mayor (Reply 45):
GWO showed on the '56 and '61 route maps, but I don't remember DL still going there when I hired on in '71. Perhaps service was terminated when the CV440s were gone.
Quoting mayor (Reply 45):
GWO showed on the '56 and '61 route maps, but I don't remember DL still going there when I hired on in '71. Perhaps service was terminated when the CV440s were gone.

I have a January 1962 OAG and DL is not going in there, only Southern. The Convair 440's lasted until 1970.