Checo77
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Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:15 pm

Hey guys,

today, it´s all over the news here in Peru.

Lima Jorge Chavez International Airport has won the title "Best Airport in South America" by Skytrax Research for the year 2012. It´s the forth year in a row that LIM has won this prestigious award.
Second was Guayaquil´s Jose Joaquin de Olmedo International Airport- GYE. Third scored Santiago´s Arturo Merino Benitez International Airport- SCL.

I haven´t been into SCL recently, but LIM is much better than GYE. GYE is spacious and confortable, but LIM offers much more things to do / eat / shop. Both offer free wi-fi, which I don´t know if its the case of SCL. (GRU does not offer free wi-fi).

CCS after being rebuild was my secret tip for this year, but did not made it into the TOP 3. The absence of EZE and BOG is not surprising, as those airport are not user-friendly at all. Brazilian airports did not score as well. Why is that?

Link (in Spanish): http://elcomercio.pe/economia/140421...-sudamerica-cuarto-ano-consecutivo

(English): http://www.worldairportawards.com/Awards_2012/bestairport_samerica.htm

Regards,

Adam

[Edited 2012-04-20 15:21:23]
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Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:53 pm

no surprise LIMA is really a nice airport! and with great lounches... with good booze and nice snacks!!!

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
CCS after being rebuild was my secret tip for this year, but did not made it into the TOP 3

well this was done already some years ago and yes they improved a little bit but its still a sh**** specially immigration and luggage handling is still a disaster!
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Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:54 pm

Having just flown to LIM last month, I agree it is a great airport. Looks somewhat drab from the outside, but inside very spacious and well laid out. It is run by Lima Air Partners which includes Fraport and Changi Airport as partners. They run a good and efficient operation.
 
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Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:30 am

Yes, LIM is a very nice airport, but arriving/ connecting there during the "rush hours" (aprox 9-10pm/ 9-10am for example) can be quite... chaotic. Or at least that has been my experience every time I went through LIM.

Huge, slow moving lines that suddenly all merge in chaos, everywhere. I really never look forward to connecting there.

It has been my experience that connecting at SCL is usually a more relaxing endeavour. Of course, LAN does not schedule flight banks there as far as I am aware of... And connecting at the likes of (specially) PTY, SJO, SAL etc.... is a breeze (why do I have to clear security again?)

It is probably a situation of "overcome by the sheer amount of people" at LIM, but still...

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Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:46 am

Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 3):
It has been my experience that connecting at SCL is usually a more relaxing endeavour. Of course, LAN does not schedule flight banks there as far as I am aware of...

LAN has flights from domestic destinations with-in Chile, AEP, EZE, GIG, GRU, MVD, etc. arriving into SCL during the evening hours allowing connections onto LAN's SCL-LIM-LAX, SCL-JFK, SCL-MEX, SCL-MIA, SCL-AKL-SYD services and AA's SCL-DFW and SCL-MIA services.
 
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Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:50 am

Lima has been a crossroads for a long time, BN's operation there was amazing with DC-8's all over the continent. Now LAN uses LIM as a decent sized connecting hub for North South flying, and much more IPC comes to mind, and doesn't TA use LIM as a crossroads as well? LIM should have a great facility, and apparently they do, Great win 3 years in a row LIM, wish I'd ever have seen it though.  
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Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:05 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 5):
Now LAN uses LIM as a decent sized connecting hub for North South flying, and much more IPC comes to mind

LIM serves as a primary domestic and international hub for LAN. During the second semester, LAN will increase the frequency of domestic and international flights at LIM. For example,

LIM-AQP increases to 11x daily
LIM-CUZ increases to 20x daily
LIM-GRU increases to 18x weekly
LIM-JFK increases to 11x weekly
LIM-LAX increases to 13x weekly
LIM-MIA increases to 17x weekly
LIM-SFO increases to 6x weekly
LIM-UIO increases to 2x daily
 
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Quoting SCL767 (Reply 4):
LAN has flights from domestic destinations with-in Chile, AEP, EZE, GIG, GRU, MVD, etc. arriving into SCL during the evening hours allowing connections onto LAN's SCL-LIM-LAX, SCL-JFK, SCL-MEX, SCL-MIA, SCL-AKL-SYD services and AA's SCL-DFW and SCL-MIA services.

OK. My point is that I have arrived several times in SCL in the evening hours for a connection and never, ever, have seen lines such as the ones I have experienced at LIM, both connecting and arriving.

I have never been stuck in an aircraft waiting for our turn in the runway with several departures/ arrivals in front of us at SCL. I have at LIM, and because of it I almost missed my next connection at SAL.

PTY during CM banks can get really really congested as well, but in my experience it is much much more smoother than LIM. At least I don´t have to re-clear security (SCL is guilty of that as well)

Re-clearance of security at LIM can be a madhouse... is a guy giving instructions to individual people in the line through a megaphone really necessary?! (I experienced the megaphone in July last year)

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 5):
Lima has been a crossroads for a long time

Yes, with both the LA and TA (specially TA in the case of MVD) operations there, LIM is a very convenient connecting point. Shame the process isn´t as smooth and easy as it could be.

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Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:22 pm

Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 7):
OK. My point is that I have arrived several times in SCL in the evening hours for a connection and never, ever, have seen lines such as the ones I have experienced at LIM, both connecting and arriving.

I have never been stuck in an aircraft waiting for our turn in the runway with several departures/ arrivals in front of us at SCL. I have at LIM, and because of it I almost missed my next connection at SAL.

LAN is implementing new landing and take-off procedures at LIM using Performance-based Navigation (PBN) technologies in order to reduce delays at LIM. LAN is also reprogramming its first bank of connecting flights at LIM; which goes into effect in September. Also, LIM has a new CATIII ILS system installed.

LAN Debuts First Latin America Seamless Performance-based Navigation Route in Green Skies of Peru Project
 
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Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:10 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 5):
doesn't TA use LIM as a crossroads as well?

Yes, LIM is the hub for TACA Peru, especially working for North/Central Americans flying through LIM deeper south into the continent to places like MVD, EZE, SCL, ASU, etc.

Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 7):
Re-clearance of security at LIM can be a madhouse... is a guy giving instructions to individual people in the line through a megaphone really necessary?! (I experienced the megaphone in July last year)

Yes, I have seen that. I actually have never connected in LIM, it was always my final stop. However, I can see HUGE lines in the re-clearance of security. I don´t really think its necessary though. Really weird system. But GYE and UIO has the same system   not sure about BOG though.
I have flown through PTY last year and it was the most crowded airport EVER! The gates are so close to each other, that when our flight started boarding together with the adjacent gates, the lines blended and no one knew where they should stand  

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Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:36 am

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 9):
LIM is the hub for TACA Peru, especially working for North/Central Americans flying through LIM deeper south into the continent to places like MVD, EZE, SCL, ASU, etc

Let me put it this way.

International non-stop connections at LIM on TACA:

[MIA, MEX, SAL, SJO, HAV, SDQ, BOG, CCS, UIO, GYE] - Lima - [LPB, VVI, SCL, EZE, GRU, GIG, POA, BSB**, ASU, MVD]

**Discontinued on June 01st. It will be transferred to TA/LR [SJO-BOG-BSB].

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Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 10):
International non-stop connections at LIM on TACA:

Is TACA reducing flights at LIM?
 
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Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:23 am

Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 7):
At least I don´t have to re-clear security (SCL is guilty of that as well)
Re-clearance of security at LIM can be a madhouse... is a guy giving instructions to individual people in the line through a megaphone really necessary?! (I experienced the megaphone in July last year)
Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 7):
Yes, with both the LA and TA (specially TA in the case of MVD) operations there, LIM is a very convenient connecting point. Shame the process isn´t as smooth and easy as it could be.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. Re-clearing security at any airport is time consuming and it should not be in place, at least not for flights within Latin America.

That said, LIM is indeed a great facility. One should also note that the current terminal is a temporary one. A brand new terminal will begin to be built as soon as the new runway is finished. Of course the new terminal will be built in stages and the first stage should be ready by 2016. Then, the current (temporary) terminal will become a shopping centre.
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Traveled to EZE last month via SCL and found SCL to be a great airport to connect through. EZE by contrast left much to be desired including very long security queues. Sounds like based from the member comments that LIM is investing in improving the airport no doubt as a result of LA's clout and that it's starting to pay off.
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Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:08 pm

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 12):
Of course the new terminal will be built in stages and the first stage should be ready by 2016

Hey Ragazzo! How are you?
I have one question regarding the new terminal at LIM. I have read in the news, that are is a study in place, that a possible tsunami higher than 2 metres might completely destroy the airport. Do you know if the new terminal will be somewhat protected?
You see, LIM airport is in the lowest part of the city, next to the sea. It´s not protected by cliffts as Miraflores, San Isidro, San Miguel is.... I found it really disturbing, because if a tsunami destroys the airport, where is a 9-million city going to have a temporary airport? How are people going to be evacuated, help from abroad brought in?
Hopefully nothing like this will ever happen!!! But this should be a concern, especially in such tecnonically active areas as Peruvian coast sure is.
Hope to see you soon someday!
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Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:20 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 4):
LAN has flights from domestic destinations with-in Chile, AEP, EZE, GIG, GRU, MVD, etc. arriving into SCL during the evening hours allowing connections onto LAN's SCL-LIM-LAX, SCL-JFK, SCL-MEX, SCL-MIA, SCL-AKL-SYD services and AA's SCL-DFW and SCL-MIA services.
Quoting SCL767 (Reply 6):
LIM serves as a primary domestic and international hub for LAN. During the second semester, LAN will increase the frequency of domestic and international flights at LIM. For example,

LIM-AQP increases to 11x daily
LIM-CUZ increases to 20x daily
LIM-GRU increases to 18x weekly
LIM-JFK increases to 11x weekly
LIM-LAX increases to 13x weekly
LIM-MIA increases to 17x weekly
LIM-SFO increases to 6x weekly
LIM-UIO increases to 2x daily

And this is related to the topic in which way??

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 8):
Also, LIM has a new CATIII ILS system installed.

Out of your 4-5 posts in this thread, this is actually the only thread related one. All of the others are just plain doing what we're used to see from you, LAN cheering posts.

Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 3):
Yes, LIM is a very nice airport, but arriving/ connecting there during the "rush hours" (aprox 9-10pm/ 9-10am for example) can be quite... chaotic. Or at least that has been my experience every time I went through LIM.

Huge, slow moving lines that suddenly all merge in chaos, everywhere. I really never look forward to connecting there.

Done only twice, and really the re-security thing takes all the fun out of it.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 1):
The absence of EZE and BOG is not surprising, as those airport are not user-friendly at all

Don't remember much about EZE, but can tell that the absence of BOG is more than well deserved. Hopefully things will change after all the new terminal opens, because today is just a mess and a really nasty thing to deal with.
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Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:56 pm

don't even know how to begin....

i departed out of LIM 6 months back, and despite arriving at the check-in line 3 hours prior to departure, i nearly missed the 60 min cutoff deadline because of how ridiculously slow it was moving (definitely not lack of agents cuz the TACA counters were all staffed) ... one of the most stressful experiences i've have had.

i haven't been to too many airports in south america so I can't comment on whether Lima is good relative to them or not, but in the international scale, it really pales. (i guess when the premier airport - GRU - still looks like Kai Tak, then LIM is "good" in comparison)

LIM's quality is on par with LGA, which isn't a high bar to pass.
 
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Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:24 pm

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 14):
I have one question regarding the new terminal at LIM. I have read in the news, that are is a study in place, that a possible tsunami higher than 2 metres might completely destroy the airport. Do you know if the new terminal will be somewhat protected?

Hey, man ! I'm good, thanks. Well, Lima Airport is elevated 32 m above mean sea level, so I don't think a tsunami, say between 2 and 10 metres, might completely destroy the airport. However, if a large earthquake hits Lima then the airport would likely suffer a lot of damage. To be honest, I'd be worried more about that scenario than a possible tsunami hitting LIM.

See you soon !

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 16):
i departed out of LIM 6 months back, and despite arriving at the check-in line 3 hours prior to departure, i nearly missed the 60 min cutoff deadline because of how ridiculously slow it was moving (definitely not lack of agents cuz the TACA counters were all staffed) ... one of the most stressful experiences i've have had.

I understand, but how is that the airport's fault ?! That's TACA's responsibility.

[Edited 2012-04-23 11:12:35]
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:35 am

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 11):
Is TACA reducing flights at LIM?

TA indeed made some temporary reductions in their flights out of LIM, back in November 2011.
Their current operations since the beginning of the year are experiencing minimal changes.
The comprehensive list of changes on TACA are actually displayed into the XLVII Central American aviation thread; reply 144.

Central American Aviation Thread. Part 47 (by SJOtoLIR Feb 29 2012 in Civil Aviation)



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Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 17):
Lima Airport is elevated 32 m above mean sea level, so I don't think a tsunami, say between 2 and 10 metres, might completely destroy the airport.

I also don't expect that both CIX and TRU could be reached by a tsunami. These stations are placed close to the sea level.




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Quoting Checo77 (Reply 14):
LIM airport is in the lowest part of the city, next to the sea. It´s not protected by cliffts as Miraflores, San Isidro

LIM is exactly placed in Provincia Constitucional del Callao which lies 10 kilometers from Lima downtown.

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:45 am

Just flew through there last week. Nice airport, but re clearing really sucks, nice airport, but a real pain to reclear, major minus points there. Inadequate staff, glad I wasn't at the back of the plane.
 
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Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 18):
LIM is exactly placed in Provincia Constitucional del Callao which lies 10 kilometers from Lima downtown.

I know, I live here   but no one makes the distiction here in Lima. Callao, even though its technically not Lima, is regarded as "part of Lima" by limeňos. Its like anothet neighborhood of Lima. Its similar to the situation in San Jose. I lived there for 6 yrs but in that time, no one ever told "let´s go to the Alajuela airport". Even though the airport is in Alajuela, everbody always said "San Jose airport". The same here in Lima. No one say "Aeropuerto del Callao".

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 17):
I understand, but how is that the airport's fault ?! That's TACA's responsibility.

Exactly! Don´t see the fault of the aiport here. Was the security line huge? Was the immigration line huge? If not, the blame is on Taca.

[Edited 2012-04-23 18:29:34]
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:39 am

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
. It´s the forth year in a row that LIM has won this prestigious award.

Congrats to LIM! LIM is a great airport, particularly comparing it to the old terminal it replaced

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Brazilian airports did not score as well. Why is that?

Because they're mostly hell holes that are bursting at the seams? I'm sure there's a nice one somewhere in Brazil but I haven't seen it.

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 6):
LIM-SFO increases to 6x weekly

Not according to their website--it stays at 3 weekly throughout the Fall, possibly going to 4 in October
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:59 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 21):

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 6):
LIM-SFO increases to 6x weekly

Not according to their website--it stays at 3 weekly throughout the Fall, possibly going to 4 in October

LA is rescheduling the timings of the LIM-SFO route, LA2608 should operate 2x weekly and LA2610 should operate 4x weekly, (LA2609 will depart SFO during the evening on certain days). LIM will also receive more flights from Europe this year, UX will increase frequency on the MAD-LIM route from 5x weekly to a daily service by the end of June, and AF will increase frequency on the CDG-LIM route to 6x weekly during October.
 
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Quoting SCL767 (Reply 22):
LA is rescheduling the timings of the LIM-SFO route, LA2608 should operate 2x weekly and LA2610 should operate 4x weekly, (LA2609 will depart SFO during the evening on certain days).

Still not on lan.com; if anything the 4 midnight SFOLIM arrivals will move to a morning arrival in LIM, but there is no indication that a route that has struggled to get back to 4 weekly departures from 3 is suddenly going to double to 6
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:14 am

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Brazilian airports did not score as well. Why is that?

Sadly, neither GRU nor GIG measure up to international standards. The only part of the entire GIG experience I found acceptable earlier this year was the inside of the minuscule Air France lounge; other than that, it was an unmitigated disaster. GRU isn't much better.

I have serious doubts about whether Brazil's aviation infrastructure will be able to handle the impending World Cup and Olympics traffic...

On the other hand, the commuter airports are much better: While CGH won't win any awards, it's pleasantly functional in the same way that LCY is... and SDU at least has a beautiful approach and classic architecture going for it.
 
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:24 am

I use to fly to LIM since 15 years now, and must say that the development from a rotten provincial landing place to a proper functional airport is impressing every time, even using many of the same buildings.
 
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:59 am

Quoting BCBHokie (Reply 24):
Sadly, neither GRU nor GIG measure up to international standards. The only part of the entire GIG experience I found acceptable earlier this year was the inside of the minuscule Air France lounge; other than that, it was an unmitigated disaster. GRU isn't much better.

I have serious doubts about whether Brazil's aviation infrastructure will be able to handle the impending World Cup and Olympics traffic...

I tend to agree, what is very worrying is that GRU & GIG have been strained facilities for years and there are no signs whatever that any efforts are being made to improve them. Immigration and transit delays will a poor introduction to Brazil.
 
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:56 pm

I flew through LIM last year and was indeed impressed with the airport. But my favourite airport in South America has to go to MVD... Even if it wasn't an airport, I would still love the architecture! Granted, it only sees a fraction of the traffic LIM does, but nice nonetheless.

Other Brazilian airports outside of Rio and Sao Paulo can be nice. I particularly like Recife, and Natal isn't too bad. But GRU and GIG, not great.
 
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:36 pm

Good news and certainly a much deserved distinction to LIM. Not that there's much competition, but they do provide a very solid service and a nice terminal.
 
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Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:34 am

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 22):
AF will increase frequency on the CDG-LIM route to 6x weekly during October.

October 28: AF CDG-LIM reduces their services from 5x to 3x weekly with 772.

Source: amadeus.net


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Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:01 am

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 9):
I have flown through PTY last year and it was the most crowded airport EVER! The gates are so close to each other, that when our flight started boarding together with the adjacent gates, the lines blended and no one knew where they should stand  

Yes, that is true, PTY can get a bit hectic during CM´s banks... however the efficiency of that place amazes me.

I´ve never experienced blending lines, thankfully. I have experiences crowds and nonstop PAs of CM staff announcing diverse departures. Then a conga line of CM 737s and E190 taking off.


The problem with LIM in my opinion can be brought down to two items: the re-clearance of security and the single runway (specially during banks)

Get away with the re-clearance, or a least organize it a bit, and problem gone. And a second runway during these busy banks wouldn´t harm either.

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Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:20 am

Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 30):
I´ve never experienced blending lines, thankfully. I have experiences crowds and nonstop PAs of CM staff announcing diverse departures. Then a conga line of CM 737s and E190 taking off.

One advantage of PTY over LIM is the existence of two runways for their current operations and it would be probably upgraded to three runways in the future.
If I recall correctly, the expansion plan at LIM is considering one more runway that would undoubtedly improve the level of service there.
I praise the geographical situation at LIM placed in the middle of South America. It also has the technical advantage of being situated practically at sea level.

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Sat May 05, 2012 6:31 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 29):
October 28: AF CDG-LIM reduces their services from 5x to 3x weekly with 772.

AF will reinstate CDG-LIM 5x weekly on March 30, 2013. Also, IB will increase frequency on the MAD-LIM route to 11x weekly on October 30, 2012.

Source: amadeus.net


37 weekly flights between LIM and Europe:

AF: CDG-LIM 5x weekly
KL: AMS-LIM daily
LP: LIM-MAD daily
IB: MAD-LIM 11x weekly
UX: MAD-LIM daily
 
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Sat May 05, 2012 9:26 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 32):
IB will increase frequency on the MAD-LIM route to 11x weekly on October 30, 2012.

This statement has relevance given the intended plans of TA of serving the LIM-MAD route, once the 330 will be in service as part of the transfer of assets of AV.

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Sun May 06, 2012 1:55 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 33):

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 32):
IB will increase frequency on the MAD-LIM route to 11x weekly on October 30, 2012.

This statement has relevance given the intended plans of TA of serving the LIM-MAD route, once the 330 will be in service as part of the transfer of assets of AV.

Not really since IB tends to increase frequency on the MAD-LIM route during periods of high demand. For example, in July, IB will operate the MAD-LIM route 10x weekly. LP is the one that will respond when TA launches a hypothetical LIM-MAD service. LP will receive two A-340-313Xs this year...
 
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RE: Best Airport In South America 2012 By Skytrax: Lima!

Sun May 06, 2012 2:42 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 33):
This statement has relevance given the intended plans of TA of serving the LIM-MAD route, once the 330 will be in service as part of the transfer of assets of AV.

Would TACA really launch MAD from LIM ? The LIM-MAD route is well served as it is. IMO, TACA should launch flights to FRA to take advantage of LH's hub up there.

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 34):
LP will receive two A-340-313Xs this year...

I wonder if 2 A343s would allow LP to launch London as well as boosting its presence on the LIM-MAD market.
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RE: Best Airport In South America 2012 By Skytrax: Lima!

Sun May 06, 2012 2:48 am

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 35):
Would TACA really launch MAD from LIM ? The LIM-MAD route is well served as it is. IMO, TACA should launch flights to FRA to take advantage of LH's hub up there.

That is like my dream, FRA-LIM nonstop!!!

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 35):
I wonder if 2 A343s would allow LP to launch London as well as boosting its presence on the LIM-MAD market.

A flight to London would be amazing too!!!
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RE: Best Airport In South America 2012 By Skytrax: Lima!

Sun May 06, 2012 3:01 am

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 35):

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 34):
LP will receive two A-340-313Xs this year...

I wonder if 2 A343s would allow LP to launch London as well as boosting its presence on the LIM-MAD market.

If LAN wanted to, LP could launch LIM-LHR 3x weekly and/or LIM-BCN 3x weekly; plus increase frequency on the LIM-MAD route with 2 A343s...
 
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RE: Best Airport In South America 2012 By Skytrax: Lima!

Sun May 06, 2012 10:46 am

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 34):
LP will receive two A-340-313Xs this year...

So how will LA (Lan Chile) manage to serve SYD and MAD with just 3 remaining 343s? Or is this supposed to happen after LA receives a couple of 787s?
 
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RE: Best Airport In South America 2012 By Skytrax: Lima!

Sun May 06, 2012 10:58 am

Quoting SPIM2EDDN (Reply 38):

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 34):
LP will receive two A-340-313Xs this year...

So how will LA (Lan Chile) manage to serve SYD and MAD with just 3 remaining 343s? Or is this supposed to happen after LA receives a couple of 787s?

LA is the IATA code for LAN Airlines S.A. The SCL-MAD-FRA route will operate daily with the B-787-8 when LAN receives its second Dreamliner during October.
 
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RE: Best Airport In South America 2012 By Skytrax: Lima!

Sun May 06, 2012 1:56 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 39):
The SCL-MAD-FRA route will operate daily with the B-787-8 when LAN receives its second Dreamliner during October.

Is the first 787 still planned for the LA SCL-LIM-LAX route?




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Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 35):
Would TACA really launch MAD from LIM ?

Nothing official yet.
I've only heard about LIM-MAD and LIM-EZE with the 330.

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RE: Best Airport In South America 2012 By Skytrax: Lima!

Sun May 06, 2012 2:02 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 40):
Is the first 787 still planned for the LA SCL-LIM-LAX route?

The first B-787-8 will operate SCL-LIM daily and SCL-EZE daily for crew familiarization purposes. It should be noted that LAN currently operates the SCL-LIM-LAX route 3x weekly with the A343 and 4x weekly with the B763.