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Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:02 pm

Has DL stopped withdrawing DC-9 s for the time being? I have not seen any updates recently. The last I saw were the airplanes wfu in Jan. Originally They were supposed to be gone by Dec. 2012 but I think they have been extended into 2013. Is this true? The last number in service that I know of was 22 frames.
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:29 pm

Another one was retired on Friday: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/D...1/history/20120420/1200Z/KATL/KMZJ

20 are still in service. I do believe the timeline is into 2013. One thing that seems to be a sure thing is that there is no set retirement date for them.
 
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:32 pm

The above DC95 was N677MC

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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:04 pm

17 DC-9-50's will continue on until at least mid-2013
 
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:16 pm

I don't feel like shifting through the 200+ posts that are in the other thread, but is there actually any truth to that rumor of DL taking on FL's 717s? It'd be great to have them continue the T-tail tradition at DL once the DC-9s are finally gone.
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:44 pm

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 4):
truth to that rumor of DL taking on FL's 717s?

A lot of truth. Negotiations continue to take all of Airtran's 717's. Decision before the end of the second quartar

[Edited 2012-04-21 16:45:36]

[Edited 2012-04-21 16:46:03]
 
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:01 am

N401EA visited ROC last week on a sub to ATL . Too bad the weather sucked.
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:38 am

According to ATDB.org, 19 are in service.
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:04 am

Does the US have any law regarding the age of commercial aircraft? It seems flying DC-9 for a country like the US seems quite akward in my opinion. I know maintenance plays a huge role, but still for a company like DL seems odd for such old planes. Well I hope to fly one before they are finally gone.
 
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:55 am

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 4):
It'd be great to have them continue the T-tail tradition at DL once the DC-9s are finally gone.

Don't you think the MD-88s and MD-90s will continue the "T-tail tradition" for years to come?
 
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:51 am

Quoting bogota (Reply 8):
Does the US have any law regarding the age of commercial aircraft? It seems flying DC-9 for a country like the US seems quite akward in my opinion. I know maintenance plays a huge role, but still for a company like DL seems odd for such old planes. Well I hope to fly one before they are finally gone.

There is no law (and no reason for such) dictating the age of an aircraft. The current DC-9-50s are about 30-35 years old. Some of the DC-9-30s that were retired in 2010 were approaching 42-43 years in service. Aircraft with proper maintenance and overall is more important than age. A well maintained 35 year old DC-9 is much better than a poorly maintained 5 year old 737-800.

Quoting akelley728 (Reply 9):
Don't you think the MD-88s and MD-90s will continue the "T-tail tradition" for years to come?

The majority of the MD-88 fleet will be in service for another 6-7+ years. The MD-90s will be in service well into the next decade.
 
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:42 am

N401EA is the oldest in the fleet.
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:08 pm

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 10):
There is no law (and no reason for such) dictating the age of an aircraft. The current DC-9-50s are about 30-35 years old. Some of the DC-9-30s that were retired in 2010 were approaching 42-43 years in service. Aircraft with proper maintenance and overall is more important than age. A well maintained 35 year old DC-9 is much better than a poorly maintained 5 year old 737-800.

As I said before I understand that good maintenance is a big part of it. Yet it still seems odd to see such old planes in and airline such as DL. Anyhow good to see those old planes still flying around.
 
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:52 am

Quoting bogota (Reply 12):
Yet it still seems odd to see such old planes in and airline such as DL.

Why? As recently as a 3 or 4 years ago, airlines like LA (and DL, for that matter) were flying similarly-aged 732s around (and some of the ex-LA 732s remain in service).
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:59 am

Quoting bogota (Reply 8):

The DC-9 is a tank. Fuel burn is bad but still a paid off very, very high cycle limit tank.
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:02 am

Quoting bigbird (Reply 11):
N401EA is the oldest in the fleet.

I have that one as second oldest. N675MC is a hair older.
 
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:11 am

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 14):
The DC-9 is a tank. Fuel burn is bad but still a paid off very, very high cycle limit tank.

   Exactly how I described the -50 to someone else the other day. IMHO pretty much same with Boeing too. Recall all my friends who flew the 727 and said the same, then many switched to the 757. Rocket comes up a lot with the 752. A lot of those DC-9-30's could still fly with $40 oil.
 
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:49 am

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 15):
I have that one as second oldest. N675MC is a hair older.

True.

N675MC - first flight Jun 5, 1975 - delivered Austrian Airlines Aug 25, 1975

N401EA - first flight Aug 1, 1975 - delivered Allegheny Airlines Oct 10, 1975
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:52 am

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 17):
N401EA - first flight Aug 1, 1975 - delivered Allegheny Airlines Oct 10, 1975

I figured it was delivered to Eastern . I just hope DL subs one on here when the weather cooperates.
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:40 pm

It was sold to EA later in life.
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RE: Another DL DC-9-50 Question

Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:10 pm

Quoting United_fan (Reply 18):
I figured it was delivered to Eastern . I just hope DL subs one on here when the weather cooperates.

AL received -50s then traded them to EA for -30s and cash.

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