mikey72
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Prospects Improving For Oneworld?

Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:51 am

IAG acquisition of BD giving much needed boost at LHR.

Inevitable merger of AA and US equals Oneworld balance with UA and DL of Star and Sky.

Latam.

http://aeroblogger.com/2012/01/03/latam-oneworld/

JAL on the up.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nb20120424n2.html

There are still question marks hanging over QF etc

But developments are certainly afoot.......
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RE: Prospects Improving For Oneworld?

Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:47 am

Quoting mikey72 (Thread starter):
IAG acquisition of BD giving much needed boost at LHR.

Even better if they can score TP, then bring in some regional EU airlines like EI, IG.

Quoting mikey72 (Thread starter):
Inevitable merger of AA and US...

Not so inevitable.

Quote:

NBC 5's Scott Gordon reported from New York that the creditors committee is siding with the company and favors ripping up union contracts.
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RE: Prospects Improving For Oneworld?

Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:05 am

JJ should join as well once the merger with LAN is complete.
 
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RE: Prospects Improving For Oneworld?

Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:56 am

Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 2):
JJ should join as well once the merger with LAN is complete.

Hence the OP's mentioning of LATAM.  
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RE: Prospects Improving For Oneworld?

Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:20 am

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 1):

Not so inevitable.

  

And AA going to *A (probably not going to happen, but still) would be a nail in the coffin for oneworld.
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RE: Prospects Improving For Oneworld?

Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:57 am

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 4):
And AA going to *A (probably not going to happen,

The word "probably" doesn't even factor in this situation. The DOJ would rain down with fury before allowing AA and UA to exist in the same alliance.
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RE: Prospects Improving For Oneworld?

Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:23 am

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 5):

The word "probably" doesn't even factor in this situation. The DOJ would rain down with fury before allowing AA and UA to exist in the same alliance.

You can never say never in this industry  

However, I agree - AA + US will most probably be in OW.
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RE: Prospects Improving For Oneworld?

Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:39 am

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 6):
You can never say never in this industry

Only if Ch. 7 is filed would any part of AA end up with UA or DL. The DOJ would have no choice at that point.
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RE: Prospects Improving For Oneworld?

Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:03 pm

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 7):

Only if Ch. 7 is filed would any part of AA end up with UA or DL. The DOJ would have no choice at that point.

I don't know about that... Even with both UA and AA in the same alliance, *A still wouldn't have majority market share.
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RE: Prospects Improving For Oneworld?

Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:17 pm

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 8):
I don't know about that... Even with both UA and AA in the same alliance, *A still wouldn't have majority market share.

Doesn't matter. Look at how fiercely the govt slapped AT&T down for trying to buy TMobile. The DOJ doesn't like excessive market concentration. Having only two national long haul carriers would not be acceptable.
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RE: Prospects Improving For Oneworld?

Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:00 am

Quoting mikey72 (Thread starter):
There are still question marks hanging over QF etc

Care to explain? QF seem to have bottomed out of their nosedive, and are rebounding.

It seems unlikely now that there will be further long haul cuts having "right sized" LHR and cut the random AKL-LAX flight.

They are refurbishing the 747s which will be remaining in the fleet with the same hard product as the A380 fleet.

They're investing in their short-haul product with better domestic lounges, improved catering and AVOD on their new 737s and domestic A330s.

They've resolved their labour issues (albeit dramatically!)

AND THEY ARE PROFITABLE! Kudos to Qantas management, they managed to convince people that the airline was on the brink of collapse in order to fuel a sense of urgency/requirement about their proposed reforms. I agree that changes were necessary, but these were to make the airline more competitive rather than bring it back from the abyss!
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RE: Prospects Improving For Oneworld?

Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:35 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 10):
Care to explain? QF seem to have bottomed out of their nosedive, and are rebounding.

Oh I know...no offence....I only said that because I thought someone might chime in about them otherwise.

I have learnt from bitter experience that it's always best to cover all your bases on here ! Lol
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RE: Prospects Improving For Oneworld?

Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:51 am

Quoting mikey72 (Thread starter):
Inevitable merger of AA and US equals Oneworld balance with UA and DL of Star and Sky.

I don't know if I'd call the merger inevitable, but I agree that if it does happen, it will put Oneworld on the same level as Skyteam and Star Alliance in the U.S. That's assuming that it goes better than the "acquisition" of FL by WN. Don't even get me started on that...

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