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Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:53 am

Thomson have finally announced their new livery and cabins to be introdcued onboard the 787 at the start of 2013.

http://dreamliner.thomson.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/exterior_00176.jpg

Not a major change to the exterior, but an improvement over the current bland livery, the interior looks good though. Although there will be a 9 abreast economy cabin, seat pitch has been confirmed as 34" so should still be a comfortable ride and the Premium Club cabin looks excellent.

http://dreamliner.thomson.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/EC_AFT_relax-COMPRESSED.jpg

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http://dreamliner.thomson.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/EC_IFE_photo.jpg

Full details on the Live The Dreamliner website.
http://dreamliner.thomson.co.uk

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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:02 am

Am loving this!!!!   Can't wait to see them at EMA      
 
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:06 am

Will economy seat width be about 17"?
 
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:07 am

Speaking of which just seen on BBC new Dreamliner currently at MAN as part of its world tour.

Has anyone any idea which routes Thomsons will be putting these on? And from when?
 
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:00 pm

Not disliking he livery, but nto sure if I like it either. Seems a little empty around the middle.
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:00 pm

As someone who has been dissapointed in most new schemes and previously hated the Thomson Livery (after the Britannia brand) I think they have managed to make it look nice. Not sure what it is, Maybe the addition of the dark blue to break the mass of light blue from before. Yeah hmm I like it.. good job.
 
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:09 pm

Very nice! Great to see a fresh livery.
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:10 pm

Very nice, now can Estonian have their livery back please.
 
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:28 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 7):
Very nice, now can Estonian have their livery back please.

Estonian doesnt have red font or wavey lines. There are only so many colours one can use. Dont think it looks anything like Estonian besides using a few different shades of Blue on one plane. Atleast it isnt just a white plane with some awful font like Finnair/JAL.
 
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:59 pm

I don't like the tail. Couldn't they have put a big red T on it. No one knows the TUI brand so that logo is useless.

Quoting Crosswind (Thread starter):
Although there will be a 9 abreast economy cabin, seat pitch has been confirmed as 34"

I'll believe that when I see it. More like 30-31''. A charter airline will want to stuff as many seats as it physically can in that plane.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
 
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:05 pm

Quoting babybus (Reply 9):
I'll believe that when I see it. More like 30-31''. A charter airline will want to stuff as many seats as it physically can in that plane.

Doesn't First Choice have 33" pitch - and they're charter! Part of the same group, no?

Looks great. Nice job, Thompson!
 
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:13 pm

I really like it !

I think the new livery is an improvement on the Britannia / Thomsonfly livery.

The cabin looks lovely and I think they have taken a note from the First Choice aircrafts they inherited.
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:36 pm

Quoting babybus (Reply 9):
I'll believe that when I see it. More like 30-31''. A charter airline will want to stuff as many seats as it physically can in that plane.

babybus,
Their standard pitch for long-haul is already 33" - so if you need to see it get on any of their long haul flights today! The ex-First Choice 767s have a more spacious 2-3-2 layout in economy whereas the ex-Thomsonfly 767s are 2-4-2 but both have the same minimum seat pitch. The 787 product is just an evolution of what they currently offer, they realised years ago that for people to use charter for long haul, the high seating densities they can get away with on short-haul won't work if you want your customers to come back again!

Current interior on the ex-First Choice aircraft (introduced in 2005)


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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:43 pm

Wow. I have to admit I was worried when I heard they were going to change their livery. I hate the current blue and red titles, I just don't think it goes at all, looks cheap and tacky. This look amazing, a vast improvement. And the cabin looks great too. seat pitch will be around 33"/34" as the ex FCA 767's are. That's a major selling point for them. Premium looks great too, Defo worth the extra money.

What is the timeframe for the fleet getting painted? I presume the older 767's will stay as they will be retired gradually anyway. What about the 757 fleet? I know they recently put these in current livery, but if they aren't staying long is it worth paying out again.

I believe they will operate this aircraft on runs to PMI, amongst others, for crew familiarisation. After that SFB and CUN are first. I'd expect HNL et al maybe 2014.

Anyway, well done TOM. Great step in the right direction.
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:45 pm

Looks really good in the cabin, well impressed.

As for the livery....hmmmm!
 
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:48 pm

Quoting babybus (Reply 9):
I don't like the tail. Couldn't they have put a big red T on it. No one knows the TUI brand so that logo is useless.

Quoting Crosswind (Thread starter):Although there will be a 9 abreast economy cabin, seat pitch has been confirmed as 34"

I'll believe that when I see it. More like 30-31''. A charter airline will want to stuff as many seats as it physically can in that plane.


I disagree ... I think The TUI Brand is known alot more since the merger of First Choice & Thomson and definatley more since the re-brand of Britannia Airways.

Thomson Airways Long Haul aircraft have always been the best in UK Charter for leg room etc... As already mentioned, TOM are just expanding on an already great charter product !
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:56 pm

Quoting babybus (Reply 9):

I don't like the tail. Couldn't they have put a big red T on it. No one knows the TUI brand so that logo is useless.

Considering the vast majority of their passengers have subscribed to the Thomson and Tui package, I would have thought it only logical to have the company icon on the tail, no?

Quoting babybus (Reply 9):
I'll believe that when I see it. More like 30-31''. A charter airline will want to stuff as many seats as it physically can in that plane.

     
Quoting Crosswind (Reply 12):
Their standard pitch for long-haul is already 33" - so if you need to see it get on any of their long haul flights today! The ex-First Choice 767s have a more spacious 2-3-2 layout in economy whereas the ex-Thomsonfly 767s are 2-4-2 but both have the same minimum seat pitch.

        

I loathe their shorthaul pitch of 28", but you can not fault them when it comes to long haul, where the pitch is greater than VS, BA etc economy pitch.

You might want to try it Babybus before judging.  

I'm impressed with the new livery; it's an evolution of something I never really liked and which I always thought, from a safety aspect and visibility, wasn't the best.

Now, as I mentioned earlier, if only they could do something about that awful 28" pitch on the 757s; it's the trip nightmares are made of down to SID and BVC on them.  

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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:57 pm

Do like that, Hmmm  
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:00 pm

Quoting blueshamu330s (Reply 16):
Now, as I mentioned earlier, if only they could do something about that awful 28" pitch on the 757s

this won't change on the 757's as they are being phased out and replaced by 737's, this is the main reason of cabin crew redundcies @ TOM because the 737's don't require as many cabin crew in flight.
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:05 pm

Wierd as the 737s were phased out in favour of B757s!
 
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:33 pm

Quoting blueshamu330s (Reply 16):
Now, as I mentioned earlier, if only they could do something about that awful 28" pitch on the 757s; it's the trip nightmares are made of down to SID and BVC on them.


Chris Browne has gone on public record as saying the company would also like to change that, but research has shown that people won't pay the additional cost of a less dense layout on short-haul routes up against Ryanair and easyJet. http://www.travolution.co.uk/article...cutive-interview-chris-browne.html

The airline provides aircraft in configurations up to all-First Class as dictated by market segment, but the short-haul market is so price sensitive they're scared to reduce seating density as it impacts unit cost so significantly. It's a shame that the "long haul" product can't be used on these routes... It's a stretch for the short-haul product - but an intermediate product would add too much complexity to aircraft scheduling.

Air 2000 introduced a short-haul premium product with the A321 fleet that lasted til the end of First Choice Airways, for £29-59 return you got 33" pitch, priority baggage, pre take-off sparkling wine and a free drink infight... even at that low price it was never popular enough to be rolled out over the whole fleet. Now with the APD increases such a product would be completely unviable with the tax implications of a premium short-haul product.

Interestingly when our 757s went over to Canada in the winter to service the First Choice Canadian division flying they were reconfigured from 233 to 215 seats to provide 30/31" pitch for that market, although nominally operated by Skyservice they were under full contract to First Choice Canada - who set the seating capacity and product.

Unfortunately the rock bottom prices in the UK market prevent an increase in space on short-haul, the company would love to be able to charge a premium for a more comfortable environment but the market won't support it (in their opinion) and APD changes have meant a separate "Premium" cabin on short-haul is a non-starter for the sort of prices the market is prepared to pay.


Quoting skipness1E (Reply 19):
Wierd as the 737s were phased out in favour of B757s!

Don't worry, the winglet-equipped 757s are staying in the medium term - and will most likely receive the new livery. The most recent 737-800 deliveries have replaced most of the remaining A320s, plus the last 737-300s and the older non-winglet 737-800s which are just leaving the fleet. The next crop of deliveries will replace the remaining A320/321s and non-winglet 757s. The majority of the 757 fleet are late model, including some of the last ones built, and with a lack of a direct replacement they should be safe for another 5 years at least.

Some nice flying "animated" shots of the new livery here;
http://youtu.be/ZavIdtY9jLE

http://dreamliner.thomson.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/exterior/tui787_exterior2.jpg
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:49 pm

Quite like the new livery.

Shame most of the passengers won't realise the significance of what they're flying on when they're being ferried off on their holidays though!
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:54 pm

The new livery is quite nice but there is too much white in the middle bit IMO.

Quoting Crosswind (Thread starter):
Although there will be a 9 abreast economy cabin, seat pitch has been confirmed as 34" so should still be a comfortable

- Looks nice and pitch is better than the one QR has announced.

Quoting simonriat (Reply 3):
Has anyone any idea which routes Thomsons will be putting these on? And from when?

- I believe there is a thread open on that already.
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:12 pm

I'm sorry, but I hate it. The livery is vile! Why would you have the dark blue "swish" and then suddenly the lighter blue for the tail in a straight line?! I think their current livery is far nicer, but this certainly looks sleeker on the 787. As for the interior, the Premium cabin looks dreadul. Absolutely no wow factor, very uninspiring. Although I really like economy, the colours are perfect and the IFE looks great - although I'm yet to see how good the content is.

Very disappointing Thomson!
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:13 pm

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 22):
but there is too much white in the middle

Not sure, but was there not something with the engines having to painted white, and so perhaps the arty eye- needs that section of fuselage white for balance and composition  
 
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:21 pm

Is there a chance the livery will be on G-TAWJ when its delivered in the next couple of weeks, it seems a bit short sighted not to do this now and repaint it next year
 
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:26 pm

A 767 is currently being painted in it and will be the first
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:35 pm

I see why TUI rebranded the airline - but Britannia was known as the Best UK Charter airline and had such a good reputation with the British public, that sometimes I think they were silly rebranding it ....

But I do like this new livery - the current one is very dull.
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:52 pm

I like the livery minus the tail think they should do something different there maybe it will look better in real life than in the cgi.
 
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:52 pm

I quite like the livery -- a bit more interesting than their current one, and adds a slightly more premium feel to the exterior of the plane.

The interiors looks very nice as well, especially in Y. It's a shame they never continued the Britannica flights to Sydney, otherwise I'd be the first to book a ticket!
 
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:04 pm

I'm not sure if I like the livery but I definitely think it'll grow on me. As for the onboard product; Well Done Thomson!!

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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:06 pm

Quote:

A 767 is currently being painted in it and will be the first

I had noticed there had been quite a few positioning flights, is it an ex FCA or ex TOM one, as AN is in Greensboro at the moment.
 
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:11 pm

awful colours, to say the least....
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:20 pm

Quoting virgincrew (Reply 27):
Britannia was known as the Best UK Charter airline and had such a good reputation with the British public, that sometimes I think they were silly rebranding it ....

I agree, I don't know why they don't bring the Britannia name back with an updated livery. I don't know anyone in the UK (outside of aviation circles) who knows what that Tui logo on the tail stands for. If Corsair can re-brand back to it's roots, why not Thomson?
That said I like the interior, looks good. The updated livery is a slight improvement on the vomit inducing last one, but not by much. Not very original to go for the wavy paint job down the side.
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:26 pm

Quoting babybus (Reply 9):
I'll believe that when I see it. More like 30-31''.

Here you go, as well as my other photos posted by Crosswind;


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The new interior will have 34" seat pitch in economy (244 seats) with 38" up front (47 seats). The currect ex-FCA interiors are very nice (having spent 14 hours on one once!) so I just hope the new ones are just as good. I quite like the looks of the new livery, can't wait to hitch a ride onboard her in May 2013 to Cancun!

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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:49 pm

Great looking livery. Much improved, I must say. The interior looks really modern and fresh.            
 
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:53 pm

Quoting destinations (Reply 31):
Quote:

I had noticed there had been quite a few positioning flights, is it an ex FCA or ex TOM one, as AN is in Greensboro at the moment.


Its an ex TOM one
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:56 pm

Lovely new livery for TOM although isn't it just a variation on the wavy dreamliner scheme on the current Boeing Dreamliner?  
 
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:53 pm

The tail should be dark blue like the aft section of the fuselage. But apart from that, I still think it is a vast improvement on the current TUI Livery which I find bland and tacky....
 
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:30 pm

Quoting babybus (Reply 9):
I don't like the tail. Couldn't they have put a big red T on it. No one knows the TUI brand so that logo is useless.

What??? TUI is one of the most recognised brands within Europe. Thomson alone is the largest charter carrier on this planet. Then there's X3 which is the third largest airline in Germany, all sporting the TUI logo. Then there's 6B, SS, plus others.

I usually agree with your posts but that comment seemed to irk me and I have no connection with TUI in any way, shape or form.

I still want to see a 787 sporting this...

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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:12 pm

The photo of coach was very cleverly done. At first glance it looks like it could be 2-3-2 even though it is 3-3-3.
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:17 pm

One of the better livery redesigns. The curves flow nicely with the Dreamliner's shape. The titles are a bit large.. but at least it's not neo-Eurowhite!
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Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:01 am

I think the colors have a nice balance. The airplane looks good. Will be nice to see the real machine.  
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Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:57 am

WOW, I really like this one. Great job Thomson (I'll always know you as Britannia tho...)
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:33 am

Any chance they bring it to Tunisia, from LGW or MAN ?
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:21 am

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 44):
Any chance they bring it to Tunisia, from LGW or MAN ?

Very unlikely as they don't normally operate wide bodies their. Before entering long haul service in May 2013 (from Gatwick, Manchester and East Midlands to Orlando Sanford and Cancun), it'll be doing short-mid haul runs for crew familiarisation but these are likely to be Egypt and the Canaries.

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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:36 am

I saw the Boeing 787 on 25L @ Manchster yesterday.

It was just parked up on the runway. Does anybody have any ideas why?
 
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:39 am

Quoting gingersnap (Reply 39):
What??? TUI is one of the most recognised brands within Europe

Some of Europe, maybe But you say the name TUI to most people in the UK, and they'd look at you like you're odd. It's not a very well known brand over here, and whilst the logo might register with some people, the name certainly won't!
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Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:40 am

N787BX landing at Gatwick now from Manchester
 
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RE: Thomson Airways 787 New Livery And Cabins

Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:59 am

Quoting LuftyMatt (Reply 47):
Some of Europe, maybe But you say the name TUI to most people in the UK, and they'd look at you like you're odd. It's not a very well known brand over here, and whilst the logo might register with some people, the name certainly won't!

Every single Thomson and First Choice brochure has reference after reference after reference that Tui is the parent company. The logo is everywhere; every page, every information block, every page on the web. You can't miss it.

"TUI Travel PLC is one of the world’s leading leisure travel companies operating in over 180 countries with more than 30 million customers in 31 key source markets. TUI Travel is headquartered in the UK and employs approximately 53,000 people.2

Quoting LuftyMatt (Reply 47):
It's not a very well known brand over here

Here's an insight to their rather impressive presence in the UK:

http://www.tuitravelplc.com/

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