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El And Al? Israeli Airline Mulls Splitting Into Tw

Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:08 pm

El and Al? Israeli airline mulls splitting into two companies

http://www.haaretz.com/business/el-a...itting-into-two-companies-1.426175

In today's English-language Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, this question about El Al has come up. One of the two companies would specialize in premium long-haul flights to destinations such as the U.S. and the Far East (with 777s), while the second would compete against low-cost airlines on European routes (with 737s).
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RE: El And Al? Israeli Airline Mulls Splitting Into Tw

Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:21 pm

That would make sense if they were to do that. But then again they can also do that as one airline, like they do now.
 
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RE: El And Al? Israeli Airline Mulls Splitting Into Tw

Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:41 pm

Problem I see is that LY seems to use everything from the 73S to the 744 on their European routes. Maybe if they want to make Y class a no frills BOB service on shorthauls, they can do that, but I can't see how premium pax would tolerate flying one way on a 747 in F or C and then on the return be stuck in a 737 configured entirely in discount Y.
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RE: El And Al? Israeli Airline Mulls Splitting Into Tw

Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:00 pm

I have noticed the Israel market has gotten ever more competitive in recent years with entry of foreign LCCs (also growth of Arkia and Israir at home) combined with record tourism arrivals.

Additionally, today El Al serves much more than simply a transport for the Israeli/Jewish diaspora especially on European markets where El Al is as much of a viable option for the consumer as any airline when visiting Israel.

I can see the logic of trying to split product offerings maybe, however I do wonder if yet again an airline within and airline concept is bound to failure unless they can hand in hand reduce the cost base of the proposed 737s operation to provide a clear distinct advantage over the legacy El Al unit cost.
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RE: El And Al? Israeli Airline Mulls Splitting Into Tw

Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:34 pm

Quoting blink182 (Reply 2):

Exactly, LY frequently using 762's and 763's for a large amount of European routes, not to mention the 744's and 772's also used a lot.

Where would the 767's come in all of this? I can't see them being refitted with the same product as on 777's ECE and ECF and long-haul flights on them are unbearable.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):

I have noticed the Israel market has gotten ever more competitive in recent years with entry of foreign LCCs (also growth of Arkia and Israir at home) combined with record tourism arrivals.

Not to mention the expanding competition from low-cost carries such as easyJet. They've increased service from LTN and now adding MAN. Also opened routes from BSL and GVA.
 
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RE: El And Al? Israeli Airline Mulls Splitting Into Tw

Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:31 am

Let's not forget that Mr Blumenkranz of Haaretz likes to make big announcements based on...nothing. And if such a concept is actually in discussion, I doubt it will be implemented. Seems doomed to failure.

Btw where is "El Al basic".....?
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