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Will TWA Ever Buy The B 747-400?

Wed Oct 11, 2000 11:40 pm

As it was known by everyone of you, TWA has retired ALL its 747 classics at around 1998. They were replaced by B 767-400 as well as the A 330 I suppose.

As you guys know, TWA is recently trying to epand its network. Can anyone suggest whether they will get the B 747-400 or not?

I personally believe they might coz they need it for some busy routes.

Any suggestions for this?
 
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RE: Will TWA Ever Buy The B 747-400?

Wed Oct 11, 2000 11:50 pm

Ok, United lets get a few things straight.

TWA finnished retirement of its 741s around mid 1997. TWA does not own nor have any 767-400s on order. TWA has changed its A330 order to A318 aircraft.

TWA most likely will not order the 744 anytime soon seeing that most of its high volume transAtlantic routes have been cut due to poor profitability because of the Karabu ticketting scheme. These include, MXP, MAD, BCN, FCO, LIS, ATH, LHR, and FRA (from JFK).

If TWA does order a new long range widebody it will be something smaller, possibly that 767-400 or a 777-200.
 
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RE: Will TWA Ever Buy The B 747-400?

Thu Oct 12, 2000 4:56 am

Well, My opinion is different than that TWAGuyThatNEEDSHelp, I think TWA should get 747-400's for some of the longer Int'l Flights, and possibly High-Density Domestic flights.

Regards,
SKYTEAM
 
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RE: Will TWA Ever Buy The B 747-400?

Thu Oct 12, 2000 4:59 am

Yeah, and fold up in the meantime.
 
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RE: Will TWA Ever Buy The B 747-400?

Thu Oct 12, 2000 5:08 am

I think that TWA would be better suited for a 767-400 on the JFK-CDG and JFK-the middle east routes but the rest of the long distance like say DCA-LAX can be well suited by a 757. Mabe TWA can get back into LHR if the talks between the US and the UK go smoothly I can imagine 767-400s flying LAX-LHR, STL-LHR and JFK-LHR.
"FUIMUS"
 
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RE: Will TWA Ever Buy The B 747-400?

Thu Oct 12, 2000 5:10 am

Oh your just a riot Dan.

Perhaps, you could enlighten us on which longer "Int'l Flights, and possibly High-Density Domestic flights" TW operates that warrants this aircraft. Also, you idiot, the 747's use as a domestic airliner is severly being diminished. Airlines realize now that instead of flying from A to B to C, they can fly smaller planes A to C, hence the proliferation nice types like 753, 763, 764, 772, A335, etc...

Oh and SKYIDIOT, I can play the name game too.

 
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RussNEEDsAlotOfHelp

Thu Oct 12, 2000 5:20 am

RussNEEDsAlotOfHelp, Ok you no good Fucking prep, Longer Int'l Flights are like from STL-TKO, or STL-HKG. Also, Just because not many airlines use the 747 on domestic flights doesent mean you cant do it.

I dont give a shit if you make fun of my name. If I was on the same football field with you, You wouldnt have a prayer

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Russ

Thu Oct 12, 2000 5:24 am

At least we agree on the Gore/Lieberman Campaign, and TWA being a good airline.

SKYDAN
 
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RE: Will TWA Ever Buy The B 747-400?

Thu Oct 12, 2000 5:39 am

747 on domestic routes diminishing?? I think not.

United Airlines has been increasing it's domestic 747 use.. I even took one from O'Hare to Denver and O'Hare - San francisco (Flt 139 or whatever it is has been a consistent 744 departure.. normally leaves around the 915 - 955A time area)

Chicago - San Fran 2 744s and 747 models
Chicago - Denver 1 744
Denver - San Fran 1 744
Chicago - Los Angeles 1 744
Chicago - Dulles 1 744
Honolulu - San Francisco 2 747
Los Angeles - Denver 747

Northwest occasionally plops a 747 into LAX from MSP as well  
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RE: Will TWA Ever Buy The B 747-400?

Thu Oct 12, 2000 5:57 am

Oh please, this is a called "aircraft positioning."
 
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RE: Will TWA Ever Buy The B 747-400?

Thu Oct 12, 2000 10:48 am

Whoa! What a mess here. First of all, as TWANeedsNOhelp states, all of TWA's
747 classics were retired by February
of 1998. The last one was retired in
Feb 1998 after operating TLV-JFK.

TWA does not operate the 767-400 nor does it
operate the A330. It does not have these jets
on order either. The only widebody jets TWA
flies are the 767-200 and the 767-300ER. So
far, it has no orders for widebodies.

TWA could never fill a 747-400. It does not
have the route structure and scale of ops to
do this. This would be the quickest way to a
financial ruin.

TWA will continue to build its fleet around the
narrowbody MD80/717 and A318 family of jets
and the 757 for higher density routes as well
as its growing transcon network. The 767-300
is an excellent plane for TWA. Perhaps in the
future it might consider the 767-400 for its
extra capacity, but nothing beyond that.

ContinentalEWR
 
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RE: Will TWA Ever Buy The B 747-400?

Fri Oct 13, 2000 7:46 am

I highly doubt they ever will! It's not unlikely that they will get 764's or330's!
 
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RE: Will TWA Ever Buy The B 747-400?

Fri Oct 13, 2000 7:48 am

Northwest also occasionly throws a 747 on MSP-SFO-MSP route too