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Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:32 pm

This thread is a continuation of Mexican Aviation X - Guadalupe Reyes (by Aeolus Dec 1 2011 in Civil Aviation) since it has over 200 posts.

Where it left off...

SSJ 100s for Interjet are delayed. The airline was expected to receive 4 frames this year but now will only have one SSJ100 delivered.

Thomson first international airline to fly the 787 to Mexico starting summer 2013 to CUN.

and Eddie asked this about AM schedule change to the AM MEX-IAD flights:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 217):
What do you think of the schedules for MEX-IAD? Mexicana757 told us:

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 133):
Aeromexico will start flights to IAD May 21. AM will fly the route daily with 737s. Flights are bookable on their website. I wish AM good luck on this route. Lets see if the redeye works for them in this new destination. I wonder if having the aircraft RON at IAD would be better and have a departure around 8am.

AM 622 MEX 6:00pm- 11:20pm IAD
AM 623 IAD 1:15am- 5:00am MEX

Now, I just found this site:

http://www.airlinesanddestinations.c...on-dulles-and-san-salvador-in-may/

It seems AM has retimed its flights and there will be no red-eye return flight (which I think is good). I personally think the outbound flight's schedule is good for someone who needs to work the full day in Mexico City before going to the airport, but I can appreciate that many people will hate it and that it will no doubt be annoying to commute from Dulles to Washington proper and points in the metro area at such late hours. What do you guys think?
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:37 am

Quoting Mexicana757 (Thread starter):
AM 622 MEX 6:00pm- 11:20pm IAD
AM 623 IAD 1:15am- 5:00am MEX

Based on the experience of the Central American airlines, the red-eye pattern is apparently doing well for years in selected flights leaving from the United States.
Thus, CM and especially TA are getting very early departures from LAX, IAD, JFK, ORD and so forth.
By the way, thank you for the new thread. I will follow it.  

Regards.
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:33 am

One step forward for SSJ100 program. Mexico's civil aviation authority provided the certificate to operate the aircraft in the country without restrictions:


Mexican authorities approve Superjet

By: David Kaminski-Morrow London 12:19 25 Apr 2012

Mexican authorities have certificated the Sukhoi Superjet 100 ahead of deliveries to local carrier Interjet later this year.The Direccion General de Aeronautica Civil provided a type certificate validation to Sukhoi's civil aircraft division on 16 April, the airframer states.

"This document confirms the compliance of the [Superjet] to the certification requirements of the Mexican aviation authority and allows the delivery and operations of aircraft of such a type in Mexico without limitations," it adds.

Sukhoi Civil Aircraft first vice-president for development and certification Igor Vinogradov says the confirmation is "important" for the delivery to Interjet, which has 15 Superjets on order. The first will arrive at the end of this year.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...pprove-superjet-371108/



Interjet's first plane serial number is 95023.

[Edited 2012-04-26 18:46:13]
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:12 am

Volaris will initiate the [MEX-OAK] 4x weekly seasonal-service on July 01st.
It will be temporary suspended on August 21st and it will be launched again as Y4 OAK-MEX 2x weekly from September 06th to September 25th.

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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:50 am

Starting next week, AM will decrease frequency on the MEX-SCL route from 6x weekly to 5x weekly through September. AM will again reduce frequency on the MEX-SCL route from 5x weekly to 4x weekly through October.

Source: Amadeus.net
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Thu May 03, 2012 7:00 pm

First Embraer 170 was delivered to 5D, last week:

Embraer 170, SU, 170.00046, XA-, AeroMéxico Connect, delivery 26apr12 MCI-MTY, N-reg, ex N826MD

This plane is an early build and was flown by RW previously:


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2 more ex-RW will join 5D fleet soon.
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Thu May 03, 2012 7:21 pm

Quoting Fyano773 (Reply 5):
2 more ex-RW will join 5D fleet soon.

Yes, that's correct. As I understand, the three aircrafts were leased from Republic:

http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/aircraft.php?search=set&airline=REC (Fleetlist Republic with remarks)
http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/newsdetail.php?id=10234
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Tue May 08, 2012 2:22 am

AM MEX-MAD goes temporary from [May 10 till August 30] from 7x to 10x weekly: 7x 777 + 3x 763.
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Thu May 10, 2012 8:14 pm

Aeromexico dropping Fresno?

Per today's OAG thread GDL-FAT flights go to zero from September on.

Was the double Aeromexico and Volaris battle too much ?
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 11, 2012 1:36 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 8):
Aeromexico dropping Fresno?

Per today's OAG thread GDL-FAT flights go to zero from September on.

Was the double Aeromexico and Volaris battle too much ?

There are still flights bookable on AM in Oct, Nov etc. on the route on their website. Frequency is down to Fri/Sat/Sun in fall but still there.

If I remember right it is not the first time the route has shown as cut in the OAG thread then the change is reversed a week or so later.
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 11, 2012 1:53 am

Do any of you think there will be any fall out for Interjet due to the SuperJet crash? Will they reconsider their order?
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 11, 2012 8:52 pm

Seems like MX has found a new owner in MedAtlantica today:
http://www.cnnexpansion.com/negocios...5/11/mexicana-aterriza-nuevo-dueno
(Sorry link in spanish)

However startup dates were not given, the new owners will first restructure debt. Hopefully this time around it'll lead to something more than just more waiting around.
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 11, 2012 9:52 pm

Where can I find Airport information? I live in Aguascalientes, a city that doesn´t usually see much air traffic. Only lately, I have been hearing alot of action, but I don´t know where to look to see what airlines are scheduled during the day. The airport´s website doesn´t seem to be too correct..
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Sat May 12, 2012 6:55 pm

Quoting AR385 (Reply 10):
Do any of you think there will be any fall out for Interjet due to the SuperJet crash? Will they reconsider their order?

Difficult to say, but I think Interjet will keep the order.

Interjet posted in their website a statement about the accident:


Interjet is following up the evolution of this unfortunate event and if so to the progress of the corresponding investigation; Interjet confirms it will continue with its current business plan...

INFORMACIÓN DEL EVENTO OCURRIDO EN INDONESIA SOBRE EL AVIÓN SUPERJET100



In my opinion, there is no other alternative for Interjet left.
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Mon May 14, 2012 5:04 pm

The 748-F is now a regular visitor at MEX:

Cargolux 747-8 Freighter   Cargolux 747-8 Freighter 2


As of mid Apr, Cargolux has been deploying this aircraft to Mexico. I saw that ship taking off and she looked magnificent.
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Tue May 15, 2012 12:08 am

Quoting Fyano773 (Reply 14):

The 748-F is now a regular visitor at MEX:

Hi Fyano773!
I would like to add that the 748 is also a regular visitor to GDL as well (just haven't found a decent time to spot it)
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Tue May 15, 2012 2:45 am

Quoting captaink (Reply 12):
Where can I find Airport information? I live in Aguascalientes, a city that doesn´t usually see much air traffic. Only lately, I have been hearing alot of action, but I don´t know where to look to see what airlines are scheduled during the day.

Check flightstats.com
Let me post the departing flights from Aguascalientes on May 14th:

5D AGU-MEX.........6:09.............ERJ
EV AGU-IAH...........6:45.............ERJ
MQ AGU-DFW........6:55.............ER4
VW AGU-MEX.........8:25............ATR
5D AGU-MEX..........9:30............ERJ
5D AGU-MEX........11:22............ERJ
EV AGU-IAH..........11:45............ERJ
Y4 AGU-TIJ...........13:54.............319
5D AGU-MEX........14:15............ERJ
Y4 AGU-CUN........14:56.............319
MQ AGU-DFW......16:30.............ER4
5D AGU-MEX........17:45.............ERJ
VW AGU-MEX.......19:05.............ATR
5D AGU-MEX.........20:08............ERJ
5D AGU-MEX.........21:02............ERJ


Regards.
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Wed May 16, 2012 1:40 am

Some pictures from MEX:

The Boeing 787:


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A now scrapped ex-Aeronaves de México DC8 wearing it's last titles and scheme, anyone willing to help it's last titles?  
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Magnicharters 737-300 with new c/s:


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1st Boeing 767-300 from Caribbean Airlines painted in MEX in MX MRO on a test and acceptance flight:


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Aeromexico's 737 with Avengers decals, different on right side too:


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And a last picture from Toluca's Aeroexpo 2012, Mickey Mouse for you  :


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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Wed May 16, 2012 7:58 pm

Quoting THEGRINCH (Reply 15):

I would like to add that the 748 is also a regular visitor to GDL as well (just haven't found a decent time to spot it)

Yupp, the MEX-GDL-USA corridor is very busy in terms of air freigth.

In other news, 5D received or is receiving 3 brand new 190s, delivered directly from SJK:


Embraer 190 LR 190.00531 XA-ACJ 5D delivery 15-29apr12 SJK-MAO-PTY-MTY
Embraer 190 LR 190.00538 XA-ACK 5D delivery 11-12may12 SJK-MAO-PTY-MTY
Embraer 190 LR 190.00546 XA-ACM 5D delivery 20-30may12 SJK-MAO-PTY-MTY



With these additions, 5D is growing this subtype to 16 units:


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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 18, 2012 3:25 am

Quoting ghost77 (Reply 17):
1st Boeing 767-300 from Caribbean Airlines painted in MEX in MX MRO on a test and acceptance flight:

I'm not familiarized with some acronyms.
Just out of curiosity, what does "MRO" mean?




.
Aerolineas Argentinas is not flying the CUN-MEX segment anymore:

AR 1946.......EZE 00:15........CUN 06:45.......Mo, Su............340
AR 1947.......CUN 08:45.......EZE 19:50........Mo, Su............340

Regards.
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 18, 2012 4:00 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 19):
Just out of curiosity, what does "MRO" mean?

"Maintenance-Repair-Operations"
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 18, 2012 4:30 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 19):
Aerolineas Argentinas is not flying the CUN-MEX segment anymore:

AR 1946.......EZE 00:15........CUN 06:45.......Mo, Su............340
AR 1947.......CUN 08:45.......EZE 19:50........Mo, Su............340

Regards.

Do they still fly EZE-MEX or did they cancel that route?
Next flights: MEX-LAX AM 738, LAX-PVG DL 77L, SHA-PEK CA 789, PEK-PVG CA A332, PVG-ORD MU 77W, ORD-MEX AM 738
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 18, 2012 1:52 pm

Quoting AR385 (Reply 20):
Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 19):
Just out of curiosity, what does "MRO" mean?

"Maintenance-Repair-Operations"

   -    - Overhaul  

Now, looking at some AI-Flight-plans for my FS9 (what a source, I know...) I noticed Martinair Cargo no longer flying to MEX and Air Cargo Germany flying there. Is that accurate?
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 18, 2012 7:27 pm

What is Air Cargo Germany bringing???

What I've seen is LH Cargo on MD11.

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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 18, 2012 7:55 pm

In today's issue of CAPA (18.05.12), it states the following:

Mexicana will reportedly resume services in Jun-2012 with nine aircraft (economia.terra.com.mx, 17-May-2012). Med Atlantic CEO Cristian Chains reportedly stated that Mexicana will begin operations with an investment of MXN400 million (USD28.9 million) and expects to operate 55 aircraft by Dec-2013
Full article in (economia.terra.com.mx, 17-May-2012)

I find this very interesting as this is a very quick re-start time frame wise. Wonder what aircraft and cities will be served? Some many open questions.
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 18, 2012 8:42 pm

Quoting LH498 (Reply 22):
I noticed Martinair Cargo no longer flying to MEX

MP didn't serve MEX in W11, thus they've been gone a while
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 18, 2012 11:43 pm

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 24):
Mexicana will reportedly resume services in Jun-2012 with nine aircraft (economia.terra.com.mx, 17-May-2012). Med Atlantic CEO Cristian Chains reportedly stated that Mexicana will begin operations with an investment of MXN400 million (USD28.9 million) and expects to operate 55 aircraft by Dec-2013

Blah, blah, blah. I mean, that MX might restart ops this year with 9 aircraft is perhaps somewhat believable (not a lot though). That it will have a fleet of 55 in 18 months... well, that is just a load of bull. Where exactly do they expect to find 46 aircraft or, better yet, how do they expect to fund the lease or acquisition of those birds. I cannot help but think this is quite pathetic.

Btw, the investor's officer is Cristian Cadena haha. Someone translated his last name to English.
Next flights: MEX-LAX AM 738, LAX-PVG DL 77L, SHA-PEK CA 789, PEK-PVG CA A332, PVG-ORD MU 77W, ORD-MEX AM 738
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Sat May 19, 2012 12:02 am

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 24):
Mexicana will reportedly resume services in Jun-2012 with nine aircraft (economia.terra.com.mx, 17-May-2012). Med Atlantic CEO Cristian Chains reportedly stated that Mexicana will begin operations with an investment of MXN400 million (USD28.9 million) and expects to operate 55 aircraft by Dec-2013
Full article in (economia.terra.com.mx, 17-May-2012)

MX is gone. It would be more financially wise to start an airline from scratch rather to relaunch MX.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 26):
Btw, the investor's officer is Cristian Cadena haha. Someone translated his last name to English.

Ha, I hadn't noticed that 
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Sat May 19, 2012 4:49 am

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 21):
Do they still fly EZE-MEX or did they cancel that route?

Absolutely no more flights on the AR CUN-MEX sector for the time being.
That gives more power to AM MEX-EZE 10x weekly with 762.

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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Sun May 20, 2012 1:15 pm

Quoting ghost77 (Reply 23):
What is Air Cargo Germany bringing???

They have a fleet of 4 B744BCFs.

I´ve found the following flights:
6U 3205 HHN-MEX Arr. Wed. at 04:15 LT
6U 3206 MEX-ATL-HHN Dep. at 06:45 LT

6U 3207 HHN-HAJ-MEX Arr. Sun. at 07:15 LT
6U 3208 MEX-DFW-HHN Dep. at 08:45 LT

Flight 3207 must have some connection with Volkswagen, since Wolfsburg is just 1 hour away.
According to the following article (in German): http://www.verkehrsrundschau.de/air-...many-erweitert-flotte-1116841.html the first flight was just this past Sunday. Other interesting subjects are their expansion with 3 additional B747Fs coming from Air Bridge Cargo(Volga-Dnepr had just recently bought 49% of the company) allowing them fly to VCP, BOG and UIO.

Looking forward to some pics of this new guest!
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Sun May 20, 2012 5:24 pm

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 24):
Mexicana will reportedly resume services in Jun-2012

If this were true I would expect to see publicity and articles in the Mexican newspapers. Since MX shut down, Volaris, Interjet, AM and Viva have filled in the void. In the USA we have only seen consolidation and no new national carriers in decades. The MX debt seems to be staggering: workers, airports and providers. Rest in Peace!
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Sun May 20, 2012 8:17 pm

How's Volaris doing out of SJC? Is there any chance we may see them add MEX-SJC several times a week?

Is there any chance we'll see AM enter SJC?
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Mon May 21, 2012 10:09 pm

Quoting laca773 (Reply 31):
How's Volaris doing out of SJC? Is there any chance we may see them add MEX-SJC several times a week?

Is there any chance we'll see AM enter SJC?


I can't vouch for Volaris, but AS has been operating full 4x a week SJC-GDL. Rumor has it AS will go daily SJC-GDL with the winter schedule. However, it would be nice to see the other 3x a week operate SJC-MEX instead!

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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Tue May 22, 2012 2:36 am

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 32):
I can't vouch for Volaris, but AS has been operating full 4x a week SJC-GDL. Rumor has it AS will go daily SJC-GDL with the winter schedule. However, it would be nice to see the other 3x a week operate SJC-MEX instead!

Volaris must be doing well on SJC-GDL. They operate the flight daily at the moment and for the summer they will be adding three additional weekly frequencies to operate the route 10x weekly.
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Thu May 24, 2012 2:04 am

AeroMexico postponed the new CUN-BOG non-stop service from May 10th to June 14th:

AM 718........CUN 01:55..........BOG 05:00...........Tu, Th, Su
AM 719........BOG 07:00..........CUN 10:10...........Tu, Th, Su

Regards.
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 25, 2012 8:03 am

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 32):

I can't vouch for Volaris, but AS has been operating full 4x a week SJC-GDL. Rumor has it AS will go daily SJC-GDL with the winter schedule. However, it would be nice to see the other 3x a week operate SJC-MEX instead!


I'm happy to hear AS is doing well on their SJC-GDL flight! I hope they do add SJC-MEX. There's definitely a market that has gone untapped for quite sometime now. I appreciate the response, Tom. Otherwise, there would be no response about AS in this market, let alone Volaris.
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 25, 2012 1:59 pm

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 24):
Mexicana will reportedly resume services in Jun-2012 with nine aircraft (economia.terra.com.mx, 17-May-2012). Med Atlantic CEO Cristian Chains reportedly stated that Mexicana will begin operations with an investment of MXN400 million (USD28.9 million) and expects to operate 55 aircraft by Dec-2013
Full article in (economia.terra.com.mx, 17-May-2012)

Let me guess. Are they trying to fly MEX to CUN, TIJ, MTY and GDL? That has failure written all over it. IF they get creative and try something radical like a scissor hub in CUN, GDL or even QET they may survive, although in a small scale. They need to find a niche if they're serious about getting back in the air, but I really really doubt they will.
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 25, 2012 3:36 pm

Interjet will be flying to SJO starting June 21, 2012. The airline will fly daily MEX-SJO. Flights are up for sale on Interjet's website. This came up fast for sale. Less than a month before flights begin. Apparently MEX-NYC will be the next to be launched, no date given.

4O 2920 MEX 9:30am- 11:25am SJO (M, T, W, Th, F)
4O 2921 SJO 12:25pm- 4:30pm MEX (M, T, W, Th, F)

4O 2920 MEX 11:40am- 1:35pm SJO (St, Sn)
4O 2921 SJO 2:35pm- 6:40pm MEX (St, Sn)
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 25, 2012 3:47 pm

Quoting laca773 (Reply 31):
Is there any chance we'll see AM enter SJC?

I think if we ever see AM enter SJC it will probably be from GDL, just like they operate the FAT, ONT and SMF flights.
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 25, 2012 5:30 pm

I've found it interesting to (try to) follow Volaris in SAN since we're quickly approaching Y4's first anniversary in our city. And AFAIK, SAN is the last US city that Volaris has added to its route map; they've really slowed their US expansion lately...

Keeping in mind the difficulty in even seeing how frequent the service really is, it seems that MEX-SAN is doing pretty well overall and GDL-SAN, not so much. Both routes seem to vary a lot seasonally, heck, weekly, yet GDL flights drop to only 2x weekly sometimes -- like right now -- while MEX seems mostly to be 5-7x a week. (I even see added service above daily during certain periods between MEX and SAN.)

This seems to be the opposite of a lot of the CA stations (such as FAT, SMF, etc.) where GDL seems to rule. I do know that most of this traffic is vfr but I would also expect to find a fairly good amount of that traffic in a big city like San Diego.

I can't explain it as the proximity of TIJ to San Diego since there is lots of service from both Mexico City and Guadalajara there. But then I don't even know what the makeup of Y4's traffic is in and out of SAN -- mostly vfr, business, tourism? I assume it's primarily Mexico-originiating traffic but since Volaris offers the only service from Lindbergh to the two largest Mexican business centers, I expect they would also carry at least some US-originating vfr and business traffic as well. Could the timing of the flights have anything to do with it?

I'd appreciate anyone else's take on this situation. I know this is where I will find the Mexico-travel experts!

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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri May 25, 2012 6:53 pm

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 37):
Interjet will be flying to SJO starting June 21, 2012.


The fare war has begun in Costa Rica since 4O announced the new service heading to SJO.
Copa Airlines is here proving tickets to MEX via Panama City up to 35% cheaper than regular price.

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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:46 am

Costa Rica is experiencing new flights to Mexico in the forthcoming weeks:


InterJet. Mexico City - San Jose.
4O 2920.......MEX 09:30.......SJO 11:25.......Mo, Tu, We, Th, Fr
4O 2920.......MEX 11:40.......SJO 13:35.......Sa, Su

4O 2921.......SJO 12:25.......MEX 16:30.......Mo, Tu, We, Th, Fr
4O 2921.......SJO 14:35.......MEX 18:40.......Sa, Su
Effective: June 21st




AeroMexico. Cancun - San Jose
AM 690.....CUN 10:55........SJO 12:05..........Daily..........73G
AM 691.....SJO 13:05.........CUN 16:10.........Daily..........73G
Effective: July 07th
This route was briefly operated by Mexicana during their last months of commercial operations.


Regards.
"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
 
whatusaid
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:07 pm

What's with Y4 running a second flight GDL-FAT-GDL on June 30th only.

Are they projecting heavier traffic or is there something in the works? I've heard they've been wanting to add a second flight to GDL on peak days or a second flight during the daylight hours.

Anyone know what's really going on here...
 
Mexicana757
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:55 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 36):

InterJet. Mexico City - San Jose.
4O 2920.......MEX 09:30.......SJO 11:25.......Mo, Tu, We, Th, Fr
4O 2920.......MEX 11:40.......SJO 13:35.......Sa, Su

4O 2921.......SJO 12:25.......MEX 16:30.......Mo, Tu, We, Th, Fr
4O 2921.......SJO 14:35.......MEX 18:40.......Sa, Su
Effective: June 21st

Thanks for re-posting the information that was deleted from my post by the system.  
 
Mexicana757
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:10 pm

Quoting whatusaid (Reply 37):
What's with Y4 running a second flight GDL-FAT-GDL on June 30th only.

Are they projecting heavier traffic or is there something in the works? I've heard they've been wanting to add a second flight to GDL on peak days or a second flight during the daylight hours.

Anyone know what's really going on here...

They have the same thing happening for GDL-MDW. They're running a second flight but with weird departure times on June 22, 23, & 27. Its not the seasonal 942/943 flight that departs MDW at 6am. Hmm testing different times for second flight...   
 
SANFan
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:39 pm

Y4 runs additional sections between SAN and MEX sometimes, generally around holidays (well, US ones that I'm aware of) but not only then. Sometimes I've seen an extra flight on just one day, sometimes the extra capacity seems to occur over a multi-day period. (There have occasionally even been some between SAN and GDL -- a route this does not appear to be doing real well...)

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laca773
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:39 am

Quoting SANFan (Reply 39):
Keeping in mind the difficulty in even seeing how frequent the service really is, it seems that MEX-SAN is doing pretty well overall and GDL-SAN, not so much. Both routes seem to vary a lot seasonally, heck, weekly, yet GDL flights drop to only 2x weekly sometimes -- like right now -- while MEX seems mostly to be 5-7x a week. (I even see added service above daily during certain periods between MEX and SAN.)

Is SAN-GDL not doing so well because of AM flying the route as well or perhaps most who fly to GDL and or transfer there, prefer to cross the border and fly from TIJ because of lower fares, the choice of more flights?
MX flew varying schedules depending on the day as well as up and downgauging a/c all the time depending on demand. It's a good way to control yields and not adding too much capacity on certain days when the demand is not there.
 
SANFan
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:38 pm

Quoting laca773 (Reply 41):
Is SAN-GDL not doing so well because of AM flying the route as well or perhaps most who fly to GDL and or transfer there, prefer to cross the border and fly from TIJ because of lower fares, the choice of more flights?

AM doesn't serve SAN anymore laca' so competition is not the reason Y4 has trouble on the route. TIJ's proximity certainly is a factor but I would have thought there were enough folks bound to or from GDL from the north side of the border to make one flight successful -- and, more importantly, so apparently did Volaris. SAN-MEX seems to be doing ok so that's another part of the puzzle that doesn't make sense to me. Why MEX and not GDL?

(Given the difficulty with finding actual schedules for Y4, I really am not sure what the frequencies of service on either route are. The only "schedule" I know of is at the bottom of the routemap page and every week seems to be very different from the previous and the next one... If anyone knows of the existence of any kind of even semi-reliable timetable for Volaris, I would love to find out about it!)

If Y4 keeps serving the route, even as little as 2x weekly at times, eventually it might pick up. And possibly as long as MEX continues to do well, they might be likely to carry GDL along. If they're good enough at predicting traffic, and don't mind reducing the service to only twice a week for certain periods, and those few flights are full enough, then maybe everything is fine.

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AM744
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:17 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 47):
SAN-MEX seems to be doing ok so that's another part of the puzzle that doesn't make sense to me. Why MEX and not GDL?

I'd think GDL is more VFR than MEX. I can see MEX generating more business traffic (if there's any, I don't really know) and affluent shoppers that wouldn't want to deal with Tijuana and the border crossing.
 
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RE: Mexican Aviation Thread XI

Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:31 pm

Quoting AM744 (Reply 48):
can see MEX generating more business traffic (if there's any, I don't really know)

Qualcomm, Sempra and probably some biotech and I.T.
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