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China Eastern To Purchase 777

Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:57 pm

China Eastern Airlines (MU) is poised to purchase 20 777s from Boeing. As was reported, they cancelled their 787 order recently and China and other Countries have been in a confrontation with the EU regarding the ETS.

No word on the series they ordered or delivery date.

http://news.yahoo.com/china-buys-boe...al-sources-180701706--finance.html

[Edited 2012-04-26 11:58:23]
 
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Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:03 pm

At long last, a real and quantifiable loss to Airbus based on an over zealous EU trying to impose their environmental will on the world!!
 
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Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:16 pm

Quoting N471WN (Reply 1):
At long last, a real and quantifiable loss to Airbus based on an over zealous EU trying to impose their environmental will on the world!!

It says that the 15 A330s are still in limbo , not lost. It also seems implied that Boeing has been in discussions with MU for a while for the 777s so I am not so sure how much of this can be directly related back due to ETS.

Happy to see more 777s plow the sky !
 
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Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:23 pm

Quoting PHXA340 (Reply 2):

One would have to admit that if the 20 B777 frames goes through, the likelihood of them sticking with the 15 A330 frames is slim to none. It also beg to ask if they might be a 777X potential customer   
 
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Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:27 pm

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 3):
One would have to admit that if the 20 B777 frames goes through, the likelihood of them sticking with the 15 A330 frames is slim to none. It also beg to ask if they might be a 777X potential customer

Because no one in their right mind would have A330 and B777 in the same fleet roster?

I believe a number of airlines operate that kind of mix right now.
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Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:28 pm

Quoting PHXA340 (Reply 2):
It says that the 15 A330s are still in limbo , not lost. It also seems implied that Boeing has been in discussions with MU for a while for the 777s so I am not so sure how much of this can be directly related back due to ETS.

Happy to see more 777s plow the sky !

If MU does make this order, does anyone have any idea when they might receive them? I can only imagine they are going to use them to open up more of Australia. I would love to see an MU 777 at LHR! Might we even see some other US destinations?
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Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:30 pm

Quoting starrion (Reply 4):
Because no one in their right mind would have A330 and B777 in the same fleet roster?

I don't think Chinese carriers really have a choice what they get; it's whatever is polically expedient at the moment, and at this moment it's anything-but-Airbus.
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Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:40 pm

Quoting starrion (Reply 4):

Nice observation, but the point I'm making is that China is stalling on the A330 order and going ahead/buying the new B777's. Based on the current tension between China and the EU, compounded by the batch of new data, the likelihood of them sticking with is slim to none. I am aware operators worldwide use the two aircraft hand in hand, but this ship has changed course to Everett WA.   
 
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Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:33 pm

Last I remember, one of the reason MU canceled the 787 order was because of decrease in long-haul growth? I know the other reason was because of the delays.
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Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:51 pm

Quoting PHXA340 (Reply 2):
It says that the 15 A330s are still in limbo , not lost. It also seems implied that Boeing has been in discussions with MU for a while for the 777s so I am not so sure how much of this can be directly related back due to ETS.

  

I stated this in another thread, but these orders are rarely done "overnight." Negotiations take months, if not years. I'm sure MU has been talking to Boeing about a 777 purchase for some time now.

Where China IS using these orders to it's advantage is in the media/press, and I'm sure, through some back-channels. In other words, even though these orders take a while to materialize, China can "fast-track" the 777 order through the necessary governmental hurdles, while letting the A330 order languish in red-tape for a while, which to the outside world would make it appear that they are punishing the EU. Then, once some form of agreement is reached on ETS (whatever and whenever that may be), they can "announce" the A330 order as a sign that "all's forgiven."

Quoting redrooster3 (Reply 8):
Last I remember, one of the reason MU canceled the 787 order was because of decrease in long-haul growth?

You remember correctly. MU stated that domestic and regional growth was far outstripping international growth, and thus the change. This leads me to believe that many of the 777's being discussed will turn out to be 777F's (happy to be proven wrong tho
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:58 am

With China Eastern getting 777-300ER (why would you get -200ER today) another airline is dumping their A340's. Great for the Shanghai to get new 777 for its hub airline.
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:15 am

When it comes to China Inc., always remember that they are master chess players! They play for the long term. They are always 10 steps ahead. Also, MU, like all the other Chinese carriers, is really an extension of the government, even if they are privately owned.

No surprise that Boeing is now the favorite. But next time the U.S. and China get into a spat, Boeing will be punished and Airbus will be rewarded.
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:17 am

Quoting N471WN (Reply 1):
At long last, a real and quantifiable loss to Airbus based on an over zealous EU trying to impose their environmental will on the world!!

Someone has to take a leadership stance on this most important of issues and it's clearly not the US or China. What was it the President of Kiribati, Anote Tong (his nation is facing the spectre of climate-change driven extinction) said on this issue - lead, follow or get out of the way.

It's a shame the world is still not reaching consensus on this issue and politicking with planes and other perilous practices which encourage reprisal.
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:28 am

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 10):

Who said MU was getting the 77W? There was no mention on what series they may have ordered. As posted above, it could be for the 777F as they already operate this aircraft.
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:57 am

Quoting legacyins (Reply 13):
Who said MU was getting the 77W? There was no mention on what series they may have ordered. As posted above, it could be for the 777F as they already operate this aircraft.

They are getting B77W and the 77F for sure, final number haven't been worked out yet. But most likely to be 15 B77W and 5 B77F
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:48 am

Quoting ac033 (Reply 14):

Is this just a guess or has something official been released? If so, can you provide a link please or suggest a IMO.
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:44 am

Quoting starrion (Reply 4):

MU already operated the A332/A333 so I take it the B77Ws would be direct A343/A346 replacements...

Quoting ac033 (Reply 14):

How many B77F in their fleet currently...?

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Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:03 am

Good to see a new customer for the 77W (most likely). I think China Easterns colours will suit the 777!

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Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:24 am

Quoting starrion (Reply 4):
Because no one in their right mind would have A330 and B777 in the same fleet roster?

I believe a number of airlines operate that kind of mix right now.

SQ, EK, AF, DL, KE & LH (if you count 777F) are a few that sprign to mind 

I'm not totally sure that this had much to do with the ETS and more to so with the requirements of the airline and that the T7 is a very good plane.
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:33 am

A little off topic but where do we see China Eastern expanding with this 777 order? Looking at their current destinations I can see a lot of potential markets opening up. I know they have tried some of these in the past but what are your thoughts on the following-

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Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:00 am

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 9):
This leads me to believe that many of the 777's being discussed will turn out to be 777F's (happy to be proven wrong tho

Hi Mike!

I disagree; MU don't have any freighters so I think they will get 77Ws to replace 343s and 346s and possibly for some growth in capacity. Chinese airlines tend to be very conservative with adding new destinations which the 787s would have made possible but the 77W will enable them to increase capacity to destinations where they are well entrenched i.e. LAX, CDG etc.

Looking forward to the order being firmed up and made official.

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Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:39 am

Quoting The777Man (Reply 20):

MU already operate the B777F.

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Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:11 am

Quoting The777Man (Reply 20):
I think they will get 77Ws to replace 343s and 346s

Maybe, but whereas Airbus were going to take 5 A340s in part-exchange for the 15 A330s, will Boeing do the same??

[Edited 2012-04-27 04:11:59]
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:41 am

Quoting legacyins (Reply 13):
Who said MU was getting the 77W? There was no mention on what series they may have ordered. As posted above, it could be for the 777F as they already operate this aircraft.

IF not the 77W then which version ? 777LR's, they could but not the most efficient and MU doesn't need all that range for Europe or the USA. 777-200ER, doubtful. SO the only viable passenger version and the one being ordered in huge numbers is ? The 77W.
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:35 pm

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 6):
I don't think Chinese carriers really have a choice what they get; it's whatever is polically expedient at the moment, and at this moment it's anything-but-Airbus.

Exactly. If the US gets serious about addressing the undervaluation of the yuan, i'm sure the Chinese Government's favor will switch back to Airbus.

Quoting traindoc (Reply 11):

When it comes to China Inc., always remember that they are master chess players! They play for the long term. They are always 10 steps ahead. Also, MU, like all the other Chinese carriers, is really an extension of the government, even if they are privately owned.

No surprise that Boeing is now the favorite. But next time the U.S. and China get into a spat, Boeing will be punished and Airbus will be rewarded.

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Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:29 pm

Quoting EK413 (Reply 21):

MU already operate the B777F.

Well to be precise they're operated by China Cargo Airlines. I'm not sure how different that is, but IIRC some other companies had a stake in it as well.
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:36 pm

Quoting The777Man (Reply 20):
I think they will get 77Ws to replace 343s and 346s

I hope not! I love MU's 346s! Fly them twice a year r/t PVG-JFK.

777 is a fantastic plane, to be sure, but as a passenger, I have always preferred 346s.
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Quoting Newark727 (Reply 26):
Well to be precise they're operated by China Cargo Airlines.

Funny you mentioned course when I carried a search in the database China Eastern Airlines returned 0 photos...

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Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:12 pm

Quoting JerseyFlyer (Reply 22):
Maybe, but whereas Airbus were going to take 5 A340s in part-exchange for the 15 A330s, will Boeing do the same??

They did for SQ to get them to switch from the A340-300 to the 777-200ER (after SQ switched from the MD-11 to the A340-300).
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:06 pm

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MU already operate the B777F.

That's not MU; the 77F is operated by China Cargo Airlines (CK) who has the same livery as MU. CK is partly owned by MU but also in partnership with other investors.

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Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:39 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 23):
SO the only viable passenger version and the one being ordered in huge numbers is ? The 77W.

What about the 773? Could Chinese airlines not benefit from some domestic 777 like Japanese carriers, given their own statement about internal and regional growth?

This is where the A333 would be a good fit too too though, so I wouldn't expect it to be both.
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:10 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 23):

I'm not saying it won't be the 77W. Nothing has been released yet. Their largest aircraft at this time is the A346 which holds ~ 320 in a three class layout. Depending on how they configure the aircraft, a 77W can increase seat capacity by ~ 40 seats.

They could also configure it by getting rid of F and doing a J, Y+, Y layout. The Chinese market is not as strong as some believe. I've seen millionarires in China fly Y.

IMO, they will use these aircraft for the S. Pacific, Europe and maybe 1-2 new US routes.
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:13 pm

Quoting legacyins (Reply 15):

Is this just a guess or has something official been released? If so, can you provide a link please or suggest a IMO.

Its not guessed, its from the Vancouver station manager who arranged the trip down to Everett for the talk. Nothing is going to be released until the order gets approval by the Chinese Government.

Quoting EK413 (Reply 16):
How many B77F in their fleet currently...?

6, all leased from GECAS

Quoting The777Man (Reply 30):

That's not MU; the 77F is operated by China Cargo Airlines (CK) who has the same livery as MU. CK is partly owned by MU but also in partnership with other investors.

MU have majority of the share,and MU is the one that orders plane for CK. And the 77F is ordered by MU to be operated by China Cargo airlines
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:16 pm

Quoting ac033 (Reply 33):

I rather go with a link like this to confirm. Not he said she said.

http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engine...+AtwDailyNews+%28ATW+Daily+News%29
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:18 pm

Quoting legacyins (Reply 13):
Who said MU was getting the 77W? There was no mention on what series they may have ordered. As posted above, it could be for the 777F as they already operate this aircraft.
Quoting legacyins (Reply 15):
Is this just a guess or has something official been released? If so, can you provide a link please or suggest a IMO.

The latest press release confirms the order is for 20 77W.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/boeing...na-eastern-airlines-153700699.html
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:04 pm

Quoting Bthebest (Reply 31):
What about the 773?

That model is no longer on offer by Boeing. Plus I expect the 777-300ER is more efficient (just as the 777-200LR is more efficient than the 777-200ER over most of it's mission profile).
 
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:12 pm

Great to see another 777 order. It is selling just as well now as it did when originally offered 20 years ago which is pretty amazing to me.

This order has a lot to do with politics as do all Chinese government airline orders. They try to balance Airbus and Boeing. They all operate 737s and A320s side by side. China Eastern is an A330/A340 operator so it is interesting that they are going to the 777. However the 777-300ER likely represents growth.
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Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:24 pm

MU does have the route authority for PEK-BOS. While it is probably too much plane, would they use it for this route, should they decide to start it?
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Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:02 am

Quoting JerseyFlyer (Reply 22):
Maybe, but whereas Airbus were going to take 5 A340s in part-exchange for the 15 A330s, will Boeing do the same??

Apparently yes. Boeing will be buying the A340-600s based on a Reuters report that the NY Times picked up:
"The Chinese carrier also said it would sell five Airbus A340-600 aircraft, with an unaudited book value of about 4.47 billion yuan ($708 million), to Boeing. "

Based on this HK bourse filing:
http://www.hkexnews.hk/listedco/list.../sehk/2012/0430/LTN20120430006.pdf
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:34 am

So what does Boeing do with the A340's? Do they have a broker they offload them to for a quick firesale?
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:35 am

Quoting ck8msp (Reply 40):

They will probably do with them what they did with United's A340, lease them our or sell them. I believe The United aircraft went to Air Canada.
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:15 am

Quoting legacyins (Reply 41):
They will probably do with them what they did with United's A340, lease them our or sell them. I believe The United aircraft went to Air Canada.

United never operated or ordered the A340.
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Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:17 am

Confirmed in news currently just aired in HK. 20x Boeing 777-300ERs on order and selling its five A340-600's.
 
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I stand corrected, it was not the A340 but A330. United owned a couple of A330s that were leased to Air Canada. The transaction, which took place during AC's fight with Onex, was intended to help secure AC's future as an independent airline and a Star Alliance member.
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[Edited 2012-04-29 20:54:36]
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:53 am

Quoting United1 (Reply 42):
United never operated or ordered the A340.

I'm pretty sure they owned a few but of course never operated them. I think they got them (maybe from Air Canada?) in compensation for something.
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Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:58 am

MU still have some A300s in operation on domestic routes and some 763s from shanghai airlines in operation on a mixture of domestic and international operations. There is room for 77W on domestics, and on replacing dwindling a300/ 767 fleets.
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Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:09 am

Quoting N471WN (Reply 1):
At long last, a real and quantifiable loss to Airbus based on an over zealous EU trying to impose their environmental will on the world!!

But people get to impose their CO2 on the rest of the world. Kind of like the problem of passive smoking.
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:15 am

Quoting legacyins (Thread starter):
China Eastern Airlines (MU) is poised to purchase 20 777s from Boeing. As was reported, they cancelled their 787 order recently and China and other Countries have been in a confrontation with the EU regarding the ETS.

I wonder if this and other Boeing deals with Chinese airlines will be put on hold because the USA is harboring a Chinese dissident at the embassy in Beijing.
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:23 am

The airbus:boeing order book from china will always be 50:50 - win some, lose some.
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