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Last Flight Out Of GSW-Ft.Worth Texas.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:31 am

What and when was the last flight out of GSW-Amon Carter field in Ft.Worth Texas.When did this airport close completely?
 
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RE: Last Flight Out Of GSW-Ft.Worth Texas.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:54 am

Not sure when the last scheduled 121 flight was- probably some time before 1970, as I recall wandering the terminal (what a gem it was!) around then, and it had no airlines serving then.

The field closed to regular ops when DFW opened, as the airports irreconcilably interfered with each other.

[Edited 2012-04-28 21:54:40]
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RE: Last Flight Out Of GSW-Ft.Worth Texas.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:15 pm

Quoting sccutler (Reply 1):

Not sure when the last scheduled 121 flight was- probably some time before 1970, as I recall wandering the terminal (what a gem it was!) around then, and it had no airlines serving then.

The field closed to regular ops when DFW opened, as the airports irreconcilably interfered with each other

AA was the last airline to serve GSW and they ended service in 1969. I'm not sure of the service though, as the link below does mention that towards the end of scheduled service there, services were some intra-Texas services as well as service to LAX. More than likely the last route there was AA's service to LAX.

http://members.tripod.com/airfields_...man/TX/Airfields_TX_FtWorth_NE.htm

The saga of that airport is an interesting one to say the least and had the original plans back in the 1930s for it to be a joint airport not collapsed due to the City of Dallas dropping out of the project in 1942 over the location of the terminal building (It was to be sited closer to Ft. Worth than Dallas, so they dropped out of the project and got WPA funding to improve DAL.), we probably would have never had the Wright Amendment nor would the current DFW airport been built. Ft. Worth tried to make the airport a regional one to serve both cities, but Dallas' arrogance doomed those attempts over the years doomed the airport. What was really odd was that some airlines had service that originated or terminated at DAL that had a stop at GSW.
 
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RE: Last Flight Out Of GSW-Ft.Worth Texas.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:42 pm

This is an interesting thread. I recently stayed at the DFW Marriott South, built just south of the old terminal site. I remember reading about the old airport many years ago and had a hunch it might have been nearby. Sure enough. From the top level of the hotel you can still see vaguely where the north-south runway ran. Now a field built qiuckly being develeped upon.

The pump house referenced in the website above as the only remaining structure is gone now I'm pretty sure. A road there now.

Went for a run to search out the trees still standing from the old terminal road approach. Not obvious but a slight circle pattern of trees is evident.

Certainly most people who work or live in the area are not aware of its unique history.

[Edited 2012-04-29 07:43:49]
 
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RE: Last Flight Out Of GSW-Ft.Worth Texas.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:41 pm

Runway 18/35 became Amon Carter Blvd, which is of course is the street that AMR's headquarters building is on. I always found that ironic. In the early days of its use as a road, its been said they simply painted a double yellow stripe down the runway and connected it to the surrounding streets. The part of the runway that extended past Hwy 183(which used to cross the runway under a tunnel) is still very visible on your right when traveling westbound. On Google earth: 32°49'54.60" N 97°02'55.33" W

Quoting srbmod (Reply 2):
we probably would have never had the Wright Amendment nor would the current DFW airport been built

You are certainly correct about the city of Dallas' long history of arrogance regarding Carter Field/GSW and later DFW, but I'm not sure the GSW site would have remained in use anyways. The current site at DFW is a far better location, as even when Carter Field was built it was restricted on three sides (railway and Trinity river to the south, and highways to the west and north). In the end, the right decisions were made for the area, major international airport at DFW and limited use facilities at DAL.

I find it strange that there's quite a bit of history at that site, but no markers of any kind or indication of what was there. Probably that's because the sentiment in Fort Worth at the time was that Carter Field was a costly failure, but its still significant enough to deserve a bit of recognition....

Speaking of that history, most people are aware that Delta has had two fatal crashes at DFW, but there was indeed a third at GSW in 1972, when a DC-9, N3305L crashed on a training flight while attempting to take off behind an American DC-10. All 4 on board were sadly killed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_Lines_Flight_9570

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RE: Last Flight Out Of GSW-Ft.Worth Texas.

Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:43 pm

A lot of information at the link below. But it comes with a warning. Make sure you have nothing important to do because you will almost certainly spend a few hours there.

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/TX/Airfields_TX_FtWorth_NE.htm
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RE: Last Flight Out Of GSW-Ft.Worth Texas.

Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:17 am

Quoting AAIL86 (Reply 4):

Your sport on. Looking at googlemap and you can clearly see the north end of the runways, as well as a field where taxiways were, just north of AA HDQ.
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RE: Last Flight Out Of GSW-Ft.Worth Texas.

Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:58 am

Well Ft. Worth still has Meacham.
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RE: Last Flight Out Of GSW-Ft.Worth Texas.

Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:14 am

One of the old entrance signs on the west side of the old airport is still standing across from the C. R. Smith Museum.
 
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RE: Last Flight Out Of GSW-Ft.Worth Texas.

Tue May 01, 2012 12:51 am

Quoting srbmod (Reply 2):
http://members.tripod.com/airfields_...man/TX/Airfields_TX_FtWorth_NE.htm

Thanks for the link. Although I didn't read much, I looked at the pictures   I find it hilarious that they just left part of the runway still there, and that they made the rest of it into city streets  
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RE: Last Flight Out Of GSW-Ft.Worth Texas.

Tue May 01, 2012 1:12 am

Quoting cmf (Reply 5):
A lot of information at the link below. But it comes with a warning. Make sure you have nothing important to do because you will almost certainly spend a few hours there.

Good thing I have a 12 hr night shift ahead of me  
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RE: Last Flight Out Of GSW-Ft.Worth Texas.

Tue May 01, 2012 1:40 am

Come to think of it, I have even flown out of GSW, albeit not in an aircraft operated by a 121 carrier, but rather, in a C205 operated by a charter carrier.
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