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748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:53 pm

Lufthansa's 747-8 services will commence on 01JUN12

on LH416 01JUN FRA-IAD

Fliights are loaded in the GDS - the code for the 747-8 will be 74H.

More details also on:

http://thetravelgazette.com/lufthans...ion-jumbo-at-the-start-342444.html
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:19 pm

Cool. I'm being dense right now. Why couldn't the code be 748, why 74H? 74H is very lame.

748 does not have any IATA code. 74H is BS. LOL.
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:29 pm

74H is what LH is using...same convention as 737-800 which is 73H (Winglets). Not sure why they couldn't use 748
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:33 pm

Well strictly speaking there are two IATA codes for 737-800.

738 is the 737-800 passenger
73H is the 737-800 with winglets.

I have not seen the official IATA codes for 747-8XX yet.
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:09 pm

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 1):

H would be the 8th letter of the alphabet.
 
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:15 pm

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 4):
H would be the 8th letter of the alphabet.

Yes, but still doesn't explain why they couldn't use 748 (where as 73H tells us the difference between winglets and no winglets). Usually, letters are used to reduce confusion (73G instead of 737 for 737-700 for obvious reasons, etc.)

Anyway, it's good that a date has been set. Although I haven't seen any press release, so many this is a placeholder for ordinary flights, and we could see it come earlier with hopefully a big ceremony for inaugeral flight.

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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:45 pm

anyone seen a seatmap yet?
 
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Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:52 pm

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 5):
Yes, but still doesn't explain why they couldn't use 748

Perhaps because the code 748 has previously been used for the HS748? Are any of those still in scheduled service anywhere in the world?
 
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:57 pm

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 7):

Perhaps because the code 748 has previously been used for the HS748? Are any of those still in scheduled service anywhere in the world?

Roughly 30 still in service. Around half of those are in service in Canada.
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Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:33 am

Has anyone seen any cabin pics? I'm interested to see what it'll look like (whether they opt for the sky interior with 787-style multi-colour lighting, what kind of seats they get etc).

Also does the 748i have the electronic window dimmers or standard window shades?
 
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:35 am

I hope to see a lot of photos on here from its arrival in IAD!!

Possibly will fly it to FRA next summer
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:16 am

Quoting AlitaliaDC10 (Thread starter):
Lufthansa's 747-8 services will commence on 01JUN12

on LH416 01JUN FRA-IAD

Fliights are loaded in the GDS - the code for the 747-8 will be 74H.

More details also on:

http://thetravelgazette.com/lufthans...ion-jumbo-at-the-start-342444.html

Is this going to be the true First to Fly commercial flight for the new 748i
In fact Qatar Amiri are the true First to Fly the 748i but not reserved to us Joe Public.

Any news on crew training flights?

I will be in the middle of moving 1 June so I very much doubt I will be able to make that first FRA-IAD flight.


  
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:22 am

Quoting vaus77w (Reply 9):
Has anyone seen any cabin pics? I'm interested to see what it'll look like (whether they opt for the sky interior with 787-style multi-colour lighting, what kind of seats they get etc).

Also does the 748i have the electronic window dimmers or standard window shades?

As far as I know the cabin styling is based on the 787, not sure about the window dimmers but as the 747-8 does not have the 787 style windows I believe it will be standard window shades.
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:15 am

Looking at the Lufthansa website trying to make a mock reservation as of today's date it shows a Airbus 330
also I don't see anything cheap for these fligths to IAD over one month in advance!

Vol LH416
Départ 09:50 sur mar. 1 maiFrancfort, Frankfurt International, Terminal 11
Arrivée 12:45 sur mar. 1 maiWashington, Dulles International, Terminal
Durée 8h55
Compagnie aérienne Lufthansa
Type d'avion Airbus Industrie A330-300

     
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:19 am

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 14):
mock reservation as of today's date it shows a Airbus 330

The B748i flights start on 01JUN, not 01MAY.
 
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:28 am

How can I be so spaced out?

 

Play the game! Build your own airplane! Enter the competition for free tickets to fly on the new LH jumbo!

Win two tickets for a flight in the new jumbo, one of two exclusive, limited edtion chronograph watches, a bath towel or a coffee mug in the 747-8 design.

In the coming weeks we would like to regularly send you new 3D components, from which you can assemble your own virtual 747-8 piece by piece.

http://747-8.lufthansa.com/

Now I will have to see how to be First to Fly the B-748i
flights LH416 and LH419,of June 1 on the cheap(est).



    
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:58 am

Now that's a day brightener....already had LH419 IAD>FRA booked for Sept and the 748 is an upgrade!
 
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:03 pm

Quoting trex8 (Reply 6):
anyone seen a seatmap yet?

F8 C92 Y258

F in the front, C in the upper deck and mid section of main deck and rest is Y class.

Quoting fun2fly (Reply 17):
already had LH419 IAD>FRA booked for Sept and the 748 is an upgrade!

Hope you enjoy it.

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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:14 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 13):
also I don't see anything cheap for these fligths to IAD over one month in advance!

Wow, you're not kidding! A one-way ticket is pricing at 2795 Euros or US$3,676. Making it part of a roundtrip doesn't bring the price down appreciably.

I'd say they're jacking up the price for this special flight but all UA/LH FRA-IAD flights that day are showing at this fare on LH's web site.

So much for being a part of this inaugural...
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:18 pm

Quoting UALFAson (Reply 18):

Where did you check? I just checked a flight on lufthansa.com departing FRA on the 2nd of June with the 748 and picked any random date flying back to IAD on 748i again and it shows me a total of: € 891,48.
The flight FRA-IAD on June 1st is not bookable on 748i, I guess only invited guests and press will be on that?

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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:30 pm

Have we seen interior photos? I am especially interested in seeing the new business seats...I couldn't stand the old "slides"...
 
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:36 pm

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 19):
The flight FRA-IAD on June 1st is not bookable on 748i, I guess only invited guests and press will be on that?


LH416 of June 1 is out and bookable in Y class by all who want to fly on it.

ven. 1 juin 09:50Francfort 12:45Washington, Dulles International LH416 Economy (M)

Informations de vols
Vol LH416
Départ 09:50 sur ven. 1 juinFrancfort, Frankfurt International, Terminal 11
Arrivée 12:45 sur ven. 1 juinWashington, Dulles International, Terminal
Durée 8h55
Compagnie aérienne Lufthansa
Type d'avion 74H

Doing a one-way mock-up reservation in F for LH416 of 1 June does not show any availability.
They probably blocked the F cabin (8 seats up front of the aircraft) for the invited guests and LH VVIPs.

while Business Class is wide open at € 3877 one-way.
09:50Francfort 12:45Washington, Dulles International LH416 8h55

Informations de vols
Vol LH416
Départ 09:50 sur ven. 1 juinFrancfort, Frankfurt International, Terminal 11
Arrivée 12:45 sur ven. 1 juinWashington, Dulles International, Terminal
Durée 8h55
Compagnie aérienne Lufthansa
Type d'avion 74H
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:43 pm

Quoting United787 (Reply 20):
Have we seen interior photos? I am especially interested in seeing the new business seats...I couldn't stand the old "slides"...

There are pictures of the new C class available on the internet already. Even a thread was here about the new C class.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 21):
LH416 of June 1 is out and bookable in Y class by all who want to fly on it.

Right, I missed that one for some reason. Thanks.

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Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:21 pm

Thank you wilco737, found it...

Lufthansa Reveals New Business Class (by QatarA340 Mar 8 2012 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:40 pm

I take that it took off with a bare interior last week. I can't wait to see some pictures of the cabin.

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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:26 pm

...I bet you will see many pics of the 748-7 on Wednesday, after the Roll-In Ceremony took place in FRA.
1500 employees are invited (there was a lucky draw for the tickets). Cams are allowed and the inside could be visited also for a short glimpse (but pics from inside are not welcomed due to the mass of people).
Got a ticket  
I try to take good pics   

Why the ac doesn't have the abbreviation 748?
The plane is not called 748 nor 747-800, it's called 747-8. Under this aspect, if the short cut would be 748, the "inofficial" company wide name soon would be really 748.

Many happy landings to this fantastic aircraft! Looking forward seeing her daily on short final soon!!!
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:34 pm

I get my ticket FRA-IAD LH416 on June 1st, returning on Sunday the 3rd with LH419, in Business Classe using Miles & More ticket. Both flights on 74H.
 
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:14 pm

Great to see it enter service! I wish the 747-8 a safe flying career.  

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Tue May 01, 2012 8:38 am

I got a Ticket as well for the roll in. Taking my cam with me for sure.
Airplane is scheduled to land in FRA at 9:30am local time.

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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Tue May 01, 2012 8:44 am

Do you know the flight N° of the delivery flight today from Everett to Frankfurt please? Would like to follow it...

Thank you.
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Tue May 01, 2012 8:49 am

Flight number is of course DLH 748 
Leaving at 21:00 UTC.

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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Tue May 01, 2012 8:56 am

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 1):
Cool. I'm being dense right now. Why couldn't the code be 748, why 74H? 74H is very lame.

748 does not have any IATA code. 74H is BS. LOL.

There will only ever be one 748 and it's this:

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Photo © Gerhard Plomitzer



The 748 reference to the 747-8 is just made up by people on a-net too lazy to type the correct designation.  

And why are so many enthusiasts referring to aircraft nowadays by their IATA code anyway?
 
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Tue May 01, 2012 9:34 am

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 28):
I got a Ticket as well for the roll in. Taking my cam with me for sure.
Airplane is scheduled to land in FRA at 9:30am local time.

I managed two seats in Economy with Miles and Less miles
416 June 1 from Frankfurt and 419 from Washington Dulles flying back on same aircraft same day.

I am still trying tp see if I can get the return flight in Business to try the new seats.
There is no award seating available in F for either of the flights on 1 June most probably not any time soon.

Early in June will be a very busy time for me but I can't miss out on this.
I want 2012 to be a Double Inaugural year ANA 787 Dreamliner and LH 747-8i new Lady Bee.

I will go to the NASM to see Space Shuttle Discovery and Concorde FA between flights.

                 
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Tue May 01, 2012 9:48 am

Congrats to those who got a ticket for that flight!
I don't have time in that day, so I cannot join in.
I am looking forward to fly it on my own   

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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Tue May 01, 2012 9:50 am

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 33):
I am looking forward to fly it on my own   

Have you been in the Sim already ?
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Tue May 01, 2012 9:56 am

No, and looks like I won't be before August. My time will come  

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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Tue May 01, 2012 11:15 am

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 33):
I don't have time in that day, so I cannot join in.

Yes You can!   

I will be in the middle of moving madness right at that time but I don't want to miss out.

Take 24 hours off. Get a replacement. Make up what you have to do another day, another time.
Cancel your appointments and join the party! Celebrate your new airplane!

Honor your own airline and your own work. Be First to Fly your own airplane. The Lufthansa Boeing 747-800i.
Get on board. Fly back to Frankfurt the same day on the 747-8i and sleep on the way back.

     
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Tue May 01, 2012 4:13 pm

Isn´t there a delivery ceremony today ?
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Tue May 01, 2012 4:34 pm

Quoting columba (Reply 37):
Isn´t there a delivery ceremony today ?

There should be one for departure and one for arrival tomorrow morning in FRA. Can't seem to find a video of the ceremony though. Maybe it'll show up on http://twitter.com/#!/BoeingAirplanes/.

I guess today we should find out the name of D-ABYA... Does anyone know yet?
 
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Tue May 01, 2012 4:43 pm

Quoting LH422 (Reply 38):
Does anyone know yet?

Wilco......................but I doubt that even if he knew that he would tell  


My hope would be for "Brandenburg" and that it will be flown to TXL the same day as the A380 so we would have them both here, the beauty and the beast  

[Edited 2012-05-01 09:45:14]
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Tue May 01, 2012 4:56 pm

I would not say that the 747-8i is a beauty. She is a bit like the A380 in her own ways with a smaller body and thinner wings.

Boeing's true beauty is the 787-8 Dreamliner. There is no question about it.

Anyway, for the news I am sure all will be on the Twitter feed.

I wonder if there is an equivalent twitter for FRAPORT?

What time will D-ABYA (Da Bee ya #2) be leaving Everett Frankfurt time?
Maybe we will be able to track her on Flightaware.

I am sure they will have a big party ready for the welcome ceremony tomorrow after landing.

I hope Lufthansa and FraPort will have e big gate party for all of us who will be on the inaugural commercial flight to IAD on 1 June.



     
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Tue May 01, 2012 5:23 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 40):
She is a bit like the A380 in her own ways with a smaller body and thinner wings.

In other words a beauty  
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 40):
Boeing's true beauty is the 787-8 Dreamliner. There is no question about it.

The 787-8 is a bit too stubby for my taste, not bad looking but the 787-9 will be the real beauty
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Tue May 01, 2012 5:42 pm

Quoting columba (Reply 41):
In other words a beauty

I would not go that far.
I'd say 747-8i is a Queen Mary 2 of the skies while the A380 is a Oasis of the Seas and the 787-8 is a Queen Victoria.

Concorde is of course the QE2 as they teamed together and belonged to a league of their own.

     

I will have more precise impressions of the 747-8i after I fly on the two inaugurals from Frankfurt to Washington Dulles and back on 1 June.

I will be beating my own record with a double whammy inaugural 787-8 Dreamliner with ANA and 747-8i with Lufthansa which will be my second new Boeing airplane inaugural in one calendar year.

The 747-8 is not really a new aircraft type. She is more like an extended and improved version of the 747-400 while the 787-8 Dreamliner is a totally new type of aircraft built with Toray carbon fiber composite materials.

  
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Tue May 01, 2012 6:35 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 40):
What time will D-ABYA (Da Bee ya #2) be leaving Everett Frankfurt time?
Maybe we will be able to track her on Flightaware.

2300 FRA time
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH748
 
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Tue May 01, 2012 7:31 pm

Quoting LH422 (Reply 38):
I guess today we should find out the name of D-ABYA... Does anyone know yet?

It doesn't seem to have been painted yet. A picture from the delivery ceremony at PAE: http://yfrog.com/z/nu4g4pjj
 
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Tue May 01, 2012 7:34 pm

Quoting LH422 (Reply 43):

2300 FRA time
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH748

Thank you. I won't catch much of the flight on departure but I'll look where they are at early morning until they land in Frankfurt.

It would be great if they park right by the ANA 787. I remember we landed with the Dreamliner inaugural flight very early morning. The LH 747-8i and the ANA 787-8 one by the other would make for some really great pictures. Big Sister and Little Sister together at Frankfurt airport.

     
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Tue May 01, 2012 9:33 pm

Quoting LH422 (Reply 43):
2300 FRA time
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH748

There is now a delay, which is good news for spotters in HAM. Those should take a very close look at the planned route and perhaps another one at this: aviation-community.de.  
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Tue May 01, 2012 9:50 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 46):
There is now a delay, which is good news for spotters in HAM.

How nice! But it should be in HAM before 8:30. It took off a few minutes ago:

http://yfrog.com/0rbn0z
 
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Wed May 02, 2012 5:08 am

 
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RE: 748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD

Wed May 02, 2012 6:04 am

Quoting LH422 (Reply 47):
But it should be in HAM before 8:30. It took off a few minutes ago:


Beautiful take off video!

Who iis inside the plane? There must be guests (I bet not in the whY cabin  ) on the flight with several pilots and cabin crew members.

 

I can imagine what it must be like to fly (and party) on an almost empty brand new aircraft!
This ferry flight must be a great flight!

They are getting near Frankfurt airport. I bet they are anxious to see the reception the new Lufthansa Lady Bee will receive when they land and lots on the ground will be waiting for them!!

Happy reception ceremony to all those who are there waiting! I hope there will be lots of pictures of the plane from inside and out!!

Welcome to a very successful flying career D-ABYA!

http://konzern.lufthansa.com/en/themen/boeing-747-8.html

We will be with you soon!

For us who are not "insiders" it will be in a month time for the inaugural flight to IAD and back to Frankfurt 1 June!

Looking forward to it!!

     

Will there be a live cast of the reception ceremony in Frankfurt the same as they do on the Airbus website with their new A380s?

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