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LH 747-8i Without Name... Yet

Wed May 02, 2012 11:41 am

Looking over the pictures of the first delivery of the 747-8i to Lufthansa, as many of you know, she remains nameless.
I've also noted that right above where the name will/would be, the Boeing logo "Boeing 747-8 Intercontinental" is also missing. My guess is that both will be completed by Lufthansa Technik in FRA, prior to her inaugural flights in June.

Any guesses as to what her name will be?

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Wed May 02, 2012 11:51 am

There was one guess here:
748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD (by AlitaliaDC10 Apr 29 2012 in Civil Aviation)
but I haven't read anything from LH themselves.

With the third A380 delivered, they deviated from the standard of naming their aircraft after German states and cities (with the exception of the A340 named "Gander & Halifax"). Perhaps this will extend to the 747-8 fleet as well, perhaps it will not - but with the retirements of more and more 747-400s, their names become available and some have been or will be used for A380s. Others may be reserved for the 747-8.

This site provides an overview of the names: http://www.lh-taufnamen.de/lufthansa/

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RE: LH 747-8i Without Name... Yet

Wed May 02, 2012 11:59 am

I guess "Washington, DC" wouldn't be too far of a stretch, based on what you've noted.
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Wed May 02, 2012 1:19 pm

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 2):
I guess "Washington, DC" wouldn't be too far of a stretch

Wasn't the first A380 called Beijing?
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RE: LH 747-8i Without Name... Yet

Wed May 02, 2012 1:25 pm

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 4):
Wasn't the first A380 called Beijing?

No, first one was Frankfurt am Main and second one was München. Beijing along with Tokyo and the others came later.
 
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Wed May 02, 2012 1:28 pm

Germany had so many wonderful composers. I don't see why Lufthansa should not name their planes after them.

I would be proud to fly on board planes named "Richard Wagner", "Ludwig van Beethoven", "Johannes Brahms", "Richard Strauss", "Johann Sebastian Bach", "Georg Friedrich Händel", "Joseph Haydn", "Gustav Mahler", "Felix Mendelssohn", "Franz Schubert", "Georg Philipp Telemann", "Carl Maria von Weber" or "Robert Schumann".

Their music could be played for welcoming passengers on board their respective named airplanes and also while disembarking.

     
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Wed May 02, 2012 1:33 pm

As mostly I agree with you, MadameConcorde. Actually its even something I mentioned in a LH meeting last year when talking about the A380/748I naming issue. But I expect they´ll just transfer state and city names from 744s being retired.
 
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Wed May 02, 2012 1:57 pm

Doesn't Austrian name the aircraft after musicians? If I remember correctly, this is no recommendation.
 
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Wed May 02, 2012 2:33 pm

Quoting Burkhard (Reply 8):
Doesn't Austrian name the aircraft after musicians?

No. They are named after all sorts of things. There is an A321 named after my home district. God only knows why anyone would name anything after Pinzgau, but there it is.

Quoting Burkhard (Reply 8):
If I remember correctly, this is no recommendation.

Why is that?
 
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Wed May 02, 2012 2:36 pm

Posted this already in another thread :

I believe the 747-8I will like the -430 be named after German Federal States. The A380 is named after major Cities worldwide and large German cities.

The very first D-ABYA, the 747-130 was named "Nordrhein-Westfalen" maybe the new D-ABYA will be as well.....just a thought
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Wed May 02, 2012 3:00 pm

Quoting Burkhard (Reply 8):

I believe Niki Lauda did so originaly!

The new names on the A380 with the global city names doesn´t seem very LH like to me. Nothing special in that!?
They should think big - how about " Solar System" , " Milky Way" ...
 
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Wed May 02, 2012 3:13 pm

Quoting Burkhard (Reply 8):
Doesn't Austrian name the aircraft after musicians? If I remember correctly, this is no recommendation.

Lauda did indeed, but that was more the likes of Bob Marley, Elvis Presley or Falko

the 748 will most likely get the names of the states and larger cities. Since Berlin is taken already for a A380, that leaves 15 state names for the first batch of 748s. MUC and FRA is also for the 380, but there are enough large cities in Germany , Lh won't run out of names.
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Wed May 02, 2012 3:13 pm

Quoting peterjohns (Reply 11):
They should think big - how about " Solar System" , " Milky Way" ...

I'm not sure that "Betelgeuse" would be well-received... and "Andromeda" sounds a bit flashy.   
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Wed May 02, 2012 3:39 pm

They stay with the earthly names for sure.

To keep up the family tradition, the new baby made a touch and go at HAM this morning before flying on t FRA. I could be mistaken, but I think all 747s were flown from either BFI or PAE to HAM first.
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Wed May 02, 2012 4:12 pm

Quoting columba (Reply 10):
I believe the 747-8I will like the -430 be named after German Federal States. The A380 is named after major Cities worldwide and large German cities.

Not quite correct. The A380 is given the names of major Star Alliance hub cities or destinations the bird flies to. What "Berlin" has to do with those, not too sure, but hey, it's a great city nonetheless.

I personally wished they named the 748 after culturally or historically important regions of Germany. Many spring to mind when I think about it: Rhein-Main, Ruhrgebiet, Ostfriesland, Schwarzwald, Schwaben, Brandenburg, Tirol etc...
I'm not sure if it was classy for LH to give away names which don't really have anything to do with Germany (except for "Gander-Halifax", that one deserves it!).

Here's to hoping the 748 will reuse the cities and Länder the 744 leaves behind.
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RE: LH 747-8i Without Name... Yet

Wed May 02, 2012 6:34 pm

Well when you mention "Tirol" you must not forget "Deutsch-Südwest", "Schlesien" and "Kaiser-Wilhelms-Land".  
 
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Wed May 02, 2012 8:50 pm

Quoting Semaex (Reply 15):
What "Berlin" has to do with those, not too sure, but hey, it's a great city nonetheless.

While no major A380 destination, Berlin has several purposes:

1. LH was not allowed to fly to Berlin before reunification - that it is allowed to do so today is still a big reason to celebrate for LH.
2. It is the german capital.
3. LHs ancient history before WW2 (despite the current company not being linked to this company) had a lot to do with Berlin.
 
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RE: LH 747-8i Without Name... Yet

Wed May 02, 2012 9:31 pm

Quoting Burkhard (Reply 8):
Doesn't Austrian name the aircraft after musicians?

I think one of their 737s was named "Freddy Mercury", and I believe that carried over from Lauda if I'm not mistaken.
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Wed May 02, 2012 9:34 pm

Just my opinion, get rid of the Names of the German states,
christen the 748 with names of German Aviation pioneers, like the Ladies Hannah Reitsch, Elly Beinhorn, Kätchen Paulus or the men, Manfred Baron von Richthofen, Graf Zeppelin, Hugo Eckener, or even LH pioneers like Otto Brauer (LH's famous Captain of the Junkers G38), von Gablenz, ... Would be better to remind history! And tell their stories onboard (pics, infos...).
 
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Wed May 02, 2012 9:44 pm

Quoting CiC (Reply 19):
christen the 748 with names of German Aviation pioneers, like the Ladies Hannah Reitsch, Elly Beinhorn, Kätchen Paulus or the men, Manfred Baron von Richthofen, Graf Zeppelin, Hugo Eckener, or even LH pioneers like Otto Brauer (LH's famous Captain of the Junkers G38), von Gablenz, ... Would be better to remind history! And tell their stories onboard (pics, infos...).

The problem is that many of these names also hearken to the 1930's/Nazi period in time leading up to WWII. That isn't exactly something that LH wants to market!
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Wed May 02, 2012 9:53 pm

If anyone has a link to the delivery cermony at FRA I'm sure that would be a real treat for those of us not lucky enough to actually have been there.

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Thu May 03, 2012 2:06 am

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 21):
Lufthansa - You've got a beautiful new baby!! And she'll always be the Queen of the Skies!

Glad to see LH continue its 747 legacy, while other airlines are sadly ending theirs. IF only LH could have continued on with the 737.. a 737-930MAX defiantly has a nice ring to it!  
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Quote:
If anyone has a link to the delivery cermony at FRA I'm sure that would be a real treat for those of us not lucky enough to actually have been there.
Link to regional news channel (german only, but good footage)
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Thu May 03, 2012 6:50 am

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 21):
If anyone has a link to the delivery cermony at FRA I'm sure that would be a real treat for those of us not lucky enough to actually have been there.

I have posted links with lots of pictures of the Frankfurt post-landing ceremony on the other thread - you must have missed out!
748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD (by AlitaliaDC10 Apr 29 2012 in Civil Aviation)

     

Reposting for those who did not see them

This has pictures of the ceremony along with lots of great pictures of the 747-8i interiors (all 3 classes)
You will have to copy/paste as it does not seem to link directly. The pictures are wornderful just as if you are inside the airplane.

https://picasaweb.google.com/104315192179132158307/Lh748iLaunch?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCIb24K_8vejrtQE&feat=directlink

I love that big yellow lanyard with the invitation name badge. Should make a great seller on fleabay for those who have them.

 

More great interior pictures here - all 3 classe
http://news.cnet.com/2300-11386_3-10012159.html?tag=mncol;morePosts

  

The seat map
http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/p...treckenflotte&blt_z=Boeing%20747-8

  

Seattle Times an article on the delivery ceremony at Boeing
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ogy/2018116544_747lufthansa02.html

  

videos!

I love how he did the steep climb followed by wing waves when they took off from PAE

If you think the aircraft is the Queen of the Skies then this Captain must be the King of Captains.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3plCXaNc67w&feature=g-u-u

     

First Lufthansa Boeing 747-8i - D-ABYA - Touch and go at Hamburg Airport
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tvf5-xVeLA&feature=related

other view of the same
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4CWvFVdrUY&feature=related

     
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Thu May 03, 2012 9:50 am

Heck, why not name it "Seattle?" LH certainly won't be using the 748 on FRA-SEA, but they've had a long enough relationship with Boeing that it might be a nice tip of the hat...
 
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Thu May 03, 2012 9:51 am

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 25):
Heck, why not name it "Seattle?" LH certainly won't be using the 748 on FRA-SEA, but they've had a long enough relationship with Boeing that it might be a nice tip of the hat...

[ Edit Post ]

That's an excellent idea. I like that idea a lot. But somehow I doubt it will happen. I guess it will get some German City name. Not sure which, but I have that feeling.

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Thu May 03, 2012 9:56 am

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 25):
Heck, why not name it "Seattle?"

Very good idea indeed. It would signal the close relationship between LH and Boeing as well as an interesting destination.
 
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Thu May 03, 2012 10:10 am

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 25):

Heck, why not name it "Seattle?" LH certainly won't be using the 748 on FRA-SEA, but they've had a long enough relationship with Boeing that it might be a nice tip of the hat...

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Thu May 03, 2012 10:26 am

My vote for naming the new Lufthansa 747-8i goes to Ludwig van Beethoven.

Fill up the whole lower deck with the Berlin Philharmonic playing Beethoven's 9th not forgetting the choir!

     
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Thu May 03, 2012 10:32 am

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 29):
Fill up the whole lower deck with the Berlin Philharmonic playing Beethoven's 9th not forgetting the choir!

That'd be a sight to behold!    However, they shouldn't play Wagner on flights to SGN...   
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Thu May 03, 2012 11:23 am

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 24):


I have posted links with lots of pictures of the Frankfurt post-landing ceremony on the other thread - you must have missed out!
748s Flights Start 01JUN FRA-IAD (by AlitaliaDC10 Apr 29 2012 in Civil Aviation)



Reposting for those who did not see them

This has pictures of the ceremony along with lots of great pictures of the 747-8i interiors (all 3 classes)
You will have to copy/paste as it does not seem to link directly. The pictures are wornderful just as if you are inside the airplane.

https://picasaweb.google.com/104315192179132158307/Lh748iLaunch?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCIb24K_8vejrtQE&feat=directlink



I love that big yellow lanyard with the invitation name badge. Should make a great seller on fleabay for those who have them.

Great pictures of the welcome at FRA Ms. Madame! Grazia!!

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 22):
Glad to see LH continue its 747 legacy, while other airlines are sadly ending theirs.

Once she (D-ABYA) starts strutting her stuff, I think we'll see that trend begin to reverse itself.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...ullish-on-747-8i-prospects-371364/

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By: John Croft Seattle
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Boeing believes entry into revenue service of Lufthansa's first 747-8I on 1 June will help convince many wavering potential customers to place orders for the new jumbo.

Launch customer Lufthansa on 1 May flew the 1,443rd 747 built at Everett to its new home base in Frankfurt. The aircraft is the first of five expected 747-8I deliveries to the airline this year, to be followed by five per year over the next three years to complete the 20-aircraft deal.

"In the last 30 days, we have put out 25 proposals for aircraft [to a number of airlines]," says 747 programme manager Elizabeth Lund. Airlines with existing 747-400 fleets are prime sales targets. "We're having conversations about where the -8 may fit in," Lund says. "[Boeing] feels the 747-8I is a viable aircraft for all long-haul decisions."

She expects China to eventually be the "the biggest market" for the jet, which typically holds 467 passengers in a three-class configuration.

Lufthansa's fleet will hold far fewer. The airline is equipping the type with eight first-class and 92 business-class seats, all built by B/E Aerospace, with 258 economy-seats built by Recaro.

From aircraft six onwards, Lufthansa's 747-8Is will come factory-fitted with broadband connectivity, with the first five aircraft then retrofitted in Frankfurt.

Boeing had total orders for 130 747-8s - both the passenger and freighter variants - as of 1 May. The next available delivery slot is towards the the end of 2013.

Production is expected to increase to two aircraft per month, from 1.5 per month now, "very soon", says Lund. "We intend to stay at two per month for the foreseeable future."

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Thu May 03, 2012 11:31 am

The touch and go in HAM tells the whole story... If I´m not mistaking, the first 747-400 was named Hamburg too..!?
 
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Thu May 03, 2012 11:32 am

Quoting aloges (Reply 30):

That'd be a sight to behold! However, they shouldn't play Wagner on flights to SGN...

Nice one.  
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Thu May 03, 2012 11:40 am

Quoting columba (Reply 28):
City of Everett

I like the nod to RA001, but if Seattle is a long-shot, Everett is a hope and a prayer. I won't even get into the city's lack of redeeming qualities outside of a certain aircraft manufacturing facility...  

Either would be cool. We'll wait and see what LH decides to do!
 
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Thu May 03, 2012 11:53 am

I am a bit jealous of Qatar Amiri as they are the true First to Fly the 747-8i.

Nobody who is not an insider of the Emir will know where they flew first and who was on the flight. I bet there is no registration and flight numbers available for us ordinary crowds to track the flight on flightradar or flightaware.

  

As for my idea of the Berlin Philharmonic performing on board the new mega-jet complete with the choir Wagner can't be on the program as his works are mainly operas. Tannhauser's overture would be awesome to hear though.

I am the one who came up with the idea - not seen the proposal anywhere yet. I can easily give out an idea of what the program would be although leaving the freedom of choice to the director and conductor of what program they will arrange besides Beethoven's 9th.

Tray tables can be used as music score holders. Cellos and stand up Bass can sit in the exit rows and bulkhead rows for more space. All singers can sit in the back maybe occupy all window seats for better overall sound effect.

There can be a chamber music concert on the upper deck with champagne and caviar reception once the Symphony has ended their program. All performers and organization are to be invited.

I am ready to put the idea into reality and take action and of course I want my seat on the flight - I will accept a seat in the back of the plane as long as they bring me the champagne and caviar. LOL.

Lufthansa CEO Christoph Franz might like the idea after all. The project could bring huge publicity to Lufthansa, Boeing and the Berlin Philharmonic.

I will have to submit him the idea.

     

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Thu May 03, 2012 12:29 pm

Quoting tomgib (Reply 32):
If I´m not mistaking, the first 747-400 was named Hamburg too..!?

Inernet to the rescue: "Hamburg" is D-ABTD which joined the fleet on 27APR1990.
http://lh-taufnamen.de/lufthansa/
The first 747-400 to join the fleet (on 23MAY1989) was D-ABVA, her name was "Berlin".
http://lh-taufnamen.de/historische-flotte/
But that name is earmarked for an A380, so Yankee Alpha's name might just come from a soon-to-be-retired 747-400... and "Hamburg" seems to be among those.

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Thu May 03, 2012 12:36 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 36):
But that name is earmarked for an A380

Ah yes, MI will be christened "Berlin". While I appreciate an A380 named after my hometown, I don't like that they discontinue the tradition of naming A380s after Star Alliance hubs. That provided some structure and let the choice appear less random.
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Thu May 03, 2012 12:43 pm

Quoting Rara (Reply 37):
I don't like that they discontinue the tradition of naming A380s after Star Alliance hubs.

Hmm... they aren't exactly holding back on expansion at BER, are they? But I agree that it is sort of in the same league as naming one "São Paulo" would be.
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RE: LH 747-8i Without Name... Yet

Thu May 03, 2012 12:48 pm

So Washington and Hamburg are the hottest candidates, followed by Chicago, Newark and Dehli?

The name that just got free is Sachsen, so no city. Germany does not have enough federal states for 20 B748I, so I don't think this will be the name.
 
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Thu May 03, 2012 12:50 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 36):
Inernet to the rescue: "Hamburg" is D-ABTD which joined the fleet on 27APR1990.
Quoting Burkhard (Reply 39):
Hamburg

Hamburg is still flying. It is D-ABTD and will fly until 2013 when the next 5 748 join the fleet. So chances are rather low for this as well - at the moment at least.

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Thu May 03, 2012 12:56 pm

Quoting Burkhard (Reply 39):
The name that just got free is Sachsen, so no city. Germany does not have enough federal states for 20 B748I, so I don't think this will be the name.

The names on the 744 fleet (and before on the 742) was always a mix between states and state capitals, plus Bochum, Muehlheim/Ruhr and Wolfsburg. There are still enough namjes available for all 748s plus the retained 744s.

I like the idea that the first 748 could be named Hamburg. After all, HAM was first destination for the delivery flight of the first 741 in 1970.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 35):
I am a bit jealous of Qatar Amiri as they are the true First to Fly the 747-8i.

Are you sure? it would be a bit uncomfortable for the Sheikh and the Sheikha since the interior fitting takes a little while. IIRC the aircraft was ferried first to ICT and LH could be the ones who do the interior at their tech base in HAM.
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Quoting PanHAM (Reply 41):
Are you sure? it would be a bit uncomfortable for the Sheikh and the Sheikha since the interior fitting takes a little while. IIRC the aircraft was ferried first to ICT and LH could be the ones who do the interior at their tech base in HAM.

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I would have to catch their Katara Yacht here in the area for as long as I am still here. Mozah is an ardent francophile (or more like Riviera-phile) A trip to Antibes might be in the plans around Monaco GP time.

Sheikha and sons are seen in Cannes and Antibes. Just needs to know what mooring they are at. There's a flurry of them mega yachts in Antibes. Roman Abramovicz and his Eclipse, Al Walid bin Talal with his Kingdom KR5 and Sheikha Mozah with her Katara among others.

I wonder if Al Walid's Flying Palace is ready yet. It was to be fitted by Lufthansa Technik in Hamburg.
Any news on that?

    
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RE: LH 747-8i Without Name... Yet

Thu May 03, 2012 1:18 pm

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 31):
Boeing bullish on 747-8I prospects

Well, they been saying that for ages, but we still haven't seen many orders
 
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RE: LH 747-8i Without Name... Yet

Thu May 03, 2012 1:30 pm

Quoting someone83 (Reply 43):

Well, they been saying that for ages, but we still haven't seen many orders

I guess we'll see now that she's in service. Lufthansa has reported better then expected performance, so far. Once she goes through her "break in" we'll have a much better idea.
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RE: LH 747-8i Without Name... Yet

Fri May 04, 2012 10:55 am

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 40):
Hamburg is still flying. It is D-ABTD and will fly until 2013 when the next 5 748 join the fleet. So chances are rather low for this as well - at the moment at least.

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Wilco my friend, please let us know when she is named. Fascinating to see what fleet plannings name conventions will be for the 748s. I find it interesting that Washington was announced so quickly.
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RE: LH 747-8i Without Name... Yet

Fri May 04, 2012 11:02 am

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 45):
Wilco my friend, please let us know when she is named. Fascinating to see what fleet plannings name conventions will be for the 748s. I find it interesting that Washington was announced so quickly.

I don't know anything about the name. There are rumours, but nothing worth talking about. Only rumours. Once I know something I will let you guys know.
What is strange is, that nothing is written on the airplane, not even the BOEING 747-8 intercontinental...

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RE: LH 747-8i Without Name... Yet

Fri May 04, 2012 5:03 pm

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 46):
What is strange is, that nothing is written on the airplane, not even the BOEING 747-8 intercontinental...

I found that strange too as I commented in my first post on this thread. I'm guessing that both will be applied by Technik before she starts her runs to Washington.
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RE: LH 747-8i Without Name... Yet

Fri May 04, 2012 6:05 pm

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What is strange is, that nothing is written on the airplane, not even the BOEING 747-8 intercontinental...

It's all about corporate identity:
There is no title on the plane, because Boeing demanded the Boeing font, what Lufthansa did not want on their planes. Boeing also refused to use LH font.....
Guess what will happen in the next days  
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RE: LH 747-8i Without Name... Yet

Fri May 04, 2012 6:37 pm

Quoting geizistgeil (Reply 48):
There is no title on the plane, because Boeing demanded the Boeing font, what Lufthansa did not want on their planes. Boeing also refused to use LH font.....

Why is Boeing allowed to dictate that?
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