scaredflyer21
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Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 9:06 am

did you like it? is it really that quiet? What airline? how many flight attendants?thanks!!!
 
philb
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 9:10 am

Air UK 1x100srs, 1x300srs
Aer Lingus 1x200srs and 1x300srs

Reasonably quiet, attendants vary per airline.

Flying ex Dublin on Thursday by BAe146 to Manchester, returning Monday.

Given the gales in the British Isles at the moment, I should be able to report on its rough weather ride
 
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 9:30 am

Only on the newer models named RJ-85 or -100 - with Crossair. Great airplane!!! Takes off and lands on a quarter and gives a dime back as change.
External noise is world record low. Internal noise is about the same as any other modern jet.
I never count the F/As.
Best regards, Preben Norholm
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USAFHummer
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 9:32 am

Flew on UA Express-Air Wisconsin Bae-146 DEN-COS this summer, it was a rough ride because of weather, but short-it's a cramped plane inside cause it holds 100 people-I was lucky and had Row 1 so I had room to stretch
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jasewgtn
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 9:36 am

I have flown on the 142, 143 many times on Qantas New Zealand (formerly Ansett New Zealand) and they are quiet hence the nickname in New Zealand of "The Whisper Jet".

On Qantas NZ they usally have 4 flight attendants.

Jase
 
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 10:10 am

I flew STN-CDG-STN on a Buzz Bae 146-300 back in May of this year. There were three flight attendants.

One good feature of the aircraft is that they loaded it at the front and rear via airstairs simultaneously...taking less than 5 mins to fully load the a/c. Seating was pretty good....and I am 6'4". Only complaint was that the interior plexiglass window was badly scratched.
 
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 11:11 am

I used to fly YEG-YVR on Air BC's 146-300's. It certainly is a very quiet aircraft. Its only downside in my opinion is that it seems to have a lower ceiling than the 737, which in summer meant picking our way around thunderheads building up over the mountains, rather than flying over them.
 
BA
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 11:37 am

I've been on the newer Avro RJ family. I first flew on a Avro RJ85 from Geneva (GVA) to Zurich (ZRH) on Crossair. Just last year I flew on Avro RJ100 from London Gatwick (LGW) to Zurich (ZRH) on CityFlyer Express. Great plane! Extremely quiet. Quite roomy and comfortable. It has EXTREMELY short take off and landings. Amazingly it doesn't have thrust reversers!!!!
BAe Systems Regional Aircraft are working on a new and improved version called the Avro RJX!

Here is their site:
http://www.bae.regional.co.uk

Hope that helps!

Kind regards,
BA
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sccutler
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 11:51 am

Frequently, during the days of PSA and AirCal in California; very comfy, quiet and a good ride except:

1. "Penalty Box" seats at right rear- two seats w/o window, next to lav- no fun!

2. That howl they make when deploying flaps; scare the whee out of you if you don't expect it- typically, after falling fitfully asleep on trip back to SNA from SFO after a long day of business.

AA & US were both too dense to recognize the common sense of these a/c, in my view... and now, AA's running around buying RJ's.
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
 
airman99o
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 12:28 pm

Flown this aircraft many times. with Air Nova. Love the plane, Normally 4 F/A's. A little cramped for me seeing that I am 6'3". but takes off in no time at all and I love the sound that the Flaps make when being retracted!! sounds really strange. Mind you the first time on this aircraft I thought that the wings were going to be torn off!! Kinda never paid attentation to the Flight attendant's saying that it was a feature of this plane!! Oh well serves me right for not listening!!

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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 12:59 pm

UNI Air (Taiwan)...45 minute flight was not very nice. Seats were 3x3 and so cramped I couldn't bend over to put my camera away (so I held it the whole flight). And I'm only 5'7!
 
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 2:29 pm

Only once. It was a couple of years ago. Air Wisconsin/United Express from CID to DEN. I was seated starboard side behind the wing. The complexity of the flaps is AMAZING! It did concern me a little that occasionally during cruise, the number 3 engine would have short burst of black smoke. It was very short and hardly noticable due to the speed, but made me nervous anyway. Any comments?
 
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 2:50 pm


I have taken a ride on it in 1995 on Lufthansa. The trip was short as it was only from FRA to STR (30mins).
I really liked the plane and the cabin as well. Would like to take a ride on one again.

Cheers, B737-700
 
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 3:11 pm

TWA717_200,
A lot of turbine aircraft engines can 'puff' smoke, it is normally caused by the engine seals allowing small amounts of oil into the combustion chamber causing black oil smoke to pass through the exhaust. At night it is also possible to see jet efflux, a blue light aft of the engine caused by the combustion process. This is the wonder of an aircraft with jets just outside your window. The Do328 Jet is probably the same.
 
 
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 4:04 pm

I flew a Northwest Airlink BAE-146 from MSP-DLH back in December, it was a real short (30 mins), comfortable flight, takeoff was quite long, and the landing was quite long also. I had a view into the rear of the engine but I didnt see any blue flame (I was hoping to though). The inside of the aircraft looked brand spanking new and smelled new also, the noise levels were about the same if not higher than other jets. The one thing that I hate about this plane is, it is just plain ugly.
 
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 5:03 pm

One of my favorites.
I flew on a 146-300 with East West airlines of Australia although at the time the aircraft were already painted in full Ansett livery with only a small East-West sticker near the door.
The flight was from Sydney to Hobart, about two hours flying time. the interior layout was 3-2 giving slightly wider seats than most. I remember being pushed back and thinking that they should start the engines now, but they already had, I just never noticed, I honestly thought it was the aircraft next to us.
We had Four F/A's and champagne on departure! The flight was just great and fairly smooth except for the crossing of Bass Straight which is always bumpy due to strong westerly winds.
Landing really surprised me as there is no reverse thrust, I was waiting for the roar and it just wasn't there. This is a great plane. I had a great flight and I'd love to put my bum in one anytime!
 
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 5:13 pm

First and only time on a 146 was on an ill-fated day trip ORD-MSN in December 1996. Thanks to w/x we wound up diverting and I flew ORD - MSN (divert) - DSM (refuel) - MSN (divert) - MSP (divert) - MKE (get in bus) - MSN (airport closed) - LSE - MSP - ORD

I have a couple rides on the Mesaba ARJ-85 next month to STL. Hopefully, these will be slightly less circuitous!  
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 9:13 pm

Believe it or not US did operate the 146 at oone time in 1993 I think-but they were sold off.

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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Thu Oct 12, 2000 11:13 pm

Adam 84-

Just to let you know Northwest JetAirlink Mesaba operates Avro RJ 85s. Not BAe146s.

They are really comfy planes and are all brand new inside. They even have 16 real first class seats up front and a comfortable 2-3 in main cabin.

GREAT airplane
 
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Fri Oct 13, 2000 4:58 am

Flew on a RJ85 with Northwest JetAirlink Mesaba from Detroit to TYS in August of this year. Was very roomy and comfortable inside, took most of the runway to get off the ground with a full load passengers, 2 flight attendants, fuel, and baggage.
 
TWA717_200
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Fri Oct 13, 2000 2:28 pm

AJ,

Thanks for the info.


More on the -146...It's always reminded me of a mini Lockheed. Like a baby brother to the C-141, C-5, C-17. Kinda buff looking for an airliner.
 
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Fri Oct 13, 2000 2:54 pm

I've flown on AirBC's BAe 146-200s several times, mainly YEG-YYJ(Victoria) and YEG-YVR. But I have gone on an AirNova 146-200 once from YUL to YQM(Moncton, NB).

The BAe 146 is pretty quiet compared to other jets from the outside. Inside the cabin, the noise level is comparable to the A319/320. AirBC's and Air Nova's BAe 146s are pretty comfortable and interesting to ride in.
 
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Sun Oct 15, 2000 11:03 am

back in the late 90`s discovery airways started flying the bae-146, for hawaiian inter-island flights. that didn't last very long. but before they went under i had a chance to fly the bae-146 on the honolulu to maui run. the interior seem very cramped with low ceiling and seating 3x3 not enough leg room for traveler over 6 ft. coming in on final approach to kahului which is usually very windy this aircraft kept banking left and right. i fly alot between the islands and maui is my home. having flown on both aloha and hawaiian airlines it seems this aircraft could not handle the strong winds coming into kahului. well i hope you got enough info........
 
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Sun Oct 15, 2000 12:42 pm

I flew in an Ansett BAe 146 From Townsville to Brisbane, here in Australia - this is usually a 737-300 route, so it was a bit of a letdown to be on a jet with no inflight audio. Otherwise I can't complain about the flight, it was pretty similar to most jets in noise, though a bit slower in climb than the Boeings.
 
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Sun Oct 15, 2000 9:09 pm

I Flew in AWAC Bae 146 DEN-COS Summer '98 to get to an outdoor camp there. Now I fly TWA out there b/c it's cheaper.
 
Victor Hotel
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Sun Oct 15, 2000 9:45 pm

I havent had the luck or probably need to fly on one since i havent really ever been on a smaller rought. I would love to fly on one, one day though, and I really like the look of them.
 
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Tue Oct 17, 2000 1:04 am

Yes: ATH-MLA twice and MLA-BCN once.
Nice bird, silent. Cram depends on carrier.
Air Malta (KM/AMC) was OK for me (I'm 6'5" = 1m92) and did not feel bad. One of the sectors (ATH-MLA) started at 5.00am, so I enjoyed the blue light cones coming out the turbines as long as it was night.
And didn't hear that noise due to flaps or whatever.

Do not miss it! You'll love it.

Best turbulences.
 
philb
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RE: Have You Ridden In A Bae146

Wed Oct 18, 2000 2:42 am

Just back from my daughter's wedding and I promised to report on the 146 in rough weather.

Flew DUB-MAN last Thursday with gusting NW wind at 18 - 35 knots at DUB, much quieter at MAN though heavy thunder showers made for an interesting approach. Rode in row 7 and, being under the wind the ride was not at all bad in moderate chop.

On the return, was in row 4. Again, the wind was quite strong (around 20 knots) from the SW. Made a very steep approach into DUB and stopped on a dime - very impressive!

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