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Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 3:53 am

I was wondering, does Delta still plans to have AVOD installed on the 739ERs? Last time I heard, DL was planning on having factory-installed Panasonic Eco 9i Integrated Smart monitors in B/E Aerospace Pinnacle seats in Y, despite opposition by Delta EVP Ops Steve Gorman, since he believed that portable tablets are the future of IFE.

So, now several months later, I would like to know if DL still plans on installing the Eco 9i Integrated Smart Monitors in B/E Aerospace Pinnacle seats on the 739ER. Does anyone have info?

[Edited 2012-05-03 20:56:36]
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 3:55 am

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):

Coming directly from RA at a recent employee forum..."Our 737-900s coming online next year will be ETOPS ready and have personal video through-out". So yes, they will come standard.
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 4:02 am

Too bad they aren't doing wireless AVOD like they have on the 757-300.
 
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 4:05 am

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 2):
Too bad they aren't doing wireless AVOD like they have on the 757-300.

That will eventually be rolled out system-wide. The test bed was on 5806 with the entire type being completed shortly after. I've also seen it on a few 738s recently so it is getting there.
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 4:08 am

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 3):
That will eventually be rolled out system-wide. The test bed was on 5806 with the entire type being completed shortly after. I've also seen it on a few 738s recently so it is getting there.

Seems like they are wasting money then, installing personal screens on the 739ER's, no?? Why not just install the wireless system throughout??
 
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 4:13 am

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 4):
Seems like they are wasting money then, installing personal screens on the 739ER's, no?? Why not just install the wireless system throughout??

IDK. I don't remembr the ship number but the a/c where I noticed the streaming movies through GoGo was in fact on a 73H. Let's not forget the movie is good for 24hrs? So I guess the theory is that say you start your travel on a 73H, you can still download the movie because your connecting flight may be on a non-AVOD a/c. That's just my thinking about it. The upgrade to the GoGo equipment is very minimal from what i've seen so I don't think it's that expensive; plus GoGo is footing the bill anyway.
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 4:13 am

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 4):
Seems like they are wasting money then, installing personal screens on the 739ER's, no?? Why not just install the wireless system throughout??

Because many people don't want the hassle of unpacking and and having their laptops or tablets taking up space. Plus, not all laptops have the same battery life. Having personal screens is simply more convenient for many travelers.
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 4:15 am

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
since he believed that portable tablets are the future of IFE.

Realize that, unless DL shells out a huge amount of money into incentives into buying tablet computers, that a lot of people aren't gonna buy them. I personally only know like 5 people who own them (and I know a BUNCH of people thoughout the world.)
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 4:19 am

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 6):
Because many people don't want the hassle of unpacking and and having their laptops or tablets taking up space.

You've GOT to be kidding  

Probably every third, or even as high as every other person, has an iPad these days on an airplane. Besides, it's not exactly a baffling ordeal to remove ones computer or iPad from their laptop bag or backpack.
 
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 4:22 am

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 5):
The upgrade to the GoGo equipment is very minimal from what i've seen so I don't think it's that expensive; plus GoGo is footing the bill anyway.

I was told it's coming to the entire fleet.
 
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 4:24 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 7):
Realize that, unless DL shells out a huge amount of money into incentives into buying tablet computers, that a lot of people aren't gonna buy them. I personally only know like 5 people who own them (and I know a BUNCH of people thoughout the world.)

I don't have an iPad...it's not because I can't afford it; i'm just not a "gadget" type of guy. I have a pretty powerful laptop and I have my smart phone. With my phone, I have tons of music stored plus I have the ability to use wifi so I never even saw the need for an iPod. I don't see th point in shelling out $600+ for an iPad when my laptop and iPhone does everything I need to do. So I do understand 100% what you're saying.

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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 5:00 am

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 8):
You've GOT to be kidding

Probably every third, or even as high as every other person, has an iPad these days on an airplane. Besides, it's not exactly a baffling ordeal to remove ones computer or iPad from their laptop bag or backpack.

You've GOT to be kidding me that any flight has every third person with an ipad. Another a.neter not living in reality.
 
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 5:38 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 7):
I personally only know like 5 people who own them (and I know a BUNCH of people thoughout the world.)

I'm not sure about globally but in the US tablet ownership is 1 in 10.
 
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 7:06 am

Quoting flyingcaT (Reply 12):
I'm not sure about globally but in the US tablet ownership is 1 in 10.

Well out of my close friends, one American, one Japanese, one Thai, one Korean, and one Taiwanese owns an iPad....i have a lot of friends who own kindles or whatever it is that Amazon belts out these days.

Realize that your 1/10 is 10% of Americans, which, while 10% of 304 million is a decent sized number, still doesn't cover no where near the majority of flyers in America (at least, I don't think.)
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 8:03 am

I just wonder if they will keep the Live TV system... that is one thing that an ipad can't do.
I enjoy the ability to watch CNN (MSNBC) live... The Dish Network doesn't work as well as Direct TV, but is still pretty good.

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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 4:12 pm

Quoting Carfield (Reply 14):
I just wonder if they will keep the Live TV system... that is one thing that an ipad can't do.
I enjoy the ability to watch CNN (MSNBC) live... The Dish Network doesn't work as well as Direct TV, but is still pretty good.

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Since these are domestic aircraft, I'm guessing yes.
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 4:30 pm

IMHO power ports in every seat would be necessary for wireless AVOD to really take off, pardon the pun. My smartphone can't last more than a few hours with constant use, and I'd still like to keep some juice for when I get off the plane. Same for my laptop. Given the option between using in-seat AVOD or one of my portable battery-limited devices, I'd take the in-seat AVOD anytime.
 
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 8:39 pm

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 10):
I have the ability to use wifi so I never even saw the need for an iPod. I don't see th point in shelling out $600+ for an iPad when my laptop and iPhone does everything I need to do. So I do understand 100% what you're saying.

Glad I am not the only person that thinks that way.

Quoting Carfield (Reply 14):
I just wonder if they will keep the Live TV system... that is one thing that an ipad can't do.

Exactly! I love being able to watch ESPN or live sports when flying. I have timed trips before with the live TV flights to do this and avoid missing a game totally.
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 11:01 pm

Excuse me if slightly off topic, but what about the 320 fleet? no PTV/AVOD updates here? No plans?
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Fri May 04, 2012 11:05 pm

Quoting AM001 (Reply 18):
Excuse me if slightly off topic, but what about the 320 fleet? no PTV/AVOD updates here? No plans?

Plans for retrofitting existing domestic aircraft are currently on hold due to high fuel prices. If/when fuel prices go down, Delta may reconsider it. These 739ERs should come with AVOD factory-installed.

FYI, the 739ERs should replace some of the older A320s, as well as older 757s. I heard DL is targeting the 5500-series 752s for replacement.
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Sat May 05, 2012 3:46 am

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 8):
robably every third, or even as high as every other person, has an iPad these days on an airplane.

Not sure what planes your flying on but if i see three people on a 737 with ipads i think that's a lot. Are the new 739s expected to do a lot of transcon flying or are they more for new routes or expansion? Delta sure will have, and already has, a diverse fleet!
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RE: Delta 737-900ER Seats/AVOD Update?

Sat May 05, 2012 3:48 am

Quoting JHCRJ700 (Reply 20):
Not sure what planes your flying on but if i see three people on a 737 with ipads i think that's a lot. Are the new 739s expected to do a lot of transcon flying or are they more for new routes or expansion? Delta sure will have, and already has, a diverse fleet!

They will pretty much be used throughout the domestic system wherever 757s are flown. They will also be ETOPS from the factory, so expect to see them on West Coast-Hawaii routes.
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