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Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 4:55 pm

A Ryanair air hostess fell out of the plane while attempting to close the door at GSE earlier today. She fell 3 meters and injured her head but was contactable.

http://www.thelocal.se/40712/20120508/

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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GOT

Tue May 08, 2012 5:04 pm

Ouch, that gotta hurt!

But according to the article it took place on Gothenburg City airport, GSE, and not at GOT. Which makes sense since FR doesn't fly to GOT.
 
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GOT

Tue May 08, 2012 5:34 pm

Hostess? It's 2012 and the correct term is Flight Attendant or Cabin Crew Member...

I hope she recovers quickly!
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 5:41 pm

Quoting m11stephen (Reply 2):

Oh I'm sorry, but I quoted the aticle, and hostess sounds more glamorous than Flight attendant  

But I must say that I have thought more than once that it looks very dangerous when they lean out to close the door and that an accident was bound to happen
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Tue May 08, 2012 5:43 pm

Quoting m11stephen (Reply 2):
Hostess? It's 2012 and the correct term is Flight Attendant or Cabin Crew Member...

Jeez, sorry!   It's not as if nobody knows what was meant!

Hope the crew member is ok. FR turnarounds can be dangerous, 25 minutes is a short space of time to unload, clean, load, move ground equipment... Not surprising an accident has happened.
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 5:51 pm

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 4):
Hope the crew member is ok. FR turnarounds can be dangerous, 25 minutes is a short space of time to unload, clean, load, move ground equipment... Not surprising an accident has happened.

I don't know how they do it... 24 minutes is barely enough time to turn a CRJ-200...!
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 6:00 pm

Quoting johnkrist (Reply 3):
that I have thought more than once that it looks very dangerous when they lean out to close the door and that an accident was bound to happen

Some time ago, circa 1996, i was sitting in 1A (all Y confing) in an rather old DC-9 flying for P5 at the time. When everyone was ready, one F/A lean out the plane to reach for the door with her left hand, and all of the sudden, the handle she was grabbing with her right hand, simply failed and the poor woman fell off directly into the tarmac. I clearly remember seeing the F/A lying down on the tarmac sideways, painfully screaming. Medical crews came really fast and took her away. Some years later in an AV flight to JFK I was chatting with a F/A and this story came, they told me they kner her and she had serious issues with some hip bone fractures and IIRC, she had to quit her job. Obviously, things ended up in court, P5 being sued.

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 4):
Hope the crew member is ok.

Hopefully she'll recover and get back to work again.

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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 6:02 pm

Poor girl! Hope she'll be alright.. Open a/c doors are a danger that is IMO seriously underestimated, and I am surprised at how often we see reports about accidents..

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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 6:06 pm

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 4):
FR turnarounds can be dangerous, 25 minutes is a short space of time to unload, clean, load, move ground equipment... Not surprising an accident has happened.

What's that got to do with her falling out the door?
 
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 6:11 pm

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 7):

Poor girl! Hope she'll be alright.. Open a/c doors are a danger that is IMO seriously underestimated, and I am surprised at how often we see reports about accidents..

Yes and the 737 doors are notoriously difficult to operate given that they are an old design and do not have power assistance.
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Tue May 08, 2012 6:15 pm

In the United States at least CSA's (Gate Agents) are usually responsible for opening and closing the door from the outside. Not only is the chance of anyone getting injured significantly reduced but the chance of an inadvertent slide deployment is also decreased.
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 6:22 pm

Why oh why don't they shut the door first, and then retract the airstairs. Then they can stand on the airstairs to get the door over centre.
A B737 door is an accident waiting to happen. I have complained about them many times. They are so dangerous, especially the fwd doors which have to be pulled uphill to close.
How Boeing got the FAA to accept them on the NG.
Any reputable airline would insist on having a set of steps under the door when it is open.
In our airline it is an automatic ASR if a door is even cracked open with no platform under it. We are not going to have another injured crew member.

Feel very sorry for the lady, and hope she has some sort of union so she can sue Ryanair for unsafe working practices.

If you do this at work, think about it. It is not safe.
 
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 6:24 pm

Some years back a U2 pilot was badly hurt when he fell out of a 737 door at EDI:
http://www.pprune.org/archive/index.php/t-80929.html
 
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 6:32 pm

Quoting m11stephen (Reply 10):
but the chance of an inadvertent slide deployment is also decreased.

Not on a B737.
Remember 1962 design, manual slide attachment.
Open from the outside, no automatic slide disarm.
And they still make new ones!
 
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 6:38 pm

Quoting m11stephen (Reply 2):
Hostess? It's 2012 and the correct term is Flight Attendant or Cabin Crew Member...

In North America maybe
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 6:41 pm

FOXROMEO

25 minute turn round surely means that everything is done in a hurry.

When you rush, slip up happen.
 
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Tue May 08, 2012 6:50 pm

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 11):
Any reputable airline would insist on having a set of steps under the door when it is open.

Ryanair's 738's still have the retractable air-stairs that most others delete on the fore door, I believe these most certainly need to be retracted to close the door.
 
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Tue May 08, 2012 6:54 pm

**I was INCORRECT!**

I must've been remembering the MD80 Airstairs where we couldn't close the L1 Door until retraction was complete...

[Edited 2012-05-08 12:21:41]
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 7:10 pm

Ryanair door operation fail:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByBJwPxxb0A
 
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 7:44 pm

I've always used the term Stewardess as it seems more respectful to me. No one's ever biffed me for it on board so I assume they agree as well.
 
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Tue May 08, 2012 8:04 pm

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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 8:14 pm

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 13):
Not on a B737.
Remember 1962 design, manual slide attachment.
Open from the outside, no automatic slide disarm.
And they still make new ones!

You're right! My apologies I was thinking of the 757...

I remember an incident back in the early 2000s involving a Ryanair aircraft where the underbelly caught fire and had to be evacuated... 2 of the 4 cabin crew members lacked the strength to open the 737 doors in emergency mode.
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 8:19 pm

Quoting EIDL (Reply 16):
Ryanair's 738's still have the retractable air-stairs that most others delete on the fore door, I believe these most certainly need to be retracted to close the door

That's the difference here, hanging out over the ground without the safety of the airstair top platform. Hanging out a long way too might even breach EU Working at Height Legislation. In fact, without a safety harness I am sure it does!
 
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 8:43 pm

Quoting FlyingSicilian (Reply 14):
In North America maybe

Hope he never heard the song Air Hostess by Busted. Would probably cry.
 
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Tue May 08, 2012 8:45 pm

Quoting m11stephen (Reply 10):
In the United States at least CSA's (Gate Agents) are usually responsible for opening and closing the door from the outside.

This has been my experience in the US. I can't recall ever seeing the flight attendants working the door alone, either at departure or on arrival. Often more than one gate agent is waiting outside on arrival and if not, the attendant inside waits until someone arrives, much to the annoyance of the passengers trying to stampede off the aircraft.

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 11):
A B737 door is an accident waiting to happen. I have complained about them many times.

Perhaps a timely call to the 737MAX development team is in order!!

Those doors look heavy. I am surprised flight attendants and gate agents haven't lost fingers trying to close them!
 
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Tue May 08, 2012 8:56 pm

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 24):
Those doors look heavy. I am surprised flight attendants and gate agents haven't lost fingers trying to close them!

If they are using the Ryaniar preferred retractable stairs, the ground crew cannot assist with opening or closing the door. Is this a Ryanair only story? How many operators with 737's use retractable stairs, or any other aircraft with similar arrangements, where an unfortunate accident like this could happen?
 
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 9:00 pm

Hopefully this Hostess will be fine, people do not realize even falling a few feet or 1meter can cause serious injuries, let alone faling from a 737 onto concrete hopefully she will recover.
 
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Tue May 08, 2012 9:04 pm

When several million 737 flight a year manage to get their doors closed without hitting the tarmac I have to assume it's not exactly rocket science. One person falling out doesn't mean excessive danger. It means carelessness. There are safer jobs if that one's too much for someone.
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Tue May 08, 2012 9:12 pm

An All Nippon Airways F/A was killed in 1987 when she fell out of a door of a 747, and fell 20 feet to the ground.

http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/br...ef.aspx?ev_id=20001213X31727&key=1
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 9:18 pm

The original 737-200's with retractable forward stairs required the F/A to literally pull the door closed.....no power assist. You had to disengage part of the airstair so the door would clear, and the stairs collapsed and began retracting as the door was closed. The door was finally sealed when the airstair was stored. In that intial closing sequence you leaned out of the airplane to pull the door; hence, an accident waiting to happen.....and it did on a rare occasion until jetways became more common, but you never forgot your lecture and door trainer class.
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 9:20 pm

Quoting FlyingSicilian (Reply 14):
In North America maybe

Cabin Crew Member is the preferred term among most European airlines, in fact, I don't think I've heard Flight Attendant being used outside of North America, at least in an official context by airlines.

Quoting airsmiles (Reply 19):
I've always used the term Stewardess as it seems more respectful to me. No one's ever biffed me for it on board so I assume they agree as well.

This term was binned years ago, crew didn't like it because it assumed all they did/do is pour tea & coffee and look pretty, living up to the stereotype if you like.

[Edited 2012-05-08 14:22:29]
 
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 9:23 pm

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 11):
A B737 door is an accident waiting to happen. I have complained about them many times. They are so dangerous, especially the fwd doors which have to be pulled uphill to close.

I once saw two (2) Tuifly Nordic FA's trying to close the R1 door on a 737-800. Looked kind of reassuring (or not).

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 24):
This has been my experience in the US. I can't recall ever seeing the flight attendants working the door alone, either at departure or on arrival. Often more than one gate agent is waiting outside on arrival and if not, the attendant inside waits until someone arrives, much to the annoyance of the passengers trying to stampede off the aircraft.

At most European airlines (at least BA, LX, LH, AY and AF) the cabin crew opens the doors, but only after the gate agents knocks. I think it so that they would have more experience opening them than the recurrent training but I'm not sure.

Quoting m11stephen (Reply 2):

Hostess? It's 2012 and the correct term is Flight Attendant or Cabin Crew Member...

The term stewardess is no longer used because in US as it represents the discriminatory way cabin crew were treated in the 60's. However the word air hostess has no such negative connotations. It was for example still used in the UK in the 90's but was replaced by cabin crew to highlight their importance as crew members (might have something to do with the Kegworth crash, just guessing).
 
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Tue May 08, 2012 9:32 pm

I hope she has a speedy recovery and speedy return to work. For us metrically challenged: 3 meters is 9.84 ft.! Quite a drop and scary. Several years ago, while working a flight to ATL, I managed to slide on a carbon slip from gate checking bags. This according to the captain. Luckily this was a 717 and not one of our 737's! This was one case where having some "hippo bloat"
spared me from severe injury. My tushy collided with the ground and I sprained my left ankle. I actually drove my then at the time stick shift car to Concentra for the obligatory pee test. I got up laughing as I ascended the Jetway. I pushed that flight on time. Inside the terminal there was a long legged lass who was hearing impaired I swear I may have cured her hearing.
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Tue May 08, 2012 9:32 pm

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 11):
Feel very sorry for the lady, and hope she has some sort of union so she can sue Ryanair for unsafe working practices.

First time I've seen the words "Ryanair" and "union" in the same sentence in a while.
So: not very likely, and knowing Ryanair, I wouldn't expect much support from the company to its injured employee, either.

Quoting ScottishDavie (Reply 12):
Some years back a U2 pilot was badly hurt when he fell out of a 737 door at EDI:
http://www.pprune.org/archive/index.....html

Sounds like this might have happened here, as well, if the article in the thread starter is to be believed.

In any case, I hope she makes a speedy recovery and a thorough investigation shows if there are lessons to be learned to prevent this in the future.
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Tue May 08, 2012 9:43 pm

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Tue May 08, 2012 9:53 pm

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 24):
Those doors look heavy. I am surprised flight attendants and gate agents haven't lost fingers trying to close them!

I have lost half a front tooth trying to open one. True story  
 
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Tue May 08, 2012 10:13 pm

Quoting EIDL (Reply 16):
Ryanair's 738's still have the retractable air-stairs that most others delete on the fore door, I believe these most certainly need to be retracted to close the door.

On all B737 you must stow the upper handrails. Then you can fully close the door. Then you retract the airstair. You can open and close the door with the airstair in place.

Quoting nomadd22 (Reply 27):
One person falling out doesn't mean excessive danger. It means carelessness. There are safer jobs if that one's too much for someone.

It is unsafe and dangerous every time it is done. There was once a Ryanair incident when the cabin crew could not open the L1 door with the slide armed because it was too heavy!

Quoting PI4EVER (Reply 29):
The original 737-200's with retractable forward stairs required the F/A to literally pull the door closed.....no power assist. You had to disengage part of the airstair so the door would clear, and the stairs collapsed and began retracting as the door was closed.

Still the same on a factory fresh aircraft. There is no power assist to open or close a B737 door. But on all B737s (including -200) the airstair only moves when you operate the switch in the panel over the door. or the big handle outside.

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 24):
Perhaps a timely call to the 737MAX development team is in order!!

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Tue May 08, 2012 11:22 pm

Quoting m11stephen (Reply 21):
I remember an incident back in the early 2000s involving a Ryanair aircraft where the underbelly caught fire and had to be evacuated... 2 of the 4 cabin crew members lacked the strength to open the 737 doors in emergency mode.

Am I wrong in saying that these 2 shouldn't have been cabin crew? At the very least, FA's should be able to open any/all emergency exits, no?
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 12:09 am

Quoting m11stephen (Reply 5):
I don't know how they do it... 24 minutes is barely enough time to turn a CRJ-200...!

Maybe in the US but in Europe airlines are focussing on a thing called profit, so they do more things in less time.   Did countless 25 minute turnarounds with A319's and 737's myself. In normal situations it's enough time, only in situations when you have wheelchair pax or no-shows with bags 25 minutes is a bit short, but it can still be done.

Quoting kdhurst380 (Reply 30):
Cabin Crew Member is the preferred term among most European airlines, in fact, I don't think I've heard Flight Attendant being used outside of North America, at least in an official context by airlines.

Cabin crew member in economy class except in North America, where you are a flight attendant in coach.  
Quoting lucce (Reply 31):
At most European airlines (at least BA, LX, LH, AY and AF) the cabin crew opens the doors, but only after the gate agents knocks. I think it so that they would have more experience opening them than the recurrent training but I'm not sure.

   Knock on the door and/or thumbs up in front of the window when it's safe for the cabin crew to open the door.
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Wed May 09, 2012 12:09 am

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 4):
25 minutes is a short space of time to unload, clean, load, move ground equipment... Not surprising an accident has happened.

In the Unites States, WN does this all the time, and I don't recall many accidents happening with them (you would think that they would change the practice or implement more safety-oriented procedures if it happened frequently).
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 3:22 am

Quoting nomadd22 (Reply 27):
When several million 737 flight a year manage to get their doors closed without hitting the tarmac I have to assume it's not exactly rocket science. One person falling out doesn't mean excessive danger. It means carelessness

Did you read the article?

She didn't simply lean out of the aircraft, the door was practically closed and was then caught by a gust of wind. It flew open and she was dragged out since she was holding the handle.

Could have happened to the best of us.
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Wed May 09, 2012 4:32 am

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 38):
Maybe in the US but in Europe airlines are focussing on a thing called profit, so they do more things in less time. Did countless 25 minute turnarounds with A319's and 737's myself. In normal situations it's enough time, only in situations when you have wheelchair pax or no-shows with bags 25 minutes is a bit short, but it can still be done.

My record when it comes to turning a CRJ-200 is 16 minutes and that was with something like 50 pax coming in and 40 going out... Unless I am screaming and pushing people onto the plane (Which I don't ) I don't know how 25 minutes is enough time to turn a 737. I guess things do go significantly faster when you have pax boarding into 1L and deplaning out of 2L simultaneously.
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Wed May 09, 2012 7:33 am

At U2 when they still operated the B733 and B73G with integral airstairs, procedure was to crack the door slightly, then deploy the airstairs from the switch above the door on B733 or on the attendant panel above the crew seat on B73G. Once the steps were down, the door operator would open the door fully whilst holding on the assist handle. They would then need to step down a couple of the steps and attach the handrails on both sides of the door, which in U2 operation was perhaps the most dangerous part as the top 2/3 steps had no handrail and it was possible to maybe trip at that point and fall sideways off the steps, but you could hold onto the side of the door as you walked down.

When retracting the steps, the handrails were retrached onto the frame and locked, then the crew member would step back onboard and close the door, whilst holding the assist handle and leave just a crack whislt observing the retraction process. when the steps were fully stowed the door operator would then seal the door fully. (often requiring a slight swing out again, to get the momentum to plug the door back into the frame) .

I would often watch FR flights arrive on stand and no sooner than the brakes were set, the door would be flung open into nothingness and then the steps operated. In fact the first time I ever saw it, I thought they were initiating an evacualtion, as it was so sudden, the plane was was still doing that rocking motion you often see when they stop! Then they would observe step retraction from a f.ully open door, then have to lean out and grasp the door, which if you have no experience of is very heavy on 737. I think it is definitely at this point that FR crew are at their most vulnerable. I would often think that something would occur once day from this rather dubious procedure. In the end U2 did away with the airstairs on the B737 as they believed them to be a burden on engineering and the weight of the aircraft.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 8:12 am

Quoting ACEregular (Reply 42):
Then they would observe step retraction from a f.ully open door

That's not the procedure anymore. Haven't seen it like that in a good few years. If you watch any Ryanair step retraction or extension (as in the video posted above) the door is always just slightly cracked open when putting out or taking in the steps.
 
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Wed May 09, 2012 8:20 am

Quoting lucce (Reply 31):
The term stewardess is no longer used

KLM had/have an app on Facebook called "Stewardress yourself", end result wasn't pretty though...

Quoting nomadd22 (Reply 27):

Strange attitude, even if there are safer jobs, why should any job be unnecessary unsafe?
McDonalds added "Hot content" on their coffee cups after one lady burnt her lap, despite selling 100 million cups without injury. If there's an easy fix, do it, in this case a policy that clearly states that the safety has to be attached before closing the door. Cost nothing!
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Wed May 09, 2012 8:49 am

Quoting ACEregular (Reply 42):

I would often watch FR flights arrive on stand and no sooner than the brakes were set, the door would be flung open into nothingness and then the steps operated

Really? With FR i've only ever seen them crack the door, then operate the airstairs, not the door first
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Wed May 09, 2012 9:50 am

I've personally done hundreds of turnarounds of 738s of 20 minutes or less, since that's usually the scheduled ground time with most LCC I work with. 180 pax in and out is absolutely possible in 20 mins, even without rushing it and getting anyone hurt.
 
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Wed May 09, 2012 11:06 am

Quoting AirbusA370 (Reply 18):

Are the stairs an option on Ryan Air B737's...? I'm only guessing it is....

Quoting asctty (Reply 22):
Quoting CitationJet (Reply 28):

I have never understood why crew aren't required to wear some form of safety harness... EK crew open and close B777 doors for example with nil safety harness...

A woman died while servicing a B767 in BNE and now all high lift vehicles are fitted with safety harness and barriers...

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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Wed May 09, 2012 11:15 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 40):
She didn't simply lean out of the aircraft, the door was practically closed and was then caught by a gust of wind. It flew open and she was dragged out since she was holding the handle.

I am surprised that regulations allow to handle doors when a gust of wind may happen!   
 
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RE: Ryanair Hostess Falls Off Plane Onto Tarmac In GSE

Wed May 09, 2012 11:22 am

I suspect there will be an investigation by labor workplace and aircraft safety agencies of this serious injury to the FA in this incident. From the investigations there should be a determination where procedures in place were not followed or may have to be changed to improve the safety of FA's or other staff of all airlines that operate in Sweden as well as in the EC.

Perhaps too Ryanair, which does have a very good safety record, will have to make some internal changes even if adds another minute to their turnaround time to protect their employees. This could have happened, as noted in some other posts here, at other airlines in other places. No one should die or be injured at their workplace.

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