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Wed May 09, 2012 10:22 am

A Superjet SSJ-100 aircraft has been lost from radar screens during a demo flight, a russian blogger reports. https://twitter.com/#!/dolyasergey

A Russian news site http://lenta.ru/news/2012/05/09/jet/ also quoting him states that the plane was on a tour of Asian countries. The plane was supposed return after 30 mins. It has now been 3 hours and should have run out of fuel by now.

The source notes that an emergency beacon has not been set off, so there was still slight hope it might not have been crashed. However, a hijack scenario is being considered.
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Wed May 09, 2012 10:47 am

That is definitely not good news, lets hope they surface up... anything but a normal return (however unlikley at this point) would be very very unfortunate.

Hope it all finishes well...
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Wed May 09, 2012 10:49 am

Some more info;

http://avherald.com/h?article=44f464f7&opt=0

Damn, hopefully they turn up alive and well..
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Wed May 09, 2012 10:49 am

BBC News reporting the news... I'm very sad, what a terrible news!

Quote:
Russian passenger jet reported missing in Indonesia

A Russian Sukhoi Superjet 100 passenger plane with at least 44 people aboard has gone missing on a demonstration flight in Indonesia, reports say.

The plane disappeared from radar screens during a flight meant to last 30 minutes, a blogger with the Sukhoi delegation said.

Helicopters were dispatched to look for the jet, thought to have been flying near a mountain, Sergey Dolya said.

Emergency services confirmed a Sukhoi plane was missing.
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Wed May 09, 2012 10:51 am

Flightglobal says prototype 95005 was due to demo in Jakarta today.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 10:51 am

Very distressing news, I'm hoping there is still a good resolution   
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Wed May 09, 2012 10:54 am

Very bad for Sukhoi.

I hope all the best for the occupants.


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Wed May 09, 2012 10:56 am

Terrible news if it crashed, especially for a new program hoping to receive orders.

But hey, A320 also had an interesting start...
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:01 am

Sergey Dolya is on tour with Superjet, so you can check his blog, there some reports from previous days of his trip.

http://sergeydolya.livejournal.com/
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:04 am

Here are the pilots and Sky's stewardesses shortly before boarding the flight...



[Edited 2012-05-09 04:05:57]
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:07 am

There is a thread in an Indonesian aviation enthusiast site www.indoflyer.net discussing about this aircraft (link). There are pictures of it there. In the beginning it discussed about the aircraft. Then a member posted a news saying it had just crashed.

[Edited 2012-05-09 04:09:05]

[Edited 2012-05-09 04:17:25]
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:19 am

I hope they will be at least able to locate/recover the aircraft.

 

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There are 44 people on board, including eight Russians and 36 foreign nationals.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20120509/173333864.html

 
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:20 am

Quoting LH648 (Reply 8):
Sergey Dolya is on tour with Superjet, so you can check his blog, there some reports from previous days of his trip.

Sergey seems to have been very lucky indeed...

Quote:
Я не полетел, а остался снимать его с земли. Фотография сегодняшняя.

Roughly translated "I did not fly today, but chose to stay on the ground to photograph it. Photo is from today."
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:21 am

Ooops, sorry, Sky's stewardesses were on board during the first flight, during the second flight, when the plane have disappeared, there where representatives of Batavia, Pelita, Air Aviastar, Sriwijaya Air airlines.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:28 am

Quoting jamesontheroad (Reply 12):
Roughly translated "I did not fly today, but chose to stay on the ground to photograph it. Photo is from today."

Allmost correct, he was onboard during the first demo flight.

There was an avia photographer as well, she left on the ground during the second flight, Marina Lystseva, you can check her blog and twitter as well:
http://fotografersha.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/#!/lystseva
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:32 am

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6308/414616.d2/0_8d04b_386171e4_XXL
Sergey Dolya and The Captain.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:32 am

Terrible news indeed, hoping the best for the passengers.  
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:35 am

Info from Dolya: Rescue Helicopter returned without finding anything. It's dark already in Indonesia, so he will not fly again, they are sending cars to the mountains now.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:37 am

I'm amazingly shocked about this!
I just woke up, check out Twitter as usually and I face up with this!
This are truly bad news, specially for a recent program.
I like a lot that jet. Not my favorite one, but it looks great!
We just have to wait for more info.
I don't think this will end well.  
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:38 am

Reg. number 95004, btw.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:39 am

NO ELT signal.....So it could be a transponder issue.....Hopefully.......presuming they landed someplace.......
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:41 am

Just heard S&R operation has been suspended due to nightfall.

I know it is speculation, but does it seem like it may of crashed into one of the mountains there. Crew requested and cleared to descend to 6000 feet, in the vicinity of Mount Salak (7354 feet high).
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:42 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 20):

NO ELT signal.....So it could be a transponder issue

Plane would of run out of fuel by now and hasn't been reported at any airport in the area, sadly.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:46 am

I used google translation (use Chrome to visit this URL and then have it auto translate (or, use google to translate ..)

Did the pilots ask for reduction in altitude in an area that was already at high elevation? (10K to 6K) ?

For russian readers, please translate this news item for us: http://www.ria.ru/incidents/20120509/644817138.html

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Wed May 09, 2012 11:46 am

Quoting LH648 (Reply 19):
Reg. number 95004, btw.

No. It's 97004.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:50 am

This is terrible news!

Im still hoping for the best
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:57 am

Very sad news, let's hope for the best...
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:57 am

Quoting boacvc10 (Reply 23):
For russian readers, please translate this news item for us: http://www.ria.ru/incidents/20120509....html

It doesn't contain any newer info than we have already in this thread, except that the plane requested 6000 feet altitude in the area with a mountain standing 6200 feet high. Shortly afterwards the radio comms were lost.

From the text it sounds like this was a third flight for the day. Previous two demo flights were with Sky Aviation FAs on board and Batavia, Pelita, Air Aviastar, Sriwijaya Air reps.
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Wed May 09, 2012 12:02 pm

How terrible. I really hope that it's managed to land at some airstrip or something, unlikely I know, but we can hope.
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Wed May 09, 2012 12:09 pm

Quoting Sasha (Reply 27):

It doesn't contain any newer info than we have already in this thread, except that the plane requested 6000 feet altitude in the area with a mountain standing 6200 feet high. Shortly afterwards the radio comms were lost.

This are terrible new!

I hope they haven't crashed directly to a mountain. Shouldn't the GPWS prevent that?
Hope the crew and passangers are well.
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Wed May 09, 2012 12:16 pm

Very sad news indeed. It was one of my favourite planes. I just can't believe that it crashed (probably). I hope the flight crew and passengers are alive  
Quoting LH648 (Reply 9):

Here are the pilots and Sky's stewardesses shortly before boarding the flight...

This photo gives me goosebumps...
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Wed May 09, 2012 12:21 pm

No no no no no nooooo....what a way to start the day here....prayers and hope for the best is the only thing I can think now.
Until the S&R don't find a wreckage there is still some hope ( I know is fading every minute, but still... ), a hijacking, even a crash landing with survivors is a good scenario in this circumstances...

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Wed May 09, 2012 12:22 pm

Too early to speculate of course, but I think it's remarkable that most Russian planes suffer an accident or two in the early years, either in the test phase (Il-62, An-70, Tu-134), demonstrating (Tu-144 in Paris, An-148 to the Myanmese, now the SSJ probably) or in early service (An-140, Yak-42). Maybe Russian pilots are more tempted to try and fly their aircraft outside its specifications.
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Wed May 09, 2012 12:31 pm

If they have crashed, I hope they ditched somewhere and they are all alive. A crash is always dreadful, this especially poignant as there are images of the crew and people onboard the plane taken literally hours ago.

Terrible news but really hoping for the best.
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Wed May 09, 2012 12:36 pm

Damn, it just seems like it is going to end up being CFIT ... it's so damn senseless ....
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 12:41 pm

I pray for all aboard and their familes...
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Wed May 09, 2012 12:49 pm

Very sad to hear that. Sukhoi super jet Registartion 97005 was here at Karachi for demo flight but it was cancelled due to first officer sick. On Sunday another sukhoi airplane arrived here for one night only. I want to know was this the same aircraft? When did it arrive in Indonesia for demo?
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Wed May 09, 2012 12:49 pm

Quoting SeeTheWorld (Reply 34):

Agree with you... it sure sounds that way. Here's hoping for survivors, though if what you're thinking is correct the chances are not too great  

[Edited 2012-05-09 05:50:13]
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Wed May 09, 2012 12:54 pm

Quoting zainmax (Reply 36):
When did it arrive in Indonesia for demo?

Arrived on 9 May 2012.

The aircraft in the event was earlier reported to be 97004.

[Edited 2012-05-09 05:55:34]
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Wed May 09, 2012 12:57 pm

Quoting btblue (Reply 33):
If they have crashed, I hope they ditched somewhere and they are all alive.

I'm not sure what the geography is like in the area, but I would have thought at least one of the survivors would have a mobile phone and be able to notify someone.

Quoting SeeTheWorld (Reply 34):
Damn, it just seems like it is going to end up being CFIT ... it's so damn senseless ....

I think this is the most likely - it is one of the few causes that can explain why there was no mayday call.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 1:04 pm

Al Jazeera is reporting that the pilots "radioed a distress message" before the crash. I haven't seen other news outlets reporting this, and the AJE report doesn't exactly cite their source, either. Take it for what it's worth.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-p...fic/2012/05/20125910428596384.html
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 1:06 pm

Some media here in Chile reporting on board are members of Indonesia's Ministry of Transport, local airline's executives and members of the Russian Embassy in Jakarta. 38 passengers from Indonesia, 8 Russians ( Embassy personal+crew), 46 total.

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Wed May 09, 2012 1:07 pm

Skyliner Aviation are confirming the crash.

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=4
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 1:08 pm

Just appeared via Twitter that the crash site is found by the SAR, no info about survivors. Terrible.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 1:09 pm

Given the SSJ-100 may have a terrain warning feature (standard on most modern airliners nowadays), it may not be a CFIT, especially if the al-Jazzera report of a distress radio call is correct.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 1:10 pm

Quoting audidudi (Reply 42):
Skyliner Aviation are confirming the crash

As much as I respect Skyliner, in this case I am 100% sure they just assume it's crashed killing all on board but they don't have independent sources for this, more then any of us who reload news sites every 10 minutes hoping for some (good) news.
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Wed May 09, 2012 1:11 pm

Quoting nighthawk (Reply 39):
I'm not sure what the geography is like in the area, but I would have thought at least one of the survivors would have a mobile phone and be able to notify someone.

Since it was mentioned earlier that there was a 6200 feet mountain in the area, it is doubtful that cellphone coverage would be adequate, unless cell towers were installed in several spots around the mountain to cover all of its sides.
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Wed May 09, 2012 1:20 pm

Jakarta Post reporting that locals 'saw and heard of a roaring engine like an aircraft' at 3 p.m...

Weather in the area: heavy pouring rain with thick fog.

"The locals saw the plane in the area of Curug Nangka Tamansari. The area location was between 700-800 meters above the sea level."

Based on that, it doesn't look good.

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Wed May 09, 2012 1:21 pm

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 45):
As much as I respect Skyliner, in this case I am 100% sure they just assume it's crashed killing all on board but they don't have independent sources for this, more then any of us who reload news sites every 10 minutes hoping for some (good) news.

Especially considering they are already reporting 44/44 dead, it seems a bit premature (though likely correct, unfortunately). Too bad.

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Wed May 09, 2012 1:28 pm

wow hope that everybody in that plane be ok

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