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AA Announces New Long-haul Product

Wed May 09, 2012 4:58 pm

American Airlines today finally confirmed its new long-haul product. The new coach and business class products previously confirmed for the 777-300ER fleet will also roll out on to the 777-200ER fleet starting next year. The 772s will no longer have a First Class cabin as part of the retrofit.

Roughly half the 767-300ER fleet will also get a new J product; as the other half will be retired as 787s are delivered. The seat has not been officially announced yet, but as the 777 seat can't fit properly in the 763, it is assured it will not be that.

Details were otherwise pretty scarce, though I am told there will be two 772 configurations, a low-density with more J seats for more premium markets and a high-density with more Y seats for vacation markets.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/americ...ernational-widebody-155200548.html

And while this is also not confirmed, I had earlier heard the removal of 772's F cabin is a strong indication that the 789 fleet will indeed be getting an F cabin.
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Wed May 09, 2012 5:03 pm

Mostly very smart movies, and not unexpected - sad to see the 777s losing F, but it makes sense given new realities. Interesting that they are only going to upgrade about half the 767 fleet - but again makes sense with 787s likely arriving soon. Unfortunate they still aren't going to put in-seat AVOD on the 767s - such a cheap way to go.

AA should have done this five years ago, but with this move, AA's longhaul premium offerings will now be generally quite competitive among U.S. carriers (at least from what I have seen/experienced).



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Wed May 09, 2012 5:05 pm

Good news all around- hopefully we'll see the 772 in some markets currently flown with the 763, like DFW-CDG/MAD/FRA, MIA-MAD, JFK-CDG. This was a no-brainer- so few actually pay for F, it makes sense to offer an improved B/C. F/C was basically a combination of upgrades for a lucky few and an employee cafeteria at 37,000 feet.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 5:08 pm

Quoting NYCAAer (Reply 2):
Good news all around- hopefully we'll see the 772 in some markets currently flown with the 763, like DFW-CDG/MAD/FRA, MIA-MAD, JFK-CDG. This was a no-brainer- so few actually pay for F, it makes sense to offer an improved B/C. F/C was basically a combination of upgrades for a lucky few and an employee cafeteria at 37,000 feet.

   Completely agree on all counts.

I suspect once the 777-300ERs, and then 787s, start to arrive, that is going to create a domino/chain reaction for reshuffling the rest of the longhaul fleet, with 777s starting to show up in plenty more high-density longhaul markets where the F cabin was simply too much. I definitely think CDG, MAD, possibly FRA, and possibly even FCO could all be candidates for a J/Y 777.

And yes - while it is sad to see F go on the 777s, it does make sense given the economic realities of the day, and besides, at least from the renderings, the new J looks almost as nice as the Flagship Suite anyway.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 5:09 pm

I hope RDU-LHR goes 787....
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Wed May 09, 2012 5:13 pm

The rumored high-density 772 is perfect for markets like Italy, Spain and Rio de Janeiro, and even some medium-haul markets like Lima and Bogota. AA has needed this type of high-density plane for a while. It could also open up new doors for flying, especially in Miami-Europe.
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Wed May 09, 2012 5:26 pm

The video uploaded by AA on this subject is interesting.

They refer to the 77W on order as "the NEW 777-300."

I find the "we're the only airline to offer personal Samsung Galaxy Tabs" bit to be annoying, as well. That might wow most of the general public, but it really just shows that they're too cheap to invest in a "true" in-seat IFE system.
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RE: AA Announces New Long-haul Product

Wed May 09, 2012 5:27 pm

Here is the official press release: http://aa.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=3507

B767-300ER: 28J, 14Y+, 167Y (total = 209)
B777-200ER: up to 45J, up to 45Y+ and up to 170Y.

It says that all the seats in the 772 will be new, but nothing about the Y seats in the 763.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 5:32 pm

"The redesign is slated to begin in early 2014.  American is currently working to determine the installation timeline and will have more details on anticipated completion dates in the future."

2014? That seems a long time to wait...
 
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RE: AA Announces New Long-haul Product

Wed May 09, 2012 5:45 pm

Quoting ghifty (Reply 6):
I find the "we're the only airline to offer personal Samsung Galaxy Tabs" bit to be annoying, as well. That might wow most of the general public, but it really just shows that they're too cheap to invest in a "true" in-seat IFE system.

If the tab has a "slot" of sorts that integrates it into the seat, then I don't have a problem with it because that's the best of both worlds right there. Otherwise, agreed.
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Wed May 09, 2012 5:51 pm

BK protection int this country is very interesting, on one hand we employees of airlines cost too much money and we are driving a company to the ground but on the other hand the company releases a statement saying they are spending billions on XYZ.

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Wed May 09, 2012 5:55 pm

My guess is that the 767 flat-bed seats will be the Thompson Vantage, considering all seats will have direct aisle access.

As for the 777 flat-bed seats, I know they will be the Cirrus model, but does anyone know if they will be the Sicma version (as on CX and US) or the Weber version (as on DL)? I think it would make sense to go with the Weber version since Sicma mostly caters to customers outside the United States, plus the Y seats will be Weber 5751s. When US ordered their Cirrus seats, the Weber version wasn't available yet.
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Wed May 09, 2012 5:56 pm

Quoting ghifty (Reply 6):
I find the "we're the only airline to offer personal Samsung Galaxy Tabs" bit to be annoying, as well. That might wow most of the general public, but it really just shows that they're too cheap to invest in a "true" in-seat IFE system.

I disagree. Tablets are the future. More personalized. Less weight. Quick to implement. Wired infrastructure for entertainment is on the way out. WiFi and personal entertainment devices are in.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:05 pm

Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 12):
I disagree. Tablets are the future. More personalized. Less weight. Quick to implement. Wired infrastructure for entertainment is on the way out. WiFi and personal entertainment devices are in.

And I would disagree with you; many people don't want the hassle of unpacking and having their tablet or laptop taking up space. Plus, the battery life isn't the same for all tablets/laptops. Only about 1 out of 10 people in the United States own tablet computers, and unless airlines give huge incentives for everyone to buy tablets, I don't see in-seat IFE systems going away.
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RE: AA Announces New Long-haul Product

Wed May 09, 2012 6:08 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Details were otherwise pretty scarce, though I am told there will be two 772 configurations, a low-density with more J seats for more premium markets and a high-density with more Y seats for vacation markets.

I'm told only one 772 configuration. The up to 45 J seats is because the seat plan still has to be finalized and the exact number will be around that figure.

763 will be as announced.

787s will be in a 3 class configuration.

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Wed May 09, 2012 6:13 pm

Quoting chepos (Reply 10):
BK protection int this country is very interesting, on one hand we employees of airlines cost too much money and we are driving a company to the ground but on the other hand the company releases a statement saying they are spending billions on XYZ.

A good product drives revenue, especially in premium cabins. AA cannot afford to have a product that is vastly sub-par to its joint-venture and oneworld partners. The plus side is, AA will once again be infront of its peers product wise on its widebody fleet. It is quite refreshing to see AA give importance to this again, as it had been swept aside for the past few years.

Obviously, if this didn't hold true, you would see airlines installing wooden benches throughout their fleets.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:15 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 13):
And I would disagree with you; many people don't want the hassle of unpacking and having their tablet or laptop taking up space. Plus, the battery life isn't the same for all tablets/laptops. Only about 1 out of 10 people in the United States own tablet computers, and unless airlines give huge incentives for everyone to buy tablets, I don't see in-seat IFE systems going away.

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Wed May 09, 2012 6:15 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
The rumored high-density 772 is perfect for markets like Italy, Spain and Rio de Janeiro

Let's see is AA finAAly uses the 772 on the MIA-GIG routing.
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:22 pm

Pardon my ignorance but was there a firming up of the 787's that I apparently missed?? Did they go with -8's or -9's??
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:25 pm

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 16):
One thing a tablet can't replace: the functionality of the moving map systems 

Why not? If the airlines are putting WiFi systems on the plane, that could probably be very easily incorporated as a featured "channel" or something.
 
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RE: AA Announces New Long-haul Product

Wed May 09, 2012 6:31 pm

I was just reading an article on this! Overall it sounds like a good idea to refresh the cabins and remove some FC for routes that don't demand an FC product. Business class these days is very close to first anyway! I also think the 3-3-3 configuration on the 777s in economy is better. I have a family member who is an AA F/A and I hope this is a sign of more prosperous and stable times at AA for her and all the other employees.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:31 pm

Quoting runway23 (Reply 15):
The plus side is, AA will once again be infront of its peers product wise on its widebody fleet.

Exactly which part of the new J would be "in front of peers" ? Even US's Envoy on 330s got flatbed before AA. Both DL and UA are more than 50% (my guess is closer to 75%) completed with their flat-bed conversion, while AA is still waiting for the first one to roll off.

DL has both outward and reverse herringbone in their fleet IIRC, so 1-2-1 every-seat-aisle-access is not AA unique either.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:43 pm

Is there confirmation of the Y-class configuration on the 777's? Is it 9-abreast -- 3-3-3 or 2-5-2 -- or 10-abreast ?
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:51 pm

Quoting quiet1 (Reply 22):

Is there confirmation of the Y-class configuration on the 777's? Is it 9-abreast -- 3-3-3 or 2-5-2 -- or 10-abreast ?

The official pictures on facebook look like a very good chance of 3-4-3, but certain posters here insist there's still a shred of hope as long as the plane hasn't left PAE.

Confirmation? None officially. 9-abreast? Definitely not holding my breath.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 6:57 pm

This is a smart move for the 777. The seating product will be very similar to the seats used by USAir in their A330 which will help create some product continuity once they take over (I mean 'if' they take over).

I'm guessing they will be using a seat similar to Delta's for the 767. It's too bad they're following their old bad habits and going on the cheap with tablets instead of real IFE (especially in business).
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 7:05 pm

I'm sad to see the Flagship Suites go away on the 772. I just flew one from JFK-EZE and loved the privacy and direct aisle access. I hope they use the 77W on the long routes like DFW-NRT/EZE, JFK-HND/EZE. Looking forward to the new J class on the 763 - they are in need of an update.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 7:11 pm

Quoting klkla (Reply 24):
This is a smart move for the 777. The seating product will be very similar to the seats used by USAir in their A330 which will help create some product continuity once they take over (I mean 'if' they take over).

A BMW is not similar to a Chevy... AA opted for the BMW version of the Cirrus Seat.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 7:22 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 13):
And I would disagree with you; many people don't want the hassle of unpacking and having their tablet or laptop taking up space. Plus, the battery life isn't the same for all tablets/laptops. Only about 1 out of 10 people in the United States own tablet computers, and unless airlines give huge incentives for everyone to buy tablets, I don't see in-seat IFE systems going away.

The tablets will be handed out by the airlines. A basic inexpensive tablet loaded with movies, games and other apps would be a lot more effecient than a fully wired infrastructure. If they can sling drinks and food, they can distribute tablets. Forward thinking.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 7:27 pm

Well, if we add the number of seats they are saying it could go up to in MC, I would think it will be 10 across. Its going from 194 in coach to up to 45 Y+ and up to 170 Y seats thats 215. Its not looking good for 9 across in Y I'd say. The key here is "up to", that doesn't help at all.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 8:11 pm

Quoting aacun (Reply 28):
Its going from 194 in coach to up to 45 Y+ and up to 170 Y seats thats 215. Its not looking good for 9 across in Y I'd say. The key here is "up to", that doesn't help at all.

But remember no first class, so a fair amount of those business class seats will be between 1 L/R and 2 L/R, allowing more room for additional Y+/Y seats.

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RE: AA Announces New Long-haul Product

Wed May 09, 2012 8:49 pm

Also...

"Plus, our entire fleet of 777-200ERs and 777-300ERs will have inflight Wi-Fi so you can stay connected on your international trip"
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 9:09 pm

Quoting aacun (Reply 28):

Well, if we add the number of seats they are saying it could go up to in MC, I would think it will be 10 across. Its going from 194 in coach to up to 45 Y+ and up to 170 Y seats thats 215. Its not looking good for 9 across in Y I'd say. The key here is "up to", that doesn't help at all.

You are forgetting the deletion of F. That is a monster space eater for only 16 seats. It can easily fit five, maybe six, rows of J, so that's at least 30 J seats before we even get to the current J cabin.

That said, absolutely I'm sure AA is considering 10 abreast. It would be stupid not too.

Also, the 772 and 77W seats will be similar, but not identical, with the 772 getting a "better" seat, likely an updated version of the 77W seat, possible since there is more lead-in time and there is no F cabin.

[Edited 2012-05-09 14:17:15]
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Wed May 09, 2012 9:09 pm

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 18):

Yeah, I would like to know the answer o that one as well.

I assume the 77W will completely replace the 772 on the JFK - LHR route?
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 9:14 pm

They could add a donation box at each door so people who enjoyed their flights can help them get out of bankruptcy faster   
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 9:16 pm

Quoting NYCAAer (Reply 2):

LOL. So true. It was mostly the only way to ever get back to base after a long international trip! I found it most bizarre that one could literally check in at 3hours with a D2 and get an F seat for the ORD-LGA shuttles. Or, even F on the 777 ORD-DFW repo'.

Im glad to see AA reworking their operation with such force! If only they could have done this years ago..... sigh....
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 9:18 pm

Quoting DAL763ER (Reply 33):
They could add a donation box at each door so people who enjoyed their flights can help them get out of bankruptcy faster

Kind of like the donation box that NK is adding to show your thanks for being allowed to bring your carry-on luggage on board.
 
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RE: AA Announces New Long-haul Product

Wed May 09, 2012 9:31 pm

I think the tablets present a lot of problems of their own.

How are they going to make sure that the tablets don't depart the plane? How will they charge the tablets? Where will they be kept when not in use? Who's going to troubleshoot the inevitable problems when people can't get on WiFi, or the battery is not charged when they're handed out. How will they make sure that people don't install undesirable apps from the Android Market, (err sorry Google Play Store as they're calling it now),

I would say a.nutters are pretty technically sophisticated in general, but the general flying public? Not so much.

There's something to be said for hardwired infrastructure that doesn't need to be charged. It's a little different in airplanes due to the weight, but still. This business model of doing IFE with WiFi tablets will require far more tinkering than a built-in IFE system.

I guess we'll see how well it works out in practice.
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Wed May 09, 2012 9:53 pm

Quoting NYCAAer (Reply 2):
Good news all around- hopefully we'll see the 772 in some markets currently flown with the 763,

That's almost certain. And AA probably does need such a plane for some leisure heavy European routes as well as some of the South American and Caribbean routes formerly flown by the A300.

Quoting ghifty (Reply 6):
I find the "we're the only airline to offer personal Samsung Galaxy Tabs" bit to be annoying, as well. That might wow most of the general public, but it really just shows that they're too cheap to invest in a "true" in-seat IFE system.

Actually, just the opposite. AA is ahead of the curve on IFE. The future is onboard wi-fi and everyone brings their own device. Even the best AVOD systems might have maybe a hundred movies and some TV shows, but with wi-fi, you can watch whatever you want. And then the plane no longer needs the weight and maintenance headaches of being wired up for IFE. Offering tablets to passengers is a logical intermediate step.
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Wed May 09, 2012 9:56 pm

Long overdue!!!! Something VERY positive from AA!!! BrAAvo!!!!  
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 10:06 pm

Quoting brons2 (Reply 36):
How are they going to make sure that the tablets don't depart the plane? How will they charge the tablets? Where will they be kept when not in use? Who's going to troubleshoot the inevitable problems when people can't get on WiFi, or the battery is not charged when they're handed out. How will they make sure that people don't install undesirable apps from the Android Market, (err sorry Google Play Store as they're calling it now),

These are not new problems. AA has been handing out some form of IFE since the mid-1990s, when they used some sort of ancient tape system. Then it switched to portable DVD players, then Archos hard-drive units and now Samsung tablets.
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Wed May 09, 2012 10:13 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 39):
These are not new problems. AA has been handing out some form of IFE since the mid-1990s, when they used some sort of ancient tape system. Then it switched to portable DVD players, then Archos hard-drive units and now Samsung tablets.

But this is just for the Business cabin. The problem would increase greatly if you expand it to include enough units for every seat on the aircraft. I don't know if the relay panel could take it.
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Wed May 09, 2012 10:13 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 39):

Delta is doing the sasme thing for the remodeled 747 flights to Asia. IIRC.
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 10:16 pm

I am sad to see the lost of Flagship suites on the 772 but at the same time, AA is replacing these awful sliding business class seats with a very good Cirrus Business class seats. I think that is acceptable especially I rarely pay for AA F and when I fly AA F, I often used my VIPOW to upgrade to F.

In terms of catering, AA two-class premium business service is similar to AA first class anyway... the sundae cart is still here and that does not matter much. But I hope this refreshing also means new menu items and more importantly, please change your menus more frequently. I don't think I am asking AA too much to come up with new menu every three to four months, and the pre-arrival meals need a major revamp. Those pizzas are not good and salads are too fatty and sweet. BBQ Chicken salad looks sad with those sickening red sauce.

I like the business class bar area.

Good to see AA finally catching up with the rest of the US major airlines.

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Wed May 09, 2012 10:24 pm

Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 41):
Delta is doing the sasme thing for the remodeled 747 flights to Asia. IIRC.

No, DL's remodeled 747s have built-in AVOD in both J and Y.
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Wed May 09, 2012 10:29 pm

All I can say from this announcement is that I'm going to be using my United card a lot more as well as flying them more too. I fly AA (as an elite too) since they offer much better in advance premium seating (first or business specifically to NRT). However I imagine that with (up to 45 J) that they are going to severely restrict availability for redemption. Unless UA reacts in a similar fashion, I'd rather fly them as they at least 90% have availability in premium 2-4 days before departure. Too bad I can't match UA to AA like AA did for UA.  
 
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Wed May 09, 2012 10:39 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 31):
Also, the 772 and 77W seats will be similar, but not identical, with the 772 getting a "better" seat, likely an updated version of the 77W seat, possible since there is more lead-in time and there is no F cabin.

What will be the configs for the 787 and 77W?
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Wed May 09, 2012 10:46 pm

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 45):
What will be the configs for the 787 and 77W?

Far too early to tell on the 787, but it is expected to get an F cabin.

The 77W is rumored to be 8F/50J/30Y+/220Y, but that assumes AA goes with 10-abreast in Y, and no decision has been made (though it's somewhat safe to assume it will be at least 8F/50J/30Y+).
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Wed May 09, 2012 10:55 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
If the tab has a "slot" of sorts that integrates it into the seat, then I don't have a problem with it because that's the best of both worlds right there. Otherwise, agreed.

Yes, a slot would be nice.

Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 12):
I disagree. Tablets are the future. More personalized. Less weight. Quick to implement. Wired infrastructure for entertainment is on the way out. WiFi and personal entertainment devices are in.

I agree they're more personalized. At home anyways. I don't see the need for personalisation in flight. "Look, I can change my background?" "Look, I changed my notification sounds?" Personalization works at home, but is entirely pointless on an airplane, or any mode of "public" transportation.

Until tablets are more integrated with the hard product, I will aptly be against them. The trip reports on here with DigEX players sitting on the tray tables with headphone jacks sprawled everywhere are not very appealing, and do not do a good job of representing such airline's brand images. Tablets, in their present form, seem random and add clutter. Not to mention the job of keeping them maintained/working. Children will scratch them up, drop them, spill stuff on them, etc.

Like MAH4546 said, a mounting system would be ideal.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 37):
The future is onboard wi-fi and everyone brings their own device. Even the best AVOD systems might have maybe a hundred movies and some TV shows, but with wi-fi, you can watch whatever you want. And then the plane no longer needs the weight and maintenance headaches of being wired up for IFE. Offering tablets to passengers is a logical intermediate step.

I didn't say anything about Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi is huge. It's impossible to argue against it. It doesn't require any extra effort from the passengers or the crew to use, it's just... there. A tablet is different. FIrst of all, the elimination of maintenance and needing to be "wired" won't happen. These tablets aren't bricks that can survive constant beating, much like the IFE. Additionally, they need to be charged... and catalogued... and distributed... and collected... and troubleshooted. They might cut costs, but they'll just be a headache.

Anyways, if most people (or "everyone") bring their own device what's the point in giving out tablets? Just give free Wi-Fi. The only reason I'm poking away on my IFE on a Delta flight isn't because I don't have a tablet, or laptop, or iPod, or mobile phone... it's because I, like a decent amount of people, don't have access to X amount of movies. Wi-Fi or not, I won't be streaming movies/shows.. but IFE gives me that ability. For free. Generally.
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RE: AA Announces New Long-haul Product

Wed May 09, 2012 11:09 pm

Quoting ghifty (Reply 47):
I don't see the need for personalisation in flight.

You've got to be kidding. You're on a plane with wi-fi and you have your tablet or computer, your work, your movies, your music, your games, etc. It's all your stuff. What's better than that?

Quoting ghifty (Reply 47):
Children will scratch them up, drop them, spill stuff on them, etc.

The airlines providing such things will be temporary. Before too long everyone will just bring their own.

Quoting ghifty (Reply 47):
These tablets aren't bricks that can survive constant beating, much like the IFE. Additionally, they need to be charged... and catalogued... and distributed... and collected... and troubleshooted. They might cut costs, but they'll just be a headache.

But far less of a headache than screens wired into seats.

Quoting ghifty (Reply 47):
Anyways, if most people (or "everyone") bring their own device what's the point in giving out tablets?

There isn't any. That's just the bridge. The future of IFE is having in flight internet and bringing your own device. Really, IFE will stop being IFE and just be the things we all use anyway.

Quoting ghifty (Reply 47):
Just give free Wi-Fi

That's exactly where all of this is going. There is no reason for the airline to provide a screen, hardwired or otherwise.
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RE: AA Announces New Long-haul Product

Wed May 09, 2012 11:20 pm

So are MIA-LHR/GRU/EZE going 773 or 789?
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