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Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Sat May 12, 2012 3:42 am




THE CENTRAL AMERICAN AVIATION THREAD
PART XLVIII

"Tribute to LADECO in Central America"

LADECO which was an acronym of Lineas Aereas del Cobre was a Chilean airline that began operations to Central America during the early 90s.
I think the former LAN Chile served Panama City some years before, but the credit for LADECO consisted in the discovery of the untapped market between Central America and Santiago de Chile. For example in 1993, when LADECO flew to Central America, neither LACSA nor COPA sustained flights to Chile, if I recall correctly. Once LADECO was purchased by LAN Chile, their operations ceased in the isthmus and the market was overtaken by CM PTY-SCL, LR SJO-LIM-SCL and LR SJO-PTY-LIM-SCL around the mid 90s.
CM PTY-SCL goes from 21x to 28x weekly in June, in conjunction with [TA/LR SJO-LIM-SCL 7x weekly + TA LIM-SCL 3x weekly]. The legacy of LADECO 20 years ago undoubtedly contributed to the consolidation of this sector.



Operations of LADECO in Central America:
UC [SCL-ARI**-SJO-MEX] 1x weekly, 733: 1993
UC [SCL-GYE-SJO-MEX] 1x weekly, 733: 1993
UC [SCL-GYE-GUA-MEX] 1x weekly, 733: 1993
UC [SCL-BOG-PTY] 2x weekly, 733, 1993
UC [SCL-IQQ**-SJO-MEX] 1x weekly, 733: 1994
UC [SCL-BOG-SJO-MEX] 1x weekly, 733: 1994
UC [SCL-BOG-GUA] 2x weekly, 733: 1994
**Sometimes both Arica and Iquique were utilized as technical stops.

Welcome everyone to the 48th installment of the Central American commercial aviation series !
The thread is now open for comments and discussions.


Edited on May 11th 2012.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Sat May 12, 2012 4:53 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Thread starter):
I think the former LAN Chile served Panama City some years before, but the credit for LADECO consisted in the discovery of the untapped market between Central America and Santiago de Chile.

LAN Chile did serve PTY for a number of years. Unfortunately, LADECO went into BK just after it discovered the "untapped market" between Central America and Chile.

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Thread starter):
For example in 1993, when LADECO flew to Central America, neither LACSA nor COPA sustained flights to Chile, if I recall correctly. Once LADECO was purchased by LAN Chile, their operations ceased in the isthmus and the market was overtaken by CM PTY-SCL, LR SJO-LIM-SCL and LR SJO-PTY-LIM-SCL around the mid 90s.

LADECO became LAN Express after LAN Chile acquired the airline in 1994 and operated only domestic flights with-in Chile. All international routes were cut with the exception of one route, the SCL-GRU-GIG route, which LAN still operates today! LADECO's IATA code UC was transferred to LAN Cargo S.A., which currently serves the Central American cities of GUA, PTY and SJO.

N312LA At SJO:

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Sat May 12, 2012 1:22 pm

I do remember Ladeco operating in Guatemala with a 757 also. Thanks for bringing back some memories.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Sat May 12, 2012 1:45 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 1):
LAN Chile did serve PTY for a number of years

What I didn't remember is when the former LAN Chile dropped their regular flights in Panama City.




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Quoting juanchito (Reply 2):
I do remember Ladeco operating in Guatemala with a 757

Wow, I didn't know that.
I always thought the 733 was its sole equipment utilized in Central America.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Sat May 12, 2012 5:04 pm

Some pictures from yesterdays Convair C580 incident in GUA

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Sat May 12, 2012 9:27 pm

Quoting juanchito (Reply 4):
Convair C580 incident in GUA

Yikes.. apparently the port side (left) propeller hit the runway, then sheared off and penetrated the fuselage.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Sun May 13, 2012 1:44 am

this convair unfortunately might be a write-off
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Sun May 13, 2012 3:22 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 3):
What I didn't remember is when the former LAN Chile dropped their regular flights in Panama City.

If I'm not mistaken one of its last passenger routes to PTY must have been SCL-PTY-LAX in the early 80's. I believe it probably was a B707.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Sun May 13, 2012 5:07 am

TACA has already loaded the schedule for the San Salvador - Cali service:

TA 297.......SAL 19:35.........CLO 23:35........Tu, Th, Su
TA 296.......CLO 06:00.........SAL 07:50.........Mo, We, Fr
Effective: July 01st

Source: amadeus.net

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Tue May 15, 2012 9:04 pm

Hey 2travel2know2 in the previous thread you were talking about building an international airport in Guápiles.. here's what the landslide–prone highway to the Caribbean coast (CR32) looks like this afternoon with the rainy season barely getting started..

— image taken from La Nación
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Tue May 15, 2012 11:15 pm

Quoting viaggiare (Reply 9):
Hey 2travel2know2 in the previous thread you were talking about building an international airport in Guápiles.. here's what the landslide–prone highway to the Caribbean coast (CR32) looks like this afternoon with the rainy season barely getting started..

Rest my case
  
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Wed May 16, 2012 2:41 am

AV/TA grouping is announcing healthy results in their operations during the first quarter [1Q] of the year as shown:

Operational profits: $ 1900 000 millions; growth of 18% regarding the 1Q of 2011.
Net profits: $ 63 000 millions; $ 44 000 millions in 1Q of 2011.
Increase of passengers compared to 1Q of 2011: 16%

The press release states that their subsidiaries were included in the analysis.



Full source: http://www.larepublica.com.co/node/10278


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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Wed May 16, 2012 1:27 pm

I've just noticed that TA is announcing SAL as tourist destination on the local radio.
1st time ever I hear a TA radio ad. Don't know if TA is having yield problems with its SAL-PTY flights.
Usually when an airline places radio ads here, it has to do with poor loads and need for heavy promotion.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Wed May 16, 2012 4:12 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 12):
Don't know if TA is having yield problems with its SAL-PTY flights


TA SAL-PTY 7x weekly was justified for the operations of CM PTY-SAL which is flying as 14x weekly at this time.
I think it's not strategic for TA the demise of PTY-SAL, taking into account how Copa Airlines is serving dedicated flights to San Salvador.
By the way, no more CM PTY-MGA-SAL.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Wed May 16, 2012 4:34 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 11):
$ 1900 000 millions (...) $ 63 000 millions; $ 44 000 millions

To lessen any confusion, those are pesos colombianos and Col$1 = US$0.000557 at the current exchange rate.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Fri May 18, 2012 2:38 am

TACA will drop the San Salvador - Chicago O'Hare non-stop service.
Flights to Chicago will continue as TA SAL-GUA-ORD 4x weekly.

TA 586.........SAL 14:52..........ORD 20:42.........Mo, Fr..........320
TA 587.........ORD 09:45........SAL 13:25...........Tu, Sa..........320
Discontinued from June 17th.




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Quoting viaggiare (Reply 14):
those are pesos colombianos and Col$1 = US$0.000557 at the current exchange rate

Simple math:

Net profits on AV/TA for the 1Q 2012: $COP 63 000 000 000 * US$0,000557= US$35 091 000

One brand new 320 is roughly US$ 50 000 000 and AV/TA signed a purchase agreement in January 2012 for 33 [320 Neos] and eighteen 320 family aircraft.


Perhaps their investment plans were already taken into account and the purchase of the new aircrafts might not depend on the results reported in the net income.


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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Sat May 19, 2012 7:05 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 15):
One brand new 320 is roughly US$ 50 000 000 and AV/TA signed a purchase agreement in January 2012 for 33 [320 Neos] and eighteen 320 family aircraft.

Perhaps their investment plans were already taken into account and the purchase of the new aircrafts might not depend on the results reported in the net income.

Or in a worst–case scenario they could work out a sale–and–leaseback transaction a la señor Kriete with USA–based lessors.. it served TA well in the past (remember TI–BCF/N935TA, TI–BCG/N936TA, TI–BCH/N937TA and TI–BCI/N938TA) by providing financial distress relief and tax deduction benefits.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Mon May 21, 2012 3:20 pm

Low Cost after regional passengers From http://www.estrategiaynegocios.net/ in Spanish
With a only a very few sentences related to the subject, this article mentions an Hondurean low cost airline Easysky operating B737-200 in an U2 like livery.
Lets see if Easysky will think of flying SAP-MSY.

Panatropolis
This is taken from a local blog and shows what some real-estate merchants want to do with the area needed for PTY 3rd or even 4th runway.
If such a project is openly advertised, it'd seem that for this government, PTY expansion isn't such a priority.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Tue May 22, 2012 12:15 am

Some photos about the new terminal in Liberia, Costa Rica:





















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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Tue May 22, 2012 3:00 pm

Airlines against Law 420 from http://http://news.elvenezolanonews.com.pa - in Spanish
Panamanian airlines association is against a new law that will force any airline flying drug smugglers to pay up to USD50,000 fine each time an smuggler is caught.
Airlines stress that it's out of their control to inspect everybody who boards its planes and what that person is carrying, as that responsibility belongs to each government/airport security/customs authorities.
There's no similar law like that in the whole world.

No need to remind in this forum that Panama president and CM Panamanian owners don't get along.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Wed May 23, 2012 2:54 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 17):
taken from a local blog and shows what some real-estate merchants want to do with the area needed for PTY 3rd or even 4th runway.

It seems that the trend for this year is to focus on the extension at PTY, instead of promoting the discussed projects related to the new airport in Rio Hato as well as the expansion of other airports in Panama such as DAV, BOC, ONX or BLB.
By the way, I assume that the north pier at PTY hasn't been inaugurated yet.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Wed May 23, 2012 2:17 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 20):
By the way, I assume that the north pier at PTY hasn't been inaugurated yet.

I don't know what's the Airport management / Civil Aviation Authority excuse re: PTY North concourse opening now.
It was said it had to do something about the baggage from the concourse not getting to the customs area and something the furniture.
In the meanwhile, it's CM that is feeling the pressure the extra gates aren't available for use yet.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Wed May 23, 2012 2:52 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 18):
Some photos about the new terminal in Liberia, Costa Rica:

Simply beautiful!

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Thu May 24, 2012 3:49 am

The Mexican low-cost carrier "InterJet" is planning to start soon the Mexico City - San Jose service on a daily basis.

Related press release in Spanish:

http://www.nacion.com/2012-05-23/Eco...-Interjet-volara-a-Costa-Rica.aspx


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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Thu May 24, 2012 11:20 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 20):
I assume that the north pier at PTY hasn't been inaugurated yet

it's not open to public yet. From the main terminal it seems to be ready however it's closed  
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Fri May 25, 2012 1:46 pm

Latest aviation related rumour here today is that Air Panama has a new owner.
Unconfirmed, but very worrisome, foreign airlines could stop flying to PTY if government approves Law 420, which will force airlines to pay a fine if flying passengers carrying drugs.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Fri May 25, 2012 6:30 pm

The service into San Salvador - Dallas/Ft. Worth supplied by TACA goes from 4x to 7x weekly:

TA 440....SAL 08:44........DFW 13:24.......Daily
TA 441....DFW 15:24.......SAL 17:54........Daily
Effective: July 01st

The service will be operated by 320 besides the E90 on Fridays.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Fri May 25, 2012 7:05 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 25):
Unconfirmed, but very worrisome, foreign airlines could stop flying to PTY if government approves Law 420, which will force airlines to pay a fine if flying passengers carrying drugs.

Well I am sure we could create a nice hub here in BZE I'm CM wanted to move.  
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Fri May 25, 2012 8:08 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 23):
"InterJet" is planning to start soon the Mexico City - San Jose service on a daily basis


Proposed schedule:

4O 2920.......MEX 09:30.......SJO 11:25.......Mo, Tu, We, Th, Fr
4O 2920.......MEX 11:40.......SJO 13:35.......Sa, Su

4O 2921.......SJO 12:25.......MEX 16:30.......Mo, Tu, We, Th, Fr
4O 2921.......SJO 14:35.......MEX 18:40.......Sa, Su
Effective: June 21st

I've heard today on local radio about CM SJO-PTY-MEX at 35% off regular ticketed price from June till July.



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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Fri May 25, 2012 8:45 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 27):
Well I am sure we could create a nice hub here in BZE I'm CM wanted to move.

Hey GUA called dibs lol   
nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Sat May 26, 2012 4:39 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 27):
Well I am sure we could create a nice hub here in BZE I'm CM wanted to move.
Quoting aer (Reply 29):
Hey GUA called dibs lol

Both BZE and GUA are out of range for a B737 flying non-stop to/from MVD, EZE, POA, GRU, GIG, CNF... And there's an issue with GUA altitude.

I just hope the people in favour of Ley 420 come to their senses and stop pushing it.
Even the charters operations could stop if that law is passed.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Sat May 26, 2012 5:23 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 20):
I assume that the north pier at PTY hasn't been inaugurated yet.

a couple of pictures from PTY conection point
PTY north pier, not open yet
PTY north pier
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Mon May 28, 2012 2:03 pm

Damage to swamps could endanger PTY from www.prensa.,com in Spanish
Yesterday La Prensa features a news that PTY "newest" runway could be at risk of floods if the swamps and mangroves around it are land-filled and a real-estate project built.
I've mentioned before right here, that the same developments are threatening the construction of PTY's 3rd or even 4th runway.
The swamp and mangrove areas next to the airport were until recently protected land but the government intentionally neglected to have its international qualification revised and renewed.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:20 am

The SJO-BOG 14x weekly sector which has been traditionally operated by TA/LR in the last months will experience some changes:

TA/LR [SJO-BOG-BSB] 3x weekly with 319.
TA /LR SJO-BOG 7x weekly with 319.
AV BOG-SJO 4x weekly with 318.
Effective: June 01st.

No more late returns to San Jose at 22:40.



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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:27 am

Well now it is official, PTY is considering a third runway, the new runway will be one project together with the south concourse or terminal that will add 20 gates.


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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:40 am

AeroMexico has already loaded the schedule for the new Cancun - San Jose service as follows:

AM 690.....CUN 10:55........SJO 12:05..........Daily..........73G
AM 691.....SJO 13:05.........CUN 16:10.........Daily..........73G
Effective: July 07th


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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:46 am

Quoting CM767 (Reply 31):
Well now it is official, PTY is considering a third runway, the new runway will be one project together with the south concourse or terminal that will add 20 gates.

Good news that common sense won over the real estate merchants wish to take the land needed for the 3rd runway and make it into a development.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:26 am

I don't foresee the spread of both AeroMexico and InterJet in Panama, on the contrary to Guatemala and Costa Rica where TA/LR gets no more than one daily non-stop flight heading to Mexico City at this time.

Guatemala to Mexico.
TA GUA-MEX 7x weekly
AM MEX-GUA 21x weekly; operated by AeroMexico Connect
4O MEX-GUA 7x weekly


Costa Rica to Mexico City and Cancun
TA/LR SJO-MEX 7x weekly as non-stop
4O MEX-SJO 7x weekly from June 21st
AM MEX-SJO 14x weekly
AM CUN-SJO 7x weekly from July 07th


Panama to Mexico City and Cancun
CM PTY-MEX 28x weekly; code-sharing with AM
CM PTY-CUN 21x weekly; code-sharing with AM




The presence of the Mexican carriers are growing in Guatemala and Costa Rica where the strategy of TA/LR didn't block the incursion of new carriers and routes involving Mexico.
AeroMexico sustains a code-share agreement with Copa Airlines since the Panamanian airline was a SkyTeam associated airline and probably AM is not much interested to serve Panama with their own planes soon.
Perhaps InterJet will find a better niche in El Salvador than Panama due to the huge presence of Copa Airlines on flying the MEX-PTY sector as 4x daily nowadays.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:50 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 34):
I don't foresee the spread of both AeroMexico and InterJet in Panama

I'd like to see 4O in PTY. It could bring airfares down, even if they decide to serve PTY out of TLC and not out of MEX.
Currently there is no late evening arrival MEX-PTY or early morning departure PTY-MEX
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:43 pm

All this is putting the squeeze on TA...CM expanding from the south, AM/4O from the north..no wonder AV is shedding non-core assets like AeroPerlas and trying to fortify SAL. I think in 10 years the C. American landscape will look very different.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:09 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 36):
AM/4O from the north

4O in MGA, that'll be something, IMHO, the market is there, even if not daily to start the route.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:58 pm

So KX will be codesharing with CM. That is like the lion and the zebra having dinner together. At she point the Zebra will start to look pretty fat.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:07 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 35):
they decide to serve PTY out of TLC and not out of MEX


During its first stage in Central America, they served TLC-GUA on a daily basis in 2007-2008.
When the airline returned to the isthmus in 2011, 4O GUA-MEX was the selected route but we have to take into account the demise of MX MEX-GUA 21x weekly.
We can find a similar pattern in Costa Rica given the forthcoming services of 4O MEX-SJO, in spite of both AM MEX-SJO 14x weekly and TA/LR (SJO-MEX) 7x weekly.
On the other hand, CM PTY-MEX 28x weekly means a good coverage in that sector and that fact might justify any 4O TLC-MEX in the future.




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Quoting yellowtail (Reply 36):
All this is putting the squeeze on TA


Agreed. Given the situation of the Central America - Mexico City segment, Grupo TACA hasn't been capable to stop the incursion of the Mexican carriers into his territory: GUA and SJO. I think 4O is studying SAL at this time.




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Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 37):
4O in MGA


4O MEX-SAP might happen before given the current services of AeroMexico Connect into (MEX-SAP) on a daily basis.
AeroMexico mainline flew to Managua around 2007-2009 as the tag-on AM GUA-MGA, if I remember correctly.
No more AM or AeroMexico Connect in Managua by now.




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Quoting yellowtail (Reply 38):
So KX will be codesharing with CM.


I think they were rivals and the KX GCM-PTY might undermine any attempt of either CM or Air Panama of flying the same route.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:37 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 33):
TA/LR [SJO-BOG-BSB] 3x weekly with 319.

BOG-BSB is still being marketed as a four times a week operation, glitch in the schedules maybe?
 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:55 pm

Airlines @ PTY in alert due to new law from www.prensa.com in Spanish
The Panama National Assembly will take 5 days to discuss the proposed Law 420 which imposes a fine up to USD50,000 to airlines flying-in passengers carrying drugs.
Airlines got to eliminate that proposed fine and accepted they could be fined only if fter an investigation the airline is proven it has been an accomplice to the passenger bringing drugs into PTY.
The chief of the Panama Airlines Association expect this issue with the new law will come to a happy ending.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:00 am

The following Peruvian press release written in Spanish states that both AV/TA and CM will simultaneously enter into Star Alliance on June 21st:


http://aeronoticias.com.pe/noticiero...ce-&catid=14:14&Itemid=574


Great moment for the Central American aviation !     


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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:05 pm

CM and Airline association in favour of Law 420 From http://www.panamaamerica.com.pa - in Spanish
Today, the pro-government Panamanian newspaper Panamá-América features the news that CM and the Panama Airline Association are in favour of the proposed Law 420 which is going to fine airlines and other international transportation companies if bringing in passengers carrying drugs into Panama.
According to the newspaper, CM is denying that the opposition lawmakers complained the law was tailor made to hurt CM Panamanian owners, who the country president dislike very much.
What appears several times in the article is the fact that all sides agree to minimize the effects of such a law in CM hub operations and growth potential.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:07 am

Copa Airlines inaugurated on June 15th 2011 their new services to Nassau, Bahamas and Porto Alegre, Brazil, among others.
One year later, their weekly frequencies has been up-gauged as shown:


..............................2011........2012
CM PTY-NAS..........4x............6x
CM PTY-POA..........4x............7x


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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:34 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 44):
CM PTY-NAS..........4x............6x

NAS is doing very very well.....it is hard to get a seat. I am surprised it did not go daily.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 48

Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:47 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 48):
NAS is doing very very well.....it is hard to get a seat. I am surprised it did not go daily.

When CM announced NAS I had expected enough traffic for only 2-3 E190 flights per week..
Flying almost daily to NAS now is such an unexpected surprise..
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