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New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 5:52 pm

Just posted on flightglobal.com:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...-considering-livery-update-371852/

According to Captain Jim Dees - fleet captain for AA's 777s and future 787s - the airline is evaluating new colour schemes, as a lot of the airframes that the airline will be receiving will not have aluminium fuselages, but composite. Whether the update will amount to anything more than changing the shiny silver that makes up the majority of the current livery to a grey or a white remains to be seen, but hopefully it's something more substantial.

Has anybody else heard anything about a potential change to the colourscheme? What are we likely to see?
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 5:54 pm

Yes, change it, modify it, update it!!! Most airlines do that after emerging from bankruptcy. Change is always GOOD!  
 
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 6:04 pm

I've got a feeling that it will look like the current US scheme with AA titles...   
 
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 6:14 pm

I think adding grey would suit the current livery best IMO, instead of white. If they do go white then the majority of a.net will be complaining about another white livery, but it seem like the norm with airlines these days. O well, either way, im not complaining.
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 6:19 pm

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 3):
I think adding grey would suit the current livery best IMO, instead of white. If they do go white then the majority of a.net will be complaining about another white livery, but it seem like the norm with airlines these days. O well, either way, im not complaining.

Indeed. Why not just make the base layer gray, keep everything else the same, and go from there?
 
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Mon May 14, 2012 6:26 pm

Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 1):
Change is always GOOD!

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I'm for keeping the AA livery as it is, but on composite aircraft, paint the "bare" areas in silver metallic flake, similar to Northwest's final paint scheme. This is more interesting than just grey, while keeping the classic AA look.

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Mon May 14, 2012 6:53 pm

I agree, a silver metalic base like former NWA and Virgin Atlantic's would work for AA. Modify the font and streamline the cheatlines and logo and it would effectively refresh AA's current one.
 
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Mon May 14, 2012 6:54 pm

Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 5):
I'm for keeping the AA livery as it is, but on composite aircraft, paint the "bare" areas in silver metallic flake, similar to Northwest's final paint scheme.

Agree. Also Aeroflot, Jet2, Germanwings, and a few others.


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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 6:59 pm

Quoting eldanno (Reply 2):
I've got a feeling that it will look like the current US scheme with AA titles...

Who knows that might very well happen but I'm not sure. The AA brand is very popular in Latin America and I don't know if it is a wise move to take that away but who am I to say. Stranger things have happened  

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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 7:03 pm

Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 5):
Not always....

I actually like the new delta livery, compared to the wavy-gravy, its 10 times better!
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Quoting eldanno (Reply 2):
I've got a feeling that it will look like the current US scheme with AA titles...

I don't think so. While I do like the US livery, I don't think it would look good with the AA titles.
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Mon May 14, 2012 7:12 pm

I'm all for changing the AA livery. I've just always disliked the look of their planes, to me they just look unfinished, like low-budget flying tin cans.
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 7:16 pm

it'll be a shame to see the classic livery go but progress has GOT to happen. That livery is what led me TO the airline industry as I dreamed of working for American. As Luck would have it United hired me First. But I've aleways admired American;s Livery because it looks like the PROUD stars and stripes. I DO wish the Eagle had looked more Menacing though.
 
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 7:52 pm

Quoting eldanno (Reply 2):
I've got a feeling that it will look like the current US scheme with AA titles.
http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00014883.jpg

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not mine, source: http://www.cardatabase.net/modifieda...earch/photo_search.php?id=00014883
 
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 8:33 pm

Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 12):

The font on that thing looks awful. Otherwise it's okay. But I prefer AA remain independent.
 
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 9:26 pm

silver paint all the way with some subtly revised cheatline and font adaptations will do just fine
 
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Mon May 14, 2012 10:17 pm

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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 10:31 pm

I think that US airways/american paint looks ugly. Maybe if the purple was replaced with blue, it would look a little better.
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 10:34 pm

Quoting murchmo (Reply 15):

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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 10:39 pm

Quoting rjm777ual (Reply 16):
I think that US airways/american paint looks ugly. Maybe if the purple was replaced with blue, it would look a little better.

I agree. I think that people are posting that goofy hybrid scheme just to rile people up. I would like to see the AA livery tastefully updated, but retaining a red, white, and blue cheatline. No Eurowhite and no "swoosh" of any type, please!
 
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 10:49 pm



  
 
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 11:33 pm

Does anyone have any data on how much weight those chrome paints would add versus regular paint? Is the process too complicated for an aviation application?

If it could be done with no added penalty over normal pigments, then that it the way to go.

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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 11:38 pm

Battleship Grey.

Blue Belly.

Blue Eagle on tail.

American Airlines in logo appropriate colors.

That's my guess.
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Mon May 14, 2012 11:43 pm

while I like the current AA livery after AA's negative image of it losing money and going through bankruptcy it probably is about the right time to go through a "brand re-freshening". If UA gave up the tulip then anything is possible.
 
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 1:11 am

Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 1):
Change is always GOOD!

Only when it's change for the better; change for change's sake is just tampering.
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 1:17 am

Quoting murchmo (Reply 15):

God that's one sexy 757 murchmo.
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 1:35 am

Quoting bueb0g (Thread starter):
What are we likely to see?

I know, it will look very similar if not identical to the US livery... That is if the merger goes through :P
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 1:56 am

Quoting murchmo (Reply 15):

here here!   
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 2:03 am

Quoting eldanno (Reply 2):
I've got a feeling that it will look like the current US scheme with AA titles...   
Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 12):
not mine, source: http://www.cardatabase.net/modifieda...earch/photo_search.php?id=00014883

Looks a lot like it would have had AA adopted the last TW scheme.
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 2:38 am

I have to be honest. While I really believe the retro livery thing can work great when simple and done right. I think US Airways has the best "newer" livery. It's very elegant. Especially in these days of swooshes and euro white.
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 3:50 am

Quoting murchmo (Reply 28):
It's very elegant.

  

Wow! Elegant is the last word used to describe US' livery.

Quoting lexy (Reply 24):
God that's one sexy 757 murchmo.

I have to agree.
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 4:31 am

Quoting caleeiii (Reply 19):
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8919/usaau.jpg

  

While you may be "stirring the pot", the second image there actually looks pretty sharp, with the exception of the mis-aligned tail logo. Bearing that in mind....

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/3392/usaa787rb.png

Original: http://www.cardatabase.net/modifieda...earch/photo_search.php?id=00012676

[Edited 2012-05-14 21:40:07]
 
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Tue May 15, 2012 4:59 am

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 29):

It must have been te way te light hit that 757 with winglets in Kona that made me think it was nice. I'll stick with the retro.   
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 5:22 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):

Maybe exchanging the Aeroflot blue tail for something different...but silver like Aeroflot would look very nice..
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 5:48 am

Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 12):

I hate that look! It looks totally wrong, and really messy! I'm more for nothing resembling US until a merger has been announced! I'm thinking of a complete redesign, maybe a blue body with the red and white title, and have blue engines with white stars? Just an idea...
 
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 6:33 am

Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 12):

Best looking AA I have seen, if it has to be called American, this would be the one to go with, but that AA logo with the eagle may need to be left behind.

Quoting caleeiii (Reply 19):

Top one needs a better font.

Bottom one is just too forced, like the original Continited with the wrong font. The one with the white AA is much better.
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 6:39 am

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 33):
I hate that look! It looks totally wrong, and really messy! I'm more for nothing resembling US

  

Messy is the precise word I would use for those juvenile liveries. People think cutting & pasting is the best way to create a brand image. What you usually end up with is the cluttered abominations like posted above.

AA needs an image that reflects a professional global carrier, not something that appeals to 13yo teens on a.net. Either AA goes with their current livery or they hire professionals to create a new and classy livery. In a way I don't admire those tasked with designing the new look. If they get it wrong many will curse them.
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Tue May 15, 2012 6:50 am

Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 1):
Yes, change it, modify it, update it!!! Most airlines do that after emerging from bankruptcy. Change is always GOOD!  
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 6:54 am

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 35):
AA needs an image that reflects a professional global carrier, not something that appeals to 13yo teens on a.net.

Thank you! The current one does that. No update needed. Full-stop.  
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 7:11 am

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 3):
If they do go white then the majority of a.net will be complaining about another white livery,

....and that will keep AA´s management from sleeping at night ??

Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 5):
Not always....

Good examples.


My guess it would be either like the current paint scheme just with the exception of grey paint instead of polished metal or it will be the US paint scheme with AA titles......
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 7:23 am

Quoting columba (Reply 38):
....and that will keep AA´s management from sleeping at night ??

No, im just stating what ive observed from peoples views towards new liveries that are mostly white.
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 7:29 am

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 35):
AA needs an image that reflects a professional global carrier, not something that appeals to 13yo teens on a.net. Either AA goes with their current livery or they hire professionals to create a new and classy livery. In a way I don't admire those tasked with designing the new look. If they get it wrong many will curse them.

  
 
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 10:07 am

Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 6):

I agree, a silver metalic base like former NWA and Virgin Atlantic's would work for AA. Modify the font and streamline the cheatlines and logo and it would effectively refresh AA's current one.

AAs livery is old, but its a classic that has aged well without being stunning. I would compare it to the classic simplicity of Lufthansa or Qantas, even if AAs livery is older. If future composite planes are painted silver instead of being silver, then they should paint the tailfin accordingly, too. The only thing I really dislike on AAs livery is the dull grey of the fin.
 
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 10:58 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 37):

Thank you! The current one does that. No update needed. Full-stop.

How so.. It's old way out of date and totaly bland. I may be in a minority on Anet but I think AA needs a new C/s pronto. Also how does it represent a professional global image while they have been flying it around as one of the worst run airlines in the world? How much debt do they have again hmmm...
 
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 11:40 am

I like this one .......

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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 11:48 am

Quoting virgincrew (Reply 43):

Indeed. This one is just perfect.
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 12:08 pm

Quoting virgincrew (Reply 43):
I like this one .......

This is one of the more acceptable fantasy liveries out there, and the tail is elegant and professional. However, the abruptly cutoff cheatline and the screaming oversized font has a LCC-ish feel.
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 12:27 pm

Yes, so you are bankrupt and want to change your livery that everyone is aware off, even a 3 years old, and spend money not only creating and putting the change in place but also making it known. Changing the livery will NOT change the way people look at AA as 'the worst run airline in the world', even if this is not totally true. If you want this effect, change also the name. The 'silver bullet' is known everywhere in the world and the feeling is: I want to fly that beautiful plane. I remember back in the day when I was 7 years old and went on my first trip to the U.S., on UA. Were in JFK on a regional plane looking at all those 747s I had never seen in my life and then an AA 777 got in front of me. Needless to say, the only thing I wanted was to quit that plane and jump inside AAs. Well, guess what? The next flight I went on to the U.S. was on AA. You want to look well run? BE WELL RUN, it's that simple. You don't need to change the livery. Looking well run is not for the people flying, it's for the people investing in the company, and those won't invest in AA because it's livery looks professional. For the people flying, your plane and brand have to look appealing for them and you need a good product. After all, you want to get from point A to point B, some in first class, some in cramped economy, but that's what you want, and you don't care if you doing this is making profit or loss to the airline, all you care about is that you receive what you bought.
 
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 1:26 pm

Quoting murchmo (Reply 15):

Gorgeous! I loved that livery. They should've painted the whole fleet that way.
 
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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 1:27 pm

Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 1):
Yes, change it, modify it, update it!!! Most airlines do that after emerging from bankruptcy. Change is always GOOD!

Yeah....change is always good................

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RE: New Livery For AA On The Way?

Tue May 15, 2012 1:38 pm

I for one LOVE the US scheme with American titles. It would look awesome on every single aircraft in the fleet.

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I'm still puking over that UA scheme. It's still the worst. I highly anticipate that it will be changed whenever Smisek gets the boot.
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