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Air Austral 777-200LR At Kpae

Tue May 15, 2012 11:16 pm

Hi all,

This plane has been sitting out at KPAE for over a month. Does anyone know when it's going to be delivered or why it's been sitting there for so long?

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[Edited 2012-05-15 16:17:22]
 
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RE: Air Austral 777-200LR At Kpae

Tue May 15, 2012 11:38 pm

I've been wondering that, myself; looking at the 777 Production List, it's the only acft (apart from the very new ones) awaiting delivery.

I know Air Austral made a decision to reduce its route network. Perhaps this played a part; of course, another reason might be that the airline simply could not/cannot get sufficient financing for the aircraft .
 
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RE: Air Austral 777-200LR At Kpae

Wed May 16, 2012 12:25 am

Could be lack of pilots, as well. In the past, EK planes sat on the line for some time before they could assemble a crew to fly them out.
 
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RE: Air Austral 777-200LR At Kpae

Wed May 16, 2012 2:51 am

A Google search brought up a news story in French datelined today May 15.

In summary, Google translate says that the story says that Air Austral are in financial dire straits which delayed the closure of obtaining the 73% of the financing required to be able to take delivery. But now a solution has been found (with the help of AF/KL group??) to allow them to be able to take delivery of the new 77L.

Don't know how reliable the source is. Just do a search for Air Austral Boeing. Perhaps native Francophones can tell us if my paraphrasing of the Google translation is accurate.
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RE: Air Austral 777-200LR At Kpae

Fri May 18, 2012 7:28 am

UU is terminating its Sydney and Noumea services. If they are going to take delivery of the new B77L, then I would presume that the 2 B772ERs that are currently in the fleet are going to be disposed of. The airline is also operating 3 B77Ws and one more B77L.
 
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RE: Air Austral 777-200LR At Kpae

Fri May 18, 2012 7:51 am

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 4):
If they are going to take delivery of the new B77L, then I would presume that the 2 B772ERs that are currently in the fleet are going to be disposed of.

That is correct, the 77L is replacing the 772ER's, they were to have already terminated their services to SYD but they're still operating as of this week.
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RE: Air Austral 777-200LR At Kpae

Fri May 18, 2012 10:48 am

Quoting WestWing (Reply 3):
Just do a search for Air Austral Boeing. Perhaps native Francophones can tell us if my paraphrasing of the Google translation is accurate.

Voilà! If this is the article you mention, in Les Echos from this morning http://www.lesechos.fr/economie-poli...nds-aeroports-regionaux-324473.php

Basically, on top of the SYD and NOU routes, all routes to French provincial airports will be terminated: NTE, BOD, TLS, LYS and MRS. Also BKK will be downgraded from B772 to B738 (fuel stop in MAA).

The only increase will be CDG, from 7x weekly to 12x weekly.

All that implies that the B77L, sitting at PAE isn't needed anymore and they are trying to sell it. No precision on the two B77E, whether they'll keep them or not. But with only one wide-body destination I'm not sure how they can keep 6 777's of 3 different types...
Finally, the article also implies that UU is trying to work out a solution with Airbus to defer deliveries of the two high-density A380s but they'd very much like to see their €30mil deposit back...
 
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RE: Air Austral 777-200LR At Kpae

Fri May 18, 2012 11:18 am

For just 12 weekly CDG rountrips, even 3 B77Ws will be too much. Those B77Ws should be easier to offload than the B77Es and B77Ls.
 
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RE: Air Austral 777-200LR At Kpae

Fri May 18, 2012 6:51 pm

I'm still even surprised they are keeping BKK alive. This route is a non-sense, as were SYD/NOU.
 
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RE: Air Austral 777-200LR At Kpae

Sat May 19, 2012 7:43 am

Too bad for Air Austral.

Will they still keep Mayotte - Paris ?

I think at least one of the 777-200/ER is going to OrenAir. Also two of the 77Ws are leased from ILFC so perhaps UU can give them back.

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RE: Air Austral 777-200LR At Kpae

Sat May 19, 2012 10:52 pm

So what would they need? Faor those 12 weekly flights, I'd say 2 B77L sound about right;

Quoting the777man (Reply 9):
Will they still keep Mayotte - Paris ?

Apparently they are all routed via RUN (daily B738 + 3xw B777). I think Corsair flies triangle Paris-Mayotte-Réunion-Paris.

They state on their site that they're keeping 4 B777, 2 B737 and 3 ATR72. No indication on which 777 they want to offload. I guess they'll end up keeping 2 B77E and 2 B77W, however it sounds a lot to me, unless they plan on operating many charters. Or, unless they're operated à la TN like a pride tool to bring tourists in, whatever the cost.

I hope UU stays alive and ends up operating those A380. Now that's a good experiment there (good it will be as long as I won't find myself in one of those  
 
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RE: Air Austral 777-200LR At Kpae

Sun May 20, 2012 3:50 am

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 7):
Those B77Ws should be easier to offload than the B77Es and B77Ls.

Aren't there any Middle Eastern airlines who are dying to take this 777-200LR as well? EK or QR???

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RE: Air Austral 777-200LR At Kpae

Sun May 20, 2012 3:54 am

This aircraft was on display today at the Paine Field Aviation Day. Like F-OLRA, it looks great. It also has a name now: "Caribou." The crowds prevented any really good a.net pictures.
 
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RE: Air Austral 777-200LR At Kpae

Sun May 20, 2012 4:38 am

Quoting cargolex (Reply 12):
Like F-OLRA, it looks great. It also has a name now: "Caribou."

Looking great even sans paint.....

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RE: Air Austral 777-200LR At Kpae

Sun May 20, 2012 5:59 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 11):
Aren't there any Middle Eastern airlines who are dying to take this 777-200LR as well? EK or QR???

Nope. Both are taking 77W as fast as they can get them, and EK has determined that it makes more economic sense to fly restricted 77Ws than full 77Ls on routes like DXB-SFO and DXB-LAX.

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