BA777
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BA Cityflyer Charter Flights

Thu May 17, 2012 5:48 pm

Hi everyone,

BACF appear to be doing plenty of charter work this summer. However, for a project I'm looking for information about the schedule of the following flights:

EDI-BLQ
GLA-FAO
GLA-MAH

Also, is it correct the 170 is used on all of these weekend charter flights?

Thanks
 
edina
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RE: BA Cityflyer Charter Flights

Thu May 17, 2012 6:13 pm

Not sure about this year, but last summer most, if not all of the GLA charters were E190s.
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by738
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RE: BA Cityflyer Charter Flights

Thu May 17, 2012 7:40 pm

A start, can fill in the blanks

Friday
GLA-PMI 0600
GLA-PMI 1445

Saturday
MAN-CAG 1240
GLA-ALC
GLA-PMI 0730
GLA-PMI 1510
GLA-REU
GLA-VCE
GLA-AGP
ABZ-AGP
EDI-BLQ
EDI-FAO
EDI-IBZ


Sunday
MAN-OLB 0830
EDI-PMI
GLA-BCN
GLA-IBZ
GLA-AGP
GLA-PMI

Most E190s
 
BA777
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RE: BA Cityflyer Charter Flights

Fri May 18, 2012 8:37 am

Is there no GLA-FAO or GLA-MAH?
 
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RE: BA Cityflyer Charter Flights

Fri May 18, 2012 7:23 pm

Quoting BA777 (Reply 3):
Is there no GLA-FAO or GLA-MAH?

FAO - Will not be operated by BACF
MAH - This year will be operated by BE

Quoting BA777 (Thread starter):
EDI-BLQ

Flights will operate every Saturday from 23rd June to 25 August. Flights will op as BA4547C/BA4548C
 
sandyb123
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RE: BA Cityflyer Charter Flights

Sat May 19, 2012 9:46 am

Don't forget the Sightseeing flights. One of my colleagues took a 3-hour EDI-EDI flight last month on a BA E170 to go hunting the northern lights. These flights happen all over the country.

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vv701
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RE: BA Cityflyer Charter Flights

Sat May 19, 2012 1:18 pm

On a slightly different tack does anyone have access to a list linking BA CityFlyer scheduled flight call signs to the equivalent flight number?
 
CRJ900
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RE: BA Cityflyer Charter Flights

Sat May 19, 2012 3:14 pm

Are they "classic" charter flights, where all passengers get a mealtray? Do the BA E-jets have big enough galleys to store meal trolleys for a return rotation?
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by738
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RE: BA Cityflyer Charter Flights

Sat May 19, 2012 8:50 pm

These are the details given for BACF charters
"No inflight meal, snack service can be purchased onboard.
20kg luggage allowance + 5 kg hand luggage included"
 
BA777
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RE: BA Cityflyer Charter Flights

Thu May 24, 2012 11:12 am

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 5):
Don't forget the Sightseeing flights. One of my colleagues took a 3-hour EDI-EDI flight last month on a BA E170 to go hunting the northern lights. These flights happen all over the country.

Weekly?
 
AIR MALTA
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RE: BA Cityflyer Charter Flights

Thu May 24, 2012 12:51 pm

Last year BACF operated a one weekly STN-NBE. Is this going to continue this year?
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alespesl
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RE: BA Cityflyer Charter Flights

Thu May 24, 2012 2:03 pm

There is a charter flight of BA CityFlyer on May 27, 2012 EDI-PRG-STN.
 
richardw
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RE: BA Cityflyer Charter Flights

Fri May 25, 2012 9:42 am

Could BA do their own flights with the e-jets from LGW,STN, SEN and EDI, GLA at weekends all year round?
 
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RE: BA Cityflyer Charter Flights

Fri May 25, 2012 1:28 pm

Quoting richardw (Reply 12):
Could BA do their own flights with the e-jets from LGW,STN, SEN and EDI, GLA at weekends all year round?

There's nothing stopping them from launching such routes and operating them year round. But why would they?

One great thing about operating flights on a chartered basis is the ease of marketing and the selling of such flights. You market your services to one or two tour groups, and they purchase all the capacity to sell as part of a package. Compare that to running the flights as regular scheduled departures - you have to market and sell the flights to the general public who will buy a couple of seats at a time. Seats not sold is potential revenue lost. Having someone else sell the seats for you (a tour group) reduces your sales/marketing expenditure; and depending on how the contract is set up, seats not sold may not affect your revenue earned. Some agreements for example pay a set sum for the flight to be operated, regardless as to whether it's full or not.

I think CJ are taking the logical approach to their spare weekend capacity - give it someone else to sell.
 
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RE: BA Cityflyer Charter Flights

Sat May 26, 2012 1:08 pm

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 7):

The aircraft have full galleys with ovens both forward & aft, so could offer a full hot meal service. On board service is normally specified by the company chartering the flight. Many BACF charters ex Scotland have been contracted by Scottish travel agency chain Barrhead Travel for their package holidays
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RE: BA Cityflyer Charter Flights

Sat May 26, 2012 3:09 pm

Quoting aamd11 (Reply 13):
Some agreements for example pay a set sum for the flight to be operated, regardless as to whether it's full or not.

And if the flight is not full the weight carried is lower than expected, the fuel burn is reduced and the saving on a major cost element washes through to the bottom line. With such a contract flying half empty is a lot better than flying with a 100 per ceent load factor.

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