PU803
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LY 744 Emergency?

Fri May 18, 2012 8:36 am

According to Casper - Live Aircraft Tracking LY 315 from LHR is cyrcling around TLV rigth now at Ft 8000. This is not a regular view here.
 
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RE: LY 744 Emergency?

Fri May 18, 2012 8:38 am

Can also be watched at flightradar24.com. But its flight LY315, TLV-LHR, so shortly after take off.

Currently circling over the sea at 8,075 ft.

edit: They seem to have left the holding pattern, now returning to TLV.

[Edited 2012-05-18 01:41:50]
PA, AF, UK, BA, AB, DL, LH, FR, BD, A3, EZY, DY //// A319/320/346, B733/735/73G/738/744/763, AT4, 146, CR2, DH4
 
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RE: LY 744 Emergency?

Fri May 18, 2012 9:06 am

Flight 315 has now been rescheduled, new departure time is 13:00 local.
PA, AF, UK, BA, AB, DL, LH, FR, BD, A3, EZY, DY //// A319/320/346, B733/735/73G/738/744/763, AT4, 146, CR2, DH4
 
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RE: LY 744 Emergency?

Fri May 18, 2012 10:30 am

Do you know which reg it is?
Flown:717,727,732,734,735,738,73W,742/744/748,752,762/2ER/763/3ER,772/77E/773/77W, 788, D8,D10,L1011, A3B2,A320,A321,A332,A343,A388
 
PU803
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RE: LY 744 Emergency?

Fri May 18, 2012 12:16 pm

From Haaretz newspaper:
"An El Al airliner bound for London was forced to land in Ben-Gurion International Airport on Friday shortly after taking off, after discovering a technical fault in its flaps.

The malfunction was discovered 40 minutes into its flight, at which point the plant was instructed to burn fuel and return to Tel Aviv. It then circled the port for another 40 minutes, before safely land ing. "

LY 315 departed to London at 2.37 PM with 349 passengers.

[Edited 2012-05-18 05:18:35]
 
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RE: LY 744 Emergency?

Fri May 18, 2012 2:25 pm

It was 4X-ELA which was involved
Flown:717,727,732,734,735,738,73W,742/744/748,752,762/2ER/763/3ER,772/77E/773/77W, 788, D8,D10,L1011, A3B2,A320,A321,A332,A343,A388
 
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RE: LY 744 Emergency?

Fri May 18, 2012 2:38 pm

Quoting PU803 (Reply 4):
"An El Al airliner bound for London was forced to land in Ben-Gurion International Airport on Friday shortly after taking off, after discovering a technical fault in its flaps.

The malfunction was discovered 40 minutes into its flight, at which point the plant was instructed to burn fuel and return to Tel Aviv. It then circled the port for another 40 minutes, before safely land ing. "

I would think the crew would know of a flap problem (failure of one or more to retract?) much earlier than 40 minutes into flight when it should have been at cruise altitude and airspeed.
 
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RE: LY 744 Emergency?

Fri May 18, 2012 4:06 pm

Quoting PU803 (Reply 4):
"An El Al airliner bound for London was forced to land in Ben-Gurion International Airport on Friday shortly after taking off, after discovering a technical fault in its flaps.

It's quite common, especially with those older Boeing bangers!
Happened to me quite recently on a BA 763, ironically also returning from TLV
 
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RE: LY 744 Emergency?

Fri May 18, 2012 4:34 pm

In an Israeli aviation forum it was said the flaps were stuck at 10. Of course this is something the pilots found out after 3 or 4 min of flight and not 40.
In the forum there is a picture of its route which shows they didn’t fly too far.
Here is a link to a specific message in the thread where you can see the aircraft after landing (I hope you can see it without any problem because it is an Hebrew website). You can click on the picture to enlarge it.
The inboard flap looks at 25 but the outboard flap is not visible.
My guess is a broken torque tube or a total failure of one of two Flaps Power Packages.
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RE: LY 744 Emergency?

Sat May 19, 2012 6:03 am

Quoting Mike909 (Reply 7):
It's quite common, especially with those older Boeing bangers!

Really? Is it?
Do you figures to back up this comment?
 
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RE: LY 744 Emergency?

Sat May 19, 2012 6:26 am

Quoting PU803 (Reply 4):
The malfunction was discovered 40 minutes into its flight, at which point the plant was instructed to burn fuel and return to Tel Aviv. It then circled the port for another 40 minutes, before safely land ing. "

I like the fact the Plant was instructed to return. I work with plants and the only ones that fly is when I get bored chucking rubbish.

Quoting 7673mech (Reply 9):
Really? Is it?
Do you figures to back up this comment?

Hmm. Could happen to any aircraft anywhere, even a new Boeing or Airbus for thar matter.
 
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RE: LY 744 Emergency?

Sat May 19, 2012 6:48 am

You mean LY didn't scramble F-16's?   

In all seriousness, seems like a pretty normal problem to have. Sad to see there were no stories from PAX about how they knew something was off before the plane took off.  
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RE: LY 744 Emergency?

Sun May 20, 2012 11:01 am

Here 2 videos:
Landing and Taxi
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RE: LY 744 Emergency?

Mon May 21, 2012 5:06 pm

Just noticed ELA is operating LY316 today (and obviously LY315) so seems like it was a very quick repair.

Any have any more details on the problem and what was done/needed to be done to fix it?