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AA Has Announced Its' Initial 777-300ER Schedule

Wed May 23, 2012 4:06 pm

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/americ...nces-initial-boeing-160000249.html

Not exactly what many were hoping for, but not surprising either. Initial routes are DFW and JFK to LHR and GRU. What do you all think AA will do with the freed up 777-200's?
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 4:28 pm

Those routes may make the most sense, for maximizing PROFIT!

more frequencies on other Latin routes?

OR maybe sliding a few into more domestic service..MIA-DFW-LAX ?

or freeing up and moving around the 763's and retire a 762 or 2?? (just a thought)
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 4:29 pm

What about ORD? I'm disappointed.
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Wed May 23, 2012 4:31 pm

some interesting tidbits from the article,

apparently they are introducing international WiFi

a walk up Bar (thought the point of a bigger aircraft was to fit more seats-not provide a space wasting luxury)

and introduction of Main Cabin Extra- adds 6 inches of leg room
Main cabin extra link

http://www.aa.com/i18n/urls/mainCabi...ion=DirectURL&title=maincabinextra
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Wed May 23, 2012 4:34 pm

Quoting TWA85 (Thread starter):
What do you all think AA will do with the freed up 777-200's?

More Brazil!
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Wed May 23, 2012 4:36 pm

I must ask... will AA's new 77W sport their current livery? Because that AA livery would look stunning on that Triple 7 stretch....
If it wasn't for AI and those money mongers sitting in the parliament, 9W would have been as big as SQ...:(
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 4:44 pm

Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 2):
What about ORD? I'm disappointed.

ORD seems to be getting less emphasis from AA in general.
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Wed May 23, 2012 4:46 pm

Quoting TWA85 (Thread starter):
What do you all think AA will do with the freed up 777-200's?

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Wed May 23, 2012 4:51 pm

Quoting web500sjc (Reply 3):
a walk up Bar (thought the point of a bigger aircraft was to fit more seats-not provide a space wasting luxury)

Well, bear in mind that the 777-300ERs are being deployed on routes where there is a demand for F, and likely those F passengers will value this type of service. Meanwhile, the 772s are being re-configured to include J-only premium seats, hence adding back in a few extra seats for higher revenue.

Quoting web500sjc (Reply 3):
and introduction of Main Cabin Extra- adds 6 inches of leg room
Main cabin extra link

Another thing that AA will find is a revenue generator. It's just following the trends with airlines such as UA, DL, BA, etc. all of which have found that there is demand for a premium economy class.
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Wed May 23, 2012 4:52 pm

Old news, this has been known for a while now.

Quoting JOYA380B747 (Reply 5):
I must ask... will AA's new 77W sport their current livery? Because that AA livery would look stunning on that Triple 7 stretch....

Most likely. The first 77W is due on property at the end of this year so if they were planning a new livery, they don't have much time to work with.

Quoting TWA85 (Thread starter):
What do you all think AA will do with the freed up 777-200's?

Well, they'll start reconfiguring them with Y-(3-4-3), Y+, and the deletion of F, for starters.
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Wed May 23, 2012 4:58 pm

What is the deal with the interor decor? Are these patterns going to be extended to the domestic fleet as well?
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 5:11 pm

Quoting TWA85 (Thread starter):
What do you all think AA will do with the freed up 777-200's?

More China routes ... just a guess.
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 5:14 pm

Quoting brons2 (Reply 6):
ORD seems to be getting less emphasis from AA in general.

Perhaps the writing is on the wall ... maybe AA will shrink ORD after all. (Okay, I know this statement is ridiculous, but I just needed to vent).
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Wed May 23, 2012 5:32 pm

It surprises me that DFW-GRU is only scheduled for 2 months, and then replaced by DFW-LHR and JFK-LHR/GRU. Is DFW-GRU a "test" then?

DFW-GRU: 13DEC2012 - 13FEB2013 (AA963/AA962)
DFW-LHR: From 31JAN2012 (AA50/AA79 through FEB13, then AA50/AA51)
JFK-LHR: From 14FEB2013 (AA100/AA101)
JFK-GRU: From 02APR2013 (AA951/AA950)
DFW-LHR (2n flight): 02MAR2013 - 31MAR2013 (AA78/AA79)
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 5:57 pm

Quoting web500sjc (Reply 3):
a walk up Bar (thought the point of a bigger aircraft was to fit more seats-not provide a space wasting luxury)

That walk-up bar may make the difference for the premium customer who has a choice of airlines. That customer may choose AA over airlines such as UA or DL, or others who do not have the bar.

Quoting realsim (Reply 14):
It surprises me that DFW-GRU is only scheduled for 2 months, and then replaced by DFW-LHR and JFK-LHR/GRU. Is DFW-GRU a "test" then?

My educated guess is that it is just seasonal adjustments.
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 5:59 pm

Quoting incitatus (Reply 4):
More Brazil!

Can we possibly see CNF with a 777?  
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 6:05 pm

This all sounds wonderful but what about the untouched markets in the Far-East like Seoul or Bangkok?? Im guessing they fly to NRT but not places like BOM, DEL.   
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 6:11 pm

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 17):
Im guessing they fly to NRT but not places like BOM, DEL.

They pulled off their ORD-DEL daily service a few months back, I don't suppose AA will return any time soon....
If it wasn't for AI and those money mongers sitting in the parliament, 9W would have been as big as SQ...:(
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 6:18 pm

Quoting TWA85 (Thread starter):
What do you all think AA will do with the freed up 777-200's?

Do they have a/c (777-200ER's) set aside for starting HND on the 1st?

Re-start KIX?
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Quoting JOYA380B747 (Reply 18):
I don't suppose AA will return any time soon....

The historical financial performance of the route and its future outlook given the global economic climate and high oil prices has resulted in a decision by American to cancel its New Delhi (DEL) - Chicago O'Hare (ORD) service. Don't see them restarting as they have co-shares for the flight.

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Wed May 23, 2012 6:38 pm

DFW-LHR, JFK to LHR and GRU, why do these destinations not surprise us for the 77W.
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 6:39 pm

Quoting boeingfever777 (Reply 19):

Do they have a/c (777-200ER's) set aside for starting HND on the 1st?

Yes, I'm guessing they will be using the 77E that they are pulling off of the JFK-NRT route.
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 6:40 pm

Quoting boeingfever777 (Reply 19):
Do they have a/c (777-200ER's) set aside for starting HND on the 1st?

JFK-NRT moves to HND so it is the same aircraft. No need for an additional B772 for this route.
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 7:38 pm

At least seasonally, I can see the 777 going to FRA as a pretty good bet. 70/71 is absolutely always full, and right now, it is AA's only flight to Germany, the world's third? largest economy. I think maybe it is a safe bet that AA will try ORD-BER and maybe DFW-BER on the 767 at some point. DFW-BER is long, as the FRA flight was taking weight restrictions all throughout the winter because of the headwinds, but I think they might be able to make it work. All in all I know AA needs to do something more in Germany than just 1x FRA flights, not when Star carriers can send 777s to MUC and Delta can fly to STR. AA's service there is abysmal and warrants more international capacity.

Also, I think sending the 777 to SCL is another good bet. Already, AA is talking about expanding GRU international service. Outside of Brazil, EZE and SCL do incredibly well loadfactor wise. I would hope for an upguage to SCL or perhaps a second DFW-EZE trip (or a third MIA-EZE).

I just flew MIA-SCL last week, and it was 90%+ full, as a nonrev, we flew over to EZE on LA because the return SCL-DFW flight was filling up. This is the off season for Chile and South America and AA is still filling aircraft.

It would be a good use for the 777s.

More Asia is good too. In fact, more international capacity is needed all around, so I'm very excited to see the 77Ws arrive!
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 9:50 pm

Quoting web500sjc (Reply 3):

a walk up Bar (thought the point of a bigger aircraft was to fit more seats-not provide a space wasting luxury)

A walk up bar setup between meal services takes virtually no galley space or requires space for seating. I don't think we are talking about a lounge like a few Middle Eastern airlines have, but rather just a self service bar with drinks and snacks. They are pretty common on many airlines.
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Wed May 23, 2012 9:59 pm

For those who haven't seen the artist renderings of the interior of the new 77W, here's a link. It shows the new walk-up bar, new Flagship Suite, new business class seat and coach product.

http://www.aa.com/i18n/utility/boeing-777-300ER.jsp

Also, DFW-GRU will go 77W on 13Dec, DFW/JFK-LHR will begin in February 2013.
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Wed May 23, 2012 10:23 pm

Quoting TWA85 (Thread starter):
Initial routes are DFW and JFK to LHR and GRU.

I hope the emphasis is on the word "initial", otherwise this is just more of the same from AA. Disappointing.
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Wed May 23, 2012 10:29 pm

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 23):
Also, I think sending the 777 to SCL is another good bet. Already, AA is talking about expanding GRU international service. Outside of Brazil, EZE and SCL do incredibly well loadfactor wise. I would hope for an upguage to SCL or perhaps a second DFW-EZE trip (or a third MIA-EZE).

I just flew MIA-SCL last week, and it was 90% full, as a nonrev, we flew over to EZE on LA because the return SCL-DFW flight was filling up. This is the off season for Chile and South America and AA is still filling aircraft.

A 777 to Santiago would be good but do you want to put a plane that LAN may not appreciate being upstaged with ? LAN is an important AA partner where AA makes lots of money.
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 11:01 pm

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 26):

I hope the emphasis is on the word "initial", otherwise this is just more of the same from AA. Disappointing.

Why is using the airplane to two of the largest international markets that AA serves disappointing? LHR is their number one international destination followed by GRU as their second.

Isn't it completely logical that their biggest plane will go to their top two international destinations?

It makes no sense to use the 77W into emerging or new markets like China or India. Other markets seem to be appropriate for the 772 like NRT, FRA, EZE, etc.
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Wed May 23, 2012 11:19 pm

From the PR Announcement sent out


Boeing 777-200ERs
American's entire fleet of 777-200ERs will be redesigned to a two-class cabin configuration to better match capacity and demand. The aircraft cabin will feature unique mood lighting and a dramatic archway and ceiling treatment to create a feeling of spaciousness similar to the 777-300ERs, the first of which American plans to receive later this year. A Business Class walk-up bar stocked with snacks and refreshments is for premium customers. International Wi-Fi will also be available inflight.

So I guess the plan is to place a Bar on the -200s as well.


As for the -300, the final passenger number is 310. It will be loaded into sabre this week so we will finally get a breakdown on each cabin's capacity very soon.
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 11:23 pm

Love the vagueness about weather Main Cabin is 3-3-3 or 2-5-2... NOT.
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Wed May 23, 2012 11:35 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 27):
A 777 to Santiago would be good but do you want to put a plane that LAN may not appreciate being upstaged with ? LAN is an important AA partner where AA makes lots of money.

Well I think from now on the 77W will be the flagship aircraft. Besides, lots of other airlines bring large jets to SCL, IB brings the A346 and its a Oneworld partner, and QF brings it's 747-400s. Also AF flies the 772 there. Not a big deal to have a larger aircraft, besides, LAN's product (hard and soft) is very very nice. While the 772s will be newly reconfigured and will have new J seats, we're talking 10 abreast in coach, which even if the seats are nice, won't hold a candle to LA's comfortable 2-3-2 or whatever they come up with in the 787.

Also, LA and AA only share SCL-MIA, with LA leading with 2x flights with AA having just one (albeit the first to arrive in MIA) and AA is the only one that flies DFW-SCL, which even on a 772 would fill planes and would do very well.
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 11:44 pm

Quoting liftsifter (Reply 30):
Love the vagueness about weather Main Cabin is 3-3-3 or 2-5-2... NOT.

sadly.... neither. it's virtually confirmed at 3-4-3 (see facebook AA page, flyer talk, twitter etc)

just when you thought UA and DL are downgrading their 25K tier elite benefits, AA is giving them an extra bonus known as Y-.
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 11:52 pm

Ten abreast in Economy is not going to compare well with partner BA. Why would I ever pay my own money to fly like that?
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 11:53 pm

Looking forward to when the 77W eventually makes it to MIA. In the meantime, I'll settle for the pics from JFK/DFW/LHR/GRU.
 
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Wed May 23, 2012 11:57 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 33):

Ten abreast in Economy is not going to compare well with partner BA. Why would I ever pay my own money to fly like that?

because AA loves their elites so much that they need to take something away from the kettles in order to reward their frequent flyers ... kinda like reverse robin hood
 
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Thu May 24, 2012 12:01 am

Plus ça change.

Just what AA needs; more seats in the JFK - LHR market.
 
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Thu May 24, 2012 12:37 am

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 35):

Can you explain that statement to me? They will have less premium seats on these refurbished 772s and a relatively small MaincabinExtra section (compared to UA), so less upgrades via SWUs for elites and less of a slam dunk on the E+ for elites. How do elites benefit disproportionately from this refurb?
 
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Thu May 24, 2012 1:26 am

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 31):
Besides, lots of other airlines bring large jets to SCL, IB brings the A346 and its a Oneworld partner, and QF brings it's 747-400s. Also AF flies the 772 there.

For many carriers, it's a range and/or ETOPS issue. Europe-SCL is getting toward the edge of the 343's range.

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 31):
Also, LA and AA only share SCL-MIA, with LA leading with 2x flights with AA having just one (albeit the first to arrive in MIA) and AA is the only one that flies DFW-SCL, which even on a 772 would fill planes and would do very well.

I don't understand your fascination with SCL. Loads are all right, but not markedly higher than other 763 destinations in South America. What am I missing?
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Thu May 24, 2012 1:27 am

Quoting aaexecplat (Reply 37):
Can you explain that statement to me? They will have less premium seats on these refurbished 772s and a relatively small MaincabinExtra section (compared to UA), so less upgrades via SWUs for elites and less of a slam dunk on the E+ for elites. How do elites benefit disproportionately from this refurb?

Because in UA, all elites get Y+ while regulars still get Y.

In AA 77W, *some* elites get Y+ while low tier elites and regulars get Y-. The gap is definitely wider.
 
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Thu May 24, 2012 2:15 am

Quoting boeingfever777 (Reply 19):
Don't see them restarting as they have co-shares for the flight.

Wasn't aware of that - who does AA still codeshare to DEL with? Do they still have their code on 9W flights ex-BRU even though AA has virtually axed BRU?
 
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Thu May 24, 2012 2:31 am

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 39):
Because in UA, all elites get Y+ while regulars still get Y.

However silver elites will/now are only going to get Y+ at check-in rather than at time of booking. Still I think I'm going to move my flying to United from AA for a few reasons listed. Not committed yet but I don't have a good outlook for the fact that there will be at least 8 premium seats less in the 777-200ER fleet than before (37J + 16F going to 45J) and AA's J is very hard to redeem in comparison to their F which is a big reason I've picked for my flying. Also remember that AA said up to 45J so some existing 777s are going to have less than 45J. As I travel to Tokyo at least once a year in premium, I'm not looking forward to paying more. Especially if I'm rewarded less if Doug Parker implements Useless Airways Dividend Miles that are even more impossible to redeem than Skypesos. Assuming the merger goes through but I don't think it can be avoided.
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Thu May 24, 2012 2:39 am

Quoting Concordski (Reply 41):
However silver elites will/now are only going to get Y+ at check-in rather than at time of booking. Still I think I'm going to move my flying to United from AA for a few reasons listed. Not committed yet but I don't have a good outlook for the fact that there will be at least 8 premium seats less in the 777-200ER fleet than before (37J + 16F going to 45J) and AA's J is very hard to redeem in comparison to their F which is a big reason I've picked for my flying. Also remember that AA said up to 45J so some existing 777s are going to have less than 45J. As I travel to Tokyo at least once a year in premium, I'm not looking forward to paying more. Especially if I'm rewarded less if Doug Parker implements Useless Airways Dividend Miles that are even more impossible to redeem than Skypesos. Assuming the merger goes through but I don't think it can be avoided.
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Wow you must be one of the rare few. All those loud voices on flyertalk insist on moving from UA to AA, even only from anecdotal unverified experiences they've read online instead of experienced themselves.

UA gives 6 SWUs to use on mostly flat beds. AA gives you 8 of those but none of their current-in-the-sky fleet has any non-slanted true flat bed.
 
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Thu May 24, 2012 2:45 am

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 42):
Wow you must be one of the rare few. All those loud voices on flyertalk insist on moving from UA to AA, even only from anecdotal unverified experiences they've read online instead of experienced themselves.

I think the evidence is more than anecdotal that UACO has been having some teething pains that have more than a few FF's irritated (or worse). While these things usually blow over, I don't think it'd be healthy of them to ignore it, and certainly there is little consolation in "not being quite as bad as...".

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Thu May 24, 2012 6:29 am

Quoting liftsifter (Reply 30):
Love the vagueness about weather Main Cabin is 3-3-3 or 2-5-2... NOT.

I think the quote from 777STL below could solve your question. No idea about the source and how reliable the info is, however, I would not be surprised at all that yet one more airline opts for the sardine can.

Quoting 777STL (Reply 9):
Well, they'll start reconfiguring them with Y-(3-4-3), Y+, and the deletion of F, for starters.
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Thu May 24, 2012 7:57 am

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 42):
Wow you must be one of the rare few. All those loud voices on flyertalk insist on moving from UA to AA, even only from anecdotal unverified experiences they've read online instead of experienced themselves.

Add me to the list. The last flight that I have booked with UA/LH is next week from NAP to BOS in J via FRA. While actually none of the routing is on UA, ever since the merger and the combination of FF programs, it's been impossible to get anyone on the phone to claim missing miles from trips to Africa. That and a myriad of other on the ground and in the air issues, has prompted me to plan a few future trips with AA/BA, to try them out. With that said, I'll still use UA/LH, since out of NAP, it's just more convenient.

Quoting bohica (Reply 15):
That walk-up bar may make the difference for the premium customer who has a choice of airlines. That customer may choose AA over airlines such as UA or DL, or others who do not have the bar.

I think this is a really nice feature, one that I'm looking forward to trying. I've only flown on UA/LH in J, and they don't have bars. As someone who enjoys 'a few' cocktails on the plane, unless the price difference was astronomical, I'd like to try it out. It's nice to see AA investing in their fleet with premium features to keep up with the competition.
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Thu May 24, 2012 8:36 am

I am fascinated that an airline that is in ‘bankruptcy’ can:
1. Continue to take delivery of two/three 738s a month
2. Will take delivery of a number of 77Ws over the next year.
3. Doing numerous cabin upgrades
4. No dropping a hub or two; nor dramatically decreasing or downgauging of flights.

Just out of curiosity, is there a timetable for when AA is to emerge from bankruptcy?
Next year, they will take delivery of even more aircraft.
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Thu May 24, 2012 1:23 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 33):

Ten abreast in Economy is not going to compare well with partner BA. Why would I ever pay my own money to fly like that?

Well said. For someone buying a Y ticket DFW-LHR, why wouldn't I just go on BA or AA's other flights (767, 772) and get a normal width Y seat, instead of being stuffed in EK style?
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RE: AA Has Announced Its' Initial 777-300ER Schedule

Thu May 24, 2012 1:30 pm

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 26):

I hope the emphasis is on the word "initial", otherwise this is just more of the same from AA. Disappointing.

Did you really expect AA to use it's largest aircraft to introduce a new route? What will be disappointing is if AA doesn't use the extra 772s or subsequent 763s to open a new route...

Quoting carpethead (Reply 46):
I am fascinated that an airline that is in ‘bankruptcy’ can:
1. Continue to take delivery of two/three 738s a month
2. Will take delivery of a number of 77Ws over the next year.
3. Doing numerous cabin upgrades
4. No dropping a hub or two; nor dramatically decreasing or downgauging of flights.

Just out of curiosity, is there a timetable for when AA is to emerge from bankruptcy?
Next year, they will take delivery of even more aircraft.
The US industry is finding new ways of defining ‘bankruptcy.’

AA needed big changes during bankruptcy, some of them involve spending money to make more money, items #1-3 are some of those items.
 
qf002
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RE: AA Has Announced Its' Initial 777-300ER Schedule

Thu May 24, 2012 1:53 pm

Quoting chopchop767 (Reply 45):
Quoting bohica (Reply 15):
That walk-up bar may make the difference for the premium customer who has a choice of airlines. That customer may choose AA over airlines such as UA or DL, or others who do not have the bar.

I think this is a really nice feature, one that I'm looking forward to trying. I've only flown on UA/LH in J, and they don't have bars. As someone who enjoys 'a few' cocktails on the plane, unless the price difference was astronomical, I'd like to try it out. It's nice to see AA investing in their fleet with premium features to keep up with the competition.

It won't be a bar with a bartender able to mix drinks etc. It will just be a space in the galley where you can help yourself to a drink and some snacks, probably very similar to what Air NZ has just introduced to the 77W, or what QF has had on board their aircraft for years.
 
mogandoCI
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RE: AA Has Announced Its' Initial 777-300ER Schedule

Thu May 24, 2012 2:06 pm

Quoting United787 (Reply 48):
Did you really expect AA to use it's largest aircraft to introduce a new route? What will be disappointing is if AA doesn't use the extra 772s or subsequent 763s to open a new route...

Apparently some IQ 200 people on this forum think AA would launched ULH flights like MIA-NRT or DFW-HKG on their largest plane with unproven yield economics based on nothing but some obscure PDEW figures .. purely for the sake of hub-to-hub.