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Airbus To Offer Wider Seats For Obese On A320

Fri May 25, 2012 11:24 am

As article is stating with 1/3 of US population obese, and most probably Australia,UK etc this could be a lucrative offer for airlines:

Quote: "The company offers two 50-centimetre seats either side of the A320's single aisle instead of three 45cm seats either side." Taking advantage of the wider airframe than a 737.

Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/travel/tra...-20120525-1z8t8.html#ixzz1vsarP2Vt
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RE: Airbus To Offer Wider Seats For Obese On A320

Fri May 25, 2012 11:36 am

Hmmm, I'm not entirely sure what the story is here...

I have to agree with this "readers comment":

QUOTE: "So the A320 has 3 seats each side of the aisle, the same as the 737. Business class (first class in the US) has 2 seats either side of the aisle, which is exactly what's being offered here. The only difference will be the leg room - think business class seats with economy class leg room. Any airline can specify the configuration of seats on its planes. This is hardly a news story, except a beat up of overweight passengers yet again."


If the airlines perceived whatever problem it is Airbus claims to be rectifying then they could easily have fixed it. And they can still do it equally effectively on a 737!?!

If Airbus were saying that they could stretch the seats wider in a 3-3 config then, sure, that might be a story. But 2-2???

Have I missed something?
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Fri May 25, 2012 12:16 pm

What the article is saying is that you will have

45-45-50 and 50-45-45 in the cabin
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RE: Airbus To Offer Wider Seats For Obese On A320

Fri May 25, 2012 12:28 pm

Quoting Sandgroper (Thread starter):
Taking advantage of the wider airframe than a 737.

Remind me again how much wider the A320 is over the 737.

Quoting bestwestern (Reply 2):
What the article is saying is that you will have

45-45-50 and 50-45-45 in the cabin

I'm still confused, since the 737 seats more than the A320 by being longer if an airline opts to use the same seats they would beat those numbers, unless these are special seats that can only be installed on the A320?
 
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Fri May 25, 2012 12:38 pm

Jetblue & Virgin America first to offer these seats?

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Fri May 25, 2012 12:49 pm

Quoting par13del (Reply 3):
Quoting bestwestern (Reply 2):
What the article is saying is that you will have

45-45-50 and 50-45-45 in the cabin

I'm still confused, since the 737 seats more than the A320 by being longer if an airline opts to use the same seats they would beat those numbers, unless these are special seats that can only be installed on the A320?

The 320's cabin is wider by about 7 in (or 17.5 cm), so it is more feasible to fit two extra-wide (50 cm or 20 in) seats per row in an A320 than in a 737.
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Fri May 25, 2012 12:50 pm

How about configuring the Y cabin as 3 by 3 with only the last 1-2 rows having the 2 x 2 configuration with the wider seats. Charge a premium for the wider seats (less than the cost of two Y tickets) and make it an option only available at the gate. That way there will always be some sort of screening prior to boarding should an obese passenger require the seat. This also means they cannot all be bought up before the flight by passengers who are not obese/requiring the extra room.
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Fri May 25, 2012 12:55 pm

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 6):
How about configuring the Y cabin as 3 by 3 with only the last 1-2 rows having the 2 x configuration with the wider seats.

I don't think the proposal is about a 2 + 2 configuration in economy, but about a 3 + 3 configuration in which 2 of the 6 seats are extra wide (20 in instead of 17 in), making use of the extra 7 inches in the 320 cabin with respect to the 737. Airlines could still charge a premium for those seats.
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Fri May 25, 2012 12:55 pm

Quoting bestwestern (Reply 2):
What the article is saying is that you will have

45-45-50 and 50-45-45 in the cabin

Are you sure?

The article says: "The company offers two 50-centimetre seats either side of the A320's single aisle instead of three 45cm seats either side." ---> to me that means 2-2 as opposed to 3-3
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Fri May 25, 2012 12:56 pm

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 8):
The article says: "The company offers two 50-centimetre seats either side of the A320's single aisle instead of three 45cm seats either side." ---> to me that means 2-2 as opposed to 3-3

That doesn't make much sense since 50+50 = 100 and 45+45+45 = 135. What happens with those extra 35 cm??
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Fri May 25, 2012 12:58 pm

Quoting UALWN (Reply 9):
That doesn't make much sense since 50+50 = 100 and 45+45+45 = 135. What happens with those extra 35 cm??

That was my thinking at the outset... maybe bestwestern is right and the journo who wrote the article got the wrong end of the stick
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Fri May 25, 2012 1:06 pm

I though they meant a 2-3 seating, like an MD-80.
 
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Fri May 25, 2012 1:10 pm

It is a thought, but the problem is, you get a lot less seats into the airplane, so does it make sense for an airline to offer that? Either these seats have to be far more expensive or it won't happen. Airline won't simply remove many seats out of an airplane without any form of compensation.

I am sure many other people want to sit on these seats as well, as you have simply more private space for yourself.

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Fri May 25, 2012 1:12 pm

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 12):
It is a thought, but the problem is, you get a lot less seats into the airplane, so does it make sense for an airline to offer that?

Nope. I believe, as mentioned by bestwestern above, that this is about a 17 in - 17 in - 20 in - aisle - 20 in - 17 in - 17 in configuration, with no loss of seats.
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Fri May 25, 2012 1:14 pm

I think Air Transport World makes it much easyer to understand:

"The current standard A320 economy seat is 18 in. wide compared to the 17-in. Boeing 737 seat. In a 3-3 configuration, the A320 Extra Wide Seat would be 20 in. wide, while each middle and window seat would be narrowed to match the standard 17-in. 737 seat."

http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engine...-carriers-eye-wider-a320-seat-0524

So instead of 6 18-inch seats, Airbus would reduce the width to 17 inches, except for the aisle seat on each side which would be 20 inches wide. Math makes sense to the last inch, calculate yourself.

[Edited 2012-05-25 06:15:16]
 
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Fri May 25, 2012 1:17 pm

Quoting UALWN (Reply 13):
Nope. I believe, as mentioned by bestwestern above, that this is about a 17 in - 17 in - 20 in - aisle - 20 in - 17 in - 17 in configuration, with no loss of seats.

I see what you mean. Then it should work. But I am sure airlines will charge extra for the wider seat. Like some do already for emergency exit row...

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Fri May 25, 2012 1:20 pm

I'd rather get a double armrest on the middle seats so no one has to share.
 
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Fri May 25, 2012 1:25 pm

Quoting PezySPU (Reply 14):
So instead of 6 18-inch seats, Airbus would reduce the width to 17 inches, except for the aisle seat on each side which would be 20 inches wide. Math makes sense to the last inch, calculate yourself.

That makes sense. They can call them the Fresno seats, and charge a premium for them.
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Fri May 25, 2012 1:27 pm

Didn't Austrian have a wider middle seat in the past?
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Fri May 25, 2012 1:32 pm

Quoting PezySPU (Reply 14):
So instead of 6 18-inch seats, Airbus would reduce the width to 17 inches, except for the aisle seat on each side which would be 20 inches wide.

Now the problem becomes that the majority of pax on the a/c will now be sitting in smaller 17" seats same as on the "cramped" 737, how does one then sell the wider fuse as a benefit?
 
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Fri May 25, 2012 1:43 pm

Quoting PezySPU (Reply 14):
In a 3-3 configuration, the A320 Extra Wide Butt Seat would be 20 in. wide, while each middle and window seat would be narrowed to match the standard 17-in. 737 seat.

Great news! I think I'll have waffles with strawberries and whipped cream for breakfast, and head over to the buffet for lunch!  
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I see what you mean. Then it should work.

Yes, but it may become the airline equivalent of the "short bus" - there may be a stigma attached to using the "fattie" seat.
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Fri May 25, 2012 1:43 pm

This story was being reported by Flight International during the Interiors show back in February:

http://www.emagazine.flightinternati...com/1W4f34ef330ca49012.cde/page/10
 
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Fri May 25, 2012 1:50 pm

Quoting solnabo (Reply 4):
Jetblue & Virgin America first to offer these seats?

According to SeatGuru, Virgin America seats are a non-standard 19.7" wide already. JetBlue uses a more conventional 17.8"...
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Fri May 25, 2012 1:59 pm

If you want wider seats or just 2 on each side it already exists, it's called F class...

Next thing you know airlines will move F to the back and call it Economy For Larger Customers!  

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Fri May 25, 2012 2:04 pm

Quoting UALWN (Reply 5):
The 320's cabin is wider by about 7 in (or 17.5 cm), so it is more feasible to fit two extra-wide (50 cm or 20 in) seats per row in an A320 than in a 737.

Does that still hold true for the newer 737s? I'm under the impression that the newer interiors are wider by placing the plastic fittings(don't know the technical term) closer to the exterior of the airplane.
 
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Fri May 25, 2012 2:09 pm

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 15):
I see what you mean. Then it should work. But I am sure airlines will charge extra for the wider seat. Like some do already for emergency exit row...

Of course they will, that's the whole point. i don't believe for a second that they will give these wider seats away for "free" just because someone is obese. Anyone will be able to purchase those. At least that's how I think it will be done.

Quoting par13del (Reply 19):
Now the problem becomes that the majority of pax on the a/c will now be sitting in smaller 17" seats same as on the "cramped" 737, how does one then sell the wider fuse as a benefit?

Thus creating more demand for an "upgrade", which would bring more revenue.
 
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Fri May 25, 2012 2:37 pm

Quoting airbazar (Reply 25):

Exactly! It's basically "Super E+" - granted they didn't discuss legroom, but imagine how you could choose standard Y seat (width and pitch), E+ (extra pitch), Super E+ (wider and extra pitch), and charge accordingly. That is a brilliant idea for airlines I'd think, since retaining 6-across doesn't reduce density, and if it's part of an E+ row, doesn't reduce density any more than that row already does by definition.
 
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Fri May 25, 2012 3:04 pm

I'm not obese at all and I'd pay extra for a 20" seat. My shoulders are wider than 17" and are always getting in my neighbors' way. This is a compelling way for Airbus to turn lemons (its fuselage that's wider than necessary) into lemonade for its customers.

Quoting AM744 (Reply 24):
Does that still hold true for the newer 737s? I'm under the impression that the newer interiors are wider by placing the plastic fittings(don't know the technical term) closer to the exterior of the airplane

Not on the 737. Those sidewalls are already pretty thin. That's an idea that is likely to be implemented on the next-generation 777.

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Fri May 25, 2012 3:17 pm

Quoting bestwestern (Reply 2):

Still nothing new. Many manufacturers, including Bombardier, offer seats where the centre seat is wider than the window or aisle. This includes several A320 operators. Even the old "convertible" seats which used to be common in European short haul business class had the middle seat (on the 3 side) a bit wider than the other two in most airlines' configurations.

But RyanairGuru is right, it is not a big deal.
 
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Fri May 25, 2012 4:06 pm

id also pay extra for more room and im not obese. They need to put obese people on a boat instead.
 
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Fri May 25, 2012 4:36 pm

This would be a point worth mentioning if they offered a couple of treadmills per row.   

However, a wider seat for obese passengers while the seat is narrower for non obese passengers doesn't sound all that great. In fact, it sounds a lot like the same as today. My point being that as a non-obese passenger, my seat space is always given up to those persons of wider girth. I like the Soutwest point of charging for an additional seat. Why make the non-obese passengers suffer?

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Fri May 25, 2012 5:28 pm

Quoting airbazar (Reply 25):
Quoting wilco737 (Reply 15):
I see what you mean. Then it should work. But I am sure airlines will charge extra for the wider seat. Like some do already for emergency exit row...

Of course they will, that's the whole point. i don't believe for a second that they will give these wider seats away for "free" just because someone is obese. Anyone will be able to purchase those. At least that's how I think it will be done.

Exactly. Since they'd be isle seats, the airlines could charge even more for them, and plenty of people probably would pay for it just for more room. Just like any other "preferred" seat in Y.
 
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Fri May 25, 2012 5:34 pm

Yeah. The thing here is not "Fat Americans". Its a economy plus offering that is in superior in several dimensions, not just one.

Quoting par13del (Reply 3):
I'm still confused, since the 737 seats more than the A320 by being longer if an airline opts to use the same seats they would beat those numbers, unless these are special seats that can only be installed on the A320?

You're missing the point I think.


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Fri May 25, 2012 6:02 pm

Quoting UALWN (Reply 5):
The 320's cabin is wider by about 7 in (or 17.5 cm), so it is more feasible to fit two extra-wide (50 cm or 20 in) seats per row in an A320 than in a 737.

I really like this idea. It is a clever way for Airbus to use the A320 wider fuselage advantage. I'm never interesed in purchasing economy plus becuase the extra pitch is no big deal to me. However, I would pay a bit more for the wider seat.
I also allows the bigger passenger to take advantage of the adjacent isle a bit to accomodate his girth.

A bigger middle seat, helps a little, but having the bigger seat on the isle really helps the other passengers be a bit more comfortable.
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Fri May 25, 2012 6:08 pm

Quoting odwyerpw (Reply 33):
A bigger middle seat, helps a little, but having the bigger seat on the isle really helps the other passengers be a bit more comfortable.

Yeah but if the post below is accurate, 4 persons are going from 18" to 17" seats to accomodate 2 persons in 20" they would be loosing comfort not gaining. We all agree that the "obese" person in the aisle is better off.

Quoting PezySPU (Reply 14):
"The current standard A320 economy seat is 18 in. wide compared to the 17-in. Boeing 737 seat. In a 3-3 configuration, the A320 Extra Wide Seat would be 20 in. wide, while each middle and window seat would be narrowed to match the standard 17-in. 737 seat."
 
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Fri May 25, 2012 6:18 pm

Quoting cschleic (Reply 31):
Exactly. Since they'd be isle seats, the airlines could charge even more for them, and plenty of people probably would pay for it just for more room. Just like any other "preferred" seat in Y.

Would these come with an umbrella drink?   
 
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Fri May 25, 2012 6:29 pm

The article states that Airbus is offering wider seats. In reality, I think this is a marketing push by Airbus which is a good one. Their cabin is wider, so they can put wider aisle seats in if the airline desires. It might be a revenue opportunity.

In reality, Airbus is only using this for marketing reasons. The airlines are the ones who buy the seats from the seat suppliers. It is up to Recaro, Weber, or B/E to come up with a seat and sell it to the airlines. If they want wider aisle seats, then the airlines can install them. This isn't anything new.
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Fri May 25, 2012 6:39 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 36):
In reality, Airbus is only using this for marketing reasons.

Of course they are!! And why not? Their (Airbus - 320) narrowbody can accomodate customers of size in coach while maintianing a similar level of comfort as their primary competitor's (Boeing -737) narrowbody for the remaining passengers.

Their primary competitor cannot accomodate a customer of size without:
1. Crowding other passengers in coach.
2. Requiring the customer of size purchase an additional seat.

This is an advantage worth mentioning. It's a simple solution to an ever 'growing' problem. Their primary competitor cannot implement this solution.

Seat suppliers are not going to mention it, because they do not want to pitch one manufacturer against another. Afterall, they want to sell seats to both manufacturers, whether they are 17", 18" or 20" form factors.
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Fri May 25, 2012 6:49 pm

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 27):
I'm not obese at all and I'd pay extra for a 20" seat. My shoulders are wider than 17" and are always getting in my neighbors' way.

I'm glad to hear your shoulders are not wider than your tuchus, it's not healthy.

Sadly, that wasn't the case for the woman I was sat next to for four hours. Before I knew it, she popped up the arm rest and her flabby butt cheek was pressed up against me for four hours. One of the most unpleasant flights for me, ever. I would have paid to move her to a 20 incher, but I bet she still would have spilled over to her neighbor's great displeasure.

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 27):
This is a compelling way for Airbus to turn lemons (its fuselage that's wider than necessary) into lemonade for its customers.

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Fri May 25, 2012 7:03 pm

Quoting odwyerpw (Reply 37):
Seat suppliers are not going to mention it, because they do not want to pitch one manufacturer against another.

It wouldn't surprise me if they were doing it as part of their negotiations. They just aren't as public. John Leahy and Airbus love press.
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Fri May 25, 2012 7:38 pm

Quoting AApilot2b (Reply 30):
owever, a wider seat for obese passengers while the seat is narrower for non obese passengers doesn't sound all that great.

I agree. So now, the average joe who manages to not wet his pants at the sight of a doughnut has to sacrifice seat width (for the same money) because Mr. Damn-I-haven't-eaten-anything-in-30-minutes-with-large-soda needs a shoehorn to get in a regular seat.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 38):
to dive into a pile of manure

A 17cm wider fuselage makes the A320 a lemon/pile of manure?
 
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Fri May 25, 2012 10:14 pm

Quoting francoflier (Reply 40):
Quoting Revelation (Reply 38): to dive into a pile of manureA 17cm wider fuselage makes the A320 a lemon/pile of manure? I'm glad the airlines didn't notice, then...

It's an english expression used in the united states to describe optimistic people.... When an Optimist encounters a pile of poop, he jumps in, begins searching and says, "With all of this poop, there has to be a pony in here someplace".

He was not calling the A320 a pile of manure (I don't think anyone here on A.net doubts the A320 is a fine plane, and often a better plane than the 737 on many missions), but rather was commenting on JL's optimism. John's ability to turn a perceived negative (fuselage wider than necessary as mentioned by seabosdca, a claim I disagree with...as I like 18" seats as opposed to 17" seats, thank you very much) into a positve.

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Fri May 25, 2012 11:07 pm

Airbus should also start thinking of making a wider over the wing exit for these customers   
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Sat May 26, 2012 8:00 am

Quoting par13del (Reply 34):
Yeah but if the post below is accurate, 4 persons are going from 18" to 17" seats to accomodate 2 persons in 20" they would be loosing comfort not gaining.

They would. But the Airbus point would be that if they were on a 737 their seat would be 17"-wide anyway.... Which is actually inaccurate since airlines play around with the width of the aisle too...
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Sat May 26, 2012 9:08 am

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 6):
How about configuring the Y cabin as 3 by 3 with only the last 1-2 rows having the 2 x 2 configuration with the wider seats.

That's a really good suggestion. The last row on a BA A320 juts out across the galley access. If you are sitting there the trolley always bumps you on the elbows.

Having 2 large seats either side of the last row would be good for everyone. However, if 4 large people are sitting on the last row it may cause the tail to scrap on take off.  
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RE: Airbus To Offer Wider Seats For Obese On A320

Sat May 26, 2012 1:51 pm

Quoting francoflier (Reply 40):
A 17cm wider fuselage makes the A320 a lemon/pile of manure?
Quoting odwyerpw (Reply 41):
(fuselage wider than necessary as mentioned by seabosdca

Just to clarify... I was talking from an airline revenue perspective, not a passenger perspective.

To date, the airlines haven't been able to derive any revenue premium from the A320's wider fuselage, and yet it creates a cost disadvantage. The narrower fuselage and resulting lower weight and drag is one big part of why the 737NG remains competitive despite the A320's other advantages.

This is a way to use that wider fuselage to generate a revenue premium.
 
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RE: Airbus To Offer Wider Seats For Obese On A320

Sat May 26, 2012 2:42 pm

Quoting Sandgroper (Thread starter):
1/3 of US population obese

You have to be very careful with this. While I agree that many people (and many Americans) are overweight - the definition of "obese" has been politically motivated to try to shame people into loosing weight - and also by special interests who want to get government (tax) money. The governments defn is based on BMI - body mass index (http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/bmi_tbl.htm). If you have a BMI of 25 to 29.9 you are "Overweight". If you are over 30 - you are obese.
BMI does not measure fat - but how much you weigh for you height - a muscular man can easily exceed it.
I'm 6 ft tall. If I way more than 177 lbs, I'm overweight. If I way more 213 lbs, I'm "obese".
Guess what, by that measure I'm considered obese - I weigh 220. However, I would challenge any of you to call me "obese" by looking at me, and I'm certainly not in the category that most people consider obese. My shoulders are broader than my hips, by a lot. I happen to be a barrel chested fellow - something about growing up at 9000 ft elevation (I amazed snorkelers in Hawaii related to how long I could stay down). I'm not a body builder or muscle man.
I fit in a standard (width) economy seat with no problem at all - not even tight - heck - I usually have my laptop slipped down on my side.

Next week - I'll take my "arduous" physical fitness test for my wildland fire certification. That requires; 45 lb pack, walk (no running or jogging allow), 3 miles in 45 minutes. That is a 4mph pace - which is very a very fast walk. The arduous test is quite hard - more than one person dies each year nation wide taking it. It is considered arduous for a reason - it is.

I'm obese? I don't think so.   

The point is - any statistic you hear based on government defn of obesity is more political than factual.

Whose going to decide who is "obese". Of course - nobody.

This is purely about revenue generation. If airlines can charge more for a wider seat, and get away with a narrower seat for the rest, they will do so. Just put my wife on a UA flight for a dog show (with the dog). Let's look at the costs. The ticket was $300ish (RT). The dog (in cabin) was $250 RT. Because she used her "carry on allowance" for the dog - she checked 2 bags. $120 RT. Economy plus, $70. So - the $300 ticket had $440 of fees tacked on. Now- if they put these on the aisle, and charge - say $70 extra for that seat (aisle is easier with the under seat dog carrier), they just made $510 in "fees".

Quoting PezySPU (Reply 14):
So instead of 6 18-inch seats, Airbus would reduce the width to 17 inches, except for the aisle seat on each side which would be 20 inches wide. Math makes sense to the last inch, calculate yourself.

Airbus is marketing - the airline is offering.

Quoting AApilot2b (Reply 30):
However, a wider seat for obese passengers while the seat is narrower for non obese passengers doesn't sound all that great.

Agreed. But typical.
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RE: Airbus To Offer Wider Seats For Obese On A320

Sat May 26, 2012 3:06 pm

I was always under the impression that seats were manufactured by a third party and shipped to the factory and installed by the aircraft manufacturer (Airbus)?

i would be curious if any operators will elect to purchase this option. It seems as though the traditional 3X3 seating, with the middle seat being blocked off (and the customer in question charged the appropriate fee) allows for greater flexibility and utilization of the aircraft in daily operations- no?
 
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RE: Airbus To Offer Wider Seats For Obese On A320

Sat May 26, 2012 3:17 pm

Rediculous.
If you don't fit in a Y seat then buy the larger seat in the front cabin.
No need for this stupidity.
Some people don't get it. Business is about making MONEY!
 
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