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Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Mon May 28, 2012 9:31 pm

CNN is reporting that Air Canada flight 1, a 777, made an emergency landing back in Toronto after an engine failure. There are reports that debris from the engine has smashed into the ground causing damage to cars and buildings and an investigation has been launched.

Here is a news story.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Mon May 28, 2012 9:42 pm

Any information on the engine maker?
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Mon May 28, 2012 9:47 pm

Quoting GRIVely (Reply 1):
Any information on the engine maker?


All B77Ws and 77Ls are equipped with GE90s. AC has the -115 (BL) on the Ws and the -110s on the -200LRs.

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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Mon May 28, 2012 9:47 pm

Quoting GRIVely (Reply 1):

They have GE Engines
 
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Mon May 28, 2012 10:01 pm

 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Mon May 28, 2012 10:09 pm

Have there been previous uncontained failures of GE90'S?
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Mon May 28, 2012 10:19 pm

According to AC's website, AC001 is now scheduled to arrive at NRT 0536 (May 29).

Quoting philipkk (Reply 4):
There are a few pics and a video report
http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local...4Home

I hope they hand those pieces over to the (C)TSB .

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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Mon May 28, 2012 11:35 pm

This thread was started earlier:
Cyyz Runway 23 Shutdown (by kl692 May 28 2012 in Civil Aviation)

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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 12:07 am

The top piece in the photo from the CP24 website looks like a turbine blade from one of the lower stages of the engine. The bluish tinge leads me to believe it was in a high-temp area, much like the internal combustion stages.

http://geaviationservicesolutions.com/2011/01/lib/images/web/article5-image1-full.jpg
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 12:12 am

An updated story from CBC. The passengers will overnight in Toronto and depart on a new flight tomorrow.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...nto-pearson-emergency-landing.html
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 12:16 am

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 8):
The top piece in the photo from the CP24 website looks like a turbine blade from one of the lower stages of the engine. The bluish tinge leads me to believe it was in a high-temp area, much like the internal combustion stages.

My initial impression was a turbine blade or blades, likely from the HP turbine, got shed and exited the back end. GE90s I believe have passed the goose test.
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 12:18 am

I guess the question is how long is AC going to be down an Airplane (not to mention a valuable one) till GE can come down and scratch their heads, then finally decide on sending down a new engine to put on. Then do the actual act of replacing said engine. From experience, I can tell you being down an airplane like that is a pain in the you know what...
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 12:18 am

To us non-techies, uncontained failure does that mean not contained within the engine or a puncture of the fuselage?
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 12:31 am

Just got back from the airport, I have video of the A/C taxing to gate on Youtube. not the greatest video I have done but it is something. the first 10 sec is not that great

http://youtu.be/NIoYzZdYp40

[Edited 2012-05-28 17:36:58]
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 12:48 am

Quoting par13del (Reply 12):
To us non-techies, uncontained failure does that mean not contained within the engine or a puncture of the fuselage?

My understanding has always been that an uncontained failure would describe a situation in which parts exited the engine by puncturing through the engine case or containment ring. True uncontained failures are rare. I suspect when the analysis is done, this AC incident will be declared a contained failure, as the parts most likely exited the tailpipe.
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 12:51 am

Just curious, a Toronto to Narita 777 would have a full fuel load on board and this occurred just after takeoff . How would they get it back down on the ground so quickly without blowing some tires ?
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 12:53 am

Great work by the flight crew bringing her back in one piece!

Quoting virgin747 (Reply 11):
I guess the question is how long is AC going to be down an Airplane (not to mention a valuable one)

This is about the worst thing that could happen to AC right now, the entire fleet but especially the 777's are running to the wall as it is. This is probably going to have a ripple effect down the line, and depending on how long it's out for there might be some immediate down gauges on some flights. Fingers crossed it is just the engine, and GE/AC can get a new one in ASAP. Thankfully they got it back to YYZ, and not some small airport elsewhere.

Quoting par13del (Reply 12):
Uncontained failure does that mean not contained within the engine or a puncture of the fuselage?

It means that pieces have exited the engines, but it does not necessarily mean the fuselage/wings have been punctured by the expelled debris.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 12:58 am

Quoting YOWVIEWER (Reply 15):
Just curious, a Toronto to Narita 777 would have a full fuel load on board and this occurred just after takeoff . How would they get it back down on the ground so quickly without blowing some tires ?

They did a fuel dump, the A/C must have return after an hour or so.
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 1:11 am

To kl692,,

Great video in real time! Quite an entourage of emergency vehicles close behind as the A/C taxis to the terminal. Both engine nacelles look intact which favors a contained failure. But we need to see the engines and fuselage close up before coming to a more definitive conclusion.

This is not the first 777 to have engine failure on/after take off. Several years ago, CO 9, EWR to NRT had an engine failure on take off and had to do an emergency return. This was a contained failure.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 1:15 am

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 8):
The bluish tinge leads me to believe it was in a high-temp area, much like the internal combustion stages.
Quoting B757forever (Reply 14):
My understanding has always been that an uncontained failure would describe a situation in which parts exited the engine by puncturing through the engine case or containment ring.

   Any parts that go out the nozzles are a 'contained failure.'

Quoting virgin747 (Reply 11):
I guess the question is how long is AC going to be down an Airplane (not to mention a valuable one) till GE can come down and scratch their heads, then finally decide on sending down a new engine to put on.

I doubt there will be a delay. The engine should already be on its way (if not half way to on the wing) with a new nacelle. The will need to pull fuel filters and sample aircraft fuel. The rest will be pulled and inspected off aircraft. The issue is the holiday weekend. Unless aircraft structure was damaged, the aircraft should fly within a week. The engine? It will be torn apart and studied in detail for a long time. Someone owes AC a new engine... even if its AC itself.

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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 1:59 am

Of course one has to wonder how this major failure happened. Could bird ingestion be a factor or is this some mx or original part flaw that was missed? I also wonder if their is some flaw in this GE engine series as there has been several major engine failures of them used on 777's.

Just be glad no one was injured or killed, just some replaceable damage, most likely covered by insurance.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 2:05 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 19):
Any parts that go out the nozzles are a 'contained failure.'

Appreciate the clarification..

Quoting kl692 (Reply 13):
Just got back from the airport, I have video of the A/C taxing to gate on Youtube. not the greatest video I have done but it is something. the first 10 sec is not that great

http://youtu.be/NIoYzZdYp40

Thanks for posting this!

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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 2:18 am

Quoting ANM604 (Reply 16):
This is about the worst thing that could happen to AC right now, the entire fleet but especially the 777's are running to the wall as it is. This is probably going to have a ripple effect down the line, and depending on how long it's out for there might be some immediate down gauges on some flights. Fingers crossed it is just the engine, and GE/AC can get a new one in ASAP. Thankfully they got it back to YYZ, and not some small airport elsewhere.

If not a single 777 is available and C-FITW is non-operational for an extended period, does AC have any 763s to take over 001 for a while? Or would they rather pull a 777 from somewhere else? YYZ-NRT was operated by a 763 prior to the T7s, no?

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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 3:17 am

Quoting ANM604 (Reply 16):
This is about the worst thing that could happen to AC right now, the entire fleet but especially the 777's are running to the wall as it is.

Indeed it is. I was just discussing it on this thread: Air Canada Oddball Heathrow Movements

I hope this doesn't cause any more delayed flights like the mess at Heathrow!
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 3:25 am

Quoting philipkk (Reply 4):
There are a few pics and a video report
http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local...4Home

Call off the TSB, I think the CP24 reporter at the scene has solved the cause of the incident. After picking up and smelling one of the pieces that fell from the aircraft, she commented that "it smells like gasoline". Of course we know that that will likely cause less than optimal performance on most GE90 engines.
Mind you, the pieces did land in and around a PetroCan gas station, so maybe that has something to do with it. It couldn't possibly be that our intrepid reporter doesn't know the difference between the smells of gasoline, kerosene smells or any one of the combustible fluids in aircraft engines.
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 3:28 am

How many big GE90 failures have occurred in the past? Any on the GE90-110 that the B777-200LR/-300ER use?
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 3:55 am

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 25):
How many big GE90 failures have occurred in the past? Any on the GE90-110 that the B777-200LR/-300ER use?

AC had 2 77Ws divert to Alaska on flights to Asia (one to Fairbanks in 2008 and one to Anchorage in 2009). Both required an engine change and the engines had to be trucked to Alaska. The one for the 77W in FAI came all the way from YYZ, a road trip of about 4,000 miles that took about a week. Both aircraft were out of service for about 2 weeks.

I believe one involved the gearbox and the other some damaged turbine blades.

I also recall a QR 77W that diverted to Gander in September 2008 due to an engine failure and required an engine change. Summary of that one from the Transport Canada occurence reporting site:

UPDATE TSB: A08A0115: The Qatar Airways Boeing 777-300ER aircraft was operating as QTR052 from Washington, DC to Doha, Qatar at FL370. At 02:25 NDT, when approximately 175nm west of Gander, the crew declared a Mayday due to an engine failure (GE90-115B); they requested and were cleared descent to FL200 and a diversion to Gander, NL. Clearance to dump fuel approximately 30nm N of Gander was requested and received. The aircraft landed without further incident at 03:16 NDT. The engine, serial number unknown, had failed in cruise flight. During an unsuccessful relight attempt, EGT limitations were exceeded. Subsequent inspection revealed tiny particles in the tailpipe and debris on chip detectors. The engine was removed and will be returned to the manufacturer for further examination.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 4:21 am

Quoting ANM604 (Reply 16):
This is about the worst thing that could happen to AC right now, the entire fleet but especially the 777's are running to the wall as it is. This is probably going to have a ripple effect down the line, and depending on how long it's out for there might be some immediate down gauges on some flights. Fingers crossed it is just the engine, and GE/AC can get a new one in ASAP. Thankfully they got it back to YYZ, and not some small airport elsewhere.

Based on previous AC experience with T7engine failures (2) 1-2 weeks will likely be the service outage for this a/c. I'd err towards a shorter time since they dont have to truck the engine to Alaska.
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 4:48 am

Quoting ANM604 (Reply 16):

This is about the worst thing that could happen to AC right now, the entire fleet but especially the 777's are running to the wall as it is. This is probably going to have a ripple effect down the line, and depending on how long it's out for there might be some immediate down gauges on some flights.

If it's really dire, there is always the short term ACMI solution, which several carriers would be happy to provide, though likely only Atlas or Omni would have the requisite equipment to sub for a 777 of any kind.

[Edited 2012-05-28 21:55:03]
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 4:59 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 26):
AC had 2 77Ws divert to Alaska on flights to Asia (one to Fairbanks in 2008 and one to Anchorage in 2009). Both required an engine change and the engines had to be trucked to Alaska. The one for the 77W in FAI came all the way from YYZ, a road trip of about 4,000 miles that took about a week. Both aircraft were out of service for about 2 weeks.

Did they also have to truck in equipment needed to change the engine? I can't imagine you can simply hang a GE-90 engine from a chain and drop it into position. What sort of equipment is required to change an engine that size and where would an airline get it from?
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 5:39 am

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 27):
Based on previous AC experience with T7engine failures (2) 1-2 weeks will likely be the service outage for this a/c. I'd err towards a shorter time since they dont have to truck the engine to Alaska.

Thank you. However, due to the holiday weekend (many Americans take this week off from work), I think the issue will be getting people out to inspect the airframe. Or maybe it will go quicker as one won't have someone saying 'sample this and that.'

Was there significant nacelle damage? I see pictures of the cars impacted, but not of the engine/nacelle.

Quoting cargolex (Reply 28):
If it's really dire, there is always the short term ACMI solution, which several carriers would be happy to provide, though likely only Atlas or Omni would have the requisite equipment to sub for a 777 of any kind.

Or wet lease a 744... I wouldn't be surprised if one of AC's *A partners wouldn't be willing to help, for the right fee that is.

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 25):
ow many big GE90 failures have occurred in the past?

What do you consider a failure? Only AC? GE had trouble with compressors a year back. Before then KLM (IIRC at JNB) had issues too. That was also a compressor problem. They were allowed to ferry, sans passengers, back to AMS for that repair.

Do not get me wrong, the GE-90-115 is an excellent engine. But it is a high performance engine and that means issues.

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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 5:43 am

A/C 733 is currently under going a #2 engine change. Looks like the LPT let go and there is quite a bit of damage. Aircraft will most likely be out of service for a few days. We do have a spare engine in Top
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 5:51 am

Quoting ANM604 (Reply 16):
This is about the worst thing that could happen to AC right now, the entire fleet but especially the 777's are running to the wall as it is

I'm not familiar with ACs 777 ops... what is going on to cause the fleet to be running thin?
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 6:16 am

Quoting ANM604 (Reply 16):
This is about the worst thing that could happen to AC right now

What are you talking about? The aircraft landed safely with no injuries. If AC were picking bits of airframe out of a carpark I would agree with you but this is just an engine change, not even anything to buff out as far as we know.

Now if any stray engine parts hit the skin it could get a bit more tricky but it is still not close to the worst thing that could happen to AC.
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 6:24 am

Quoting krisyyz (Reply 22):
If not a single 777 is available and C-FITW is non-operational for an extended period, does AC have any 763s to take over 001 for a while? Or would they rather pull a 777 from somewhere else? NRT was operated by a 763 prior to the T7s, no?

At the moment, no not really. 767 fleet is down a frame from last year, and flying has slightly increased. At this point though, 763's are about the only option for subs as it is easier to shuffle flights around to minimize the damage.

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 23):
I hope this doesn't cause any more delayed flights like the mess at Heathrow!

While not directly related, it all comes back to the fleet running at near max capacity, as the summer schedule starts to swing into full effect. LHR has been bad lately, just one of those cycles unfortunately.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 30):
However, due to the holiday weekend

Unfortunately, only our neighbours to the south are able to enjoy the holiday weekend, for us it is a normal work week, so there shouldn't be any delay getting this bird worked on.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 30):
Or wet lease a 744... I wouldn't be surprised if one of AC's *A partners wouldn't be willing to help, for the right fee that is.

While the situation is not that dire, and hopefully does not get that bad, that is one option. However I'm not sure AC would go for the 744, not many routes really need the capacity. However it could definitely help if they decide to combine two dailies into one 744 flight, free up some much needed A/C.

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 32):
I'm not familiar with ACs 777 ops... what is going on to cause the fleet to be running thin?

It's not just the 777 fleet, it's the whole fleet. The drive for increased efficiency has lead to a higher a/c utilization rate, which means the planes are in the air more often. While this is great in terms of revenue generation, it is not so great there are no spares, and planes go down/need checks. Unfortunately, the latest 777 orders should have been placed a year ago, as I don't think the first two planes will be ready until 2013 or so. Short term, I think the best option is to pick up some 763's on the market, and get them up and running ASAP. This would help ease the pressure a bit until the arrival of the five 77W's, and of course, the 787's.

EDIT - This has been a tough week for AC's 777 fleet, as yesterday there were troubles at YVR which lead to some cancellations. Just one of those weeks...

[Edited 2012-05-28 23:51:51]
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 6:27 am

Does this have any effect on AC's ETOPs rating for their 777's?
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 6:31 am

Quoting BoeingVista (Reply 33):
What are you talking about

Err, if you had read the next part of the sentence, and the quote, it probably would have become evident what I was talking about. In case it still doesn't make any sense, I was referring to the operation/fleet perspective, and while it isn't the single worst thing that could happen, losing a 77W for 1-2 weeks as the summer schedule swings into full gear, with no spares, is not a good thing! Hope that clarifies what I meant.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 7:08 am

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 8):
The top piece in the photo from the CP24 website looks like a turbine blade from one of the lower stages of the engine. The bluish tinge leads me to believe it was in a high-temp area, much like the internal combustion stages.

Not to nit pick, but it looks like you've shown a compressor in your photo. Granted, most people would see a liberated blade (or blades) and be unlikely to tell the difference.
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 7:11 am

I am usually near the fence taking pics, but due to the intense heat today was under the shade of the trees across the road. Here is a video I took, sorry for the cars and the obvious fence in the way. Had no idea at the time what the reason was for the escort. I would have actually had a pic of it lining up on Rwy 23 and then perhaps one of it landing, but blame it on the weather  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EWxo78Knv4&feature=youtu.be

And here are the flight details from www.flightaware.com

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8160/7293111840_b738f143d2_b.jpg
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 7:21 am

Quoting Molykote (Reply 37):
Not to nit pick, but it looks like you've shown a compressor in your photo. Granted, most people would see a liberated blade (or blades) and be unlikely to tell the difference.

I don't mean to sound like a noob, but how could you tell that it was a compressor and not a turbine blade?
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 7:26 am

Quoting YOWVIEWER (Reply 15):
Just curious, a Toronto to Narita 777 would have a full fuel load on board and this occurred just after takeoff . How would they get it back down on the ground so quickly without blowing some tires ?
Quoting kl692 (Reply 17):
They did a fuel dump, the A/C must have return after an hour or so.

See the flightaware map. It says it returned in 51 minutes.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 8:43 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 30):
Was there significant nacelle damage? I see pictures of the cars impacted, but not of the engine/nacelle.

Doesn't seem to be any nacelle damage, so everything went out the tube, I suppose.

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 32):
I'm not familiar with ACs 777 ops... what is going on to cause the fleet to be running thin?

They simply don't have enough of them. AC have traditionally been conservative in a/c purchases. 2 more -300ERs next summer, the additional 3 recently announced likely 2014. Then there's the possibilityof 5 more -200LRs.

Quoting ANM604 (Reply 34):
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 30):
However, due to the holiday weekend

Unfortunately, only our neighbours to the south are able to enjoy the holiday weekend, for us it is a normal work week, so there shouldn't be any delay getting this bird worked on.

But we had one the weekend previously...

Quoting ANM604 (Reply 34):
Short term, I think the best option is to pick up some 763's on the market, and get them up and running ASAP

Not sure how many are available, then there's the cabin config issue. Do you make them like the 3 'orphans' that don't have J class ? Or spend the money and time to XM them ?
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 8:47 am

http://www.cp24.com/tl/photo.html?pn...20on%20Monday,%20May%2028,%202012.

Seeing this photo, it's normal that those parts are that 'rusted' or burnt?

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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 9:00 am

Quoting Plainplane (Thread starter):
http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120528/051812_plane_debris/20120528/?hub=CP24Home

"It was hot and it smells like gasoline".

Well, probably something you should touch with your bare hands and sniff then, isn't it?
  
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 9:47 am

Quoting threepoint (Reply 24):
Call off the TSB, I think the CP24 reporter at the scene has solved the cause of the incident. After picking up and smelling one of the pieces that fell from the aircraft, she commented that "it smells like gasoline". Of course we know that that will likely cause less than optimal performance on most GE90 engines.

Oh blessed mercy, it's WONDERFUL to see that our brethren to the north have such staunch, eagle-eyed (and nosed, it appears) reporters presenting us all with Up! To! The! Second! Coverage! and keeping YOU Informed!

Honestly, I wonder how some of those intrepid reporters actually manage to get out of bed successfully.
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 10:35 am

http://www.airliners.net/photo/1134244/L/

This is what it probably looked like, quite concerning that this is still happening years later!
 
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United_fan
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 11:14 am

Quoting traindoc (Reply 18):
This is not the first 777 to have engine failure on/after take off. Several years ago, CO 9, EWR to NRT had an engine failure on take off and had to do an emergency return. This was a contained failure.

Wasn't it a MH 777 taking off from ZRH a few years ago,too? I remember a picture of the engine spewing parts out of it.
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kl692
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 11:36 am

Someone posted on youtube about the A/C being back in service already

"The aircraft was repaired and is now flying Sydney to Hong kong and now one was injured

Jonathen Flanaghan in reply to hkgyyzhkg (Show the comment) 21 minutes ago"

Is this right? if so couldn't have been that much a problem
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strangr
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 11:55 am

I'd say incorrect, It would be a decent haul to replace that and have the transport Canada board do their investigations
(limited) in that amount of time.
 
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RE: Air Canada 777 Uncontained Engine Failure?

Tue May 29, 2012 11:59 am

Quoting United_fan (Reply 46):
Wasn't it a MH 777 taking off from ZRH a few years ago,too?

But they are all Trent engines.

Quoting strangr (Reply 48):
I'd say incorrect, It would be a decent haul to replace that and have the transport Canada board do their investigations
(limited) in that amount of time.

But if it was a simple engine failure, and at a main base with an engine and guys available, then it could be ready by now.
No need to ground the aircraft for investigation. Youve got the broken engine in the hangar to look at.

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