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Was Anybody Here On The ATI DC-8-62CF Charter?

Tue May 29, 2012 7:30 am

I'm dying to see your footage from on-board, please post videos or photos, if possible.

For anybody who is not familiar, a company named Classic Jet Tours did an enthuast charter on an ATI DC-8-62CF (N799AL), the routing was MCC-LGB-MCC. Below is what I captured at LGB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77HAN2N3kwA (Part #1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuFmo3G7yw8 (Part #2)

Thanks so much, I can't wait to see your photos or videos!
 
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Tue May 29, 2012 7:58 am

Absolutely. The only chance to fly on a DC-8 since Air Marshall Islands closed their doors in 1996 (ironically, they used this actual machine). Fantastic experience, have been pinching myself since Saturday - was it all a dream?!

We flew from an ex military field in Sacramento called McClelland Field (MCC) to the birthplace of the DC-8, Long Beach (LGB), spent an hour or two there looking around the abandoned hangars (mind-bogglingly huge) and historic "Fly DC Jets" sign then reboarded and flew back up the coast to MCC. On the departure from LGB, we climbed very steeply at full power, showing off the extraordinary performance of the Diesel Eight (built Dec 67 for SAS, thence to Scanair, Thai, Thai Air Force, Air Marshall Is et al).

FYI this machine has five or six rows of seats (3-3) so while she is a combi, the emphasis is on freight, so only 32 seats and one flight attendant, all of which is at the rear of the aircraft. We carried a "cargo" of ten main gear tires in the forward most underfloor hold to balance out the aircraft, since all the payload was in the passenger cabin at the rear.

ATI were very kind and allowed us full access to the ramp to photograph the DC-8 from every angle at both MCC and LGB, pilots generous with their time before and after the flight answering every single question and giving out their emails etc, and in flight we were allowed to slip through the sliding door at the front of the passenger cabin and enter the cavernous cargo bay in flight. The flight attendant served sandwiches and champagne on both legs in the rear galley, which was very kind of ATI - and inspired the best line of the day (or decade), "See you in the cargo hold for a champagne party!" Which is what happened. Btw a highlight was the group itself, couldn't have asked for a better crowd, who had come from Norway, Australia, UK, Belgium, Germany, United Arab Emirates, Canada and of course the USA.

Classic Jet Tours is a part-time business by Sean Burris, who is actually a teenager (17? 18?), who chartered a BAC-111 for an enthusiasts' charter from and back to Dallas Love Field last summer for a business project as part of his high school coursework - the success of that fantastic day out led to the DC-8. By the time he's in his 30s, I guess he'll be CEO of jetBlue. For now, cross your fingers for a 707 or 727-100 in the near future.

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RE: Was Anybody Here On The ATI DC-8-62CF Charter?

Tue May 29, 2012 8:00 am

PS I don't know how to post photos on a.net threads, but since photo legend Sam Chui was along for the ride, you shouldn't have to wait too long til there's some really fab uploads to the data base!
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Tue May 29, 2012 8:06 am

Good to hear that you were on board, cedarjet! What a great opportunity, glad you took part in it. I can't wait to see Sam's photos!
 
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Tue May 29, 2012 8:21 am

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 1):
For now, cross your fingers for a 707 or 727-100 in the near future.

My fingers are firmly crossed.    I imagine it won't be cheap, but I'd be willing to give up quite a bit for a 707 flight   
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Tue May 29, 2012 8:32 am

Quoting B737-112 (Reply 3):
Good to hear that you were on board, cedarjet! What a great opportunity, glad you took part in it.

What a nice thing to say, thank you!

Quoting warden145 (Reply 4):
I'd be willing to give up quite a bit for a 707 flight

For whatever Lufty or Turkish charge for a roundtrip to Tehran + $50 for a Saha Air ticket to Mashhad, you could do it tomorrow on a full passenger aircraft! Even with the American flag next to your username - I've been to Iran with Americans a few times and they've always been embarrassed by the friendly welcome. Iranians love Americans. In fact on my first trip to Iran I was sharing a room with a Brit who worked for American Airlines, and he snored loudly, so to get the room to myself for a couple of nights while he languished in jail, I dared him to wear his American Airlines LHR airside pass through the terminal at THR airport when we were going to fly an IR 727 to Bandar Abbas and back. Instead of being arrested as a spy or general-purpose infidel, he was whisked off to the Iran Air staff restaurant for a lavish meal then got the cockpit jumpseat on the 727. Rats!

So you can fly on a 707 whenever you fell like it - even if you're an American - the reason I want Sean to organise a charter is cos if it's in the USA, it'll be on a VIP machine which is a "pure-B" - new to me (the Saha frames are all Cs plus after c. 50 sectors for me, not so exotic anymore).

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RE: Was Anybody Here On The ATI DC-8-62CF Charter?

Tue May 29, 2012 8:59 am

I was there for both the landing and the take-off at Long Beach, I'm desperately trying to polish up a photo that's good enough for the database. The most memorable bit was the noise on landing- a sort of whistling or moaning that's completely unfamiliar to someone like me who's so seldom seen a jet this old in operation.
 
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Tue May 29, 2012 10:19 am

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 5):
For whatever Lufty or Turkish charge for a roundtrip to Tehran + $50 for a Saha Air ticket to Mashhad, you could do it tomorrow on a full passenger aircraft!

I've actually thought about that, but I'm worried that visiting Iran would put a serious damper on my long-term career goals...if I get to where I want to be, I need to be able to obtain a security clearance...
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RE: Was Anybody Here On The ATI DC-8-62CF Charter?

Tue May 29, 2012 1:35 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 1):
For now, cross your fingers for a 707 or 727-100 in the near future

That's the rumor that I heard, the Boeing 727-100 may be next. I'd love to see that!
 
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Tue May 29, 2012 1:37 pm

I beleive the only flyable B-707 still registered in the US is John Travolta's B-707-138B. Perhaps he can charter it out sometime?
 
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Tue May 29, 2012 3:47 pm

Is N88ZL out of service? That is/was such a beautiful aircraft.
 
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RE: Was Anybody Here On The ATI DC-8-62CF Charter?

Tue May 29, 2012 5:17 pm

Guys,

Here is the takeoff from McClellan. I have waited my whole life to see a video like this.

Organize more DC-8 charters please!!

ATI Douglas DC-8-62CF Takeoff from McClellan, CA, USA - Window View - by flymajj
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RE: Was Anybody Here On The ATI DC-8-62CF Charter?

Tue May 29, 2012 5:25 pm

Quoting B737-112 (Reply 10):
Is N88ZL out of service? That is/was such a beautiful aircraft.

Reported as airworthy, and with a new livery and a new agent who is (fingers crossed) sympathetic to our interests. Usually the obstacle is, the agent is looking for more than a single hour's worth of flying. ATI's usual minimum is six hours' worth, and reduced it to four for Classic Jet Tours. N88ZL's previous agent didn't want to know; let's see how it goes with the new agent (fingers crossed).

Looking gorgeous in her new livery at OPF, complete with "I Dream Of Genie" eye-liner:

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Tue May 29, 2012 6:18 pm

Quoting happy-flier (Reply 11):
Guys,

Here is the takeoff from McClellan. I have waited my whole life to see a video like this.

Organize more DC-8 charters please!!

ATI Douglas DC-8-62CF Takeoff from McClellan, CA, USA - Window View - by flymajj

I'm in the process of uploading some more too, including the rather interesting landing. Check my channel for updates: http://www.youtube.com/user/flymajj

There will be some North Korea IL-62, IL-18, An-24 & Tu-134 action uploaded in the next few days too.
 
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Tue May 29, 2012 7:08 pm

You have an amazing channel! I've subbed you for quite some time. I can't wait to see more of your DC-8 content!
 
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Tue May 29, 2012 11:32 pm

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 13):
I'm in the process of uploading some more too, including the rather interesting landing. Check my channel for updates:

Oh good, I was hoping you got useable footage of the landing in LGB. The only proof I have of it is a photo of the damaged tyre afterwards.

I suppose the moral of the story is that tail heavy DC-8s and tailwinds are not friends.
 
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Wed May 30, 2012 12:13 am

We get the ATI DC-8's often at BWI. They never fail to gather interest. It's great to see how smooth and fluid the landings are. I've have a few photos in the DB of two of their DC-8's. I would love to take a flight with them but imagine the cost has to be wayyy up there.
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RE: Was Anybody Here On The ATI DC-8-62CF Charter?

Wed May 30, 2012 1:49 am

Ya gotta love that jet!!! I can't believe it has been nearly ten years since I got a ride on one of those birds from Singapore down to Diego Garcia, and then did the reverse trip just about a year later. I'm still kicking myself for not remembering to write down the regs for either flight, or the ones that got me to/from the States and Singapore/Tokyo...




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RE: Was Anybody Here On The ATI DC-8-62CF Charter?

Wed May 30, 2012 2:17 am

I saw that aircraft at the annual air show at Ft. Dix several years ago. I am still kicking myself for having waited over an hour to photograph a C-17 and missing a chance to simply savor that 'eight even though she was a static display. At least I had a C-47 Gooney Bird all to myself or 20 or so minutes and got good shots of that. I love old, rare birds!
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RE: Was Anybody Here On The ATI DC-8-62CF Charter?

Wed May 30, 2012 2:30 am

I flew on a ATI DC8 charter once from SDF-SNN-STN.

About 60-70 horses on board - had about 12 seats at the back but I had a better night's sleep on the life raft which as far as I was concerned was a make-shift mattress.

http://www.airtransport.cc/gallery/Dsc00647.jpg

I joke you not: You can see the fuselage bend during turbulence if you are at the back of the plane and look forward. I suppose it doesn't look like a pencil for nothing.

The floors were frozen over the Atlantic that night and you could see some light through the bottom of the cargo door.

Great crew and a great flight - would do it again tomorrow if I could.

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Wed May 30, 2012 3:31 am

You have got to be kidding me??? You are excited over a DC-8 freighter flight? A 727-100 flight? Wow, I guess I am old. This sucks. Flown on both and you are right, they are alot of fun. And yes you can see the fuselage flex.
 
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RE: Was Anybody Here On The ATI DC-8-62CF Charter?

Wed May 30, 2012 3:34 am

Thanks to Sean to and ClassicJetTours.com for this amazing experience. This is the closest I have been to a DC-8 and embraced every minute of it. Here is footage I shot, of the arrival, cabin tour, and engine start/departure. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxnZ1IvKqRU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkIQOzRTSRs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C64Nc1mLejA

Also many thanks to RyanBomar, FlyMajj, and SuperElectrosphere for their awesome footage of N799AL.
 
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Wed May 30, 2012 8:49 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 5):
I've been to Iran with Americans a few times and they've always been embarrassed by the friendly welcome. Iranians love Americans. In fact on my first trip to Iran I was sharing a room with a Brit who worked for American Airlines, and he snored loudly, so to get the room to myself for a couple of nights while he languished in jail, I dared him to wear his American Airlines LHR airside pass through the terminal at THR airport when we were going to fly an IR 727 to Bandar Abbas and back. Instead of being arrested as a spy or general-purpose infidel, he was whisked off to the Iran Air staff restaurant for a lavish meal then got the cockpit jumpseat on the 727. Rats!

I DO NOT SNORE..............

btw, just to clarify, the 727 jumpseat was from THR into Bandar, the next day i left Cedarjet in the hotel, jumped a A300B2 up to THR, got looked after extremely well in Merehbad...including lunch courtesy of Iran Air ground ops., then took a Iran Air Tours TU154 down to Shiraz, with inflight cockpit priviliges.
Spent a day in SYZ, before taking an Aria Air Tu154 to Kish, followed by a Saha 707 back up to THR.
To top it all off, the next day got an IR 74L back to LHR.



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RE: Was Anybody Here On The ATI DC-8-62CF Charter?

Wed May 30, 2012 9:17 pm

I've been checking to see videos, glad to see some up now! Looks like an awesome flight and really heart broken I couldn't make this!
 
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RE: Was Anybody Here On The ATI DC-8-62CF Charter?

Wed May 30, 2012 9:57 pm

I was on the flights as well... One of my best days ever !

Quoting powercube (Reply 15):
The only proof I have of it is a photo of the damaged tyre afterwards.
I suppose the moral of the story is that tail heavy DC-8s and tailwinds are not friends.

I asked the captain if they had a tyre change in LGB but he insisted they just rolled out one tyre to get a wheelchair out of the cargo hold, so that's why they were messing around with a spare wheel . Maybe the filmers can confirm if they actually changed a tyre.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 1):
what happened. Btw a highlight was the group itself, couldn't have asked for a better crowd, who had come from Norway, Australia, UK, Belgium, Germany, United Arab Emirates, Canada and of course the USA.

There were two Dutchies as well !
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RE: Was Anybody Here On The ATI DC-8-62CF Charter?

Thu May 31, 2012 4:46 am

There was no tire change, it just leaned on the main gear. It was taken out to make room so that they could bring a power chair out of the cargo hold.
 
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Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:06 am

Quoting B737-112 (Reply 25):
There was no tire change, it just leaned on the main gear. It was taken out to make room so that they could bring a power chair out of the cargo hold.

That´s right.

Fantastic flights, I wanna do it again before it´s to late.
 
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RE: Was Anybody Here On The ATI DC-8-62CF Charter?

Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:22 pm

Looks like The Cranky flier was on this flight as well:

http://crankyflier.com/2012/05/31/to...of-douglas-aircraft-companys-past/
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RE: Was Anybody Here On The ATI DC-8-62CF Charter?

Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:48 pm

Here is my video (Mc Clellan ground view + flight from Long Beach to Mc Clellan + cockpit view)
Thanks a lot Sean for that amazing experience!
Hope to fly with you very soon.

http://youtu.be/Xj_AosqtPzY
 
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Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:15 pm

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 27):
Looks like The Cranky flier was on this flight as well:

http://crankyflier.com/2012/05/31/to...past/

From the pics that I see, it looks like he was standing next to me when the plane parked at LGB.

Quoting SIBILLE (Reply 28):
Here is my video (Mc Clellan ground view + flight from Long Beach to Mc Clellan + cockpit view)
Thanks a lot Sean for that amazing experience!
Hope to fly with you very soon.

http://youtu.be/Xj_AosqtPzY

I subbed you right away when I saw your vid, any passenger on that flight is a friend of mine and deserves a subbing  

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