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UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:10 pm

With IAH-AKL apparently being shelved...where will those 787 frames go? As I surmised and was confirmed in the thread
UA To Cancel IAH Auckland Service? (by etops1 May 30 2012 in Civil Aviation) DEN-NRT was planned before the WN @ HOU debacle. That means those 787 frames that were earmaked for IAH-AKL are now planned for elsewhere...
The credible information so far.
- IAH is currently the only crew base
- DEN-NRT is to be piloted by IAH based flight crew and DEN based FAs. Which means the aircraft will probably route via IAH at some point as evidence by the schedule of DEN-NRT-DEN. It looks like there will probably be a domestic turn to IAH from DEN.
- The start date of DEN-NRT is in the spring, a point when there will be more than the 5 original 787s on property.
- The 787 will do proving runs ex-IAH. With a EWR-IAH-LAX-IAH-MCO-EWR type of situation being floated around for 6-8 weeks or so.
- 787s should be on property at some point between Aug and Nov.

My guess is IAH-PEK or PVG. There was an a.net thread a while back that mentioned IAH-AMS was due to go 787 at some point.

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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:19 pm

I would think UA would try a couple of Asian destinations from IAH such as PEK, PVG, ICN or even SGN. I think we'll see some South American routes as well including GRU, EZE and maybe SCL. Obviously IAH-LOS will be eventually served on the 787 and I think IAH-AMS and/or CDG will happen as well. It'll be interesting to see what UA announces for the 787 routes in the coming months.
 
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:42 pm

If UA is intent on punishing IAH for this whole tantrum about WN, I would think it would be a while before announcing a new route. But, IAH can definately support one more flight to Asia. That would definately best be served to PVG or PEK. Both are sizeable markets from IAH and would not be hard to fill with good yielding traffic.

I dont see ICN as almost all the O&D from Texas to Korea is in North Texas not South Texas. They do have the OZ to partner with, but it would not be the best investment to try to capture lower yielding connecting traffic.

Quoting 96texan (Reply 1):
I would think UA would try a couple of Asian destinations from IAH such as PEK, PVG, ICN or even SGN.

SGN doesnt even work from LAX or SFO which have larger O&D's. Starting IAH-SGN would be akin to going to a 5 star steak house and salivating over the contents of the dumpster behind the steak house.
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:46 pm

EWR-ICN
EWR-Bangalore
EWR-Chennai
EWR-Hyderabad
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:01 pm

Most mentioned here are new routes, except the AMS point above.

I would not count out a redeployment onto an existing route that could make it a better product to win. Such as something like GRU or GIG.
That would free up planes to do other routes mentioned above.

I would not discount a ORD or SFO route like (maybe I can say I have not even researched to say these are within the capabilities of the 787)
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:03 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 3):

EWR-ICN

Strongly favored.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 3):
EWR-Bangalore
EWR-Chennai
EWR-Hyderabad

I'm leaning towards SFO-DEL / SFO-BOM / SFO-MEL / EWR-GIG / IAH-SCL before these 3 to occur.
 
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:05 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 3):

EWR-ICN
EWR-Bangalore
EWR-Chennai
EWR-Hyderabad

A little iffy given the cost of fuel right now. I think UA will play it safe for now:

IAH-LAX
EWR-MCO
EWR-IAH
ORD-DEN
IAH-DEN
DEN-SFO
LAX/SFO-SYD
IAH-NRT
EWR-LHR
EWR-GRU
ORD-LHR
ORD-FRA
IAD-DXB

Eventually:
SFO-CAN
SFO-AKL
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:07 pm

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 5):
I'm leaning towards SFO-DEL / SFO-BOM / SFO-MEL / EWR-GIG / IAH-SCL before these 3 to occur.

Before the merger CO's Vice President stated they would launch Bangalore, Chennai and Hyderabad from EWR with the 787s. I know things have changed, but the question is what would be a better route EWR-Bangalore or SFO-DEL/BOM. New Jersey's Indian population is huge, which is why there are three airlines with four daily flights to India from EWR.
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:09 pm

I know the Eurozone is still generally weak, but I will speculate and say ORD or EWR-VIE
 
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:11 pm

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 6):
IAH-NRT

As a 2nd frequency or replacing the 777? I think that IAH-NRT would go 3-class 777 or 744 before downgrading, I think it has healthy loads.

Quoting ORDBOSEWR (Reply 4):
I would not count out a redeployment onto an existing route that could make it a better product to win. Such as something like GRU or GIG.
That would free up planes to do other routes mentioned above.

Well, sUA is opening a 756 base at IAH for the September onward schedule - I'd think that is signalling increased 763 flying to take over for the 762s and S.America flying. I could see EZE/CDG/GRU going 763 before placing the 787 there.
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:20 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 7):
I know things have changed, but the question is what would be a better route EWR-Bangalore or SFO-DEL/BOM. New Jersey's Indian population is huge, which is why there are three airlines with four daily flights to India from EWR.

CO also bragged about IAH-AKL and look what happened with that...

The India routes seem to be better suited with more Y than F seats. Indian population in NJ is high no doubt, so it's mainly people going home to visit family. 787 might not be the best for these missions and I don't think the new UA is going to take the risk to dive into any of the cities mentioned.
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:21 pm

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 10):
CO also bragged about IAH-AKL and look what happened with that...

The India routes seem to be better suited with more Y than F seats. Indian population in NJ is high no doubt, so it's mainly people going home to visit family. 787 might not be the best for these missions and I don't think the new UA is going to take the risk to dive into any of the cities mentioned.

I agree, I think that they will start India with the 787, just not so sure its very high on the list right now. In the new UA system there are a lot of more profitable city pairs.
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:25 pm

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 11):

True that. Also in response to the IAH-NRT comment, I think it's possible to have two frequencies on the route.

Maybe a few Euro routes that are currently 2x 757 out of EWR as well: EWR-MAD/AMS/CDG or something like that.
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:40 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 7):
I know things have changed, but the question is what would be a better route EWR-Bangalore or SFO-DEL/BOM

IMHO, if UA decides to add another India route it should be EWR-BLR. There is way too much IT traffic from USA to BLR that this route can take advantage of.

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 10):
Indian population in NJ is high no doubt, so it's mainly people going home to visit family

Passengers going to BLR for an overwhelming part have some IT connection - Short term projects, on-site client visits, quick business/meetings, off shore location visits etc. Do not underestmate the Technology traffic as virtually every major IT company and even non IT companies in USA has some kind of presence in BLR. It is honestly a no brainer for UA to serve EWR-BLR or SFO-BLR
 
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:20 pm

Quoting drerx7 (Thread starter):
My guess is IAH-PEK or PVG. There was an a.net thread a while back that mentioned IAH-AMS was due to go 787 at some point.
Quoting STT757 (Reply 3):
EWR-ICN
Quoting tommy767 (Reply 6):
IAH-NRT
Quoting tommy767 (Reply 6):
ORD-DEN
IAH-DEN
DEN-SFO

I see all of these happening.
You could also possibly add SFO-some mainland China airport that doesn't see much service. (I'm thinking Wuhan at this point)
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:31 pm

EWR-India makes a lot of sense, IMO. I would love a *A option that lets me avoid changing planes in Europe at some god-awful middle of the night (for me) time.
 
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:36 pm

I think UA will first bring the 787's onto existing routes where demand isn't quite high enough for a 777 and/or it will ensure a nice cost savings.

They will also (I think) use these bird on some existing TATL routes, especially where they can leverage the larger cargo bays than the 757.

After that, their expansion plans should turn mostly to Asia since that is where the most near term economic growth will occur. I think this will eventually entail a crew base either at EWR or SFO for the 787's. I expect the 789's to be based at SFO given they're slated to replace the 744's.
 
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:38 pm

Quoting SonomaFlyer (Reply 16):
I expect the 789's to be based at SFO given they're slated to replace the 744's.

I think your confusing them with the A350s, PMCO ordered the 789s and they were not replacing anything. PMUA stated their A350s are to replace their 744s.
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Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:43 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 17):
I think your confusing them with the A350s, PMCO ordered the 789s and they were not replacing anything. PMUA stated their A350s are to replace their 744s.

Ooops, you are spot on, that was a miscue on my part. I do think we'll see quite a bit of optioning by UA for the 789's once they get their first 20 or so 788's. Given there are 50 frames on firm order, that should be a given considering the economics of the 789.
 
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:57 pm

Quoting 96texan (Reply 1):
I would think UA would try a couple of Asian destinations from IAH such as PEK, PVG, ICN or even SGN.

PEK, PVG and ICN can not maintain year round 747 daily service to SFO. If they don't have the capacity to keep SFO full, I can't imagine further compromising the SFO flights with an additional IAH flight makes sense. IAH has virtually no feed to Asia that is not covered elsewhere in the network other than the rural south which doesn't really count.

ICN could be an oddball since it has maintained SFO-ICN and NRT-ICN.

Quoting drerx7 (Thread starter):
- DEN-NRT is to be piloted by IAH based flight crew and DEN based FAs. Which means the aircraft will probably route via IAH at some point as evidence by the schedule of DEN-NRT-DEN. It looks like there will probably be a domestic turn to IAH from DEN.

UA in the past has dead headed crews. I don't think it is a given that IAH-DEN would get a 787. However the 787 would have to touch DEN or NRT in the network for fleet rotations.

LAX-SYD sometimes involves deadheading pilots from SFO. IAD routes on the 747 (such as when IAD-PEK was a 747) involved deadheading pilots from ORD.
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:06 pm

Quoting 96texan (Reply 1):
I would think UA would try a couple of Asian destinations from IAH such as PEK, PVG, ICN or even SGN. I think we'll see some South American routes as well including GRU, EZE and maybe SCL. Obviously IAH-LOS will be eventually served on the 787 and I think IAH-AMS and/or CDG will happen as well. It'll be interesting to see what UA announces for the 787 routes in the coming months.

Asian destinations to IAH make no sense at all given the rest of their network. There are a lot of better places to go first.

Also, there's insufficient range for SGN.

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 12):
True that. Also in response to the IAH-NRT comment, I think it's possible to have two frequencies on the route.

For someone that seems to prefer gauge, that's a silly statement.

There are many other, better destinations to serve first.

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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:00 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 19):
UA in the past has dead headed crews. I don't think it is a given that IAH-DEN would get a 787. However the 787 would have to touch DEN or NRT in the network for fleet rotations.

Could we see something like IAH-NRT-DEN-NRT-IAH?
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:01 pm

I've heard rumours that a second 787 route may be heading DEN's way. UA has had a huge problem throwing a competitive offering to BA and LH in DEN. DEN-LHR may come back, but using the smaller plane.
 
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:16 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 14):
You could also possibly add SFO-some mainland China airport that doesn't see much service. (I'm thinking Wuhan at this point)

I think Guangzhou would be more likely.

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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:18 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 19):
I don't think it is a given that IAH-DEN would get a 787. However the 787 would have to touch DEN or NRT in the network for fleet rotations.

The only other way with such limited birds and IAH being the only 787 base in the cards right now is for them to open DEN-LHR with the 787 - which is a possibility.

Quoting warden145 (Reply 21):
Could we see something like IAH-NRT-DEN-NRT-IAH?

That's what I think will happen, at least until more planes come online.
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:20 pm

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 24):
The only other way with such limited birds and IAH being the only 787 base in the cards right now is for them to open DEN-LHR with the 787 - which is a possibility.

They could easily open a 787 base elsewhere before then.

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Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:35 pm

UA's strategy was presented as using the 787 to downguage some international routes in the off season. Northern hemisphere routes would be larger aircraft in the summer and smaller aircraft in the winter. For some routes to the southern hemisphere and India, it would be the opposite, upguaged in the winter and downguaged in the summer. Some routes could possibly be added but not very many.

Quoting drerx7 (Thread starter):
My guess is IAH-PEK or PVG

That seems unlikely. China is suffering from excess capacity and UA would have to apply for an additional route authority. If anything, UA might use the 787 to downguage IAD-PEK or LAX-PVG.
 
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:07 pm

Quoting gigneil (Reply 25):
They could easily open a 787 base elsewhere before then.

True, I suppose...what all goes into setting up a base for a new type? Would it be worth the logistics? Also is DEN high yielding enough to make it the first 787 base?

Quoting gigneil (Reply 20):
Asian destinations to IAH make no sense at all given the rest of their network. There are a lot of better places to go first.

Not that I disagree, how would the potential yields be though?
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:18 pm

Quoting AADC10 (Reply 26):
UA's strategy was presented as using the 787 to downguage some international routes in the off season. Northern hemisphere routes would be larger aircraft in the summer and smaller aircraft in the winter. For some routes to the southern hemisphere and India, it would be the opposite, upguaged in the winter and downguaged in the summer. Some routes could possibly be added but not very many.

Quoting drerx7 (Thread starter):
My guess is IAH-PEK or PVG

That seems unlikely. China is suffering from excess capacity and UA would have to apply for an additional route authority. If anything, UA might use the 787 to downguage IAD-PEK or LAX-PVG.

This makes the most sense given the economy overall. The 787's initially could up gauge some of the 757 routes in the summer and go elsewhere in the winter to up gauge those services.

The current economic climate does not support adding very many routes. I wouldn't expect to see any kind of big expansion push for at least the next three or four years, perhaps longer.
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:21 pm

All other factors not withstanding, I would put it on the the longest thinnest route for which the 777 is too large.
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Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:25 pm

Newark & Chicago to LHR to replace the 757 and 763ER's.
 
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:54 pm

Those routes are well served by the 763s right now. The 787 will be for longer routes at first.

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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:00 pm

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 5):
I'm leaning towards SFO-DEL / SFO-BOM

Last time I was in the Sunnyvale-Santa Clara-San Jose region, the whole area seemed to have shifted South Indian. I can see a reason for flights from SFO to India.
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:01 pm

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 27):
Also is DEN high yielding enough to make it the first 787 base?

I would imagine the yields will be determined as to where the 787 flights to/from DEN are. Tokyo by itself certainly will have its own premium traffic to fill almost any plane, doesn't matter to where. I would also suppose that if DEN gets destinations such as LHR and maybe MUC with 787, I think that the yields will be there.
 
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:04 pm

I think a 2-class 787 to LHR is definitely a winner.

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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:10 pm

I really think outside of DEN-NRT and IAH-LOS we will probably see them use the 787 to rightsize existing markets. I do not think they will add a ton of new routes/desintations like ANA/JAL have.
 
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:16 pm

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 32):

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 5):
I'm leaning towards SFO-DEL / SFO-BOM

Last time I was in the Sunnyvale-Santa Clara-San Jose region, the whole area seemed to have shifted South Indian. I can see a reason for flights from SFO to India.

SFO to DEL is 7706mi
SFO to BOM is 8406mi

this from gcmap.com

Delhi is reachable but I think BOM would incur weight penalties. IIRC the tech sector for India is further to the south which would increase the distance still further.
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:23 pm

Quoting SonomaFlyer (Reply 36):
Delhi is reachable but I think BOM would incur weight penalties. IIRC the tech sector for India is further to the south which would increase the distance still further.



Bangalore and Hyderabad are the tech centers. I know that for the longest time Kingfisher wanted to fly SFO-BLR on a 345. Of course, it never happened.

I would think a 787 route to SFO would be in the cards at some point, but over all I find the Indian community's first choice is never AI. I deal with it every day here in Dallas as Dallas is also a large tech and telecom hub. They all seem to wait EK or lacking that a connect in IAH with QR. AI is always the very last choice. I dont know if its different in SFO.
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:56 pm

Quoting warden145 (Reply 21):
Could we see something like IAH-NRT-DEN-NRT-IAH?

I could see that routing happen. It sounds quite feasable.

Quoting gigneil (Reply 23):
I think Guangzhou would be more likely.

That's what I'm thinking too.



Here's a thought: What about any routes intra-Asia from NRT? Immediately what comes to mind is IAH-NRT-SGN or NRT-BKK or something along those lines. Maybe NRT-Brisbane, Perth, or Melbourne. Just another thought.
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Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:04 pm

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 37):
I would think a 787 route to SFO would be in the cards at some point, but over all I find the Indian community's first choice is never AI. I deal with it every day here in Dallas as Dallas is also a large tech and telecom hub. They all seem to wait EK or lacking that a connect in IAH with QR. AI is always the very last choice. I dont know if its different in SFO.

From speaking to folks who travel to India from this area (SFO) on business, the EK service is VERY popular. BA of course is still popular and from here, ANA, JL and KE are also options. AI does not fly here; none of their current a/c have the range and as you said, AI isn't so popular.
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:15 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 19):
PEK, PVG and ICN can not maintain year round 747 daily service to SFO. If they don't have the capacity to keep SFO full,

SFO-ICN has always been a daily 747 since May of 2010 without any variation in frequency or aircraft type since then.
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:19 pm

Quoting SonomaFlyer (Reply 39):
From speaking to folks who travel to India from this area (SFO) on business, the EK service is VERY popular. BA of course is still popular and from here, ANA, JL and KE are also options. AI does not fly here; none of their current a/c have the range and as you said, AI isn't so popular.

   Agreed, and I also see people going to India on SQ, LH, and (to a lesser degree) CX out of SFO. This is mostly business travel getting to the information technology centers...I'm still surprised that the 9W SFO-PVG-BOM flight didn't do better...
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:45 pm

Quoting point2point (Reply 33):
I would imagine the yields will be determined as to where the 787 flights to/from DEN are. Tokyo by itself certainly will have its own premium traffic to fill almost any plane, doesn't matter to where. I would also suppose that if DEN gets destinations such as LHR and maybe MUC with 787, I think that the yields will be there.

I doubt MUC, just because LH already has a lot of that traffic, and the alliance factor kicks in. I think that UA would love to kick BA off of the always full and lucrative DEN-LHR route however.
 
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Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:37 am

Denver- Narita ( TOKYO) , Denver-London, Denver Frankfurt , Denver- Paris CDG.. Denver Bejing! That's where I'd fly the 787's and if they pan out there?? then Denver- Honolulu-Aukland (Same plane Service) That covers 10-12 airplanes.
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Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:42 am

The route manager I talked too at EWR said we will get the 747 & 787 next year.   
 
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:49 am

Cant see them going for SFO-AKL all ready well served by NZ with 772 and 744 and will get the 787 later on , after the Huston CAX NZ aren't going play nice with UA. lol
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:28 am

Quoting fxramper (Reply 44):

whats a route manager?
 
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:34 am

Well Houston - Lagos is supposed to go 787
IAH-AMS was mentioned
EWR-LHR maybe on one of the 757 routes? Weren't the 757s "placedholders" in a way for slots?
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:45 am

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 46):
whats a route manager?

No clue.

He was the lazy employee on my flight to GVA the other day that was just talking to myself and the other global service member that was pre boarded. No need for you to fly into the forum like a grumpy displaced ex-CO employee and question what I posted. I'm the first person to laugh at the threads that discuss how "I talked to the Captain that said we are ordering A380s to fly AUS-DFW". This guy said they are running a UA 777 on EWR-IST and my global travel has told me I'm on a 3 class 763 in July for work.
 
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RE: UA 787 Route Speculation...

Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:00 am

I think the following are all possibilities:

IAH-LOS: announced
DEN-NRT: announced

Existing Routes

LAX-PVG
ORD-GRU
ORD-LHR
EWR-LHR
IAD-DXB

New Routes

DEN-LHR: product can compete w/ BA + right-sized plane
EWR-ICN: completes the major Asia-Pac cities from EWR + growing Korean population in NJ
EWR-DXB: jump in before EK does, corresponding downgauge from 777 to 787 on IAD-DXB
IAH-PEK: lots of onward feed from alliance partner CA
IAD-DEL: complements EWR-DEL + gov't traffic between major players in the world economy
SFO-DEL: complements EWR-DEL + lots of tech traffic
SFO-CAN: market that UA has considered in the past, this might be the right-sized plane
SFO-MEL: complements SFO-SYD + opens up second gateway on US-MEL, however, might be starting to push the range (7855 miles)

Various domestic repositioning flights like DEN-IAH, SFO-EWR, etc.

Regarding EWR-BLR: lots of connection possibilities on the US side + plenty of premium traffic on US-BLR, however, I think this would be out of range for the 788 (8311 miles)
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