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Benelux Aviation #4

Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:20 am

Starting this new thread (mainly because #3 has been archived) with a question: Is Jet about to cancel its BRU-JFK service?

For a couple of days, all flights after September 10 were unavailable. Most are now available again, but only at full fares. Airlineroute points out that it is the exact pattern that Jet followed leading up to the cancellation of its BOM-BAH service, with the end of the route announced a week after it switched to selling only full-fare tickets.

I don't think this is the prelude to moving its scissor hub because three months is pretty short to move its infrastructure elsewhere, but it may well be related to Brussels' opening of BRU-JFK. Perhaps the two carriers have concluded an agreement over the route.
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:38 am

Transavia is starting a 1 weekly Amsterdam - Erbil flights in W12.

SN will operate a leased Dash 8 Q400 on BRU-NWI and BRU-BRS (previously operated by BMI Regional).

Luxair will operated a weekly Luxembourg - Paris Vatry flight in June and July (reason for this flight is that they operate 1 weekly flight ex Paris Vatry to PMI and HER

Delta update W12 AMS
AMS-ATL increase from daily to 11 weekly
AMS-MSP twice daily 333 instead of 1 daily 333 and 1 daily 767
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:22 am

Quoting LJ (Reply 1):
Luxair will operated a weekly Luxembourg - Paris Vatry flight in June and July (reason for this flight is that they operate 1 weekly flight ex Paris Vatry to PMI and HER

Shouldnt they have 2 weekly flights then to Vatry if they have two flights a week from there? One each to PMI and HER.
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:34 am

Quoting kl911 (Reply 2):

Shouldnt they have 2 weekly flights then to Vatry if they have two flights a week from there? One each to PMI and HER.

Most likely they will operate both on the same day (Saturday?) in a LUX-XCR-PMI-XCR-HER-XCR-LUX rotation (or PMI and HER reversed).
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:17 am

Quoting LJ (Reply 1):
SN will operate a leased Dash 8 Q400 on BRU-NWI

It's BRU-NCL  
Quoting kl911 (Reply 2):
Shouldnt they have 2 weekly flights then to Vatry if they have two flights a week from there? One each to PMI and HER.

No. PMI operates one month, HER the other
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:50 am

Quoting Humberside (Reply 4):
It's BRU-NCL

Indeed my mistake (always mix these two up)

Quoting Humberside (Reply 4):
No. PMI operates one month, HER the other

Correct, June 6th till June 27th PMI and June 21th till July 26th HER

Quoting LJ (Reply 1):
Transavia is starting a 1 weekly Amsterdam - Erbil flights in W12.

Should be June 2012 til October 2012

[Edited 2012-06-09 03:54:39]
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:02 am

Still on topic, its Benelux after all, but I have noticed the late Transavia flight AMS-BUD being operated often with a KLM 737. I know the reason for this, but found it interesting that its often this route. Is it because its flight late in the day and HV might have encountered delays in the network somewhere?

And is the KLM flight oprated by KLM cockpitcrew and HV cabincrew?
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:44 pm

Quoting kl911 (Reply 6):
Still on topic, its Benelux after all, but I have noticed the late Transavia flight AMS-BUD being operated often with a KLM 737. I know the reason for this, but found it interesting that its often this route. Is it because its flight late in the day and HV might have encountered delays in the network somewhere?

No HV leases 2 B737-800s from KL for a few months.. They can appear on the entire HV network

BTW HV will also lease aircraft from FlyDubai, GOL and Kuluta this Summer

[Edited 2012-06-09 10:49:26]
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:20 pm

EK Cargo are flying to Liege four weekly 777F linking to JFK.
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:41 am

Jet has officially cancelled BRU-JFK effective September 10. MAA-BRU will continue to operate as scheduled. Passengers bound for JFK will be re-booked on to EWR or on SN's flight.
http://www.jetairways.com/EN/GL/PressReleases/BrusselsNewYorkPR.aspx

According to sources, Jet plans to eventually code-share with SN to JFK, but there's no firm date yet.

Quoting 777way (Reply 8):
EK Cargo are flying to Liege four weekly 777F linking to JFK.

I see 5x week. Was one frequency cancelled?
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:32 pm

Its not EK just them code sharing on TNT flights.
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:00 am

AMS

IB Express will take over the remaining 1 daily AMS-MAD flight from mainline IB (as of September 17th). After this date all IB flights will be IB Express.

RTM

BA has requested slots for a 3 daily RTM-LHR-RTM flight with A319 for W12 (this would mean a very large capacity increase for LON-RTM).
FR has also requested slots for W12 (currently for a 5 daily pair). However it remains unclear if these FR flights will materialise as in the past FR and RTM never could agree on the fees.
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:10 am

Quoting LJ (Reply 11):
FR has also requested slots for W12 (currently for a 5 daily pair).

Any idea what route?
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:32 am

Quoting LJ (Reply 11):
FR has also requested slots for W12 (currently for a 5 daily pair).

Any idea what route?
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:22 pm

Quoting kl911 (Reply 13):
Any idea what route?

No, apparently they filed Dublin, but 5 daily RTM-DUB during W12 would be very strange and unrealistic....

Anyway, seeing is believing. I've my doubts about RTM as they don't have much capacity left (for S12 they've only 2,268 slots left, which means just over 5 dailies). Moreover next to the slot issue, there is the limit on the max number of pax per hour (currently at 650 pax at the same time for RTM) due to terminal space limitations (or better allowed space limitations).
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:49 pm

The BA flights LHR-RTM, are looking to be the following flight numbers.....unless things change!

410/411, 412/413 & 414/415
Airlines flown; AA, AC, AY, BA, BD, BY, CX, DA, DP, IB, KL, LH, LA, LP, MA & MH
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:55 pm

Quoting 1peter (Reply 15):
The BA flights LHR-RTM, are looking to be the following flight numbers.....unless things change!

Moreover, the schedule currently in the slot allocation list is worthless for the average business traveller and looks like these flights are slot keeping flights (not that many would have thought this in the first place):

BA 410 arr RTM 10:20
BA 411 dep RTM 13:00
BA 412 arr RTM 14:50
BA 413 dep RTM 17:20
BA 414 arr RTM 18:50
BA 415 dep RTM 20:50

How many connections are possible at LHR with this schedule? Looks like you're missing the entire morning bank.
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:37 am

Quoting LJ (Reply 16):
BA 410 arr RTM 10:20
BA 411 dep RTM 13:00
BA 412 arr RTM 14:50
BA 413 dep RTM 17:20
BA 414 arr RTM 18:50
BA 415 dep RTM 20:50

Interesting timings, good if you are traveling ex LHR, but not the best for the Dutch business man on a day trip! Lets just hope they perform well and are maintained for S13.
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:48 pm

Maastricht seems to be the 51th base for FR (see separate thread Ryanair Announces 51st Base- Maastricht (by santos Jul 3 2012 in Civil Aviation) ).

LUX
BA will increase LUX with an extra weekday flight. As of November 26th BA will introduce an additional LUX service with A319 (BA420/1) with the following schedule;
LHR dep 08:55 LUX arr 11:15
LUX dep 12:15 LHR arr 12:40
Moreover timings of BA416/7 will be changed

CRL
FR will cancel Oudja - CRL as of October 1st and Fez - CRL will be reduced from 5 weekly to 2 weekly from the same date

BRU
BA will introduce an 8th daily flight as of January 27th 2013
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:57 pm

Quoting LJ (Reply 18):
LUX
BA will increase LUX with an extra weekday flight. As of November 26th BA will introduce an additional LUX service with A319 (BA420/1) with the following schedule;
LHR dep 08:55 LUX arr 11:15
LUX dep 12:15 LHR arr 12:40
Moreover timings of BA416/7 will be changed

Interesting to see that there is more and more capacity on the LUX-LON route, with CityJet now using ARJ85s instead of the F50 and BA introducing the new service.
From November there will be 10 flights a day then to London...quite impressive!!
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:51 pm

Some SQC news regarding BeNeLux. AMS will see 9 weekly flights whilst BRU 7 weekly flights between July and August . It seems that SQC is reducing AMS in favour for BRU as the number of flights to BRU have increased whilst those to AMS have decreased (AMS used to be at least twice daily).

BTW for those having access to the SACN slot list should look at the drop down box where SACN mentions that SQ stands for Brussels Airlines...is this inside information of something we don't know anything about?  Wink

[Edited 2012-07-16 07:54:39]
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:19 pm

Flight UA973 returned back to BRU this morning after it suffered an impact with an unidentified object.

After the plane left with 70 minutes delay for it's flight to ORD it suffered a strike with a foreign object, shortly after take off the engine at portside made a rattling sound which stopped 10 minutes later. The crew made an announcement that there was an issue with the engine and that they idled the engine and would return back to BRU. Since the plane was over it's maximum landing weight it dumped fuel over the North Sea in the Knokke neighbourhood, after the fuel dump the plane landed safely at BRU. An engine investigation revealed that the fan blades showed impact by a hard object. A bird or rabbit is suspected to have caused the damage.

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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:28 pm

Quoting bralo20 (Reply 21):
A bird or rabbit is suspected to have caused the damage.
Quoting bralo20 (Reply 21):
rabbit

Reminds me of an issue some years ago. I think it was a Jetair 767 which had a strike with a rabbit in the Dominican Republic (or was it Cuba?). When the company explained a rabbit ended up in one engine, a passenger (who found himself rather smart and amusing) explained to the media that this was totally nonsense, because
...
he never saw a rabbit jump this high to end up in an aircraft engine !

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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:28 pm

Brussels Airlines announced the figures for the first month of their new JFK operation. SN transported 13.113 passengers during the first month of operation (the route started on 01JUN2012) which gives an average of 78,3% on this new route.

Spread over it's entire network SN transported during the month June 540.409 passengers which is an increase of 2,7% compared to the same month last year. The entire loadfactor increased with 0,5% to 69,8%.

The best news came from their African operations which saw an increase of 16%, which can be explained due the added capacity and the new route from JFK. These figures however shows that the number of passengers in Europe didn't increase (even decreased) due cutting of routes and frequencies in their money-losing European network.

SN transported 2.762.922 passengers during the first 6 months of this year which is an increase of 3,1% compared to 2011. An average loadfactor wasn't announced however SN did tell that the average load did increase with 3,3% compared to 2011.


Source: Flightlevel.be / Brussels Airlines
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:36 pm

Apparently QR as asked for 3 additional slotpairs to increase their flights to BRU from DOH. QR wants to add 3 additional morning flights starting with this winterseason. If granted, QR will have 8 weekly flights between Brussels and Doha.

Also TG asked for 1 additional slotpair to add an additional flight which would take place on Sunday. Currently TG flies 3x a week between BKK and BRU. Recently it was announced that SN would codeshare with TG on the flights.

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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:37 pm

Quoting 330lover (Reply 22):
he never saw a rabbit jump this high to end up in an aircraft engine !

You have to admit, it's rather funny 
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:35 pm

RTM

BA finally confirmed their 3 daily LHR-RTM flight. They'll be operated by the 319/320. There is a seperate thread for discussing this service. BA To Start Rotterdam- The Hague (by paneuropean Jul 18 2012 in Civil Aviation)

LUX

Luxair will terminate LUX-TRN as of August 1st. However, LUX-MXP will see and extra flight on Weekdays (operated by ER4).

New flight
LG6995 dep LUX 13:55 arr MXP 15:05
LG6996 dep MXP 15:35 arr LUX 16:45

This means that passengers now have a mid day opportunity between Milan and Luxemburg
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:02 am

It is confirmed that Ryanair will keep its Groningen - Milan Bergamo flight for this winter.

The flights to PMI and MRS will be ceased for the winter, as is the GRQ - BCN Vueling flight.
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:00 pm

Brussels Airlines is flying a couple of thousand party animals from all across Europe to Brussels for the big Tomorrowland event. Brussels Airlines is a Tomorrowland partner and agreed to offer special charter flights between several European towns and Brussels. SN will operate 25 charterflights for the Tomorrowland event in Belgium. The planes received special decals to promote this event and also the interior is decorated. Several (famous?) DJ's will fly on these flights to Brussels as well.

Some Instagram pictures:

 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:06 pm

Quoting Bralo20 (Reply 28):
Brussels Airlines is flying a couple of thousand party animals from all across Europe to Brussels for the big Tomorrowland event.

Nice, what is this event? A festival?

Quoting Bralo20 (Reply 28):
SN will operate 25 charterflights for the Tomorrowland event in Belgium

Where do they get those planes from in the middle of high season?
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:45 pm

Tomorrowland is indeed an open air festival in Belgium in quite a nice park near Antwerp. It only started back in 2005 when they had less then 10.000 visitors on the festival, however Tomorrowland became bigger and bigger during the next couple of years and it was actually made famous by the stages in the park, when you walk through Tomorrowland you'll think you walk through a fairytale, the scene is just awesome. Combine this with popular dancemusic and you'll get one heck of a party. The biggest DJ's from all over the world have Tomorrowland as their highlight in their season, some of them even "beg" to let them perform, most of them because of the awesome atmosphere during the festival. To give you an example how popular this event is: 180.000 tickets where made available (which is the maximum capacity spread over 3 days, so 60.000 per day), 80.000 of them exclusively for Belgians, when the presale for Belgium opened up all available tickets where sold that same day (including a waiting list of 250.000 people), when the other 100.000 tickets went for sale, every single ticket was sold in less then 2 hours with an even bigger waiting list. Over 400 DJ's will perform during these 3 days, including big names like David Guetta, Swedish House Maffia and many many more.

The organisation of this event teamed up with Brussels Airlines to offer a small amount of charterflights including tickets for the festival and campingground. The response was even bigger then expected, from the USA alone over 3.000 people registered for the package. In the end, probably looking at capacity SN decided that it could offer 25 flights for Tomorrowland visitors leaving from 17 different cities throughout Europe and New York (though for New York they blocked only part of the regular flight due lack of planes, and I guess they did it for other destinations too).

If you like to read more about Tomorrowland you can go to it's website tomorrowland.com or search on Wikipedia.

AFAIK this is the first time (certainly in Belgium, maybe even global) that a festival charters jets to fly in visitors from around the globe. On the flight of Barcelona 3 DJ's were present to have a DJ set during the flight to Brussels. To make it complete, the organisation had made the Tommorowland logo in a grain field visible during the approach. Since several media were covering this (including MTV), I think a video will be put online about the flights.

BTW: The festival will be live broadcast worldwide through Youtube.

To give you an idea, a movie about last year's edition viewed more then 44 million times on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7CdTAiaLes


Since the success of this I can see it repeated next year, maybe even with a bigger amount of "partyflights".

[Edited 2012-07-26 09:47:41]
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:10 pm

Brussels Airlines press release about the Tomorrowland flights (sorry no link yet, it's not (yet) published on their site, only send by mail):

Quote:


Brussels Airlines welcomes 25 flights with visitors for Tomorrowland

25 Brussels Airlines flights are departing from 17 different cities today to bring more than 2,000 passengers from Europe and far beyond to Brussels Airport. All these passengers have the same destination: Tomorrowland. On Monday 30 July they will all return home after a weekend of partying at the festival in Boom.. Those flying in from Barcelona were surprised during the flight by a unique live DJ set by Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike and Yves V.

From the Big Apple to Moscow

Tomorrowland noticed a growing demand from people abroad wanting to visit the festival and decided to enter into a partnership with Brussels Airlines. Attractive travel packages were put on offer, including flight, festival ticket and hotel accommodation or tickets for the DreamVille camping. The concept proved to be a success: the packages were sold out in a matter of hours.

Today more than 2,000 passengers landed at Brussels Airport, coming from NYC, Rome, Madrid, London, Stockholm, Prague, Geneva, Barcelona, Milan, Berlin, Manchester, Copenhagen, Porto, Budapest, Bilbao, Lisbon and Moscow on Brussels Airlines flights. The first flight, originating from NYC, landed at 6h25 and the last one, coming in from London, lands tonight at 20h05.

Upon departure, the passengers checked in at a Tomorrowland desk and were accompanied by special hostesses. When they arrived at Brussels Airport, friendly Tomorrowland hostesses were again on hand to welcome them. From there, they left for the hotel or DreamVille by Tomorrowland transport. After the festival, on Monday 30 July, the passengers will be brought back to Brussels Airport.

Debby Wilmsen, Tomorrowland’s press officer: “For us as well as for Brussels Airlines, service and safety come first. We therefore considered it a good match, and the icing on the cake is that we are able to decorate a plane in Tomorrowland livery, both inside and out! As soon as you board the aircraft, you’re in the right atmosphere: through this partnership, we are able to start the party while the passengers are still in the air.”

Christian Dumortier, marketing manager at Benelux Brussels Airlines: “Thanks to this partnership with Tomorrowland, we are able to associate our airline with a fantastic Belgian music festival which is incredibly popular in virtually all our European destinations. In no time at all more than 2,000 flight tickets were booked. Like Brussels Airlines, Tomorrowland has opted for quality and creativity. Out of these ingredients a great partnership has emerged, full of creative surprises, like the unique DJ flight and the giant Ferris wheel.”

DJs on board

DJ duo Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike and Antwerp DJ Yves V surprised the passengers who departed from Barcelona with a DJ set on board. The DJs played a set at an altitude of more than 10,000 metres to warm up the enthusiastic crowd of 140 passengers and to set the tone for three fantastic days at Tomorrowland. Upon arrival at DreamVille they were able to continue the dancing to the beats of The Gathering, the traditional DreamVille party that takes place the day before the festival opens.

The treat is on Brussels Airlines

At Tomorrowland, Brussels Airlines will bring the visitors' heads in the clouds for a brief moment: the main attraction at Tomorrowland 2012 is Europe’s tallest ferris wheel : The Brussels Airlines Cloud Rider. Nearly 60 metres high, the wheel was brought in from Düsseldorf and 20 mechanics were responsible for constructing it. The 40 pods can each hold 8 passengers at a time, meaning 2,200 passengers per go. Thanks to Brussels Airlines, all Tomorrowland visitors will be treated to a free ride on the wheel. The personal code on their special Tomorrowland boarding pass also gives them a chance of winning some really great flight prizes, including one year of free flights with Brussels Airlines.

On Friday 27 July at 12.00, the festival starts. The organisers are expecting 180,000 visitors and 35,000 DreamVille guests. The festival ends at midnight on Sunday 29 July. This year, those who stay at home can also enjoy the festival thanks to Tomorrowland TV: seven hours of live television on the Tomorrowland YouTube channel with live sets, interviews, extras and the all-important look behind the scenes.

Brussels Airlines, 26 July 2012


[Edited 2012-07-26 10:11:25]

Something I forgot to mention but it's in the release: SN also sponsored the largest ferris wheel in Europe to be put up at Tomorrowland, it's 60m high and a ride on it is for free.


[Edited 2012-07-26 10:14:19]
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:15 pm

Some routenews

AMS
- Flybe will add new routes to AMS in W12. BHX-AMS will see 16 weekly flights. EMA-AMS will see a daily flight. All flights will be operated with DH4.
- KL will resume HRE as of W12. The flight will be combined with LUN and routing will be AMS-HRE-LUN-AMS.
- FV will cancel their 5 weekly LED-AMS flight as of W12.
- CX will deploy the A340-300 on all daily flights again.

EIN
- FR will cancel ACE-EIN and MAD-EIN as of November 2012

BRU
- SN will take over EDI-BRU is W12. SN will start with 6 weekly A319, but as of March 2013 it will be 12 weekly AR8.
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:05 pm

Quoting LJ (Reply 32):
- CX will deploy the A340-300 on all daily flights again.

Since CX is retiring the 744 I was kinda hoping for a 77W. Perhaps to many premium seats?
I was wondering if I heard correct this flight is shared with CDG so not a direct HKG - AMS - HKG ?
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:07 am

Quoting Hooverman (Reply 33):
Since CX is retiring the 744 I was kinda hoping for a 77W. Perhaps to many premium seats?

Not enough 77W's rather   CX has a new 77W config without first class, but with Y+ (32 seats), Business (40 seats) and 268 standard Y seats. Pretty sure after the A340s are retired this kind of 77W will go to AMS, but at the moment CX only has 2 of those aircraft in their fleet. There are more coming though.

Quoting Hooverman (Reply 33):
I was wondering if I heard correct this flight is shared with CDG so not a direct HKG - AMS - HKG ?

Flight times indicate that it is still a direct flight...
146,318/19/20/21,AB6,332,343,345,388,722,732/3/4/5/G/8,9,742,74E,744,752,762,763,772,77E,773,77W,AT4/7,ATP,CRK,E90,F50/7
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:04 pm

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 34):

Thx for the info.
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:05 pm

Flemish media and MTV USA covered the story about Tomorrowland's co-operation with Brussels Airlines to fly in 2.000 partyanimals from arround the world. From as far as Australia people are flying in to see what Tomorrowland actually is, after it was chosen last year as the best dancefestival on earth and the "aftermovie" went viral online when more then 44 million people watched it on Youtube.

Some facts:

Brussels Airlines flew in 2.000 people from 16 destinations in Europe and New York, those people were spread on 25 flights, some of them dedicated charterflights, others with blocked seats on regular flights. On SN502 from JFK alone were 140 people bound for Tomorrowland (which is a small number since the organisation had 3.000 requests from JFK alone. All 2.000 packages (which included flights, transport, hotel or campingground and an entrance ticket) were sold in less then 2 hours after then went for sale. According to the media it generated 600.000 EUR in extra revenue for SN which means that on average 300 EUR per package was dedicated for the flight). At each airport of departure there was a dedicated "Tomorrowland" check-in while in Brussels they would receive their tickets and were transported to the festivalground by busses. For the spotters in Europe, try to catch OO-SSG on camera since this was the plane that actually received Tomorrowland decals (only 1 plane was branded with Tomorrowland).

If you want to see what it was on board I have a couple of links with news footage (in Dutch).


VRT: http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuw...journaal/2.23529/2.23530/1.1380740
VTM: http://nieuws.vtm.be/entertainment/2...yflights-vliegen-naar-tomorrowland
ATV: http://www.atv.be/item/25-volle-vluchten-komen-aan-voor-tomorrowland
MTV USA: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/169...dimitri-vegas-like-mike-tour.jhtml (only the first couple of seconds)
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:47 pm

Quoting Hooverman (Reply 33):
I was wondering if I heard correct this flight is shared with CDG so not a direct HKG - AMS - HKG ?

In W12 its HKG-AMS-HKG again. This Summer its HKG-AMS-CDG-AMS-HKG when the 744 operates CX270/1
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:20 am

Quoting bralo20 (Reply 36):
Flemish media and MTV USA covered the story about Tomorrowland's co-operation with Brussels Airlines to fly in 2.000 partyanimals from arround the world.



See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0TjEROXd2k

All happy passengers if you ask me  
 
LJ
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:51 pm

Some route news

BRU
Air Europe will start 13 weekly flights as of W12 with an E190
United will use the 767-400 on EWR-BRU between November 4th and November 26th

AMS
Transavia will fly 2 weekly (Tuesday and Thursday) to Ilha do Sal this Winter.
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:19 pm

SN will add a weekly service to Mombasa from November 2d onwards. This is in continuation from one of the NBO services.
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:06 pm

Some interesting upgrade of Brussels Airport has been revealed and is expected to be ready by the end of 2014. The tunnel between piers A and B will be replaced by a connecting building called "Connector".

More info here:
http://www.brusselsairport.be/en/corporate/news/26546/

This will be a very much appreciated addition. The downside of this is that the passengers disembarking in pier A will reach the baggage claim faster than they do now. The apparent baggage waiting time will be even longer than now   
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:16 pm

What is the exact reason for the cutting of LED-AMS?
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much.
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:07 pm

According to www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl American Airlines is cutting their flights to BRU.
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much.
 
bralo20
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:28 pm

Quoting FlyingHollander (Reply 43):
According to www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl American Airlines is cutting their flights to BRU.

Correct, it has it's own thread: AA To Cease Activities At BRU As Of 1 Nov (by edoca Aug 14 2012 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:12 pm

ANR

Cityjet will cancel its 6 weekly ANR-MAN flight as of September 17th

AMS/LUX
KLM wil increase AMS-LUX from 21 weekly flights to 27 weekly flights (additional early afternoon rotation)

AMS
KLM will increase AMS-BHX from 5 daily to 6 daily as of September 3rd. Additional flight will be operated by F70

KLM will increase AMS-NRT to 11 weekly for the remainder of S12 as of September 12th.

Belavia will serve Minsk - Amsterdam 5 weekly with a CRJ in W12 instead of the previously planned 737-500. Still the frequency increases to 5 weekly.

United will send their 787 to AMS in W12. The 787 will be deployed on IAH-AMS as of December 4th (first arrival on December 5th, thus a good present from St. Nicolas) till March 29th. This will replace the 767-400.

BRU
Flybe cancels MAN-BRU as of September 10th. However it looks as if SN is taking over these flights with Avro and A319.

[Edited 2012-08-23 13:16:46]

[Edited 2012-08-23 13:17:16]
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:36 pm

Some route changes

AMS
LH reduces FRA-AMS from 7 daily to 6 daily


BRU
LH reduces from 10 daily to 8 daily

Sn will deploy the A319 on BRU-MAN

TG will use the 77W to BRU instead of 772
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:56 pm

Meanwhile the flights of BA to RTM are no officially announced, so no slot warmers as for the time being.

LH will start 2 x daily RTM-MUC as from October 1st.

Nice so read about tomorrowland here. i was not able to visit this year because i was not able to obtain a ticket for this amazing dance event. Hope for better luck next time.
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:35 pm

easyJet will discontinue BCN-AMS and MAD-AMS in W12. MAD-AMS will be discontinued as of December 3rd and BCN-AMS as of October 27th.
 
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RE: Benelux Aviation #4

Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:08 am

Quoting LJ (Reply 46):
TG will use the 77W to BRU instead of 772

Flights will be operated by the 3-class Boeing 777-300ER leased from Jet Airways. So not only an upgrade from the -200 to the -300 but also 2 to 3-class upgrade. Starting from February an additional weekly flight will be offered.

Bangkok – Brussels
eff 28OCT12 3-class Boeing 777-300ER (leased from Jet Airways) replaces 2-class 777-200ER. Seat map has been adjusted as of 03SEP12 to reflect the 3-class aircraft, including introduction of First Class.
eff 12FEB13 Service increases from 3 to 4 weekly

TG934 BKK0030 – 0700BRU 77W x135
TG935 BRU1245 – 0535+1BKK 77W x135

Day 7 service begins from 12FEB13

Source: Airlineroute.net

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