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Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:41 am

Earlier in May, TAM had been awarded 15 new weekly frequencies for Brazil-USA service. There was no secret about GIG-JFK going from 6x weekly to daily, CNF-MIA from 3x weekly to daily and BSB-MIA from 4x weekly to daily. 7x weekly frequencies were still undisclosed.
My sources have now revealed that those frequencies will fund daily GIG-MCO flights to be launched in October.
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:18 am

Thanks for the warning. That means more tour groups to Disney World.
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:57 am

That's the largest O&D from Rio without non-stop service being covered !
Lets see what schedule they will add (seems they will try GIG-MCO overnight and MCO-GIG daylight, and this may constitutes the first daylight daily service, non-stop to Rio from the United States).

Even better.. seems that GIG-MIA will be upgauged to a daily A332.

It seems AA and JJ are playing chess...
first was JJ increasing seat offer to MIA, then AA react twice and now, JJ will be back.
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:28 pm

Orlando is a huge leisure market from Brazil, and with the changes being implemented to make it easier for Brazilians to get US visas, it should be even bigger.
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:45 pm

I wonder if they'd go for GRU-IAD & GIG-IAD when they bolt Star for OneWorld...

[Edited 2012-06-08 12:46:26]
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:56 pm

Poor Orlando. Prepare for the onslaught...  
In thrust we trust!
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:36 pm

Quoting Sulley (Reply 5):
Poor Orlando. Prepare for the onslaught..


If I might ask, onslaught of what? And why "Poor Orlando"?

Brazilian tourists helping the local economy by shopping, dining out, sleeping in hotels, visiting theme parks?

Seems to me increased tourism will only make Orlando less poor. Perhaps that's why the US Government decided it was good policy to open two additional consulates in Brazil last month and streamline visa procedures for Brazilians. Brazilian tourists spent over $2.7 billion in the USA in 2011, putting Brazil ahead of the UK as the second-highest total contributing country to US tourist revenue. Forgive me if I'm missing the bad news in all of this.

[Edited 2012-06-08 14:37:24]
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:16 pm

@ beertrucker and Sulley... I hope this is an attempt at dry humor.

We will take all the Brazilians we can. The growing middle class visitor from Brazil on average spend more in Central Florida than any other international visitor group. With the economy still on shaky ground, I hope for continued success for the 3 TAM MCO flights full of Brazilians and hope for 20 more just like it. As long as they willing to spend their money here, Let Them Come.
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:25 pm

Quoting Sulley (Reply 5):
Poor Orlando. Prepare for the onslaught...
Quoting beertrucker (Reply 1):
Thanks for the warning. That means more tour groups to Disney World.

You guys don't want TAM, we here in Houston would love to have a Brazilian carrier give PMCO and now UA a run for it's money, The folks at HAS have been trying to entice any Brazilian carrier to our li'l airport since the days of RG and VASP, to no avail.
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:50 pm

Wow. That would be awesome. Thanks for the heads up, C010T3.
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:26 am

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 8):
You guys don't want TAM, we here in Houston would love to have a Brazilian carrier give PMCO and now UA a run for it's money, The folks at HAS have been trying to entice any Brazilian carrier to our li'l airport since the days of RG and VASP, to no avail.

Agreed. And the oil & gas segment could be better covered by TAM, but they don't go for new markets.
But GIG-MCO is a market for sure they might take advantage.
New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:37 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 10):
Agreed. And the oil & gas segment could be better covered by TAM, but they don't go for new markets.

That's too bad, IAH could possibly be winner for them, one day maybe.
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:55 am

I have found that unless you book a UA flight that is operated by TAM, that TAM is Muito expensive, especially in F or C. However I have only have encountered this on the TAM GIG/JFK non-stop..
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:47 am

Quoting Clipper136 (Reply 7):
@ beertrucker and Sulley... I hope this is an attempt at dry humor.

We will take all the Brazilians we can. The growing middle class visitor from Brazil on average spend more in Central Florida than any other international visitor group. With the economy still on shaky ground, I hope for continued success for the 3 TAM MCO flights full of Brazilians and hope for 20 more just like it. As long as they willing to spend their money here, Let Them Come.

I hope they use the 773 on the route too
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:55 am

Not surprised. Last time I went to Disney it seemed like 1/2 the people were from Brazil.
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:52 am

Orlando has become a top destination for TAM. Tickets on this segment can be just as high as MIA and JFK, sometimes even more expensive. Cargo is another big suprise! I say JJ is extremely happy to have invested in MCO, not only for the obvious leisure market, but also for the high yield passengers bound to central florida.
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:03 am

Exactly, not to mention the fact that flying to MCO means not having to bother with direct competitors, since it is improbable that a US airline will launch long-haul flights from MCO any time soon.
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:08 am

The Brazilian economy is slowing, the 'boom' seems to be over, and our "new middle class" is now drowning in debts.
Do you guys think there will be demand for 2 daily GRU-MCO + 1 daily GIG-MCO?
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:07 am

Quoting Sulley (Reply 5):
Poor Orlando. Prepare for the onslaught...
Quoting jpyvr (Reply 6):
If I might ask, onslaught of what? And why "Poor Orlando"?

Good heavens! I agree with JPYVR. Brazilians are great - they're gorgeous, they're fun - and know how to enjoy life - especially where music is involved. Why wouldn't any American city be thrilled to have them visit? I am sure Disney and Universal and SeaWorld are thanking their lucky stars that the folks from Brazil are traveling to Orlando.

(P.S. any Brazilians reading this feel free to stop by and visit us folk down here in San Diego. No, we don't have non-stop flights, but we're worth the effort of finding us!)
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:04 am

Quoting Clipper136 (Reply 7):
Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 8):

OK I work at Disney World. I mean it is time to be ready for the wave of tourist coming in on TAM. We are already preparing for the Aug rush to come.
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:50 am

Quoting Sulley (Reply 5):
Poor Orlando. Prepare for the onslaught...

Huh ? I am assuming you are joking here. Right ?

Quoting jpyvr (Reply 6):
Brazilian tourists helping the local economy by shopping, dining out, sleeping in hotels, visiting theme parks?

I am quite baffled as to why someone would classify that as so much of a '' bad '' thing for their city/country. I wish they were flocking to Jamaica in those large numbers as well !!

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 18):
Why wouldn't any American city be thrilled to have them visit?

Myself is wondering same.
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:00 am

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 18):
P.S. any Brazilians reading this feel free to stop by and visit us folk down here in San Diego. No, we don't have non-stop flights, but we're worth the effort of finding us!

I have visited, and I was relieved to be in a place in the US where I didn't hear Portuguese around me.

Quoting beertrucker (Reply 19):
OK I work at Disney World. I mean it is time to be ready for the wave of tourist coming in on TAM. We are already preparing for the Aug rush to come.

Don't you mean July rush? The kids are back in school by August.
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:30 pm

Quoting Sulley (Reply 5):
Poor Orlando. Prepare for the onslaught...

Of beautiful women. When I was working at MCO, I had a customs seal so I could get into customs area and I liked going down to Customs just to see the hot women coming in on that afternoon flight.
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:10 pm

Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 21):
Don't you mean July rush? The kids are back in school by August.

July sorry your right. But the biggest rush is Jan/Feb by far. I know I am already have been assigned to help with the buses for them at the resorts.
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:19 pm

Quoting beertrucker (Reply 23):
July sorry your right. But the biggest rush is Jan/Feb by far. I know I am already have been assigned to help with the buses for them at the resorts.

Both are stronger, but to be very honest, January and July are the stronger ones, followed by August and the first weeks of February and the last two of December. These are the gold times for airlines flying Brazil-US.
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:03 pm

Quoting Sulley (Reply 5):
Poor Orlando. Prepare for the onslaught...

I think the Orlando area, and indeed most tourist areas, would be thrilled with the thoughts of a 330/777 arriving daily, full of tourists who will fill hotel rooms and spend money in the area. European airlines have reduced capacity to MCO recently, so any new route is good news
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:18 pm

Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 21):
I have visited, and I was relieved to be in a place in the US where I didn't hear Portuguese around me.

I can totally relate to that!! There's nothing more annoying when you're abroad and out of sudden you realize your surroundings aren't as foreign as you expected. I was in Chile last month, during low season, and all I could here in the streets of Santiago, Puerto Varas and Pucón was Portuguese.
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:52 pm

Quoting Dellatorre (Reply 26):

Really? You don't like it? I think it kind of gives you a little feeling of home. When I went to Hawaii and found some people speaking Spanish I felt like I wasn't completely foreign and an outsider. Just my opinion..
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:36 pm

Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 27):
Really? You don't like it? I think it kind of gives you a little feeling of home. When I went to Hawaii and found some people speaking Spanish I felt like I wasn't completely foreign and an outsider. Just my opinion..

Trust me, when I'm traveling the last thing I'm concerned about is feeling like home!! Off course, if you go to NYC, Miami or Orlando you have put up with the Brazilian leisure groups, specially the ones from CVC, which I try to avoid as much as possible. Anyways this is just a view from another tourist, not from the Floridians and New Yorkers that are receiving these Brazilian "adventurers".
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:15 am

It's official! TAM applied for slots at GIG! Schedule effective October 29th, 2012:

JJ8114 332 daily GIG 1010 MCO 1715
JJ8115 332 daily MCO 1910 GIG 0540+1

Source: http://www2.anac.gov.br/hotran/

[Edited 2012-06-13 04:23:25]
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:52 am

Quoting Dellatorre (Reply 26):
I was in Chile last month, during low season, and all I could here in the streets of Santiago, Puerto Varas and Pucón was Portuguese.

Passengers from Brazil are continuing to visit Chile in increasing numbers which is great! Similarly, Chileans are increasingly traveling to Brazil, specifically GRU, GIG and SSA! Starting next month, LAN will increase frequency on the SCL-GRU route to 5x daily year-round and will offer 8 additional weekly flights on the SCL-GRU route during July. Plus LA will increase frequency on the SCL-GIG route to 2x daily year-round, (LA will continue to operate the SCL-GRU-GIG route daily; thus SCL will have three daily flights to GIG)!

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 29):
It's official! TAM applied for slots at GIG! Schedule effective October 29th, 2012:

Awesome news for TAM! Three daily non-stop flights between Brazil and MCO is quite impressive!
 
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:27 pm

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 29):
It's official! TAM applied for slots at GIG! Schedule effective October 29th, 2012:

Very decent schedule. This will be GIG's only daylight flight to the US. I wonder how will the competition respond since MCO bound pax, these days, fly mostly with US and AA.
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:25 pm

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 29):
It's official! TAM applied for slots at GIG! Schedule effective October 29th, 2012:

JJ8114 332 daily GIG 1010 MCO 1715
JJ8115 332 daily MCO 1910 GIG 0540+1

That was quick !
Coiote, congratulations for the information obtained, you rock !

It confirms TAM is taking all cautions not to have a heavy operation during the night bank in Rio (the lounge have limitations as well as gates to be used). During the morning there's a lot of room on the international area and just share the space with EZE and the possible GIG-SCL morning departure.
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RE: Rumour: TAM To Launch GIG-MCO In October

Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:07 pm

Quoting Clipper136 (Reply 7):
@ beertrucker and Sulley... I hope this is an attempt at dry humor.

We will take all the Brazilians we can. The growing middle class visitor from Brazil on average spend more in Central Florida than any other international visitor group. With the economy still on shaky ground, I hope for continued success for the 3 TAM MCO flights full of Brazilians and hope for 20 more just like it. As long as they willing to spend their money here, Let Them Come.

I just was transferred from MCO last month, but I lived four miles from Disney in Dr. Phillips. It was very trying with all those tourists around... to say the least.

I couldn't even go to a store without being almost trampled by terro, er, tourist groups from Brazil trying to seek out the best deals on cheap Chinese made goods.

[Edited 2012-06-13 08:10:16]
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