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WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:18 pm

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/06...onitor-500000-donations-video.html

What a great gesture on their part. This lady deserves so much more. According to a WN FA post on my Facebook page, they donated the airfare and Disneyland admission tickets to Ms. Klein and her family.

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Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:33 pm

This is one reason I admire WN. That and the little things they do, like a birthday card in the mail or unsolicited help in carrying a bag when I had to use crutches when walking, or even something as minor as a full can of soda instead of the little plastic cupful justifies me continuing to give them my business.
 
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Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:04 pm

Nice move, WN! They do their share of stupid stuff but in this case they got some good PR and did a nice thing!

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Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:11 pm

The recent topic on outsourcing painted WN as a has been, out of touch and destined to fail.

This gesture is typical WN, and one of the reasons I fly them and admire them. The reality is that with WN, what you see is what you get. They are far more consistent in their product than any other U.S. carrier. Yes, their labor costs are high, but they will work it out. Is it a complaint that they pay their employees well?
 
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Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:18 pm

I think that this incident only highlights how generous people and companies like WN are. I saw a related news story about that poor lady. Over $350,000 and other gifts have been donated to this lady. Makes me smile. 
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Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:34 pm

Quoting av8orwalk (Thread starter):
What a great gesture on their part. This lady deserves so much more.

It's a nice gesture, but c'mon .... if Southwest wants to hand out vacations and people want to donate money for everytime someone gets taunted by kids, can we all cash in?
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Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:03 pm

What makes ME smile is the millions Delta has raised for Breast cancer research! Comparatively so little spent by WN on this one woman seems to be a wasteful, cheap, publicity stunt. Scouring the media for a prime candidate, they happened upon this. That money would've been better spent on anti-bullying measures.
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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:03 am

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 6):
What makes ME smile is the millions Delta has raised for Breast cancer research! Comparatively so little spent by WN on this one woman seems to be a wasteful, cheap, publicity stunt. Scouring the media for a prime candidate, they happened upon this. That money would've been better spent on anti-bullying measures.

At worst, it would only cost the airline a few hundred dollars...
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:13 am

Quoting stlgph (Reply 5):
It's a nice gesture, but c'mon .... if Southwest wants to hand out vacations and people want to donate money for everytime someone gets taunted by kids, can we all cash in?

  

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 6):
What makes ME smile is the millions Delta has raised for Breast cancer research! Comparatively so little spent by WN on this one woman seems to be a wasteful, cheap, publicity stunt. Scouring the media for a prime candidate, they happened upon this. That money would've been better spent on anti-bullying measures.

  

Nothing against the lady BUT the media is JUST focusing on her yet thousands of kids are bullied EVERYDAY and nothing is done about it.
Prime example:: I cannot remember what state but I believe it was either Texas or California a teacher was fired and might be pressed charges for allowing all 24 students in her class to line up and slap the one student in her class that bullied all the students thru-out the entire school year. Grant I must say that was a bit harsh but atleast the teacher acknowledged that there was bullying and tried to correct it. Anytime a parent tells school officials that their child are being bullied, the school just responds that the parent is crazy, overreacting, and overprotecting their child. I know this from first hand experience several times. Most parents of children causing the bullying aren't diciplining their kids enough! Some even encourage it! This topic makes me sick!!!!
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:22 am

The money collected for this woman's vacation has now passed $450,000. She could take a around the world trip in high style for that amount!

As far as Southwest goes, money cannot buy the kind of good will that Southwest will receive for that Disneyworld trip. It's a nice gesture on the behalf of Southwest. Let's just hope the woman is not a "person of size" or has a drink before getting onboard so she will not be deboarded because a ticket agent smells alcohol on her breath.
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:32 am

The public has now donated over $550,000. I don't think she'll waste time in a cramped coach seat.  
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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:45 am

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 6):
What makes ME smile is the millions Delta has raised for Breast cancer research! Comparatively so little spent by WN on this one woman seems to be a wasteful, cheap, publicity stunt

This is not the only donation or fundraiser for charity WN does. Every single Southwest station has a Charitable Giving Board that donates dozens...sometimes hundreds of free confirmed roundtrip tickets on Southwest each year to local charities for fundraising purposes. And that is just the tip of the iceberg.
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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:05 am

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 6):
What makes ME smile is the millions Delta has raised for Breast cancer research! Comparatively so little spent by WN on this one woman seems to be a wasteful, cheap, publicity stunt. Scouring the media for a prime candidate, they happened upon this. That money would've been better spent on anti-bullying measures.

Odd that a goodwill gesture could spark such outrage.
 
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:27 am

Good for her. She definitely deserves it. Those children who bullied her are savages. Seeing bullying becoming more and more common, as well as more brash, makes me worry about the future generations of not just the US, but the entire human race as a whole.
 
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:36 am

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 12):
Odd that a goodwill gesture could spark such outrage.

Some people's selfish/child-like dislike of a certain entity or person tends to cloud rational judgement I believe. Everyone should be commended for all charitable work that is done. Where it is to breast cancer research or the many community contributions made.
 
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:44 am

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 12):
Odd that a goodwill gesture could spark such outrage.

Outrage? Isn't that a little overdramatic? It's a publicity stunt disguised as 'goodwill gesture', plain and simple.
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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:37 am

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 6):


What makes ME smile is the millions Delta has raised for Breast cancer research!

Sure. But we can also very easily make the argument that Breast Cancer research is the most over-funded, under-resulted charity ever. It's just about the least dangerous cancer there is if you're talking about fatality rates but there is no end in sight to the amount pink washing going on for it. Does that make DL's (and AA's for that matter) pink airplanes a waste of time and money, or a cheap publicity stunt? No less so than what WN is doing here. I think we need to let it go and let this woman enjoy her well earned time in the sun. If WN wants to help, good on them. No doubt your friends at DL had a chance too...
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:19 am

I admite Southwest more than any other airline. I still think most southwest employees try to do a good job and go out their way when passengers have problems, actually care about the airline, and respect it...... what legacy can you say that about?

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 6):
What makes ME smile is the millions Delta has raised for Breast cancer research! Comparatively so little spent by WN on this one woman seems to be a wasteful, cheap, publicity stunt. Scouring the media for a prime candidate, they happened upon this. That money would've been better spent on anti-bullying measures.

It is your right to respect an airline for whatever is important to you and its your opinion....... but How much of deltas own money have they donated without gaining something or reducing liabilies aka miles? I know they let you donate your own earned delta miles. Their own website says Since 2005 (which is seven years time), Delta EMPLOYEES and CUSTOMER have raised a total of $3.5 million for The Breast Cancer Research Foundation but how much has delta given? I would respect delta alot more if they donated 3 million to breast cancer research themselves. I am pretty sure southwest gives alot more to charity than delta does. In just one year southwests one event raised $12 million for the ronald mcdonald house charity. I also think southwest is a ton larger than delta in offering free trips to people who need transportation for medical care, foster kids, and each station has free tickets they can give out to local causes and i think they get to select local small causes? Tell me im wrong but i think southwest does a ton more than most airlines and is getting less back. Delta lets you join the sky club and 10% of the sale go to chairty or donate miles which reduces their liability that also seems like a publicity stunt
 
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:24 am

How can I get a gig like this lady? A few insults and I get a half million bucks and free airfare to Disney! Just how is she deserving of all of this? A movie and book deal are probably next. Damn this country needs a hero. What race are these kids anyway? Could this also be a "hate crime"? Beam me up!!
 
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:53 am

Why must there be so much cynicism? Does it really matter why WN donated the trip? No. At the end of the day the lady is getting a free trip and some vacation time courtesy of WN. Did WN do this for PR? more than likely yes, but call me naive, I would like to think that they actually care about the situation.

People are always saying the we need to be nicer to each other and that companies should give back more often. Then when companies/people actually give back they are met with cynicism and bitterness. This is what makes the world a darker place, having to deal with all these Debbie Downers that are always finding the negative in everything. Why cant we just commend WN for their efforts?

Does it really matter WHY a person/company donates? I dont think so. At the end of the day, the charity is getting a donation. If I donate $1 million to Toys for Tots, do my motives matter? It could be cause I sincerely care for the organization or it could be because I want to look good. At the end of the day, Toys for Tots is getting $1million that they can use to buy toys for children.

Obviously it is better that someone donates because they really care, but I frankly think that it is irrelevant.

Also, comparing WN and DL and seeing who donates more is rather immature. I think we can say that both carriers, along with others, give and donate to various charities and they should all be commended for it, but to compare and say that one is somehow better than the other, is narrow minded and childish.

If my neighbor donates $500 to a charity and I donate $5, is he a better person? No. What matters is that we both care and we are both trying to help in the best way we can.
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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:39 am

Quoting CapEd388 (Reply 19):
Also, comparing WN and DL and seeing who donates more is rather immature. I think we can say that both carriers, along with others, give and donate to various charities and they should all be commended for it, but to compare and say that one is somehow better than the other, is narrow minded and childish.

If my neighbor donates $500 to a charity and I donate $5, is he a better person? No. What matters is that we both care and we are both trying to help in the best way we can.

You do make some good points and i hear you but a discussion turned childish is usual for a.net   your neighbor did help out alot more than you did he might not be a better person overall but he sure was more generous and helped out alot more  
 
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:51 am

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 20):
but he sure was more generous and helped out alot more

Not necessarily - if naighbour has $1,000,000 and donates $500 and you have $10 and donate $5 - who is in reality giving "more" of their spare cash to the charity?
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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:38 am

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 6):
What makes ME smile is the millions Delta has raised for Breast cancer research! Comparatively so little spent by WN on this one woman seems to be a wasteful, cheap, publicity stunt. Scouring the media for a prime candidate, they happened upon this. That money would've been better spent on anti-bullying measures.

+1! While it is a nice gesture on WN's behalf, it's still PR. Of course, most charitable donations given by any corporation are PR or tax write-offs..

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 14):
Some people's selfish/child-like dislike of a certain entity or person tends to cloud rational judgement I believe. Everyone should be commended for all charitable work that is done.

If everyone should be commended, why hasn't Delta been commended for *also* donating charity? We can get into quantities and how much each entity has given to X amount of charity, but the truth still remains that Delta's breast cancer research donations remain pretty unknown to the general public.
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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:54 am

Quoting Tbone354 (Reply 18):

How can I get a gig like this lady? A few insults and I get a half million bucks and free airfare to Disney! Just how is she deserving of all of this? A movie and book deal are probably next. Damn this country needs a hero. What race are these kids anyway? Could this also be a "hate crime"? Beam me up!!

See watching the video damn near broke my heart, but possibly because I was bullied throughout my entire school life (mainly for the colour of my hair). I was subjected to being pushed to the ground and kicked causing internal bleeding a few times (I later found out I have a blood condition which possibly didn't help). All I got was a pat on the back with the words "it will be alright".
I probably am being a little cynical, but she's benefiting in a massive way from something many, many others have put up with and with worse consequences. A friend of mine was bullied to the point of committing suicide, but alas what do I know?

Good on WN for capitalizing. Nothing like a bit of good PR.

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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:18 pm

Quoting CapEd388 (Reply 19):
Why must there be so much cynicism? Does it really matter why WN donated the trip? No. At the end of the day the lady is getting a free trip and some vacation time courtesy of WN. Did WN do this for PR? more than likely yes, but call me naive, I would like to think that they actually care about the situation.

I think you are absolutly right!! After seening the video....she could use some time off....those kids were cruel and relentless, no matter what the motives WN have all that matters is some one deserving is getting a break!

Quoting Tbone354 (Reply 18):
How can I get a gig like this lady? A few insults and I get a half million bucks and free airfare to Disney! Just how is she deserving of all of this? A movie and book deal are probably next. Damn this country needs a hero. What race are these kids anyway? Could this also be a "hate crime"? Beam me up!!

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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:58 pm

Because the thing a bus monitor wants the most on their vacation is to be surrounded by more elementary and middle school kids. Should've sent her to Vegas instead.
 
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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:59 pm

Quoting GymClassHero (Reply 13):
Good for her. She definitely deserves it. Those children who bullied her are savages. Seeing bullying becoming more and more common, as well as more brash, makes me worry about the future generations of not just the US, but the entire human race as a whole

It amazes me that children are so vicious, mostly the ones who don't get bullied themselves. The things that were said would have gotten me smacked across the living room and back by my Father if I had been doing any of that, and you know what, I would have deserved it. People today are not always able to provide the proper moral structure kids need to become functional adults. Next stop for these kids will be prison for the hatred that was evident in how they spoke to her. IMO.

Quoting Tbone354 (Reply 18):
How can I get a gig like this lady? A few insults and I get a half million bucks and free airfare to Disney! Just how is she deserving of all of this? A movie and book deal are probably next. Damn this country needs a hero. What race are these kids anyway? Could this also be a "hate crime"? Beam me up!!

I don't believe race was an issue, just weight. Being overweight is hard for you physically and mentally. She's not stupid she knows she's overweight, she most likely does have some self-esteem issues already about it, the last thing she needed was a bunch of young people make her feel so awful, when she was being a volunteer monitor for their school trip. What a bunch of unthankful ingrates. I heard one parent speaking about how this will never happen again with his kid, and one of the kids that did this spoke up and acted like his parents were making him apologize.

Quoting CapEd388 (Reply 19):
People are always saying the we need to be nicer to each other and that companies should give back more often. Then when companies/people actually give back they are met with cynicism and bitterness. This is what makes the world a darker place, having to deal with all these Debbie Downers that are always finding the negative in everything. Why cant we just commend WN for their efforts?

Your words hit true with me, and flow with how I feel about our future, at least what I hope for our future.

Quoting gingersnap (Reply 23):
See watching the video damn near broke my heart, but possibly because I was bullied throughout my entire school life (mainly for the colour of my hair). I was subjected to being pushed to the ground and kicked causing internal bleeding a few times (I later found out I have a blood condition which possibly didn't help). All I got was a pat on the back with the words "it will be alright".

My fellow gingers unite, I too suffered the same pain you did, I was relentlessly tormented throughout my school years and even as an adult about my hair color, which when I was younger, was so orange it gave Braniff a run for their money. My British raised parents said about the same things to me, although fiercely loyal, they just were not super warm and fuzzy. I'm fine with it now, but I always wished i could have had at least one good tan instead of sunburns.
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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:27 pm

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 16):
Outrage? Isn't that a little overdramatic? It's a publicity stunt disguised as 'goodwill gesture', plain and simple.

This is exacly what i was going to say. Its a win-win. Piggy-backing on the now very popular story, costinng them far less than if they had to come up with a proper campaign. Now if she takes the triip, i bet there will be cameras there etc. The cost to them is marginal. NOW, what they can do is make a sizable donation to bullying awareness caauses...but we will soon forget that. Well nice of them to offer, I guess
 
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:32 pm

When I saw that video, I was shocked.. I remind you that that's one of the generations that will have to pay when I retire (Still many years to go though) It's just disrespectfull..
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:43 pm

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Nothing against the lady BUT the media is JUST focusing on her yet thousands of kids are bullied EVERYDAY and nothing is done about it.
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Why must there be so much cynicism? Does it really matter why WN donated the trip?

I am impressed by those everyday that stand up for those being bullied and do it because it is the right thing to do. Those that everyday donate to charity and seek no recogintion. It was a cheap PR stunt and WN doesn't impress me much.
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:54 pm

Good for WN, a win-win for them. She definitely has received quite an outpouring of support from that video.

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 17):
In just one year southwests one event raised $12 million for the ronald mcdonald house charity.

Actually, it looks like that was over the course of 20+ years...not one  http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/n...thwest-gives-207000-to-ronald.html
http://www.blogsouthwest.com/news/so...rk-ronald-mcdonald-house-charities

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Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:19 pm

Quoting stlgph (Reply 5):
It's a nice gesture, but c'mon .... if Southwest wants to hand out vacations and people want to donate money for everytime someone gets taunted by kids, can we all cash in?

I agree. She got taunted by a few kids on a bus, she doesn't have terminal cancer. I'm not quite sure why people are donating thousands of dollars and trips to her because a few kids said some not so nice things to her. I'd be a millionaire 100x over if people donated money to me every time someone said something unpleasant to me.

Quoting Tbone354 (Reply 18):
How can I get a gig like this lady? A few insults and I get a half million bucks and free airfare to Disney! Just how is she deserving of all of this? A movie and book deal are probably next. Damn this country needs a hero. What race are these kids anyway? Could this also be a "hate crime"? Beam me up!!

Pretty much.

Quoting gingersnap (Reply 23):
I probably am being a little cynical, but she's benefiting in a massive way from something many, many others have put up with and with worse consequences. A friend of mine was bullied to the point of committing suicide, but alas what do I know?

I've had worse comments directed at me than what she experienced, and I didn't get a half million dollars for it. Like it or not, this is an average day, on an average school bus, in an average school district - it's certainly nothing exceptional, it just happened to be videotaped.
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:30 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 26):
She's not stupid she knows she's overweight, she most likely does have some self-esteem issues already about it, the last thing she needed was a bunch of young people make her feel so awful, when she was being a volunteer monitor for their school trip.

She was not a volunteer. As a bus monitor it is her job to maintain order on the bus which is something, quite frankly, she is not capable of doing. She was far too timid and ceded her authority to the children. I am not defending the little brats but I wish I could be incompetent at my job and get 600K and free trips.
 
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:36 pm

They should make some of the stay-at-home moms do her job.
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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:43 pm

A good move on WN's part, glad to see it.

Quoting GymClassHero (Reply 13):
Seeing bullying becoming more and more common, as well as more brash, makes me worry about the future generations of not just the US, but the entire human race as a whole.

I wouldn't read THAT much into it. Bullying is nothing new and it's gone on for ages and the fact that children can be vicious isn't remarkable. If I had to bet money, I would say there hasn't been an increase in bullying or the viciousness thereof, just with the digital age, youtube, and smart phones, more of it is getting recorded/attention.
 
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:56 pm

Quoting sbworcs (Reply 21):

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 20):
but he sure was more generous and helped out alot more

Not necessarily - if naighbour has $1,000,000 and donates $500 and you have $10 and donate $5 - who is in reality giving "more" of their spare cash to the charity?

Are neighbors usually in the same economical group? I dont remember driving thru a trailer park and seeing a mansion ever randomly being in the middle of one.  
 
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Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:35 am

Quoting av8orwalk (Thread starter):

Makes me feel good I'm part of this organization though we are still a subsidierary. WN seems to do it right. Last week they threw their annual awards banquet and it was held in an exhibition hall where you could have parked a 747 and still had room! Wouldn't it be great, if WN and us FL would blackball the hooligans and their parents from flying with either of us. I'd like to see one of those wise ass bullies try to start you know what at the airport or on board. Or, we could fly those cretins roundtrip to get a scared straight tour or weekend at such hotspots as Attica or Leavenworth Federal Prison.
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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:57 am

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 17):

I admite Southwest more than any other airline. I still think most southwest employees try to do a good job and go out their way when passengers have problems, actually care about the airline, and respect it...... what legacy can you say that about?

Just about any legacy carrier. I bet you that everybody can give an example of an airline employee going out of their way to help out and trying to do a good job. Of course there are going to be bad stories but the vast majority of people try do the best job they can.
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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:02 pm

Quoting us330 (Reply 25):
Should've sent her to Vegas instead.

....or to an all inclusive adults only resort like Sandals or Couples.
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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:59 pm

Where does it end? Don't get me wrong it was an utterly despicable act on the part of these kids and they should be punished for it, but the lady was negligent in her job. She was there to prevent bullying. I'm glad she has been given this opportunity to better her own life and shed light on bullying, but come on, over 500K? There are far more desperate and deserving people and causes.
 
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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:23 pm

Quoting tjcab (Reply 27):
NOW, what they can do is make a sizable donation to bullying awareness caauses

What exactly is "bullying awareness" and what does the money go to? We are all familiar with bullying. Everyone experiences it to some degree. It's so easy to sit back and say someone should make donations to bullying awareness causes, but how exactly does one put money to proper use for that cause?

Quoting CapEd388 (Reply 19):
Why must there be so much cynicism? Does it really matter why WN donated the trip? No. At the end of the day the lady is getting a free trip and some vacation time courtesy of WN. Did WN do this for PR? more than likely yes, but call me naive, I would like to think that they actually care about the situation.

People are always saying the we need to be nicer to each other and that companies should give back more often. Then when companies/people actually give back they are met with cynicism and bitterness. This is what makes the world a darker place, having to deal with all these Debbie Downers that are always finding the negative in everything. Why cant we just commend WN for their efforts?

Does it really matter WHY a person/company donates? I dont think so. At the end of the day, the charity is getting a donation. If I donate $1 million to Toys for Tots, do my motives matter? It could be cause I sincerely care for the organization or it could be because I want to look good. At the end of the day, Toys for Tots is getting $1million that they can use to buy toys for children.

Obviously it is better that someone donates because they really care, but I frankly think that it is irrelevant.

Also, comparing WN and DL and seeing who donates more is rather immature. I think we can say that both carriers, along with others, give and donate to various charities and they should all be commended for it, but to compare and say that one is somehow better than the other, is narrow minded and childish.

If my neighbor donates $500 to a charity and I donate $5, is he a better person? No. What matters is that we both care and we are both trying to help in the best way we can.

   Great post! Lord knows WN could use some good PR after the continuous bashing that takes place on this site.

Grow up, people!

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Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:31 pm

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 6):
What makes ME smile is the millions Delta has raised for Breast cancer research! Comparatively so little spent by WN on this one woman seems to be a wasteful, cheap, publicity stunt.

I don't know about that. I am so thrilled that Delta raises so much money for Breast Cancer research, I really am. However to minimize what Southwest did isn't fair. Keep in mind the price of fuel and the fact that they actually gave up space on their aircraft (potential revenue). Could have been the make or break seat too, you never know.

Southwest is a great airline, I just wish they catered more to my travel needs because right now I have no reason to fly with them. All of my travel is on Delta or US Airways because they go where I go.
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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:18 pm

I could never have a job like that. I would have twisted their little necks one by one until their eyes popped out of their sockets and then fed the remains to the nearest Pit Bull.

Figuratively speaking, that is.
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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:36 pm

Nothing more than ambulance chasers looking for a victim to exploit. Guaranteed gain for little effort. This video likely caught the attention of someone at WN and they decided that this would be GREAT publicity. Take a seat at the lowest fare out of inventory, alert the media, make sure word gets out. However, the 'See how much GOOD we do?' vibe is misleading. The cost to WN is the same as if she were an employee. If the seat would be vacant anyway, only the cost of the fuel to haul her from A to B and back. I can't imagine that it cost WN over $500. DL did more, for more people, at greater cost that WN did for just one person. I would feel the same about ANY company doing the same as WN. I mention DL because this is a website about airlines, and I wanted to compare apples to apples. To quote philosopher Jeremy Bentham, "It is the greatest good to the greatest number of people which is the measure of right and wrong."

Even Spock, in ST3 TRoK said 'The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few', attributed to Surak.

How about this....'Thanks WN, for your exceptional generosity'   
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RE: WN Surprises Bullied Bus Monitor With Disney Trip

Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:18 pm

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 44):

Again, what is the downside here? SGK, inc pays DL & AA to paint their planes pink here and there (and seriously, is there really anyone left, even in the darkest recesses of appalacia that doesn't know about this cause?), and that's just dandy. But woe to WN for finding a seat for someone who was publicly abused, because they must have an angle here...
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