TheFlyer
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Lie-flat, Herringbone, First Class Sleeper Seats

Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:30 pm

Does anyone have any information related to lie-flat seats (e.g., first class sleeper seats) arranged in a herringbone fashion, which were developed or in use prior to 2002? I’m conducting research related to the development of these seats and am looking for any information I might be able to get a hold of.

If possible, I’m looking for information related to a herringbone seat(s) that has extra room or a space around the headrest, which is usable to the passenger when the seat is in the reclined (i.e., lie-flat) position. Currently, I know of several herringbone seats developed or in use during the 90’s or early 2000’s (e.g., the British Airways first class seat shown here - http://www.google.com/patents?id=flw...4vYMajl0gG4zPGpAw&ved=0CDgQ6wEwAA; and Virgin Atlantic’s upper class seat shown here - http://www.google.com/patents?id=MLC...ymH6nB0QHwvYjrAw&ved=0CDYQ6wEwAA).
Any information about other seats of this type would be much appreciated.
 
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Stitch
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RE: Lie-flat, Herringbone, First Class Sleeper Seats

Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:56 pm

The First Class center pair seats for airlines like BA, AF and UA don't really strike me as being "herringbone" in configuration.

When I think "herringbone", I think of the Business Class product of carriers like DL, VS and NZ.
 
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RE: Lie-flat, Herringbone, First Class Sleeper Seats

Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:24 pm

I guess I should clarify, I am basically looking for any angled seats including herringbone.
 
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RE: Lie-flat, Herringbone, First Class Sleeper Seats

Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:48 pm

The new Cathay Pacifc is another type of herringbone seat, forward facing.
 
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RE: Lie-flat, Herringbone, First Class Sleeper Seats

Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:30 am

Zone A - the nose section - of a 747 barely counts, I mean even early Pan Am 747-100s in 1970 of course had seats that faced slightly inward with the curvature of the cabin walls. The point of Herringbone layout is that it's an innovative way of making the most of the space, which the slightly inward-facing seats in Zone A of a jumbo isn't, it's just a natural response to the shape of the cabin. Btw - Corsair 747s have Y in the nose, and they curve inwards too.

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RE: Lie-flat, Herringbone, First Class Sleeper Seats

Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:36 am

PS don't forget, the staggered seating on Etihad, Swiss, Emirates and others is a form of Herringbone, except the seats themselves face forward. But it is undoubtedly an attempt to use the space as efficiently as possible, using the same theory.

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RE: Lie-flat, Herringbone, First Class Sleeper Seats

Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:53 pm

hi,

here is a great article about different types of seats.
http://www.ausbt.com.au/airline-busi...-seats-and-cabin-layouts-explained

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TheFlyer
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RE: Lie-flat, Herringbone, First Class Sleeper Seats

Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:43 pm

Does anyone know when the first angled seats were used in airplanes (or have any examples of that)? I've seen some very early versions, but more information would help too for the project. That type of info and the development into modern day angled seating (of course) would be great. Thanks.

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