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New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:05 am

When/Why did FAY (Fayetteville, NC) gain DC-9 Mainline Service? For as long as I can remember, I only remember Delta Connection operating this service.

Will other cities follow suit? Asheville, NC perhaps?
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:26 am

MDT has mainline service for the summer to ATL again. It usually runs Jun - Sep. Most of the time it is a MD-88 but once a week they sub a A319.
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:35 am

With AVL having now 10 daily 50 seat CRJ's to ATL for July, when do you upgrade the aircraft? This is also with the daily LGA flight back on line. The morning arrival and evening departure flights I take are packed.
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:24 pm

DL has a morning DC-9 departure from AVL on the schedule in September. Cities like AVL, FAY, MYR, CHA, etc... that have been DL Conx cities for several years could see M/L aircraft from time to time as they may fit in nicely for a/c utilization with the short turn-times to/from ATL instead sitting on the ground in ATL. Of course, as long as they could support the added capacity. Over the last few years, FAY has seen some scheduled MD-88 flights.
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:52 pm

DL definitely seems to change a/c types from day to day. GSP gets a varying mix of DC9, M88 and CR7/CR9 (along with the obligatory CRJs) depending on the day of the week.
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:56 pm

Delta is upgrading ATL-BZN (Bozeman,MT) on a Boeing 757 non-stop.

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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:37 pm

Just a few that have historically been DCI..at least over the past 6 year and up to 2 years ago AGS (exception being the masters), GSP, TYS, FAY, HSV, OKC, ICT, DSM, GSO, VPS, PHF, CAK, PWM, MHT to name a few. Around 2006/2007 the likes of PWM, MHT, VPS, PHF were havens for the CR7. Hell I remember them sending CR2s to EYW.
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:58 pm

With the 717s on the way, I wonder if we will see the three big Western Canada stations go mainline from Minneapolis/St. Paul again (also Salt Lake City-Vancouver).
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:07 pm

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 6):
Just a few that have historically been DCI..at least over the past 6 year and up to 2 years ago AGS (exception being the masters), GSP, TYS, FAY, HSV, OKC, ICT, DSM, GSO, VPS, PHF, CAK, PWM, MHT to name a few. Around 2006/2007 the likes of PWM, MHT, VPS, PHF were havens for the CR7. Hell I remember them sending CR2s to EYW.

Not necessarily. I remember mainline up to about 2007 in OKC. It disappeared until about fall of 2009. 3 daily right now, and I've heard rumors of SLC going to an A319.
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:16 pm

Quoting jetmatt777 (Reply 8):

Youre absolutely right. GSO saw the same fate although it may have been later. Maybe 2008?
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:20 pm

CHA is also getting mainline to ATL.

That's the benefit of a superhub (the largest in the World) like ATL, is that you can feed enough pax through there to make a mainline A/C work.
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:36 pm

Quoting rduddji (Reply 10):

I figured it was inevitable for CHA as this is the first summer its gotten a large RJ in the mix of high frequency CR2s.

[Edited 2012-06-23 09:36:55]
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:40 pm

PHF is all DCI once again. This move seemed to coincide with the drawdown of FL operations there.

Add ECP to the mainline list. A while back that was all DCI as well. Granted, that was at the old airport before ECP opened.

[Edited 2012-06-23 10:40:49]
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:44 pm

Quoting GSP psgr (Reply 7):
With the 717s on the way, I wonder if we will see the three big Western Canada stations go mainline from Minneapolis/St. Paul again (also Salt Lake City-Vancouver).

Wikipedia shows YYC Calgary as having seasonal mainline from MSP, and regular year-round service using OH. If DL sees an increase in demand then they will adjust accordingly. But DL seems slow to change with Canada.
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:55 pm

Quoting cat3dual (Reply 12):
PHF is all DCI once again. This move seemed to coincide with the drawdown of FL operations there.



Pitiful on Delta's part. PHF was getting a mix of DC9s, 88s, CR7s and CR2s at its peak. Now back down to all CR2s...

MLI also seems to be suffering from the "Delta only; no FL" syndrome. Was up to 5x daily CR7s now 3x CR7 and 2x CRJ in the middle of the summer. However, DL seems to be doing swell in DSM. Last year it was only 1 MD88, this summer they've got 2x 88 and 1x CR9.

Quoting cat3dual (Reply 12):
Add ECP to the mainline list. A while back that was all DCI as well. Granted, that was at the old airport before ECP opened.



Indeed. Before the ATRs retired, it was pretty much all turboprops to PFN.

MOB is another station that comes to mind. Has been a mix of CR2s and ATRs towards the end of their life.
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:20 pm

Quoting rduddji (Reply 10):
CHA is also getting mainline to ATL.

When is that going to happen? Would love it, my youth is filled with DC9, D9S and 72S flights in and out of CHA. MD-80s came later, then the spiral down to Comair and ASA...
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:32 pm

It's amazing how many of these places were DL mainline before the airlines used regionals......CHA, GSO, AVL, TYS, PWM, MHT............we had a 727-200 flight that went SLC-OKC-TUL in the 80s and 90s.....we had 757s to YEG and YYC.....YVR was a 727, I believe.
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:55 pm

When did BUF get mainline service to DTW, I know that they have it to ATL but at one time all they had was CRJ's running to DTW from BUF.
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:10 pm

Quoting FLYjoe (Reply 3):
DL has a morning DC-9 departure from AVL on the schedule in September. Cities like AVL, FAY, MYR, CHA, etc... that have been DL Conx cities for several years could see M/L aircraft from time to time as they may fit in nicely for a/c utilization with the short turn-times to/from ATL instead sitting on the ground in ATL. Of course, as long as they could support the added capacity. Over the last few years, FAY has seen some scheduled MD-88 flights.

Myrtle Beach gets a 60/40 mix of MD88s and CRJs during the summer, and all CRJs during the winters months.
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:16 pm

EYW comes to mind, though it was mentioned above. The performance capabilities of the 10 737-700s we brought in made that happen.

DAB and MLB seem to be all mainline now as well.

This is only a preview of what is come in the near future with the 717, assuming all the cards fall in place.
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:43 pm

I remember taking a DL mainline flight from ATL to TYS back in 1987 on a 757 when those were relatively new in the fleet. Nice quick morning flight, I clearly recall the pilot announcing our flying time would be 28 minutes!
I hope DL will be able to return some Southeastern cities to mainline service.
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:49 pm

Another set of markets that might be ripe for seasonal 717s are Wilmington, NC and Jacksonville, NC which gets a lot of beach traffic during the summer months for traffic to the beaches; US Airways tends to upgrade to 737s and CR9s on CLT-ILM in the summers and OAJ gets CR9s. OAJ is probably a stretch though.

On a personal note, I'd love to see something bigger than CR2s on DTW-GSP (used to be 4x daily DC9/D9S), but I'm not holding my breath.
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:03 pm

Quoting iahworldflyer (Reply 20):
I remember taking a DL mainline flight from ATL to TYS back in 1987 on a 757 when those were relatively new in the fleet.

I took a 752 flight TYS-ATL in early November 1987... a rather bumpy late evening flight, I was sitting in the first row behind the L2 door (with galley just ahead of L2) and one of the cabinet doors in the galley opened and plastic cups fell out and rolled down the aisle on climb out.

I wonder how much money was lost on these mainline flights back then compared to all the CRJ flights today.
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:27 pm

ILM-Wilmington, NC needs mainline service HORRIBLY!!!! From about April through October the beach/holiday crowds could fill at least 2-3 mainline a/c a day. At the very least the 90 seat RJs would be a welcome addition. Plus, ILM-LGA starts soon. USAirways is the only other carrier and they don't have a problem filling 737-300/400 and A319s to CLT along with E-170s. US also has RJs to PHL and LGA(soon to be DL). I dont understand why DL insists on the crappy 50 seat CRJs-maybe that is why US mainline to CLT is always full.
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:31 pm

Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 4):
DL definitely seems to change a/c types from day to day. GSP gets a varying mix of DC9, M88 and CR7/CR9 (along with the obligatory CRJs) depending on the day of the week.

Daily 737-800 as well. I think it spends the night here.
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:41 pm

Maybe SBN-ATL with 717's especially on Notre Dame Home Football weekends.
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:54 pm

Quoting mayor (Reply 16):
in the 80s and 90s.....we had 757s to YEG and YYC.....YVR was a 727, I believe.

In October 1991 DL had 3 daily 757s and one 727 from YYC to SLC, plus a 727 nonstop to LAX and another to DEN.

YEG only had one daily 727 to SLC.

YVR had 3 daily 727s to LAX, 1 727 to PDX and 1 737 to SFO.
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:15 pm

The last time I flew Delta from TYS to ATL was mainline.....in 1966 on a DC-7!  
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:49 pm

Quoting freakyrat (Reply 25):
Maybe SBN-ATL with 717's especially on Notre Dame Home Football weekends.

SBN has been getting mainline for 2 years now during the summer months to Atlanta. This year, 2x MD88,1x CR9 compared to 2x CRJ, 1x MD88 last year.
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:22 pm

Delta seems to be adding mainline in a lot of cities... MOT now has mainline services. Daily A319/A320 which will be upgraded to a MD-90 this July. It seems that the oil boom here is the driving factor. A small city that historically had 3 DC-9's a day now has 8 daily departures to MSP!
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:58 pm

Looks like ILM will be getting mainline service from ATL sometime in October. It will be a RON D95 !
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:58 pm

DSM has been receiving a RON MD-88 from ATL which started this Spring. This is the first time in several years IIRC that DSM has had mainline to ATL (usually CR7 service). This has came at the expense of CVG (DSM has historically almost always had CRJ's to CVG) and SLC (was ceased last year IIRC due to high fuel costs and has been tried before). MSP-DSM use to have DC-9/ A319 runs occasionally with NW as well. DCA-DSM also just recently just switched to US (Republic) from DL.
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:04 pm

Quoting iowaman (Reply 31):
DSM has been receiving a RON MD-88 from ATL which started this Spring. This is the first time in several years IIRC that DSM has had mainline to ATL (usually CR7 service).

MD-88 service on ATL-DSM actually started last June, minus a 2 month hiatus this winter. Now it's up to 2 MD88s daily and a CR9. Hopefully we'll see more mainline as the 717s come online.
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:26 pm

Quoting Q (Reply 5):
Delta is upgrading ATL-BZN (Bozeman,MT) on a Boeing 757 non-stop.

That's nothing new. ALT-BZN is a seasonal route that has seen a mix of 738 and 752 for quite a while.
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:12 am

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 24):
Daily 737-800 as well. I think it spends the night here.

I know that was the case until very recently. Haven't seen the 738 on Flightaware lately. But a quick check of GSP-ATL on delta.com reveals (from earliest to latest) MD88, CR9, D95, CR7 and 737-700, between & among the CRJs for this coming Monday.
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:31 am

SYR-ATL is going all MD-88 in the fall.
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:36 am

Those CHA flyers are loyal loyal to DL...

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 11):
I figured it was inevitable for CHA as this is the first summer its gotten a large RJ in the mix of high frequency CR2s.

Gotta love those 20 min flights.

Quoting SmokinL1011 (Reply 15):
ould love it, my youth is filled with DC9, D9S and 72S flights in and out of CHA.

I think I used to remember 732s from there....

My youth too is filled with DL DC9's, Piedmont 732s, AA 727s and Eastern Metro Express Jetsteam memories of CHA.
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:42 am

Yes. But when will FWA get mainline   
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:14 am

Quoting SmokinL1011 (Reply 15):
When is that going to happen? Would love it, my youth is filled with DC9, D9S and 72S flights in and out of CHA. MD-80s came later, then the spiral down to Comair and ASA...

Here you go... Good news for me, because I spend a lot of time in CHA. Love that town.

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/m...-mainline-flight-to.html?ana=yfcpc
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:02 am

I don't think TVC has ever seen an MD-88 before. One of the 3 TVC-MSP flights this summer in on the MD-88, in addition to mainline returning (like they usually do during the summer season) to some TVC-DTW flights.
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:43 am

Quoting mayor (Reply 16):
we had 757s to YEG and YYC.....YVR was a 727, I believe.
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 26):
In October 1991 DL had 3 daily 757s and one 727 from YYC to SLC, plus a 727 nonstop to LAX and another to DEN.

YEG only had one daily 727 to SLC.

YVR had 3 daily 727s to LAX, 1 727 to PDX and 1 737 to SFO.

...and if DL were to be successful in aquiring AS down the stretch, you can assume SLC will lose all trans-border service as it will be routed through SEA or MSP. The NW merger cost it YEG and YYZ.
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Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:45 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 26):

YEG only had one daily 727 to SLC.

And I believe it went on to LAX........I know the one flight we had to YEG, originated in LAX.........I remember at one time it was DL 1558.........burned up at the gate, once.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 26):
YVR had 3 daily 727s to LAX, 1 727 to PDX and 1 737 to SFO.

At one time it was SLC-GEG-YVR but we lost that route......when I was working the Canadian flights in cargo in SLC in about '96, I know we had one flight in each direction to YVR.
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:04 am

AVL could use mainline service again! A D95 a couple of times a day would be great to see instead of all the RJ's
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:46 am

This will be the first DL mainline service for several of these markets since 1995, when ASA initially replaced DL MD-88s with the much-maligned (from a maintenance perspective) BAe-146.
 
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Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:38 pm

Quoting AVLAirlineFreq (Reply 43):
BAe-146.

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Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:36 pm

Quoting rduddji (Reply 38):
Here you go... Good news for me, because I spend a lot of time in CHA. Love that town.

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/m...-mainline-flight-to.html?ana=yfcpc

Thanks for the info! And whoa, D95 service...  
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:49 am

Quoting bmacleod (Reply 13):
Wikipedia shows YYC Calgary as having seasonal mainline from MSP, and regular year-round service using OH. If DL sees an increase in demand then they will adjust accordingly. But DL seems slow to change with Canada.

I guess the thing here is that NW used to run mainline to YYC, YWG, YEG, YXE, and YQR, the latter even saw some 753 service during the hunting season.
 
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:47 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 36):
Those CHA flyers are loyal loyal to DL...

Extremely...amid high fuel prices, the likes of CHA, AVL, CAE, VPS, etc has maintained very high frequency RJ service to Atlanta. Looking at tomorrow's schedule, CHA is 9x CR2, 1x CR9, 1x CR7. I've personally never seen a large RJ scheduled into CHA. I've seen plenty of equipment swaps into CR7s/9s but never scheduled.
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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:52 am

Quoting PI734 (Reply 42):
AVL could use mainline service again! A D95 a couple of times a day would be great to see instead of all the RJ's

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RE: New Delta Mainline Cities

Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:09 am

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 46):
I guess the thing here is that NW used to run mainline to YYC, YWG, YEG, YXE, and YQR, the latter even saw some 753 service during the hunting season.

As did DL.......SLC-YYC/YEG/YVR and I believe DEN-YYC........also ATL-YYZ, IIRC........ALL mainline
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