|Quoting bmibaby737 (Reply 3):|
I believe C-FNVV 404 Airbus A320-211 has been wfu, it last flew on 02 February 2012?
C-FNVV and fin 404 (which is what I assume you meant) are two different aircraft. Fin 404 is registration C-FPWD, operated by Air Canada Jetz in all business and last flew YYT
at 7:27 this morning. C-FNVV has fin 416 and flew YYZ
at 6:46 this morning. So both are operating according to flightaware.
|Quoting cx828 (Thread starter):|
Almost all the A320 and 767 are more than 20 years old, did Air Canada plan to retire them
I would really hate to see the A320's go. They're a great workhorse for Air Canada and operate on all sorts of routes. AC
keep them well maintained maintenance wise as well as the cabins as well, wouldn't be able to tell they're over20! Also from a pax perspective, they're incredibly comfortable. They're noticeably larger and more spacious than a 737. Additionally, project XM
was only completed 5-6 years ago if I'm not mistaken. It would seem like a waste to order new aircraft now after all the money invested. And why would they bother if they do their job well?
I don't see Air Canada ordering the NEO or MAX but perhaps they can wait out these versions and be in early on the next new model narrow-body planes from Airbus or Boeing. I would think that AC
could afford to wait until the new narrow body's from A or B inevitably come out. Perhaps being a launch customer or an early customer could be an option? It would give them more of a fuel efficiency cut than the NEO or MAX. And if Air Canada continue to operate their narrow-body's to over 20 years, a new design would allow them the highest level of fuel efficiency for the longest time. Instead of the NEO or MAX which will most likely be beaten by the newer narrow-body designs.
As for AC
's E-Jets, they seem to be doing a fantastic job for what they we're designed to do. They are an incredibly flexible aircraft, operating trans-continental such as YYJ
or can do short hops from Vancouver-Calgary. As a Canadian I would love to see the C-Series a part of Air Canada's fleet to have some Canadian in their aircraft
However capacity wise, it would be a step down. The CS300 which is the largest variant in a 2-class cabin can only tie the A319's capacity. If they didn't have the E-Jets I think the C-Series would be a fantastic option however as we all know, they are performing well and I don't see a place for the C-Series.
|Quoting longhauler (Reply 2):|
The present plan is to transfer some of the B767s to the LCC, and replace the rest with B787s due to arrive whenever. There is a slight increase in mainline capacity with this present plan.
The A330s are staying until replaced with larger versions of the B787.
It's great that the A330's will stay along a little while longer! They're a beautiful plain I believe especially in Air Canada's livery. Yes the 787 is nicer and better in essentially every aspect however they're great to see at the airport.
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One thing I'm not to keen on is that the 787's will replace the 767's and A330's essentially 1 for 1. With 37 on order and 38 767's and 330's currently in the fleet. I read on another longhauler post that no aircraft will be retired until after 15 are delivered so perhaps some new routes will open up then, but other than that it appears no major route changes in the works with no available aircraft to do so with.
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