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AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:08 pm

As per 24JUN12 GDS timetable and inventory display, American Airlines is to operate Boeing 777-300ER service on Los Angeles – London Heathrow route, starting 01JUN13. The 777-300ER will replace -200ER currently in operation.

AA136 LAX1950 – 1415+1LHR 77W D
AA137 LHR1105 – 1420LAX 77W D

As the 777-300's arrive this will free up some of the 777-200's. Hopefully we will see some new destinations annnounced soon.

[Edited 2012-06-25 08:36:45]
 
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:25 pm

2 of the JFK flights will be operated with the 777-300, as well.
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:32 pm

Quoting miaami (Thread starter):

I think some people here would disagree with this being an upgrade, with the new 3-4-3 seat being used on the 77Ws vs the 2-5-2 on the 200ERs. Honestly I dont see anything bad with it but, ive never experienced a 3-4-3 config yet. O well good to see it being used on more routes.
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:35 pm

Good to see a United States based carrier getting its hands on some 'big' new long-haul equipment !

Thumbs up from me.
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:47 pm

If you have been in the middle of the 5 seats, you will see this as an upgrade
 
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:50 pm

Next summer the 77W schedule is as follows:

AA 50 DFWLHR 445P 750A+ 77W
AA 136 LAXLHR 750P 215P+ 77W
AA 100 JFKLHR 610P 620A+ 77W
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:52 pm

Great choice. My partner flies this route quite often and the premium cabins are always oversubscribed.

(Now, I know where I am going next summer.)
 
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:55 pm

This should help to lower the per seat costs and it seems like a route they can sell the extra seats
 
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:16 pm

For reference the term is "upgauge" when it comes to capacity.

Upgrade is what is done to a passenger, or flight frequency.
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:19 pm

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 2):
I think some people here would disagree with this being an upgrade, with the new 3-4-3 seat being used on the 77Ws vs the 2-5-2 on the 200ERs.

It is certainly an upgrade in the premium cabins. The full flat business product is likely to be well received. With AA going up against 4 other airlines on LAX-LHR who all have flat products in business, I’d assume it is a desperately needed upgrade. As for economy, it depends on the airline as to who has the best product. If you don’t want 3-4-3 on a 777, take UA.
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:23 pm

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 5):
Next summer the 77W schedule is as follows:

AA 50 DFWLHR 445P 750A+ 77W
AA 136 LAXLHR 750P 215P+ 77W
AA 100 JFKLHR 610P 620A+ 77W
AA 138 JFKLHR 725P 740A+ 77W

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Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:32 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 9):

It is certainly an upgrade in the premium cabins. The full flat business product is likely to be well received. With AA going up against 4 other airlines on LAX-LHR who all have flat products in business, I’d assume it is a desperately needed upgrade. As for economy, it depends on the airline as to who has the best product. If you don’t want 3-4-3 on a 777, take UA.

Well im just saying what others have said regards to the 3-4-3 configuration. And like I said in my previous post I dont see why and dont think it would be that bad, even though ive never flown one before, I never said I didnt want to fly one, not sure where you got that from.
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:10 pm

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 2):
I think some people here would disagree with this being an upgrade, with the new 3-4-3 seat being used on the 77Ws vs the 2-5-2 on the 200ERs. Honestly I dont see anything bad with it but, ive never experienced a 3-4-3 config yet. O well good to see it being used on more routes.

It's worth pointing out that the 772s are going 3-4-3 as well, although it will probably take some time for them to all be converted.
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:48 pm

Quoting miaami (Thread starter):
AA136 LAX1950 – 1415+1LHR 77W D
AA137 LHR1105 – 1420LAX 77W D

Wait, am I reading this correctly? AA136 arrives at 14:15 then AA137 departs at 11:05 the next day? Using different equipment presumably? I can't believe AA would leave a 77W sitting at LHR for nearly 21 hours.
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:51 pm

Quoting scbriml (Reply 13):
Wait, am I reading this correctly? AA136 arrives at 14:15 then AA137 departs at 11:05 the next day? Using different equipment presumably? I can't believe AA would leave a 77W sitting at LHR for nearly 21 hours.

I doubt they would have it sitting at LHR for that long. It would probably do the return to JFK after.
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:53 pm

Quoting 777STL (Reply 12):
It's worth pointing out that the 772s are going 3-4-3 as well, although it will probably take some time for them to all be converted.

Yeah, from now on I'll be looking for 767 flights when I fly AA internationally in coach. The 777 used to be a treat; now I think it will be miserable in coach.
 
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:00 pm

Quoting scbriml (Reply 13):
Wait, am I reading this correctly? AA136 arrives at 14:15 then AA137 departs at 11:05 the next day? Using different equipment presumably? I can't believe AA would leave a 77W sitting at LHR for nearly 21 hours.

An inbound from JFK or DFW will operate the outbound to LAX. The inbound from LAX will operate out to JFK most likely.
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:04 pm

The new JCL product looks good, though if travelling to/from LAX in YCL I'd be taking a BA flight for sure, 3-4-3 down back is just too right for my particular taste.
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:52 pm

I'm shocked that ORD has not been announced yet! I thought the ORD-LHR route was huge for AA. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come for AA at ORD.
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:53 pm

A few years back, AA flew LAX-LHR, 2x per day. This will help makeup for that lost capacity.
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:06 pm

Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 18):
I'm shocked that ORD has not been announced yet! I thought the ORD-LHR route was huge for AA. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come for AA at ORD.

Why would it be? They havent put the 77W at MIA either and there is no doubt whatsoever that MIA is huge for AA.
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:46 pm

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 2):
I think some people here would disagree with this being an upgrade, with the new 3-4-3 seat being used on the 77Ws vs the 2-5-2 on the 200ERs. Honestly I dont see anything bad with it but, ive never experienced a 3-4-3 config yet. O well good to see it being used on more routes.


People have issue with the 10 abreast because the space is a lot tighter, especially when you take into consideration, the US has a very large population who are morbidly obese compared to the rest of the world.
 
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:47 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 9):

It is certainly an upgrade in the premium cabins. The full flat business product is likely to be well received. With AA going up against 4 other airlines on LAX-LHR who all have flat products in business, I’d assume it is a desperately needed upgrade. As for economy, it depends on the airline as to who has the best product. If you don’t want 3-4-3 on a 777, take UA.

I feel NZ has the best product across the board in the LAX-LHR-LAX market (And, yes, I know they don't have a P cabin.). They really do a nice job with their catering as well compared to the rest, in particular, their Star partner, UA, which has some of the nastiest, cheapest food across the board. Even AA does a better job in catering.
 
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:05 pm

Quoting laca773 (Reply 21):
People have issue with the 10 abreast because the space is a lot tighter, especially when you take into consideration, the US has a very large population who are morbidly obese compared to the rest of the world.

Exactly and im aware of this, which is why I said some wouldnt think of it as much of an upgrade. I think the correct term would be upgauge but still an upgrade in my opinion. As for my opinion on the configuration, like ive said before ive never flown on a 3-4-3 on a 777, ive only flown on the 2-5-2 (AA) and the 3-3-3 (BA). Also im not a very large person so my opinion of it might differ to others.
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:54 pm

If you can only fly in Y, the "upgrade" is a sarcasm. Give me the middle of the 5 seats any day over the 3-4-3 seating, in fact, I'll choose 767, 757, or 737 with multi-stops. I don't think most people realize how cramped this seating is (especially first time a US carrier is trying it). Especially among JFK-LHR sector where BA will be flying with A380 and 777 with 3-3-3 seating.
 
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:57 pm

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 23):
Quoting laca773 (Reply 21):
People have issue with the 10 abreast because the space is a lot tighter, especially when you take into consideration, the US has a very large population who are morbidly obese compared to the rest of the world.

Exactly and im aware of this, which is why I said some wouldnt think of it as much of an upgrade. I think the correct term would be upgauge but still an upgrade in my opinion. As for my opinion on the configuration, like ive said before ive never flown on a 3-4-3 on a 777, ive only flown on the 2-5-2 (AA) and the 3-3-3 (BA). Also im not a very large person so my opinion of it might differ to others.

I think its a bad idea even if your not a large person. I took a Frontier flight and sat next to a large person. She had the arm bar up on both sides. I was wedged into the corner and another guy was wedged outside the aisle. I couldn't even get to my arm bar to recline my seat. I couldn't image dealing with this on an international flight.
 
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:14 pm

Quoting flyguy1 (Reply 19):
A few years back, AA flew LAX-LHR, 2x per day. This will help makeup for that lost capacity.

What was the schedule/ flight number for that second flight?
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Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:36 pm

For folks who don't like 3-4-3 seating in AA go with the competition. Air New Zealand, British and Virgin all have good service (Air NZ great service). Air New Zealand also has the sky couch and Premium Econ that's pretty nice. Keep in mind Air New Zealand had 3-4-3 in Econ on their 773ER.

The airlines have wised up to the notion that unless you pay for it, they will only give you the absolute minimum level of space/service in Economy. You are paying for perhaps 2 square feet of space plus access to the toilet, that's it. It's why they feel perfectly justified in cramming folks like sardines in the back because they offer at least two and sometimes three other "classes" of service. All you have to do is pay for said service.

Those of us on A-Net are often savvy enough to do our homework and figure out the best airlines/routes/schedule to make the trip as comfortable as possible.

For those willing to pay $5,000 r/t for J class and $20,000 or more for F on the new 773ER on AA, it will likely be great service.
 
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Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:40 am

Quoting sonomaflyer (Reply 27):
The airlines have wised up to the notion that unless you pay for it, they will only give you the absolute minimum level of space/service in Economy.

true- I've flown the dreaded 3-4-3 configuration on many a 777, including on very long-haul flights and find that what makes the difference here is the legroom. 3-4-3 with a 31 inch seat pitch would be hell on earth, but on Emirates, which I think has about 33 inches (please correct me) it is bearable.

We should petition our congress to mandate minimal legroom based on sector length.... e.g, for flights less than 5 hours, anything goes, for flights 5-10 hrs, say 32 inches minimum, and on ULH flights, 33" minimum... Although admittedly that could make operations/scheduling cumbersome. But if we don't put a lid on the sardines can, they'll soon be making us flying standing up!
 
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Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:57 am

Quoting sonomaflyer (Reply 27):
For folks who don't like 3-4-3 seating in AA go with the competition. Air New Zealand, British and Virgin all have good service (Air NZ great service). Air New Zealand also has the sky couch and Premium Econ that's pretty nice. Keep in mind Air New Zealand had 3-4-3 in Econ on their 773ER.

NZ have nine abreast on the B777-200ER yet cram them in on the -300ER ten across. Not quite the treat in economy is used to be, especially on such a long flight. As for choosing the competition over American, well BA have eight flights daily JFK-LHR, AA have three, all on the smaller B772. There may be some form of clue there....
 
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Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:03 am

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 29):
As for choosing the competition over American, well BA have eight flights daily JFK-LHR, AA have three, all on the smaller B772. There may be some form of clue there....

While I get the gist of your statement, AA and BA have a joint venture so AA doesn't have to go all out on frequencies etc on that route. Having flown AA and BA, I'd go BA  
 
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:06 am

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 9):
With AA going up against 4 other airlines on LAX-LHR who all have flat products in business, I’d assume it is a desperately needed upgrade.

AA is not going up against BA. AA & BA have a JV and the profits are shared. It really does not matter who operates the route.

Quoting scbriml (Reply 13):
Wait, am I reading this correctly? AA136 arrives at 14:15 then AA137 departs at 11:05 the next day? Using different equipment presumably? I can't believe AA would leave a 77W sitting at LHR for nearly 21 hours.

Th eplane will likely be rotated as LAX-LHR-JFK/DFW-LHR-LAX

Quoting flyguy1 (Reply 19):
A few years back, AA flew LAX-LHR, 2x per day. This will help makeup for that lost capacity.

They do not have to make up for lost capacity from years ago because they now have the JV with BA and BA flies 2x daily and sometimes 3x daily to LAX
 
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:14 am

Congrats to AA on the new metal. However at 10 abreast I will not be going anywhere near it. Not if I'm flying economy anyway. For domestic flights I put up with US carriers because I have no choice, but when flying internationally I usually avoid them like the plague. I will however be flying TPE - NRT on United this summer. Still don't know how that happened.
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Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:18 am

Quoting vincewy (Reply 24):

I agree. But I love AA. I guess for my OW miles I will start flying BA. 2-5-2 is tight but tolerable. I am 6'4" and 295lbs. I really don't have an issue flying coach. I flew DAL-LGW on an AA 763 as well as RDU-PAR on a 763. My son and I do it squeezed into FL all the time going to ORL--I feel like a can of sardines. I also just flew DCASFO on UA 73G in coach, that was miserable. My face was almost hitting the tv screen infront of me.

I have heard that BA, AF/KL were going to be doing to 3-4-3 as well. You can bet some carriers like NZ, SQ, VS, EI, DL, US are also going to be watching these reactions. The ad thing is that if all of the carriers do it, who would you complain to? Nobody will listen. I couldn't imagine flying 3-4-3 from SFO-DXB in 3-4-3.

I guess some are ok with it. When I used to work for Suntrips back in the very late 80's and early 90's the TZ L1011's we used were 2-5-3.

What is the total difference in the measurements from what they are now with 9 across? isn't the 77W just a bit wider than the 772?

UA and DL will really retain a ton of business for people that specifically do not want the 3-4-3
 
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Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:30 am

Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 31):
It really does not matter who operates the route.

It most certainly does if you are flying down the back with the option of choosing nine or ten abreast. Indeed the BA product in all cabins is, in my view, superior. Revenue sharing is fine but let's not pretend this is a seamless experience.
 
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Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:42 am

Quoting olddominion727 (Reply 33):
BA, AF/KL were going to be doing to 3-4-3 as well. You can bet some carriers like NZ, SQ, VS, EI, DL

AK/KL and NZ already did, and I thought BA tried and backed out.

SQ's Scoot is also using 3-4-3, VS and EI do not have 777.

Let's sum up who are putting 3-4-3 on 777s (feel free to add if I miss any) - AF, KL, CZ, NH (domestic), OQ, NZ, EK, EY, JJ, DT, and soon AA.
 
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:46 am

Quoting vincewy (Reply 35):

I know VS, US, & EI don't fly 777's for now, but never say never!
 
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:13 am

I've informed AA, in writing even, that their decision to choose 3-4-3 will force me to investigate other options. The response was an expected "we don't care". Did I expect something different? No. AA has been informed that this decision will directly result in a loss of revenue from me. Platinum for years. Paying out of my own pocket. Yes, people like me exist.
 
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:27 am

Does anyone know which return flights from LHR to JFK be on the 77W?
 
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:28 am

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 29):
NZ have nine abreast on the B777-200ER yet cram them in on the -300ER ten across. Not quite the treat in economy is used to be, especially on such a long flight. As for choosing the competition over American, well BA have eight flights daily JFK-LHR, AA have three, all on the smaller B772. There may be some form of clue there....

Correction - AA has 5 flights on JFK-LHR, along with BA's 7. And BA is not competition since it's ATI/JV. To be honest, I don't care for their 2x5x2 configuration. I took EK's 3x4x3 and didn't mind it at all, and I'm 6'2.

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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:31 am

Either USAIR will change when they merge with AA or they will figure out they are making $$$ and in return DL/UA will start 10 across as well.
 
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:33 am

Quoting LHRXXXLHR (Reply 37):

I've informed AA, in writing even, that their decision to choose 3-4-3 will force me to investigate other options. The response was an expected "we don't care". Did I expect something different? No. AA has been informed that this decision will directly result in a loss of revenue from me. Platinum for years. Paying out of my own pocket. Yes, people like me exist.

Do what feels right, but honestly, AA cares more about the tens of thousands of passengers in the cabin today, right this minute. If they can fit 10-20% more people in, with very minimal impact to comfort thanks to engineering advances, they will do that. They won't lose passengers; they will gain passengers. Perhaps you have heard how expensive tickets are this summer... they will fill these 777s with high, high yields....
 
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:42 am

Quoting Flighty (Reply 41):
with very minimal impact to comfort thanks to engineering advances, they will do that.

That is a gross assumption! I'll grant you it is a very personal reaction, but I would describe 3-4-3 on a B777 as a MAJOR reduction in comfort compared to a 3-4-3 on a B747 or 3-3-3 on a B777, let alone 2-4-2 on A330s. People will vote with their wallets, hopefully against 3-4-3 on aircraft not designed for it.

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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:20 am

Quoting AA767400 (Reply 39):
I took EK's 3x4x3 and didn't mind it at all, and I'm 6'2.

EK gives you 34-inch seat pitch so if you're as skinny as Mahatmad Gandhi, sure, it's very comfortable. Try 31-inch pitch on AF and you'll have different opinion. My best defense now, if flying EK or AF, is taking all Airbus flights, unfortunately EK is slowly phasing out A330s and A340s with more 77Ws on the way.

Although a bit OT, my biggest gripe with a lot of Y passengers, is many have total disregard of other fellow passengers by taking up space of not only the armrests, but also toward seats of other passengers, this situation will be a lot more common with 3-4-3 seating. I'm surprised there aren't many more air rage incidents out there between passengers.
 
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:11 am

Quoting olddominion727 (Reply 33):
I am 6'4" and 295lbs.

and.....

Quoting olddominion727 (Reply 33):
I really don't have an issue flying coach.

Have no business being in the same paragraph. Lol

Hats off to you though !
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:36 am

If BA are flying most of the metal across the pond, with greater levels of comfort, isn't this a rather unequal partnership?

Having flown with AF 3-4-3 last year it was noticeably more cramped, and the aisles noticeably narrower. I can't imagine the same cabin layout with 'fat Americans' in it... when will the complaints and laysuits start after someone is squashed between 2 fat people...

Or will someone be too fat to get down the aisle 

Incidentally, if you google American Airlines 777-300ER 3-4-3 you get a lot of hits, so this isn't something that can quietly be introduced without being noticed...

[Edited 2012-06-26 01:44:38]
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:51 am

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 45):
If BA are flying most of the metal across the pond, with greater levels of comfort, isn't this a rather unequal partnership?

Well let's face it the partnership across the Atlantic is more about added convenience for the 'business' class passenger in terms of the joint venture/frequencies etc

I wouldn't be bothered if I ended up in AA business to JFK instead of BA or vice versa.

I don't care which carrier has the better entertainment system or which one massages my feet for longer.....space, space, space is all that matters to me.

Steerage will get what they're given and like it or see if it's any better on another carrier...which it ain't.

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 45):
. I can't imagine the same cabin layout with 'fat Americans' in it...

'Fat' is yesterday....'super-obese'.... is tomorrow and it isn't just a problem for the USA.

Our friends at Rolls Royce etc better start designing some more powerful engines or those planes won't be going anywhere. (let alone up in the air)

Enter Antonov.....


  
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:51 am

It's always better late than never so great for AA to capture premium traffic...

Personally, I would rather fly via ICN on OZ or KE to LHR than to sit in AA and shove stale pasta down my throat.

In other news, I really hope American Airlines will move junior flight attendants and replace the senior ones that are so bitter and jaded. I had a really bad experience LAX-DFW, so this is my opinion and it's unfortunate because I remember the good old days of my first time flying with AA from IAD-LAX on DC10 Transcontinental Flagship Service.

It's hard to praise something that was once fabulous.

Oh well.

Disclosure: I have NEVER supported low cost carriers. I have always paid more to fly our lovely legacy airlines here in the USA. I prefer to pay for experience over price.

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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:01 am

Quoting AirAfreak (Reply 47):
Long live PAN AM

I would trade DL, UA, US and AA for a well run PAN AM as the sole American 'national carrier' anyday.

The LCC's and foreign carriers would have been more than enough to keep them honest.

Alas....that ship has sailed. (For the last time and been scrapped to boot)
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RE: AA To Upgrade LAX-LHR To 777-300 Jun 2013

Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:26 pm

Quoting AA767400 (Reply 39):
Correction - AA has 5 flights on JFK-LHR, along with BA's 7. And BA is not competition since it's ATI/JV. To be honest, I don't care for their 2x5x2 configuration. I took EK's 3x4x3 and didn't mind it at all, and I'm 6'2.

Ooops, we have the addition of the new AA138 this summer and I missed the recent return of AA100, indeed BA are up to EIGHT flights a day giving a total BA/AA presence on LHR-JFK of 13 flights daily, on nothing smaller than a B772. I'm not suggesting BA and AA are in competition, I am just saying if I Joe Public books on ba.com, if they are not careful, their BA flight will be an AA one, which is a problem if the service is not seamless.

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