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Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:07 am

Launching November 8th per the gentleman's article above.

AS807 BLI1100 – 1520OGG 73H x146
AS808 OGG1500 – 2255BLI 73H x357

Interesting!

Also this fall AS begins:

ANC-KOA
PDX-LIH
2nd daily PDX-OGG



Allegiant also begins BLI-HNL on November 15,2012 and BLI-OGG on November 14, 2012

[Edited 2012-06-26 19:34:08]

[Edited 2012-06-27 09:04:31 by SA7700]
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:01 am

Was hoping to see this...but have not seen a press release as yet from AS.
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:05 am

Interesting that AS would choose to do this route now instead of a pre-emptive strike like their BLI-HNL.
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:20 am

So do they feel

(A) threatened by G4, or

(B) see lucrative yields?
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:36 am

I'm not getting in on this discussion until there is a formal announcement of the route... been there, done that.

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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:34 am

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 2):
Interesting that AS would choose to do this route now instead of a pre-emptive strike like their BLI-HNL.

Well AS is planning to start 6 days earlier than G4, and is also offering more flights per week

Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 3):
So do they feel

(A) threatened by G4, or

(B) see lucrative yields?

I think AS was probably interested in the route anyway, but G4's announcement has them jumping in first, by 6 days. I do not think AS is threatened by G4, I think AS being the 800 pound gorilla here in the NW, is just trying to protect their turf. Travellers in British Columbia, are used to AS to Hawaii flying from BLI, OGG is a natural choice, G4 will have an uphill battle. I think AS's has a good market from BLI, but there may not be enough to go around if other carriers start flying the same routes, AS can afford to get into a pissing match with the likes of G4, knowing if G4 doesn't see returns on the BLI-Hawaii flights, that G4 will pull them, pretty quick. Plus AS as of now looks to be only seasonal, I think G4 is year round.

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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:47 am

Quoting sldispatcher (Reply 3):
(B) see lucrative yields?

Have you seen the prices for YVR-OGG flights? I've been actively looking for something in Nov, and it's gonna hurt.

A BLI-OGG (or HNL) flight is going to draw hugely from the Vancouver market - without the expenses and hassles of a transborder (Soft International) flight, and without the costs of YVR. There may well be flights that have only 6 US passports on board - all belonging to the crew! (Wait a second - it's a domestic flight so the crew might not even carry their passports!).
With the differnces in costs, I imagine they can charge $100 less than the same flight out of YVR and still yield more - and the plane will be full of Canadians. For a family of 4, the savings would more than justify the drive, even with a wait at the border.
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:39 pm

Quoting BE77 (Reply 6):
Have you seen the prices for YVR-OGG flights? I've been actively looking for something in Nov, and it's gonna hurt.

Fares out of SEA to Hawaii are outrageous now as well. I was looking at next January to HNL or OGG and was shocked how high they are! Will have to go take a look at YVR...can't imagine they're even higher than what I saw!

Quoting BE77 (Reply 6):
(Wait a second - it's a domestic flight so the crew might not even carry their passports!).

We're required to always carry our passport no matter the destination. You never know when you might have to divert due to unforeseen circumstances.
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:47 pm

Quoting BE77 (Reply 6):
A BLI-OGG (or HNL) flight is going to draw hugely from the Vancouver market - without the expenses and hassles of a transborder (Soft International) flight

Last year, I flew LAS-BLI-SEA on AS / QX; I flew via Bellingham soley to log BLI. At least half of the cars I saw at BLI had "Beautiful British Columbia" license plates.
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:03 pm

 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:49 pm

I made the call on this one months ago.   It was a good guess that AS would start this route next given that BLI-HNL was apparently doing well.

What's left for AS to connect the dots to Hawaii? SAN-KOA/LIH are left; maybe more from SMF? Still nothing from any Los Angeles basin airport, and I'm guessing it's going to stay that way.
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:14 pm

The town fathers of BLI should probably bow to the inevitable and formally rename their airport Vancouver South / Bellingham.
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:21 pm

Good to see AS finding homes for the remaining frames (IIRC 3x 739ERs as mentioned on an earlier thread) it has on order for delivery this year. By my count, AS has the following new services upcoming (plus the 2nd daily PDX-OGG mentioned by the OP - not a new route but nice nonetheless):

PDX-DCA (starts 8/28)
SEA-SAT (starts 9/17)
SAN-MCO (starts 10/11)
PDX-LIH (starts 11/5, 4x weekly, seasonal)
BLI-OGG (starts 11/8, 4x weekly, seasonal)
ANC-KOA (starts 11/10, 1x weekly, seasonal)

That might be all for this year given the delivery schedule, but there are 9x 739ERs coming onboard in 2013 while 3x 734s are scheduled to leave. 2013 should be a good year for new routes (like PIT...  ).

http://www.alaskaair.com/content/abo...et.aspx#aircraft-delivery-schedule
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:52 pm

The information was initially published by Airline Route. Why has the reference been deleted?
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:15 pm

Quoting threeifbyair (Reply 12):
Good to see AS finding homes for the remaining frames (IIRC 3x 739ERs as mentioned on an earlier thread) it has on order for delivery this year. By my count, AS has the following new services upcoming (plus the 2nd daily PDX-OGG mentioned by the OP - not a new route but nice nonetheless):
PDX-DCA (starts 8/28)
SEA-SAT (starts 9/17)
SAN-MCO (starts 10/11)
PDX-LIH (starts 11/5, 4x weekly, seasonal)
BLI-OGG (starts 11/8, 4x weekly, seasonal)
ANC-KOA (starts 11/10, 1x weekly, seasonal)
That might be all for this year given the delivery schedule

With seasonal adjustments, and tweaking here and there, I don't know that all 3 of this years new a/c have been accounted for yet. For example, the SAN-MCO-SAN trip required no new a/c time; it is funded entirely by a (current) RON at SAN. Also, the extra capacity split between SAN/SMF and OGG that just started a few weeks ago, is gone on the early Nov schedule so there's some freed-up a/c time.

I think there are some additional (seasonal) flights between SEA and Hawaii also coming back, and I know there are a few Mexico routes (from SJC) that are gaining frequencies, so all things considered, it's hard to tell. AS is excellent at moving their chess pieces around constantly and getting resources where they work best for profitability.

This move (BLI-OGG) is not a surprise to many of us and, with WN probably entering the Hawaii-market next year, it could get pretty exciting.

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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:43 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 10):
Still nothing from any Los Angeles basin airport, and I'm guessing it's going to stay that way.

I have to wonder about ONT, though; the runways are long enough, it would support people who don't want to drive to LAX as well as the PSP crowd..just seems like it could be a viable market for HNL/OGG service.
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:11 am

Quoting threeifbyair (Reply 12):
PDX-DCA (starts 8/28)
SEA-SAT (starts 9/17)
SAN-MCO (starts 10/11)
PDX-LIH (starts 11/5, 4x weekly, seasonal)
BLI-OGG (starts 11/8, 4x weekly, seasonal)
ANC-KOA (starts 11/10, 1x weekly, seasonal)

Off topic, but look at those routes listed:

*Three are Hawaii routes
*Two are full transcons
*Only one is a SEA route

.....This is Alaska Airlines, right...???  

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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:20 am

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 16):
Off topic, but look at those routes listed:

*Three are Hawaii routes
*Two are full transcons
*Only one is a SEA route

.....This is Alaska Airlines, right...???

Yeah, and only one of those touches the state of Alaska and that being 1/week seasonally. Yep, that's the Alaska Airlines that we know in the likes of FLL, AUS, SAN, PVR and LIH.
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:12 am

I can see this route doing very well. With all my YVR customers, I would always suggest BLI with AS. The non-stop to HNL did well (saw many sold out flights in my GDS), I see no reason why OGG wouldn't. Maybe we will see KOA come on board at some point?

I also feel G4 caters to a more budget clientele, and I don't feel they will be a major threat to AS, however I do see them succeeding on their flight as well.
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:41 am

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 16):
.....This is Alaska Airlines, right...???

That's right, Planes', the Alaska that some of us have grown to love even more than before!  

(I guess it's now time to start talking about AS changing their name...   )

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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:56 am

Quoting SANFan (Reply 19):
(I guess it's now time to start talking about AS changing their name... )

It just better not start with a "D".
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:49 am

Quoting threeifbyair (Reply 12):
PDX-DCA (starts 8/28)
SEA-SAT (starts 9/17)
SAN-MCO (starts 10/11)
PDX-LIH (starts 11/5, 4x weekly, seasonal)
BLI-OGG (starts 11/8, 4x weekly, seasonal)
ANC-KOA (starts 11/10, 1x weekly, seasonal)

That might be all for this year given the delivery schedule



Some increase in frequency from The Bay Area: SJC-GDL and SJC-SJD with both go Daily effective December 16th.

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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:02 am

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 8):
At least half of the cars I saw at BLI had "Beautiful British Columbia" license plates.

You must've been there on a 'slow' day~ it's normally more like 75-85%!!!

Quoting Coronado (Reply 11):
The town fathers of BLI should probably bow to the inevitable and formally rename their airport Vancouver South / Bellingham.

Have you ever noted how it's listed on G4's website? Somewhere within it is listed almost as such.




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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:15 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 15):
I have to wonder about ONT, though; the runways are long enough, it would support people who don't want to drive to LAX as well as the PSP crowd..just seems like it could be a viable market for HNL/OGG service.

It has not worked before for HA, TZ and others, but maybe a daily 738 would be the perfect amount of lift for a daily ONT-HNL, Too bad SNA-Hawaii is regulated to 737-700's instead of the 800, but it is what it is. I know the 738 could do it weight restricted, but not being as profitable as a full aircraft.

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 16):
Off topic, but look at those routes listed:

*Three are Hawaii routes
*Two are full transcons
*Only one is a SEA route

.....This is Alaska Airlines, right...???

Goes to show AS is just as dedicated to PDX almost as much as SEA. I think AS will do great things from SAN in time as well, as it's already started.
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:18 pm

If the flight does well I'm sure they'll keep it year-round. They could easily do so with one of the new airframes coming next year. Advance bookings are looking good....very few days remaining at the intro $179 each way fare! Prices around Christmas are waaay high!
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:49 pm

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 21):
Some increase in frequency from The Bay Area: SJC-GDL and SJC-SJD with both go Daily effective December 16th.

I'd expect that SJC-GDL was doing well, but I'm very surprised that SJC-SJD is going daily. I didn't think that route was doing as well and I was wondering if it would survive. AS already discontinued it once several years ago.
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:44 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 20):
It just better not start with a "D".

Nah, but they could always bring back the Western name...
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:50 pm

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 26):
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 20):
It just better not start with a "D".

Nah, but they could always bring back the Western name...

I have a better idea for their long term name, Alaska Airlines.  

I would mind seeing Pacific Southwest and the smile come back though.
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:10 pm

Love all the great history attached to the Alaska name...but Pacific Airways has a nice ring to it.
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:19 pm

Quoting HiFlyerAS (Reply 28):
Love all the great history attached to the Alaska name...but Pacific Airways has a nice ring to it.

That was the name of one of the Hughes Airwest predecessors. I say let Chester the Eskimo continue to been seen in LIH, PVR, AUS, FLL, MCO, KOA, SAN and all those other distinctly 49th state locations.
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:27 am

AS, PLEASE! FAI-anywhere in Hawaii! We have had charters that operated seasonally in the past and obviously from a city/area like Fairbanks (100,000+ in the FNS Borough) where just about everybody gets out in the winter to Hawaii or Mexico we could have a FAI-KOA or OGG flight a couple times a week in the winter. During the last few years as airlines have come back to FAI and added new nonstop destinations (DL to MSP and SLC, UA and F9 to DEN) AS hasnt added squat for Fairbanks, still just SEA as the only out of state nonstop year round.

Fares this year to Hawaii are crazy, last year I paid $518 FAI-KOA in January on DL and this year the cheapest DL ticket for anytime in January is $1058. AS is around $900...oh well.
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:05 am

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 25):
but I'm very surprised that SJC-SJD is going daily.


The SJD flight will originate in SEA and feed off of PDX, BOI and RNO inbound flights as well.

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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:53 am

Quoting woodsboy (Reply 30):
AS, PLEASE! FAI-anywhere in Hawaii! We have had charters that operated seasonally in the past and obviously from a city/area like Fairbanks (100,000+ in the FNS Borough) where just about everybody gets out in the winter to Hawaii or Mexico we could have a FAI-KOA or OGG flight a couple times a week in the winter.

I am not sure that AS 737's would have the range to do FAI-Hawaii. Even if they did it would probably be pretty tight and it would be the longest flight in the route network. I think AS is fine with having ANC be the main Alaska gateway.
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:30 pm

Quoting HiFlyerAS (Reply 28):
Love all the great history attached to the Alaska name...but Pacific Airways has a nice ring to it.

I kind of like Pacific Western like the old Canadian counterpart.
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:33 am

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 27):
I have a better idea for their long term name, Alaska Airlines

Best thing I've seen written in regards to this specific topic, AS is Alaska Airlines it will stay a solo carrier with strong name recognition, even if you don't live in the NW. If you're even a semi frequent flier, chances are you've heard of Alaska at some point, even if it was reading a JD Powers awards list in a magazine. You'd also know AS has a good reputation. No need for an identity change that will most likely not do anything positive what so ever for the carrier. Long live Chester!
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:45 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 27):
I have a better idea for their long term name, Alaska Airlines.
Quoting RWA380 (Reply 34):
Best thing I've seen written in regards to this specific topic, AS is Alaska Airlines it will stay a solo carrier with strong name recognition, even if you don't live in the NW. If you're even a semi frequent flier, chances are you've heard of Alaska at some point, even if it was reading a JD Powers awards list in a magazine. You'd also know AS has a good reputation. No need for an identity change that will most likely not do anything positive what so ever for the carrier. Long live Chester!

LOL! I totally agree.
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:21 pm

Quoting HiFlyerAS (Reply 28):
Love all the great history attached to the Alaska name...but Pacific Airways has a nice ring to it.

They could rename the airline to Jet America. LOL!
 
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RE: Alaska Airlines To Launch Bellingham – Kahului

Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:03 pm

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 36):
They could rename the airline to Jet America. LOL!

All the ex-Jet America employees sure would get a kick out of that!
 
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