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Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:59 am

Will AA fly to HKG anytime soon? They have been rumouring to.

US?
 
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:35 am

If and when US moves into East Asia I highly doubt HKG will be the first market or even one of the first five, if they ever get that far.

AA...maybe at some point, but likewise I think they will fly other places first.
 
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:04 am

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 1):
AA...maybe at some point, but likewise I think they will fly other places first

Some have speculated that AA would be a good fit for A DFW-HKG flight, connecting 2 OneWorld hubs, but I think AA has a hurdle to overcome with it's pilots union for a flight of this stage length, unless that has been resolved and I missed it.
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:18 am

Flying to Hong Kong has been missing from AA's route map since they took delivery of the 777. With the bankruptcy they should be able to do away with the clause limiting stage length. Their new 77W's would be perfect a DFW to HKG route.
 
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:56 am

AA flying to HKG has been discussed at lenght. The prospects are not good for AA to land there. LAX and JFK are well covered by Cathay with 3X ot 4X daily.

There is one fly from ORD to HKG as well.

That leaves DFW, and I doubt that

US? out of PHX? I doubt that even more. Besides I don't think US's A330s can do the leg west bound
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:10 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 3):

Flying to Hong Kong has been missing from AA's route map since they took delivery of the 777. With the bankruptcy they should be able to do away with the clause limiting stage length. Their new 77W's would be perfect a DFW to HKG route.

Launching the longest route in their network with the largest plane in the fleet to a destination with zero existing presence and minimal (if any) brand recognition on a routing that's even longer than JFK-HKG at $80/oil ? ya good luck with that

never say never, but if DL couldn't get ATLICN and ATLPVG to work, then odds are against AA

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:23 pm

Unless AA landed some really huge lucrative corporate or cargo contract to do DFW-HKG I do not see it. AA is really gunshy with ULH routes.
US will not do it unless they buy an A332 now, get off their all airbus policy and buy some 787s or 777s or wait for another 5+ years until they get their A350s. They only have the A333 and it can not make the outbound trip. Even if US finally broke in Asia, I would see NRT or China before HKG.
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:28 pm

Quoting ordjoe (Reply 6):
US will not do it unless they buy an A332 now, get off their all airbus policy and buy some 787s or 777s or wait for another 5+ years until they get their A350s. They only have the A333 and it can not make the outbound trip. Even if US finally broke in Asia, I would see NRT or China before HKG.

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:41 pm

Quoting g500 (Reply 4):
There is one fly from ORD to HKG as well.

CX does 1x daily, and UA does 1x daily, so AA would be the third carrier doing Chicago to Hong Kong. They could probably fill the plane, but at what profit? I think they'd best stick to Dallas if they did ever start Hong Kong service.
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:46 pm

Quoting sw733 (Reply 8):
does 1x daily, and UA does 1x daily, so AA would be the third carrier doing Chicago to Hong Kong. They could probably fill the plane, but at what profit? I think they'd best stick to Dallas if they did ever start Hong Kong service.



Indeed. DFW-HKG would be a great 787 route. I dont see AA going for it with the 77W. Its too much plane for that route.

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 5):
never say never, but if DL couldn't get ATLICN and ATLPVG to work, then odds are against AA



Apples and oranges. DL and MU were not partners for 90% of the time the route was flown. ATL-ICN was turned over to KE and given DL and KE's joint venture and strong partnership, it was the right thing. During the time DL flew ATL-ICN, they had a big shortage of 777s. That plane would be put to better use when you get revenue from the flights KE is operating.
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:47 pm

The pilot contract will be settled and they will be able to fly the route. AA has a huge presence in DFW and could make the route work just with DFW traffic now throw in CX in HKG it will work. Once the pilots are settled you will see DFW to HKG
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:58 pm

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 9):
Apples and oranges. DL and MU were not partners for 90% of the time the route was flown. ATL-ICN was turned over to KE and given DL and KE's joint venture and strong partnership, it was the right thing. During the time DL flew ATL-ICN, they had a big shortage of 777s. That plane would be put to better use when you get revenue from the flights KE is operating.

What makes you think AA is better to operate DFW-HKG than CX ? If DL handed it over to KE, then AA should ask CX to do it too.

AA's track record with launching non-NRT AsiaPac flights is so dismal (3, to be exact) that I couldn't believe any hype their management throws out until I see it actually loaded into booking systems. Even JL decided to use their 787s to non-OW hubs of BOS and SAN instead of taking a stab at that alleged gold mine that MIA-NRT is hyped up to be.
 
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:31 pm

AA is not going anywhere.
AA has stopped competing. They stopped competing & expanding a few years back. They're not interested in truly expanding or doing ulh flights.
They much prefer sending paxs to London/Madrid/Tokyo & turning the paxs over to their partners.
With the current management all they have done is retrench & pulled back.
And with the so-called "Cornerstone" strategy, well, good luck with that.
Not until the current mngmnt is wiped out & start with new, fresh meat, (and it wont happen any time soon) don't expect anything extraordinary from AA.
 
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:36 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 2):
Some have speculated that AA would be a good fit for A DFW-HKG flight, connecting 2 OneWorld hubs, but I think AA has a hurdle to overcome with it's pilots union for a flight of this stage length, unless that has been resolved and I missed it.

A bigger hurdle would be consistently filling up the front cabins on a very large aircraft housing a very large amount of real estate dedicated for premium seating. Traffic trends between the South & HKG aren't that strong; ORD would be more logical.

Quoting ordjoe (Reply 6):

Unless AA landed some really huge lucrative corporate or cargo contract to do DFW-HKG I do not see it.

Unless the belly of the aircraft is filled with gold bars being flown from HKG to AA's corporate offices, cargo isn't going to make or break a ULH route.
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:36 pm

Quoting ordjoe (Reply 6):
US will not do it unless they buy an A332 now, get off their all airbus policy and buy some 787s or 777s or wait for another 5+ years until they get their A350s. They only have the A333 and it can not make the outbound trip. Even if US finally broke in Asia, I would see NRT or China before HKG.
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:08 pm

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 11):
What makes you think AA is better to operate DFW-HKG than CX ?

I dont know who would be better launching it. If it becomes a reality, I think either can make it work if its a 787 or similarly sized plane.

Quoting CompensateMe (Reply 13):
A bigger hurdle would be consistently filling up the front cabins on a very large aircraft housing a very large amount of real estate dedicated for premium seating. Traffic trends between the South & HKG aren't that strong


Again, on a 787 thats not going to be a problem at all. A 77W would be much harder. But given that we have two major Oneworld hubs on each end, its not far fetched that it would work on a right sized plane.
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:18 pm

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 15):
I dont know who would be better launching it. If it becomes a reality, I think either can make it work if its a 787 or similarly sized plane.

787-8 is a bit short on range - 787-9 may be better. A350-900 from CX is promising but no guarantee Airbus would meet their performance goals.
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:16 pm

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 5):
never say never, but if DL couldn't get ATLICN and ATLPVG to work, then odds are against AA

Hong Kong is huge Cathay hub which would feed AA very nicely, Tokyo is too from Singapore & Bangkok. Surely CX can't begrudge AA for wanting a slice of HKG after AA has supported Cathay for 20 years or more in the USA. Since we all know CX has lots of the USA covered DFW would be the obvious place for its gateway to HKG. The history of JAL flights to DFW might turn CX off to there. Qantas is a unique case since Australia is a one of a kind destination, its DFW to Aussie flight is breaking all kinds of records. Hoping it happens...
 
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:45 pm

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 11):
What makes you think AA is better to operate DFW-HKG than CX ? If DL handed it over to KE, then AA should ask CX to do it too.

Because Delta and Korean have Anti--Trust Immunity. AA and CX do not. That makes a lot of the difference.

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 11):
Even JL decided to use their 787s to non-OW hubs of BOS and SAN instead of taking a stab at that alleged gold mine that MIA-NRT is hyped up to be.

JAL has received their 787s before AA. And, unlike CX, JL has anti-trust immunity with AA. Therefore, when it all comes down to need and availability, JL went for the low-hanging fruit that the 787 was suited for.

And, yes, without beating around the bush here, JAL is in a stronger fiscal position than AA at the moment to take the risk with a long-thin route. Are you happy? Is that what you wanted to hear? Because you can dismount from your high horse now - we are all universally aware that AA's network is lagging in certain regions of the world aside from Latin America, as you continue to pound this into our heads. I'd like to add that meanwhile UA and DL are simultaneously cutting back on TPAC and TATL capacity later on this year and neither of them are touting record-breaking unit revenue performances in Asia, China, Europe, wherever.
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:10 pm

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 18):
JAL has received their 787s before AA. And, unlike CX, JL has anti-trust immunity with AA. Therefore, when it all comes down to need and availability, JL went for the low-hanging fruit that the 787 was suited for.

People keep shouting "hub-to-hub" from the top of their lungs and yet no one still dare to touch MIA-NRT. If BOS and SAN is "low-hanging fruit" then what is MIA-NRT ? An even lower hanging fruit but apparently suitable with 77W ?

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 18):
And, yes, without beating around the bush here, JAL is in a stronger fiscal position than AA at the moment to take the risk with a long-thin route. Are you happy? Is that what you wanted to hear? Because you can dismount from your high horse now - we are all universally aware that AA's network is lagging in certain regions of the world aside from Latin America, as you continue to pound this into our heads. I'd like to add that meanwhile UA and DL are simultaneously cutting back on TPAC and TATL capacity later on this year and neither of them are touting record-breaking unit revenue performances in Asia, China, Europe, wherever.

Are you here to harass and act like a 9 year old bully from middle school trying to blindly defend your employer or you're here to make a point ??

CERTAIN regions ??? AA is lacking in ALL regions of the world outside the Americas.
 
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:25 pm

I have a feeling once the Visa for Brazil is worked with US Govt NRT.MIA will be launched...
 
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:30 pm

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 7):

Apparently living under a rock lol !
 
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:04 pm

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 19):
People keep shouting "hub-to-hub" from the top of their lungs and yet no one still dare to touch MIA-NRT. If BOS and SAN is "low-hanging fruit" then what is MIA-NRT ? An even lower hanging fruit but apparently suitable with 77W ?

Decisions are rolled out based on data and modeling that only the regional planning team of an airline has access to. I am sure there were compelling, logical reasons why BOS/SAN-NRT were introduced before MIA.

I'll put more stock into their intelligence any day over yours, thank you very much.

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 19):
CERTAIN regions ??? AA is lacking in ALL regions of the world outside the Americas.

Show me proof that the airlines in said regions are "winning" in terms other than market share presence, aka demonstrating profitability? I'd really like to know given data points such as DL suspending DTWHKG, JFKPRG, JFKATH, ATLMXP, ATLBCN, ATLACC, ATLRIA, ATLPVG, MEMAMS, etc and UA pulling out of IADACC, IAHAKL, EWRCPH, etc.

I'm pretty sure that covers every single "region" outside of the Americas where AA is "lacking."

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 19):
Are you here to harass and act like a 9 year old bully from middle school trying to blindly defend your employer or you're here to make a point ??

Definition of kettle calling the pot black.

I have no allegiance to AA whatsoever and if you think that I am employed by them, dream on. I even candidly admitted that AA is in too weak of a financial position to embrace higher-risk ventures in the long-haul realm. But rather than do so in defense of AA, I am posting here to provide some objective, factual insight which wildly contrasts your habitual pattern of spewing information you know next to nothing about. It's time you realize there is a difference.

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:27 pm

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Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 18):
And, yes, without beating around the bush here, JAL is in a stronger fiscal position than AA at the moment to take the risk with a long-thin route. Are you happy? Is that what you wanted to hear? Because you can dismount from your high horse now - we are all universally aware that AA's network is lagging in certain regions of the world aside from Latin America, as you continue to pound this into our heads. I'd like to add that meanwhile UA and DL are simultaneously cutting back on TPAC and TATL capacity later on this year and neither of them are touting record-breaking unit revenue performances in Asia, China, Europe, wherever.

Pretty accurate, and well said.

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 19):
Are you here to harass and act like a 9 year old bully from middle school trying to blindly defend your employer or you're here to make a point ??
CERTAIN regions ??? AA is lacking in ALL regions of the world outside the Americas.

Tsk. What's the matter with you?? You don't like it when someone bluntly calls you out, do you, my friend Mogando. I've said this before on here and will do so again. It can be accurately stated, I think, that your inaccurate bleating of anti-AA information is frequently wrong; or...shall I be charitable?.....consistently full of half truths. Anyone can be a hater. That's your right. And, AA has issues, I'll be the first one to acknowledge that too. I know of no company that doesn't, and some are much better at keeping their dirty laundries in-house.

these silly tirades and anti-AA crusading is tiresome. We know how you feel; but seriously, get over yourself.
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:09 am

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 22):
Definition of kettle calling the pot black.
Quoting slvrblt (Reply 23):


these silly tirades and anti-AA crusading is tiresome. We know how you feel; but seriously, get over yourself.

Very well said. It certainly gets old - doesn't it? What did American ever do to him, anyways - lose his dog or something?

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 18):


Because Delta and Korean have Anti--Trust Immunity. AA and CX do not. That makes a lot of the difference.

This point is right on. CX doesn't seem play well with others - even alliance partners. In the end, its their right to do so as they have run their own business- but it does mean that DL-KE can do things CX-AA (or even QF-AA) can't....
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:16 am

Quoting ripcordd (Reply 10):
The pilot contract will be settled and they will be able to fly the route. AA has a huge presence in DFW and could make the route work just with DFW traffic now throw in CX in HKG it will work. Once the pilots are settled you will see DFW to HKG

With the AA pilot agreement going for a vote at the APA, I wonder if this issue will be resolved. Is this issue even part of the proposal?
 
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:35 am

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Will AA fly to HKG anytime soon? They have been rumouring to.

I could see it happening from DFW eventually. CX has it well covered at LAX, ORD, and JFK, but once AA gets it's pilot contracts sorted out and it's costs in order through BK, it's definitely a possibility.

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
US?

I don't see a realistic chance for US at HKG, if/when they expand into Asia, Hong Kong most probably won't be their first destination.

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 19):

CERTAIN regions ??? AA is lacking in ALL regions of the world outside the Americas.

Another one-sided view/half truth, why you continue to see AA as remarkable in this respect is beyond me. AA is dominant in the Americas where DL is comparatively weak and US is practically non-existent, AA is lacking to Europe but stronger on TATL than US (by flights and available seats), and while AA may serve only a couple Asian destinations, US serves none. Again, we all know where AA's weak spots are, but they're not the only carrier with weak/non-existent network areas. AA has the slots at JFK to launch handfuls of TATL flights to compete with DL, but to what avail if they know, for the moment at least, they can't compete on costs and would just lose money instead of strengthening their LATAM network where they know they could make a profit?

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 19):
Are you here to harass and act like a 9 year old bully from middle school trying to blindly defend your employer or you're here to make a point ??

Pfft...says the guy who's been suspended how many times for sending harassing, petty PM's to other members?
 
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:38 am

Quoting seatback (Reply 25):
With the AA pilot agreement going for a vote at the APA, I wonder if this issue will be resolved. Is this issue even part of the proposal?

Yes, this was one of the most important issues for management and is certainly resolved in the TA that is going out to vote. The new proposed limit is 18 hours scheduled and 20 hours maximum, for all international flying. Now it is only 14 hours scheduled and 15 hours maximum. This change would take effect immediately from the date of signing.
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:01 am

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 5):
Launching the longest route in their network with the largest plane in the fleet to a destination with zero existing presence and minimal (if any) brand recognition on a routing that's even longer than JFK-HKG at $80/oil ? ya good luck with that

Brand recognition on the Dallas end, and the CX presence on the HKG side could be a good fit. 1 stop service from Dallas to all of SE Asia, China, Indian sub-continent would help fill that plane.

Quoting ordjoe (Reply 6):
Unless AA landed some really huge lucrative corporate or cargo contract to do DFW-HKG I do not see it. AA is really gunshy with ULH routes.

DFW connecting traffic is going to help bring those with contracts already get to HKG.

Quoting ripcordd (Reply 10):
The pilot contract will be settled and they will be able to fly the route. AA has a huge presence in DFW and could make the route work just with DFW traffic now throw in CX in HKG it will work. Once the pilots are settled you will see DFW to HKG

Absolutly 100% agree, wish AA had done this a long time ago, oneworld hub to hub will bring the route success, IMO.

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 19):
People keep shouting "hub-to-hub" from the top of their lungs and yet no one still dare to touch MIA-NRT. If BOS and SAN is "low-hanging fruit" then what is MIA-NRT ? An even lower hanging fruit but apparently suitable with 77W ?

Point is other than South America and Caribbean, you don't have many other connecting opportunities, in Dallas you open up a big chunk of the AA network east of the Mississippi.
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:02 pm

Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 26):
Quoting slvrblt (Reply 23):

Says the AA employees who blindly defends his employer without any critical thought - I was comparing AA to DL/UA and you use the bottom feeder known as US to justify why AA is competitive

The only thing more tiresome to read are those who can't see the truth other than parroting the official line handed down by corporate HQ and the union and engaging in groupthink. Now go enjoy your 3-4-3 sardineliner while the rest of the informed traveling public stay on proper 3-3-3.
 
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:18 pm

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 29):

Says the AA employees who blindly defends his employer without any critical thought

I don't work for AA, sorry to shatter your illusion.
 
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:40 pm

Flyguy I was on the end of one of those pm's from him.

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 19):
Are you here to harass and act like a 9 year old bully from middle school trying to blindly defend your employer or you're here to make a point ??


Pfft...says the guy who's been suspended how many times for sending harassing, petty PM's to other members?
 
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:45 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 28):
Brand recognition on the Dallas end, and the CX presence on the HKG side could be a good fit. 1 stop service from Dallas to all of SE Asia, China, Indian sub-continent would help fill that plane.

Yup, and this has worked immensely well in QF's favor since launching DFW.

CX is a very well-managed airline. I think the challenge, however, would be how DFW would "fit" into the type of market that CX wants to chase after these days - and that being a premium one. While DFWHKG would have no issue filling seats on the plane, the question is, how many of those would be in the front? Anyone have any additional information on this - LAXDude?

Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 26):
Pfft...says the guy who's been suspended how many times for sending harassing, petty PM's to other members?

HAHAHA I did not realize I wasn't the only person that has been victimized by Mogando's PM blasts. This made my day - as well as a few of my buddies'.

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 29):
The only thing more tiresome to read are those who can't see the truth other than parroting the official line handed down by corporate HQ and the union and engaging in groupthink. Now go enjoy your 3-4-3 sardineliner while the rest of the informed traveling public stay on proper 3-3-3.

At this point, it is futile trying to establish that NONE Of us here are defending AA, but rather disproving your illusory comments that are purely wrapped within your disgust for the carrier. If you cannot accept the fact by now that it has boiled down to you vs. the rest of the world, then you can continue stewing in sulk while the rest of us have a good laugh over your lack of convincing counterpoints.
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:48 pm

Irish I did send his pm to the admins here I suggest you do the same if you have not already.
 
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:51 pm

Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 30):
Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 29):

Says the AA employees who blindly defends his employer without any critical thought

I don't work for AA, sorry to shatter your illusion.

Either you're lying on the forum on lying in the profile description, which says "station agent for AE"
 
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:07 pm

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 34):
Either you're lying on the forum on lying in the profile description, which says "station agent for AE"


I moved on to another position about a year ago and have simply yet to update my profile, not that my employment history is really any of your concern.

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 32):
Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 26):
Pfft...says the guy who's been suspended how many times for sending harassing, petty PM's to other members?

HAHAHA I did not realize I wasn't the only person that has been victimized by Mogando's PM blasts. This made my day - as well as a few of my buddies'.

LOL good, we can start a victims group.
 
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:33 pm

Quoting ripcordd (Reply 33):

Irish I did send his pm to the admins here I suggest you do the same if you have not already.

Thanks, I may just do that. I also have solace in the fact that he/she has been put in his/her place several times.

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 34):
Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 30):
Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 29):

Says the AA employees who blindly defends his employer without any critical thought

I don't work for AA, sorry to shatter your illusion.

Either you're lying on the forum on lying in the profile description, which says "station agent for AE"

^ This is getting pathetically sad.

Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 35):
LOL good, we can start a victims group.

Ha! I'm game. First round is on me.
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:02 pm

Quoting ripcordd (Reply 31):
Pfft...says the guy who's been suspended how many times for sending harassing, petty PM's to other members?

Why am I not surprised.........  
Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 34):
Either you're lying on the forum on lying in the profile description, which says "station agent for AE"

Wow. And wow, again. Yep, you have issues, kid. More than I had surmised even.  
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:15 pm

Quoting slvrblt (Reply 37):
Wow. And wow, again. Yep, you have issues, kid. More than I had surmised even.  
Quoting slvrblt (Reply 37):
Why am I not surprised.........  
Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 36):
Thanks, I may just do that. I also have solace in the fact that he/she has been put in his/her place several times.

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 34):
Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 30):
Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 29):

Says the AA employees who blindly defends his employer without any critical thought

I don't work for AA, sorry to shatter your illusion.

Either you're lying on the forum on lying in the profile description, which says "station agent for AE"

^ This is getting pathetically sad.

Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 35):
LOL good, we can start a victims group.

Ha! I'm game. First round is on me.

I feel for you guys and I noticed that on his/her profile, some of the stuff there isn't much better than what he/she says is on yours. It doesn't seem that they have ANY room to talk about you at all.
 
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:30 pm

This is all getting very futile - I suggest a wingers and moaners thread is open where people can spill blood to their hearts content about whether Boeing is better than Airbus, whether LH is better than BA, whether France is in Oceania, whether one a netter is more moronic than another etc - and leave the aircraft/airline etc related threads undiluted with the aggravating drivel we get on so many threads [a bit like this post really....sorry..rant over]
 
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:36 pm

There's NOTHING to stop them to flying to HKG right now. all they need is the desire to do it
 
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RE: Will AA/US Fly To HKG Anytime Soon?

Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:21 pm

Quoting jumpjets (Reply 39):
This is all getting very futile - I suggest a wingers and moaners thread is open where people can spill blood to their hearts content about whether Boeing is better than Airbus, whether LH is better than BA, whether France is in Oceania, whether one a netter is more moronic than another etc - and leave the aircraft/airline etc related threads undiluted with the aggravating drivel we get on so many threads [a bit like this post really....sorry..rant over]

I understand where you're coming from - the issue is that there are repeat culprits on here that post out of spite and distaste - and do it deliberately as well to evoke bitter reactions from other people.

It is one thing to be biased and state an opinion as long as you express it constructively and/or can support it with veritable facts and information. It's a completely different thing when you're clearly unprepared to respond to counter-arguments and you instead resort to levying personal insults on other people. All this clearly because you're ashamed of being exposed of your blatant inaccuracies.

In summary, there is nothing wrong with being corrected. We all make mistakes. In *certain* people's cases, it's easier to either poke peoples' eyes out publicly or send them private messages telling them to **** off and that they're "Texas Trash."

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 38):
I feel for you guys and I noticed that on his/her profile, some of the stuff there isn't much better than what he/she says is on yours. It doesn't seem that they have ANY room to talk about you at all.

Umm...I was appalled when I read some of his/her taglines. There are some real scummy people in this world in need of serious help.
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