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Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:33 am

Emirates on January 01 will upgauge its second daily JFK rotation from the current B77W to an A388 and will then operate twice daily A388s on its busy DXB JFK route. Schedule from January 01 will be as follows:

EK201 DXB JFK 0830 1350
EK202 JFK DXB 2300 2030+1

EK203 DXB JFK 0200 0720
EK204 JFK DXB 1040 0810+1

The addition of a second daily JFK roundtrip with A388 will be made possible by up to 9 aircraft to be delivered by the end of 2012. EK, which currently operates 21 A380s, is expected to take 3 aircraft each in September and October and may receive up to another 3 frames in November and December.

Current EK A380 destinations include YYZ, JFK, LHR, MAN, CDG, FCO, MUC, JED, JNB, BKK, KUL, HKG, PEK, PVG, ICN, SYD and AKL. Upcoming A380 destinations include NRT (from July), AMS (from August) and MEL (from October).
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:39 am

Kudos to Emirates. They're possibly expanding amazingly out there.

Slightly off topic, ive heard they aren't one of the best management there.
Nevertheless its working for them!

Quoting HB-IWC (Thread starter):
Emirates on January 01 will upgauge its second daily JFK rotation from the current B77W to an A388 and will then operate twice daily A388s on its busy DXB JFK route. Schedule from January 01 will be as follows:

I thought they were flying the 77L ..?
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:25 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Thread starter):
The addition of a second daily JFK roundtrip with A388 will be made possible by up to 9 aircraft to be delivered by the end of 2012.

"up to 9" is very good wording.

The two next A 380s for EK - MSN 101 and 103 - have been ferried to TLS instead of being delivered ex XFW, obviously to make the preliminary wing modification works, and they will not be delivered until September 2012 (almost 4 months later than planned).

If they intend to do the same for the remaining seven A 380s I don't see how they can deliver them until end of 2012:
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:07 pm

Unless other long haul airlines can summon up the cash to buy A380s we will shortly see Emirates being the world's national airline.

I like their drive, ambition and vision.

Congratulations to JFK in having more A380 flights.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:14 pm

Quoting babybus (Reply 3):
Unless other long haul airlines can summon up the cash to buy A380s we will shortly see Emirates being the world's national airline.

For that to happen they would need more than just one hub.

So far, logistically, it's a simple operation. Add in multiple hubs and it's a whole new ballgame.
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:19 pm

So how does the utilization work (if that is the right term)? The 380 lands at 13:50, stays parked 9 or so hours and then flies back to DXB? How many aircraft does it take to run this route per each flight number?
 
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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:23 pm

Quoting jayeshrulz (Reply 1):
I thought they were flying the 77L ..?

I don't believe EK ever operated the 77L to JFK. I may be wrong, though.

Slightly off topic, wasn't EK talking about adding a third daily flight to JFK?
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:34 pm

Quoting babybus (Reply 3):
Unless other long haul airlines can summon up the cash to buy A380s we will shortly see Emirates being the world's national airline.

I think if you added up all the scheduled passenger-kilometers flown on the top 10 airlines alone other than EK.....

i.e 1.3 billion in 2011 to EK's 143 million.....

They have quite a way to go yet before they could justify that accolade....

Maybe the worlds' 'favourite' airline....

Oh no....that's been done.

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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:56 pm

"Unless other long haul airlines can summon up the cash to buy A380s we will shortly see Emirates being the world's national airline."

That's an odd statement to say the least.

They are a rapidly growing airline based in a very volatile part of the world. A part of the world that many still consider too dangerous to travel to. Also, a part of the world that is not very nice to various ethnic groups, women, gays, religious groups, etc.

All of that will prevent Emirates from being the "worlds national airline."
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:02 pm

Is EK up to 4 daily A380 rotations at LHR yet?
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:05 pm

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 8):
They are a rapidly growing airline based in a very volatile part of the world. A part of the world that many still consider too dangerous to travel to.

Of which Emirates are you talking about? We are talking about the Emirates from Dubai but you are obviously refering to another airline, maybe from Afghanistan.  

PS.: just came back from the West Bank, safer place than some districts in Frankfurt...
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:08 pm

IS that 4 A380's daily to JFK ? 2 Emirates, 1 Singapore and 1 Korean Air ?
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:12 pm

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 8):
They are a rapidly growing airline based in a very volatile part of the world. A part of the world that many still consider too dangerous to travel to. Also, a part of the world that is not very nice to various ethnic groups, women, gays, religious groups, etc.

All of that will prevent Emirates from being the "worlds national airline."

Whoa scary talk, I guess a bit like Washington then, or parts of Miami, or Springfield, MA. Sorry, just trying to bring in some reality here. Unless they are actually flying those 380's empty because people are too scared to go to Dubai, now that would be showing off.
 
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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:29 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 11):

It is alt least 6 to/from JFK adding LH and AF

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:03 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 11):

What about Lufthansa and Air France?
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:07 pm

Awesome news! Gonna be nice to have a shower before landing in the morning, either in New York or Dubai, rather than in the middle of the day or the evening, as it currently is with 202/201. I usually fly 203 on my way home from India, as it is more convenient to have the morning arrival, and now it will be more exciting than the regular old 77W. Great job to Emirates! Can't wait! Perfect timing also, as I am booked to fly EK203 on Jan 2nd!
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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:29 pm

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 2):
The two next A 380s for EK - MSN 101 and 103 - have been ferried to TLS instead of being delivered ex XFW, obviously to make the preliminary wing modification works, and they will not be delivered until September 2012 (almost 4 months later than planned).

If they intend to do the same for the remaining seven A 380s I don't see how they can deliver them until end of 2012:

I had read that the modifications will be incorporated in the build programme of the A380s which should mean delivery as normal, or with smaller delay than now. Not sure when this will start though and whether this will be in time for EK's aircraft later in 2012.
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:30 pm

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 8):
They are a rapidly growing airline based in a very volatile part of the world. A part of the world that many still consider too dangerous to travel to. Also, a part of the world that is not very nice to various ethnic groups, women, gays, religious groups, etc.

Have you been there? I feel much safer in Dubai than in Detroit.

It's about time for second A380, it'll save a work day for many arriving in the morning.
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:09 pm

Quoting theginge (Reply 16):
I had read that the modifications will be incorporated in the build programme of the A380s which should mean delivery as normal, or with smaller delay than now. Not sure when this will start though and whether this will be in time for EK's aircraft later in 2012.

Unfortunately, this still takes some time. Currently, Airbus is waiting for approval for the new wings and will be only able to start building wings in the (hopefully) final version as of end of 2012. Given the production time of about one year between production of the wings and delivery, this means that starting from end of 2013 Airbus will be able to deliver A 380s without any additional modification works.

All A 380s being delivered until end of 2013 will require the modification works (i.e. all the nine A 380s mentioned above).
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:18 pm

It seems like only yesterday that some on here predicted the demise of the VLA and A380 in particular, when EK pulled the A380 from JFK . . .

JFK is going to have it's hands full with all the A380's!

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:23 pm

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 8):
They are a rapidly growing airline based in a very volatile part of the world. A part of the world that many still consider too dangerous to travel to. Also, a part of the world that is not very nice to various ethnic groups, women, gays, religious groups, etc.

You do have a point.

And those that don't consider it too dangerous i.e your typical holidaymaker.... are rather ignorant of the realities hence the terrible reports in the press of people ending up in the slammer.....(or worse)
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:31 pm

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 8):
They are a rapidly growing airline based in a very volatile part of the world. A part of the world that many still consider too dangerous to travel to. Also, a part of the world that is not very nice to various ethnic groups, women, gays, religious groups, etc.

They should make pills for this kind of sweeping generalization.

[Edited 2012-06-27 11:32:41]
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:48 pm

Quoting babybus (Reply 3):
Congratulations to JFK in having more A380 flights.
Quoting PW100 (Reply 19):
JFK is going to have it's hands full with all the A380's!

What airport sees the most A380's? Rankings, please.

Quoting emirates202 (Reply 15):
Perfect timing also, as I am booked to fly EK203 on Jan 2nd!

Was it mentioned when you booked?
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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:00 pm

Quoting ukoverlander (Reply 21):
They should make pills for this kind of sweeping generalization.

Well.....when you read.....

Quoting vincewy (Reply 17):
Have you been there? I feel much safer in Dubai than in Detroit.

I'm sure the people of downtown Manhattan would agree with the above when they think about the morning of Sept.11th 2001.

I sometimes wonder if people watch the news..........

Battles reach Syrian capital: Assad declares ‘Syria at war’

Boots on the ground? Unconfirmed reports say British SAS forces already in Syria

Decisive action? Turkey mobilizes troops and heavy equipment on Syrian border

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and President Mahinda Rajapaksa have stressed the need for a new world order at their meeting over the weekend.

Shall I go on.

Quoting col (Reply 12):
Sorry, just trying to bring in some reality here

So am I.
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:23 pm

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 22):
What airport sees the most A380's?

My money is on DXB . . .
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:23 pm

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 23):
Battles reach Syrian capital: Assad declares ‘Syria at war’

Distance between Damascus and Dubai: 1266 mi.
Distance between London and Belgrade: 1060 mi.

I guess during the Balkan war people should have avoided flying to LHR...
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:30 pm

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 23):
I'm sure the people of downtown Manhattan would agree with the above when they think about the morning of Sept.11th 2001.

I sometimes wonder if people watch the news..........

Battles reach Syrian capital: Assad declares ‘Syria at war’

Boots on the ground? Unconfirmed reports say British SAS forces already in Syria

Decisive action? Turkey mobilizes troops and heavy equipment on Syrian border

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and President Mahinda Rajapaksa have stressed the need for a new world order at their meeting over the weekend.

Shall I go on.

No if I were you I would say as little as possible before you make an even bigger fool of yourself. I suggest you invest in an Atlas and perhaps go out and educate yourself a little bit about the Middle East. Talk about layering sweeping generalization over sweeping generalization.

Quoting UALWN (Reply 25):
Distance between Damascus and Dubai: 1266 mi.
Distance between London and Belgrade: 1060 mi.

I guess during the Balkan war people should have avoided flying to LHR...

Thank you sir......somebody displaying a some knowledge and some common sense.

[Edited 2012-06-27 12:42:05]
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:45 pm

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 23):
I sometimes wonder if people watch the news..........

Battles reach Syrian capital: Assad declares ‘Syria at war’

Boots on the ground? Unconfirmed reports say British SAS forces already in Syria

Decisive action? Turkey mobilizes troops and heavy equipment on Syrian border

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and President Mahinda Rajapaksa have stressed the need for a new world order at their meeting over the weekend.


And exactly which one of these events occurred in Dubai?

There's been far far more terrorist attacks in London than Dubai and London has in the past turned a blind eye to a fair few islamic militants, even to the point of being labelled Londonistan by the French security forces.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londonistan_(term)

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 23):
Quoting col (Reply 12):
Sorry, just trying to bring in some reality here

So am I.


LOL! I think what you actually mean is: I am a BA fan who wants to spread mischief against a competitor no matter how ludicrous it makes me sound.

Lets face it BA must be bricking it, EK stealing a few Economy Class customers from the UK regions is faily irrelevant, however when EK starts to pinch US Business Class transit customers - that's serious.
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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:51 pm

Quoting ukoverlander (Reply 26):
No if I were you I would say as little as possible before you make an even bigger fool of yourself

Don't shoot the messenger pal.

Quoting UALWN (Reply 25):
Distance between Damascus and Dubai: 1266 mi.
Distance between London and Belgrade: 1060 mi.

Or more importantly...

Distance between Tehran and Dubai : 152 mi.

What happens to air travel everytime someone throws their toys out of their pram in the middle east ?

EK will be based smack bang in the middle of it all. It's not a case of if but when.

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:56 pm

Quoting vermeer (Reply 13):

7 if you include the 2nd a380 that KE flies in during the winter season
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:05 pm

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 10):
PS.: just came back from the West Bank, safer place than some districts in Frankfurt...

Safer for you as an individual to not get robbed or assaulted etc... yes I certainly will not dispute that. Safer in a sense that there is a climate that allows a foreign company (here EK) to come do business... no. While Germany is politically stable and will remain so for the foreseeable future, the West Bank, on the other hand, is one of the most politically unstable parts of the world, and that will not attract much investment, from airlines and all other investors (and even travelers in general)

Quoting jayeshrulz (Reply 1):
Slightly off topic, ive heard they aren't one of the best management there.
Nevertheless its working for them!

I guess that they are good at running an airline, make a profit and expand. For the rest, their labor model only works because they are in the UAE and take advantage of their excessively flexible laws. Plus, although they are privately run, they are ultimately owned by the Dubai emirate. Something that the USA or the EU probably would not allow anymore either.

Quoting Atlflyer (Reply 14):
Quoting jfk777 (Reply 11):

What about Lufthansa and Air France?

referring to how many A380s CDG gets. Someone mentioned the Asian airlines and forgot about the EU ones, hence the correction.

Quoting vincewy (Reply 17):
Have you been there? I feel much safer in Dubai than in Detroit.

Well yeah, but pretty much anywhere in this country you also are going to feel much safer than in Detroit. No offense to people in Detroit, I do know what kind of economic and social trouble your city is and has been for a while, and I am sure a majority of you contribute to make it a better place, but reality is that it remains a rough place overall, to live and to travel.
With one notable exception, the airport, which is excellent and by far my favorite airport to connect in this country. Which, unfortunately, might still be hurt Detroit's awful reputation, as some people might be reluctant to connect there...
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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:22 pm

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 28):
Or more importantly...

Distance between Tehran and Dubai : 152 mi.

What happens to air travel everytime someone throws their toys out of their pram in the middle east ?

EK will be based smack bang in the middle of it all. It's not a case of if but when.

I'm not making this up you know. I wish I was.

Tehran to Dubai 744 Miles

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=ika-dxb

I guess you mean from Dubai to the Iranian coast, thats not very far at all. The UAE is very safe, even if you don't agree with some of the laws of the land..

Yes Emirates is likely to get affected if there are further problems in the Middle East, then so are other airlines outside of the region as well.

Lets get back on topic rather than getting in to politics...
 
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:29 pm

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 28):
Distance between Tehran and Dubai : 152 mi.

What? Great circle distance between IKA and DXB: 744 mi. (For comparison, distance between MUC and BEG: 473 mi.)

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 28):
What happens to air travel everytime someone throws their toys out of their pram in the middle east ?
EK will be based smack bang in the middle of it all. It's not a case of if but when.

You may remember that there have been not one but two recent wars in the region (Iraq and Afghanistan --this one still going on). Have you noticed much disruption in EK's operations since 2001?
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:32 pm

Quoting vegetables2001 (Reply 27):
LOL! I think what you actually mean is: I am a BA fan who wants to spread mischief against a competitor no matter how ludicrous it makes me sound.

Lets face it BA must be bricking it, EK stealing a few Economy Class customers from the UK regions is faily irrelevant, however when EK starts to pinch US Business Class transit customers - that's serious.

What ?

Look, the region (the whole region) is a powder keg, Iran especially, Syria could be the fuse.

If you think people are going to get on a plane in New York (or anywhere else for that matter) and fly to an airport 150 miles from Tehran.........

I'm not gloating....air travel would be the least of my concerns.
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:36 pm

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 33):
If you think people are going to get on a plane in New York (or anywhere else for that matter) and fly to an airport 150 miles from Tehran.........

744 mi!!! Read the replies to your posts!
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:47 pm

Quoting UALWN (Reply 34):
744 mi!!! Read the replies to your posts!


You're missing the point.

Do you think the average American/European is going to make the distinction ?

Quoting theginge (Reply 31):
Yes Emirates is likely to get affected if there are further problems in the Middle East, then so are other airlines outside of the region as well.

Of course they are...all airlines will be affected but they ain't all 'based' in Dubai are they.

Quoting theginge (Reply 31):
Lets get back on topic rather than getting in to politics...

Yes
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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:55 pm

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 35):
Do you think the average American/European is going to make the distinction ?

Oh, come on! How many seats per day does EK send from America + Europe to DXB? Those people don't seem to care about how far or close DXB is from IKA... Ditto for those flying to AUH or DOH on EY or QR.

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:04 pm

Quoting UALWN (Reply 36):
Those people don't seem to care about how far or close DXB is from IKA... Ditto for those flying to AUH or DOH on EY or QR.

Not 'now' they don't no.

Hopefully...that won't change.

I am on your side you know.

It is the Achilles heel of the whole business model though.

Air travel and that kind of thing just don't mix.
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Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:07 pm

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 37):
Not 'now' they don't no.

Hopefully...that won't change.

I am on your side you know.

It is the Achilles heel of the whole business model though.

Air travel and that kind of thing just don't mix.

I guess you missed my post above:

Quoting UALWN (Reply 32):
You may remember that there have been not one but two recent wars in the region (Iraq and Afghanistan --this one still going on). Have you noticed much disruption in EK's operations since 2001?
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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:07 pm

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 35):

You're missing the point.

Do you think the average American/European is going to make the distinction ?

Okay, here are the main carriers based at:

EK: Dubai (DXB)
QR: Doha (DOH)
EY: Abu Dhabi (AUH)
TK: Istanbul (IST)
GF: Bahrain (BAH)

According to your definition, each of these airports are in the "danger zone". But have you looked at how many American or European cities are served by these carriers EVERY DAY ?!!

Are they only catering to Arab traffic to their homelands? Do the average American/European (or Australian, for that matters) really care about how many miles these carriers are flying close to Syrian or Iranian airspace? They wouldn't build new airports, order new planes, and rebuild their cities if it was only local population and regional workers. If you have flown these routes - you must have noticed the composition of these flights.

[Edited 2012-06-27 14:11:13]
 
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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:05 pm

Guys, don't get too far off point with emotions.

Reality is that if you took a poll tomorrow...most Americans are leery of travel to the middle east.

That may make us ignorant or smart or cautious. Either way..it is.

And for all the safety claims of dubai...no one has addressed their accepted discrimination of minority groups

So if Emirates goal is to be BA in the middle east they are going to have to get westerners en masse...and that may be a problem given all of the above
 
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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:08 pm

Was EK supposed to be starting EWR service sometime next year? Or are they completely ignoring the "most convenient airport to Manhattan?"   
 
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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:37 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Thread starter):
Upcoming A380 destinations include NRT (from July), AMS (from August) and MEL (from October).

Yay NRT! Looks like I'll see the EK 380 again this summer.


Here's a question: was this loaded into the OAG?

Are there many airlines at JFK that have codeshares with EK or is this purely O&D?
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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:05 am

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 28):
What happens to air travel everytime someone throws their toys out of their pram in the middle east ?
EK will be based smack bang in the middle of it all. It's not a case of if but when.

Lets, see: 1st Iraq war, 2nd Iraq war, Syrian conflict, Israel-Palestine conflict, war on terror in Afganistan, terrorist attacks in Yemen, and thru it all EK has grown from nothing to what itis today.

Quoting UALWN (Reply 32):
You may remember that there have been not one but two recent wars in the region (Iraq and Afghanistan --this one still going on). Have you noticed much disruption in EK's operations since 2001?

  

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 33):
If you think people are going to get on a plane in New York (or anywhere else for that matter) and fly to an airport 150 miles from Tehran.........

Yes they will, as they have done for the past 20 years. Mostly because NYers don't have a clue where Tehran and Dubai are 
 
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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:07 am

I took a vacation to Turkey in February and spent a little time in the Cappadocia region. I never thought, wow, Syria is only a 7 hour drive from here! However, on an online deals forum one time, there was a decent fare on EK, and there of course were a few comments like "Only $x to fall out of the sky!"

I think airline safety concerns for some are just as big of a deal for the clueless. (That isn't my opinion!)
 
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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:20 am

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 33):
Look, the region (the whole region) is a powder keg, Iran especially, Syria could be the fuse.

If you think people are going to get on a plane in New York (or anywhere else for that matter) and fly to an airport 150 miles from Tehran.........

I'm not gloating....air travel would be the least of my concerns.

By the same logic, should Americans be concerned about overflights or proximity to Mexico? Last I checked, some of the border cities had violent crime, and instability?? I think the airlines are smart enough to when it is or is not appropriate to fly to destinations due to factors outside of their control.
 
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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:00 am

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 23):
Quoting col (Reply 12):
Sorry, just trying to bring in some reality here

So am I.

No, sadly you are not. You have an agenda, which to me looks like it is back firing. Myself and my neighbor in Westfield, MA used to drive down to JFK to use EK when they first started with the 380's, before I moved to KL. Lots of Americans, who know the reality did. My nephew has been living and working in Dubai for the past two years, he cannot support any of your claims for the powder keg. They are flying 2 x 380 because the route does well. Stop digging the hole deeper, you are better than this. I would rather route via DXB than pay your Government stupid taxes, now that is something to focus on.

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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:52 am

Quoting babybus (Reply 3):
Unless other long haul airlines can summon up the cash to buy A380s we will shortly see Emirates being the world's national airline.

I would not worry about that - Canada won't let this happen. No matter what, there will also be AC.
 
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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:18 am

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 7):
I think if you added up all the scheduled passenger-kilometers flown on the top 10 airlines alone other than EK.....

In terms of RPKs, Emirates was the 5th largest airline in the world in 2011, according to Air Transport World statistics.


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RE: Emirates To Fly Twice Daily A380 To JFK

Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:31 am

Quoting babybus (Reply 3):
Unless other long haul airlines can summon up the cash to buy A380s we will shortly see Emirates being the world's national airline.

Ummm.... do they fly somewhere other than East from the UK? Unless they do I don't see BA and the like dying just yet. They're doing really well but this is a classic bubble, and I am not willing them to fail, its just that they have a lot of A380s to fill!!!

Quoting Rara (Reply 9):
Is EK up to 4 daily A380 rotations at LHR yet?

They're at three per day, the EK001 / 002, EK003 / 004 and EK005 / 006. EK029 / 030 was supposed to be upgauged ( I wanted to say upgraded, it does sound better, a gauge to me involves locomotives.......) by now but the issue with the wings has delayed deliveries. I am booked on the EK007 / 008 in October and hoping it's still a B773, even though it says a B77W on the website.