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HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:25 am

Not sure if this has been posted, but I noticed a few days ago that HA had begun operating an A330 on their HNL-SAN route. This morning I caught a glimpse of N389HA, a.k.a., Keali'iokonaikalewa, departing en route to HNL. EIS only on June 20 of this year, just a week ago - a brand new bird.  

It's nice to see an A330-243 gracing the tarmac here in SAN. She had to taxi on the north side, via the cargo and g/a apron, complete with an escort. Graceful lines - IMHO, next to the A340, the most beautiful airframe Airbus has ever produced.



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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:49 am

The HA A330 service started on Sunday. It's a bummer they have to do the runway cross (Lindy-hop)
Great photo though! It's the first picture I've seen of it!
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:07 am

I saw it take off today and its a pretty plane. Seems to be louder than the 763, however.
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:22 am

I am glad to see an A330, operating out of SAN.

Quoting WarmNuts (Thread starter):
Graceful lines - IMHO, next to the A340, the most beautiful airframe Airbus has ever produced.




I think the A350, could give them a run their money, in that category.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 2):
I saw it take off today and its a pretty plane. Seems to be louder than the 763, however.



Yes it is a pretty plane! I can under stand why it is louder. The engines on an A330, is not that many generations, apart from the engines used on a 767. So with the higher power in the A330's engines, they could produce a little more noise, and that just my thoughts on that, I may be wrong.
 
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:35 am

Thanks for the great picture 'nuts. She is a beautiful bird and it's a thrill to have her now visiting us daily!

Mahalo, Hawaiian, for this acknowledgement of San Diego's growing passenger traffic to The Islands.

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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:36 am

First Airbus widebody scheduled service for SAN since CO flew A300s here in the '80s. Nice!
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:01 am

Quoting WarmNuts (Thread starter):
Graceful lines - IMHO, next to the A340, the most beautiful airframe Airbus has ever produced.

Absolutely! Only good looking Airbus, IMO.

I grabbed some departure shots on Sunday and Monday but haven't had a chance to get them off my camera yet. Hopefully I can get one of them accepted here.
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:09 am

Quoting WarmNuts (Thread starter):
This morning I caught a glimpse of N389HA, a.k.a., Keali'iokonaikalewa, departing en route to HNL. EIS only on June 20 of this year, just a week ago - a brand new bird.

That's the Hawaiian name for the star Canopus, if anyone's interested.
 
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:23 am

Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 1):
It's a bummer they have to do the runway cross (Lindy-hop.)


Hey gang, it just occurred to me... why is the Lindy-hop necessary any more for anyone? Haven't all the obstacles to large wingspans along taxiway B been cleared by now? (I assume Speedbird is still doing the 'hop as well.)

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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:39 am

Quoting SANFan (Reply 8):
Hey gang, it just occurred to me... why is the Lindy-hop necessary any more for anyone? Haven't all the obstacles to large wingspans along taxiway B been cleared by now? (I assume Speedbird is still doing the 'hop as well.)

The last thing I heard the reason for still doing the Lindy-hops is that so the wings will not overlap the service road
over on that side. With all the obstacles removed, I can't see why they haven't moved the road further away from
the runway, (unless they're in the process of doing it already.)
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:20 am

Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 1):
The HA A330 service started on Sunday. It's a bummer they have to do the runway cross (Lindy-hop)
Great photo though! It's the first picture I've seen of it!

Though I've seen it before, I never thought about it enough to wonder if it had a name... classic. Along with BA's daily 772 arrival, it's nice to add a little w/b variety to our slate of daily 763's.

Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 9):
With all the obstacles removed, I can't see why they haven't moved the road further away from the runway, (unless they're in the process of doing it already.)

   There is ground torn up between Laurel/Harbor and the Commuter Terminal, but I don't see any sign of a relocation in the SDCRAA's master plan map:

http://www.san.org/sdcraa/airport_initiatives/master_plan/default.aspx

Speaking of the Commuter Terminal, the removal of the Charles Lindbergh mural was a mistake, IMO. Way to make our Commuter Terminal more generic, SDCRAA.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 4):
Thanks for the great picture 'nuts. She is a beautiful bird and it's a thrill to have her now visiting us daily!

Thanks, SANFan...  

Quoting HNLPointShoot (Reply 7):
That's the Hawaiian name for the star Canopus, if anyone's interested.

Thank you for the link. Nice to see the PR is dated today...
 
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:41 am

Quoting WarmNuts (Reply 10):
Speaking of the Commuter Terminal, the removal of the Charles Lindbergh mural was a mistake, IMO. Way to make our Commuter Terminal more generic, SDCRAA.

They did? I didn't know they removed the mural!! That's what made the airport unique! They must of had a reason,
bummer!

Quoting WarmNuts (Reply 10):
There is ground torn up between Laurel/Harbor and the Commuter Terminal, but I don't see any sign of a relocation in the SDCRAA's master plan map:

The relocation of the road was probably insignificant to the point where they didn't feel the need to put it in
the master plan, (just like when they added extra gates for WN). I remember SDCRAA president Thella Bowen
saying recently in an interview that with the removal of the Teledyne bldgs, there would be enough space to
accomodate the wingspan of the 787. The torn up ground in that area could be the new road under construction.
BTW, the master plan still has the Teledyne bldgs in it. (If you look closely)

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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:11 am

Heres my photo of her on her Inaugural flight.

N389HA, N389HA performing first SAN-HNL June 24th, 2012. She was delivered 4 day old airplane
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:52 am

Quoting redrooster3 (Reply 12):
Heres my photo of her on her Inaugural flight.


Beautiful angle... it really shows the graceful aesthetic of the wingspan.
 
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:24 pm

This thing departs at absolutely the worst time of day for photography so it's going to be very difficult getting a shot accepted to the database. I'm not very happy with these as the light is extremely harsh but here I have a few quick edits. Some shots from Sunday and Monday.


Hawaiian A330 by Silver1SWA (Ryan Pastorino), on Flickr


Hawaiian A330 by Silver1SWA (Ryan Pastorino), on Flickr


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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:48 pm

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 3):
So with the higher power in the A330's engines, they could produce a little more noise, and that just my thoughts on that, I may be wrong.

Doesn't SAN also have a relatively short runway? If so, maybe they're using higher thrust too.

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 6):

Absolutely! Only good looking Airbus, IMO.

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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:23 pm

Thanks for sharing your latest photos Ryan. Great as always, and a lovely model to shoot certainly helps!

(BTW, a recent check of HA's booking engine is still showing the 'Bus flying the SAN-HNL r/t all the way through the close of the booking window - May 25, 2013 - so it appears to be a permanent upgrade (or at least until such time as she is needed elsewhere.)  

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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:27 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 8):
Hey gang, it just occurred to me... why is the Lindy-hop necessary any more for anyone? Haven't all the obstacles to large wingspans along taxiway B been cleared by now? (I assume Speedbird is still doing the 'hop as well.)

Its the wingspan. The A330's wings are 40 feet longer than a 767. Though ATC treats them like a 767, they have more prone risk of hitting something on the bravo side of the runway. The 787 will have to cross the runway too.

Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 9):
overlap the service road

  
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Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:57 pm

Quoting redrooster3 (Reply 17):
Its the wingspan. The A330's wings are 40 feet longer than a 767. Though ATC treats them like a 767, they have more prone risk of hitting something on the bravo side of the runway. The 787 will have to cross the runway too.

Wow, I can see some real issues in the not-too-distant future then. If all of our larger wide-bodied intercontinental flights -- and I expect there will be more to come -- will have to do the 'hop, during busy times of the day it will certainly gum up the works on the active. It will either add further delays to the takeoffs and landings, in order to allow the crossing of 9-27, or by adding a LOT to taxi times including taxiway congestion while the bird waits for an opportunity to cross... The terminal area is already very tight on taxiing room and the last thing we need is a couple of big wide-spanning a/c sitting there waiting to cross the runway...

I hope something is in the works to somehow eliminate this issue.

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Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:42 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 18):
Wow, I can see some real issues in the not-too-distant future then. If all of our larger wide-bodied intercontinental flights -- and I expect there will be more to come -- will have to do the 'hop, during busy times of the day it will certainly gum up the works on the active. It will either add further delays to the takeoffs and landings, in order to allow the crossing of 9-27, or by adding a LOT to taxi times including taxiway congestion while the bird waits for an opportunity to cross... The terminal area is already very tight on taxiing room and the last thing we need is a couple of big wide-spanning a/c sitting there waiting to cross the runway...

As I mentioned earlier, Thella Bowen commented on the removal of the obstacles on that side of
the runway to allow the longer wingspans of the 787,777,A330,(747s?) to use that taxiway. Thella
Bowen is the person who knows exactly what is going on at Lindbergh , (most likely she knows way more
about the airport than we do) .My best guess is they're working on getting that service road relocated and
ready just in time for JAL's 787s when they start touching down from Tokyo.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 18):
I hope something is in the works to somehow eliminate this issue.

I'm almost posititive that the problem is being addressed, especially in light of the possibility of more widebodies
coming.

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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:52 pm

Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 1):
It's a bummer they have to do the runway cross (Lindy-hop)

Can someone please explain what the Lindy-hop is. From the comments, I can infer that it's some kind of less efficient taxi route due to clearance issues, but am interested in hearing about it. Thanks.
 
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:02 pm

6 years ago I was working for a Architecture/Engineering firm in Orange County that was designing a new taxiway. The issue as stated above was/is the service road and more importantly, the Teledyne-Ryan complex. The plan was held up for years pending the environmental remediation liability for the Teledyne-Ryan complex. Once that was resolved, the buildings were demolished. This would allow the service road to be moved and the taxiway reconstructed.
Not sure what the status is today...but that was the plan.
On a side note, I got to spend 4 weeks photographing and documenting every inch of the Teledyne-Ryan complex as part of the Taxiway project. They were fascinating buildings but incredibly toxic.
 
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:25 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 20):
Can someone please explain what the Lindy-hop is. From the comments, I can infer that it's some kind of less efficient taxi route due to clearance issues, but am interested in hearing about it. Thanks.

Widebodies, after pushing back from the gate, they taxi across the runway to the other side, they taxi up
several feet and then they taxi back across the runway for takeoff. There were obstacles on the other side
of the runway that the longer wingspan couldn't clear. The taxi across the runway was required. Doing the
"hop" across the runway is not a big problem when traffic is slow, but at peak times, it could tie up traffic
until the widebody aircraft clears the runway.



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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:33 pm

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 14):
This thing departs at absolutely the worst time of day for photography so it's going to be very difficult getting a shot accepted to the database. I'm not very happy with these as the light is extremely harsh but here I have a few quick edits. Some shots from Sunday and Monday.

I think the pictures look great just as they are. Would you be able to get better pictures on a cloudy/partly cloudy day?
Since this is San Diego we're talking about, just wait a few minutes!!  
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:52 pm

Quoting SANFan (Reply 18):
I hope something is in the works to somehow eliminate this issue.

Not that big of an issue. If the SANRR get the Telyedyne issue behind it, wingspan will ahve to be addressed.

Otherwise, It's called the SAN market. There can't be that many wide body international type flights here because of the runway, terrain and market. I don't think a max of one NRT, one HNL, one LHR and maybe one of two more like FRA, AMS, CDG could ever be a real problem at SAN. Most of these flights leave in lower demand periods.
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:53 pm

Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 11):
They did? I didn't know they removed the mural!! That's what made the airport unique! They must of had a reason,
bummer!

I agree. A huge shame. However, it now looks like a shadow of Lindy and that looks pretty unique!

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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:56 pm

Quoting irelayer (Reply 25):
it now looks like a shadow of Lindy and that looks pretty unique!

I dunno, maybe they removed the mural because it was chipping or fading?

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 24):
If the SANRR get the Telyedyne issue behind it, wingspan will ahve to be addressed.

The buildings are all gone now, unless it has something to do with mitigating the ground.
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:17 am

Quoting airbazar (Reply 15):
I find the A345 to be the most beautiful airplane currently flying, but that's me

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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:18 am

New to this.....not sure how quoting works.....
In response to SANMAN66....the grounds are polluted with Hexavelent Chromium.....VERY nasty stuff. They are chasing underground plumes to clean the soil.
 
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:27 am

Quoting SANflyr (Reply 28):
the grounds are polluted with Hexavelent Chromium.....VERY nasty stuff. They are chasing underground plumes to clean the soil.

So that's the reason! I guess it's taking some time to get it all cleaned up. Those chemicals DO sound pretty
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Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:33 am

Quoting SANflyr (Reply 28):
In response to SANMAN66....the grounds are polluted with Hexavelent Chromium.....VERY nasty stuff. They are chasing underground plumes to clean the soil.

Gee, you'd wonder if that chromium would fly up out of the soil and somehow get into the wings of an airliner passing over it. The RAA has dealt with this stuff before without the sky falling. First it was the General Dynamics site - they said it would be a big issue, but it wasn't too long until they were charging for parking on the site.
Camp Nimitz area was the same - used to be a garbage dump I believe. Now it's housing Terminal Two West and parking in the meantime.
The RAA isn't saying what they want to do with Tyledyne Ryan, yet they were watching the Mayor and others talk about moving all the terminals to the Pacific Highway side of the airport and put in an underground railway system to move all passengers to aircraft. At that point the Telydyne Ryan site was blacked out on all diagrams - how do you do a reliable Master Plan without dealing with a major portion of the site???
At a meeting, I suggested to the Tower chief that part of the Telydye ryan area be used as a pad for sequencing departures and his eyes lite up - more likely the RAA, looking for revenue, will put in parking, which could put more vehicular traffic on jammed Harbor Drive.
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Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:47 am

The major contamination is in the center of the site where the sawtoothed-roof manufacturing building was. Last time I flew out there was a hole there. When my firm studied the site several years ago we looked at the remainder of the site (minus the new taxiway) and planned for numerous scenarios. Some low rise office buildings (stupid in my opinion, imagine the morning and evening rush on Harbor), parking lots, and on. Interestingly enough, from my last look at the master plan (on San.org), a new taxiway is not shown, so I do not know where the issue stands. I do think the new taxiway is needed and it made it into the design phase.
My guess....we'll see surface pay parking lots there since the T2 garage has been put on hold. Lots of $ for the authority.
 
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Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:14 am

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 30):
Tyledyne Ryan, yet they were watching the Mayor and others talk about moving all the terminals to the Pacific Highway side of the airport and put in an underground railway system to move all passengers to aircraft.

I remember when that was talked about, but the thing that still stumps me about it is how do they
plan to tunnel under the active runway without disrupting flights? I don't think they addressed that
issue! Until I see them figure out that solution, (with the underground subway) I dismiss it as a fantasy.

Quoting SANflyr (Reply 31):
since the T2 garage has been put on hold. Lots of $ for the authority.

I've always said they need a parking garage there. When the Green Build is done there's going to be
more flights, and more flights mean more people. Heck, along with WN's ever-present 737s, the buildup
of AS, and now we have more int'l service than we did five years ago, The SDCRAA better address
where they will have people park before it's too late. having all those parking lots take up too much
land! Consolidating all parking into one garage will free up land used by all the "SAN-Parks", and
"Wally Parks!" (now I'm done ranting!) Whew!
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:01 am

Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 19):
Quoting SANFan (Reply 18):
Wow, I can see some real issues in the not-too-distant future then. If all of our larger wide-bodied intercontinental flights -- and I expect there will be more to come -- will have to do the 'hop, during busy times of the day it will certainly gum up the works on the active. It will either add further delays to the takeoffs and landings, in order to allow the crossing of 9-27, or by adding a LOT to taxi times including taxiway congestion while the bird waits for an opportunity to cross... The terminal area is already very tight on taxiing room and the last thing we need is a couple of big wide-spanning a/c sitting there waiting to cross the runway...

As I mentioned earlier, Thella Bowen commented on the removal of the obstacles on that side of
the runway to allow the longer wingspans of the 787,777,A330,(747s?) to use that taxiway. Thella
Bowen is the person who knows exactly what is going on at Lindbergh , (most likely she knows way more
about the airport than we do) .My best guess is they're working on getting that service road relocated and
ready just in time for JAL's 787s when they start touching down from Tokyo.




I believe AA used to wash their 747's, at SAN in the 70's and 80's, and UA used to use 747's, on their SAN-LAX-HNL in the 80's, so SAN can accommodate wide wing wide bodies. Now I do think, that it is time for SAN to build an extra runway. Yes, the space in San Diego is tight, but the airport should still look into the extra runway.
 
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:09 am

Speaking of 747s, I just received a text from a co-worker that an Atlas 747 was at SAN today. Anyone know why?

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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:15 am

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 33):
I believe AA used to wash their 747's, at SAN in the 70's and 80's, and UA used to use 747's, on their SAN-LAX-HNL in the 80's, so SAN can accommodate wide wing wide bodies.

I remember I used to see the UA 747 each morning during the early 80's, Don't forget, BA and British Caledonian
flew their 747s in during the late 80s, (by way of LAX).

I forgot about one thing regarding the infamous "Lindy-hops". Last summer I was watching the
BA flight taxi for takeoff, the 777 only crossed the runway once and taxiied all the way down on the other
side. If they are crossing the runway only once, then it shouldn't be a huge traffic tie-up for other flights.
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:18 am

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 34):
Speaking of 747s, I just received a text from a co-worker that an Atlas 747 was at SAN today. Anyone know why?

Aw nuts!! Is it still here?

According to Flightaware, it came in from HNL, and landed not too long ago.

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Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:37 am

Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 36):
Aw nuts!! Is it still here?

Sounds like it's parked on the north ramp.
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:00 am

Quoting san747 (Reply 5):
First Airbus widebody scheduled service for SAN since CO flew A300s here in the '80s. Nice!

Yup! Prettydarnexciting if you ask me.

Quoting WarmNuts (Reply 10):
Speaking of the Commuter Terminal, the removal of the Charles Lindbergh mural was a mistake, IMO.

My toss in a dissent. The idea was grand - honor the airport's namesake. But the mural had Lindbergh holding a tiny model of the Spirit of St. Louis while standing there with this impish grin. The entire effect made him look like an adult with special needs, to put it nicely. I rolled my eyes every time I drove passed that mural.
 
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:02 am

Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 35):
I remember I used to see the UA 747 each morning during the early 80's, Don't forget, BA and British Caledonian flew their 747s in during the late 80s, (by way of LAX).

I've gone down there plenty of times to watch the arrival of both the UA and the BA 747s in their respective days... Sweet, sweet nostalgia.  

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 37):
Sounds like it's parked on the north ramp.

Had I known, I would have grabbed my camera bag and headed down from RB behind the traffic... Looks like it arrived at a nice time of day as well.


Edited to add it looks like the ETD of GTI7471 is at 2130 tonight, bouncing up to Victorville:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI7471

Damn shame I missed its arrival.


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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:29 am

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 37):
Sounds like it's parked on the north ramp.

I don't live too far from the airport and just took a little drive-by. Yup, there's a 744 sitting there,
right near the tower.

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 38):
My toss in a dissent. The idea was grand - honor the airport's namesake. But the mural had Lindbergh holding a tiny model of the Spirit of St. Louis while standing there with this impish grin. The entire effect made him look like an adult with special needs, to put it nicely. I rolled my eyes every time I drove passed that mural.

Right now it's just the silouette of the Lindbergh mural. If they were going to remove it completely, they would
have painted over the whole wall. They're either going to leave it as a silouette, or repaint the details in it. The
thing I wasn't too fond of was the bronze Lindbergh statue that used to be in front of T-2W.
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:00 am

Quoting WarmNuts (Reply 39):
it looks like the ETD of GTI7471 is at 2130 tonight, bouncing up to Victorville:

I wonder why it's heading to VCV? Storage maybe?
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RE: HA Now Operating A332 On SAN-HNL

Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:35 am

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 34):
Speaking of 747s, I just received a text from a co-worker that an Atlas 747 was at SAN today. Anyone know why?

All the good stuff happens when I'm off.

If you have a FlightAware account, you can set alerts for specific movements to be sent to your email. I set an alert for any time a flight plan involving SAN and a 747 happens. Obviously, I don't get many emails with those results, but it did mean I knew of the Atlas plane in enough time that if I had been in SAN today, I could have gotten there for a pic.
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