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Turkish Aviation July 2012

Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:46 pm

Happy July to all Turkish Aviation fans,
Welcome to another thread of ours;

Can you say, "Star Alliance livery" ? I remember when we used to wait for the first one to be painted.


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Latest news and some follow ups;
-UA is starting EWR-IST this month. Welcome to Turkey and Happy Landings!
-Yet another record at IST. On June 29th, 542 landings, 555 take offs, making it the busiest 24hrs ever.
-A new transit tunnel at IST, from what I can read "international to domestic", is in place. How is it?
-Istanbul ATC to drop separation between planes from 5 miles to 3 miles. How will this affect taxi times, gates?
-TK not interested in Aer Lingus, since it can not control its majority.
-TK announced flights to IAH, but Temel Kotil says not yet since no planes, where is this 77W coming from?
-Seabird started operation with a single Twin Otter, Golden Horn at Istanbul to Alacati. Best of luck to them!
-Tailwind is the latest operator allowed to fly to Gazipasa in Alanya.
-TK receives its 4th 739ER TC-JYD and also another 321 TC-JSB, and a 738 TC-JHN.
-With the addition of Izair 319s, what is the latest number of 319s at TK, 13 or 14?
-Pegasus started flights to TLV. How is TLV-Istanbul doing these days?
-Atlasjet starts flights out of SAW and now down to single A330.

This is what comes to my mind, please continue with updates.
Thanks for sharing news, ideas, rumors, photos.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:01 pm

I'm using UA 904 tomorrow for work. Full load in F and back of the car too. I'm surprised.   
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:20 pm

Quoting fxramper (Reply 1):

3 Class 767 right? Have a safe flight.
Would like to know any dignitaries in F for the inaugural?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:22 pm

I guess it is safe to assume that there is no more interest in LOT?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:26 pm

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-With the addition of Izair 319s, what is the latest number of 319s at TK, 13 or 14?

According to Planespotters.net, the number of A319s at TK is 14.

Quoting ju068 (Reply 3):
I guess it is safe to assume that there is no more interest in LOT?

The board had decided not to purchase LOT because they could not get a majority stake in the company. This was decided before the rumor that THY was interested in Aer Lingus  

[Edited 2012-06-30 16:28:37]
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:31 pm

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-TK not interested in Aer Lingus, since it can not control its majority.

Yes never was going to be a viable option for them was very dubious at the rumors.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:40 am

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-Yet another record at IST. On June 29th, 542 landings, 555 take offs, making it the busiest 24hrs ever.
-A new transit tunnel at IST, from what I can read "international to domestic", is in place. How is it?

I was part of that record on the 29th  

Also noticed the new access point from domestic into international; next to gate 201 from which my flight departed. Unfortunately, some bad planning again, as the lack of flight info monitors (displaying all gate information) confuses pax arriving from domestic looking to make their international connection.

On a different note, Turkish Do&Co catering disappointed again. I am actually a big fan of Do&Co and still think they add real value to the TK product. However, over the last few months the catering has deteriorated in quality.

MK_INT_IST_BC_HM3_GID (AFAIK, longer routes such as LIS get HM4 which is same food, larger portions)

Assorted Turkish Appetizers (Got this for at least 60% of my short haul/mid haul flights) and Stuffed Eggplant marinated in olive oil as starters. The eggplant soaked in poor quality olive oil and gave me a heavy stomach for the rest of the day.

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q552/cmerter/IMG_0643.jpg

I have to agree with the comments in last months thread that the pasta is not that good.

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q552/cmerter/IMG_0645Main.jpg

In short, it seems that Turkish Do&Co has reduced portions and increased the oil content of the catering. Apologies for the long post and amateur photos.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:57 am

Sunexpress is having some rough days.
After having 6 aircraft's on the ground last week due to lightning strikes, bird strikes and other technical reasons. This Sunday morning two Sunexpress B737 airplanes hit eachother (wing-tip and vertical stabalizer) while parking in to gate 19 & 20 at Stockholm Arlanda airport. Article in swedish:

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article15057410.ab

By experience, those 2 parking spots in Stockholm are quite tight. Still, I believe the pilots will get the blame as usual. I guess this means I'll be flying some SunEx flights this week as well  
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:42 pm

Quoting tcm (Reply 6):
Apologies for the long post and amateur photos.

Hey, no worries, the longer the better. Photos are great.
TK trying to save money by reducing portions or quality? Seems like it.
Any idea if this means back to profitability at least, seems like the stock is doing lot better last month.

Quoting cuban8 (Reply 7):
I'll be flying some SunEx flights this week as well

Safe flights, happy Landings,
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:53 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 8):
TK trying to save money by reducing portions or quality?

Not only small portions. They modified ingredients too. I had a weird combination of a meatball and chicken dish. One piece from each that does not match at all. One small meatball (did taste OK) and one small slice of chicken breast (below average). What was I supposed to do? Drink rosé?   And food got fatty too. It is still over average for an airline food but quite disappointing for TK.

You cannot save money from food! I hate the stupid story of removing one olive from each serving and gaining million dollars. Someone has to teach them what is the opportunity cost and what you lose for each gain! I cannot calm down when it comes to food.

Where TK loses money is not the service nor crew salary. Profitability disappears for the lack of organizational structure. They should introduce again something like performance evaluation.

Warmest welcome to Seabird and wish them the best. I see these small aviation companies as little family businesses in small towns.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:42 pm

Quoting NuD38 (Reply 9):
Someone has to teach them what is the opportunity cost and what you lose for each gain!

Spot on, typical US business model (not limited to airlines), and unfortunately this mentality has spread worldwide. Not to mention TK has raised the fares of Comfort Class (some segments substantially) recently. I don't mind the the increase itself (I understand they have to make profit) but please at least maintain the product standard, at this rate I might as well fly with Y to save a few hundred bucks
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:00 pm

I heard rumors from pilot friends that TK will order the following on Farnborough Airshow;

- 10 + 5 Boeing 747-8
- 15 Airbus A330

as I said, these are rumors, but I also think where there is fire there is smoke  

I just wanted to ask if anyone else heard the same news maybe from TK insiders?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:39 pm

Quoting Northstar80 (Reply 11):

Well....we love rumors.
I have heard the 15 x 330 also, not the 748.
Enough second hand 332s out there I think, no need for a new order.
But knowing TK, they want to get something extra out of the deal. In terms of leverage, this doesn't make sense.
Like if they go for the 748, they should get cheaper/earlier 77Ws/777F or some early 787s with it.
Or, "I would buy 15 330s if you give me a deal on the 350 or the 380"

Also in the last months "wing" said similar things about a 747/777 type new order.
Temel Kotil quoted saying they can't start IAH, no 77Ws avail.

Yey, a new order coming !!!!

-I suggest you start a NEW THREAD, we might get more info!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:12 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 8):
Hey, no worries, the longer the better. Photos are great.
TK trying to save money by reducing portions or quality? Seems like it.

Thanks for the encouragement TK787! I think I will order KSML on TK intra-Europe from time to time to have some variety.

Another interesting article by CAPA on TK's North American expansion. I know we have talked about this many times before, but the article mentions as MIA for the most likely candidate of 2013. I guess TK will look to lease some extra capacity (777?) if further expansion is planned as suggested in the article below.

Link: http://www.centreforaviation.com/ana...ouston-and-potentially-miami-77202

[Edited 2012-07-03 01:14:46]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:09 am

So, it's less than a week left to Farnborough, will we really see an order from TK? Is Kotil even going to the show?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:18 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 12):
Well....we love rumors.
I have heard the 15 x 330 also, not the 748.
Enough second hand 332s out there I think, no need for a new order.
But knowing TK, they want to get something extra out of the deal. In terms of leverage, this doesn't make sense.
Like if they go for the 748, they should get cheaper/earlier 77Ws/777F or some early 787s with it.
Or, "I would buy 15 330s if you give me a deal on the 350 or the 380"

Also in the last months "wing" said similar things about a 747/777 type new order.
Temel Kotil quoted saying they can't start IAH, no 77Ws avail.

Yey, a new order coming !!!!

-I suggest you start a NEW THREAD, we might get more info!




Oh god, please no more second hand or dumped planes. I am sick and tired seeing different cabin configurations on every plane.

In btw, I heard about more 777w and 748 order rumors. Guess everyone talk about his/her favorite plane 

333 orders seems to not feasible now due to lack of range for most US routes. If TK has a very good deal for 748, may order and use spare 777w s for newly announced routes.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:45 pm

TGS side of the house is killing the operations of TK. I was on TK 3 a week ago (the early morning IST-JFK flight about 95% full) and they were off loading cargo from the plane when we were supposed to board. The aircraft was at the gate for 2 hours before the boarding time. You cannot tell me that you are unable to turn a 330 around in 2:30 hrs in a hub.

Checked all the flights that day and all 3 IST-JFK flights were about 1 hour late. This is really bad if you have connections.

Of course nothing has changed in last 2 decades that I have been flying this route: no pre boarding, no boarding announcements , stampede at the boarding time..

TK is NOT the best airline in Europe, and in my opinion deserves only 3 stars .. not 4 ..
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:51 pm

According to another forum, Airblue of Pakistan has signed a lease agreement via ILFC for two ex-TK A340s which are due to be delivered in August. Presumably these will be frames TC-JIJ and TC-JIK. Does anyone know what the seating configs are for these aircraft?
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:07 pm

Quoting imiakhtar (Reply 17):

AFAIK, 34J/236Y

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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:36 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 18):
AFAIK, 34J/236Y

IIRC, last time I flew TC-JIK (charter) it was in full Y configuration.

Quoting MeCe (Reply 15):
Oh god, please no more second hand or dumped planes. I am sick and tired seeing different cabin configurations on every plane.

The ex-9W 77Ws that left TK for TG were not that bad. SQ and EK have more different cabins than TK actually. Unless the cabin configuration is inferior to the main product; a little variety is exciting. The situation regarding the narrow-body is another story though.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:24 am

Quoting bahadir (Reply 16):

Seems like handling the baggage is a worldwide problem. I used TK 002 about a week ago and we were late about 2.5 hours just because of slowness of luggege handling . I always find boarding a plane in istanbul (I am talking about US flights) easier then boarding a İstanbul plane from NY . Also whatever the reason is , taking all your luggages to a agent and taking them back to check area and then lining for a passport control where only 2 or 3 agents working is a serious headache even for US citizens .I wonder how diffcult it is for others .

By the way can the pilots of 777 see the engines of their plane from where they sit ?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:47 am

TK has launched ABJ flights via ACC 4 times weekly as of July 4th with Boeing 737-900ER.
Here is the link: (sorry only in Turkish)

http://www.focushaber.com/thy-nin-fi...li-seferleri-basladi-h-151294.html
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:37 am

According to Wikipedia Bahrain Air commences Ankara Bahrain direct service on 13 October 2012 and TK to commence Ankara Kuwait direct service on 29 October 2012.

Can anybody confirm whether the information is accurate and if so details on frequency, a/c type etc.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:38 pm

Do Air Blue have fifth freedom on SAW-MAN route? their schedule shows them operating some MAN flights without a stop i.e SAW being used as a tech stop only but not listed, while other MAN flights are linked to the regular SAW service which is in schedules as ISB-SAW-MAN.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:28 pm

Another award for THY

Turkish Airlines Named Best Airline Food in the Sky
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/turkis...-named-best-airline-125000325.html

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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:51 pm

@777way


Yes, they are selling tickets for SAW-MAN-SAW
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:50 pm

Thanks Skyeurope, I wonder if this route will see the A340 plus a shift to Ataturk Airport.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:35 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 26):

But if they keep the stop they will be less competitive from a passenger's perspective. Maybe they will use this Airbus which operated the route to MAN to serve Istanbul?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:18 pm

Below you can find the unserved and underserved destinations from ESB as revealed by TAV; They are trying to identify airlines to serve these routes;

Unserved as of July 2012
Paris (AF suspended the route in 1996)
Zurich (SR suspended the route when SR collapsed and not restored by LX eversince)
London (BD (exBMed) suspended LHR ESB in 2008 and Anadolujet suspended ESB STN in April 2012)
Rome (AZ suspended the route in 1995 but uses ESB for fuel stopovers between FCO and IKA time to time)
Prague (charters flown time to time)
Bishkek
Kiev (MotorSich suspended the route in 2007)
Amman (RJ suspended in 2005 but Petra Airways puts charter service time to time)
Astana
Beirut (MEA operated the route from early 50ies until 1992 and suspended eversince)
Tashkent
Cairo
Asghabat
Kuwait

Underserved as of July 2012
Brussels (TK and Pegasus flies the route, SN suspended when they collapsed)
Vienna (TK and Pegasus operates, OS suspended when LH took over OS)
Amsterdam (KLM flew AMS ESB from 1956 till 1991 and suspended eversince, TK flies ESB AMS as well as Corendon)
Copenhagen (SAS operated the route from 1960 until 70'ies, TK and Pegasus flies currently)
Stockholm (TK flies currently, Snow Flakes also operated historically)
Dusseldorf (TK flies)
Cologne (TK, Germanwings, Pegasus flies currently)
Moscow (TK flies daily, SU served from 1954 until 2004 and suspended eversince)
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:30 pm

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 28):
Paris (AF suspended the route in 1996)

Funny, there was Air France representatives present for the opening of the new ESB terminal in 2006, and TAV representatives were virtually certain they would be able to see AF return shortly.


Anyhow - this goes back to the bigger issue, the historic fact that Ankara provides very much reduced traffic let alone revenue, and that even TK has struggled in offering nonstop links to Europe from the Turkish capital while it sought to develop IST bypass routes.
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:20 am

TK extends twice daily 77W service to January 2013. Another sign TK is doing good business.

See: http://airlineroute.net/2012/07/10/tk-jfk-w12/

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 24):
Another award for THY

I wonder how people would vote after having eaten stuffed eggplant on every flight. The köfte (meatball) dish is still the same for almost three years now. So is the chocolate mousse    Sorry for the rant.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:04 pm

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 28):

Qatar is seeking passenger rights from Ankara to Belgrade but it seems that the Turks are not willing to give them. Such a shame.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:19 pm

Quoting ju068 (Reply 31):

Not surprised. ESB is a good feeder to TK and TK does not wish to see a lot of competition there. They even turned down BD to codeshare ESB LHR as TK does not wish to see any competition to its mainline ex-IST flights.

That is why AF, KL, BA and/or AZ will eventually step into ESB and create competition. I am sure once the economic downtrun in Europe is over, we will see that happen.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:24 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 2):
Would like to know any dignitaries in F for the inaugural?

There were a few VP's. Smisek wasn't on board. Flight has been late arriving and departing. I'm going back tomorrow for work and it looks completely full again. I was talking to the purser and he was also very surprised on the flights going out near full. No way UA goes larger than a 767 on this flight, right?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:47 am

Guys, has the show been going a little dry this year or is it my feeling? Do we still expect an order from TK?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:00 am

Quoting Northstar80 (Reply 34):

Guys, has the show been going a little dry this year or is it my feeling? Do we still expect an order from TK?

I guess the state of the global economy with even China slowing down brings uncertainty for airlines.

According to the news story below TK is still negotiating, I'm sure they are trying to get the best deal possible.

Link: http://www.airporthaber.com/havacili...oughda-100-milyarlik-pazarlik.html (Turkish)
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:43 pm

talking about ESB and traffic rights, I'm still in some way suprised that Atlasjet and Onurair don't try hard to enter IST-ESB market. It is completely left to TK (except Pegasus from SAW).
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:47 pm

Quoting tcm (Reply 30):
I wonder how people would vote after having eaten stuffed eggplant on every flight. The köfte (meatball) dish is still the same for almost three years now. So is the chocolate mousse    Sorry for the rant.

Funny, but the news story makes specific mention of the winning menu which included the eggplant, kofte, and a tart that scored rating of 86/100 from the survey participants.

So sounds like you will have eggplant and the kofte for years to come on each flight, as they were what was received by the best public and were the winning recipe after all.
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:24 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 37):
Funny, but the news story makes specific mention of the winning menu which included the eggplant, kofte, and a tart that scored rating of 86/100 from the survey participants.

So sounds like you will have eggplant and the kofte for years to come on each flight, as they were what was received by the best public and were the winning recipe after all.

I actually made reference to those meals on purpose after reading the article to which you have provided the link for  

Nope, I take my revenge on TK by ordering special meals from now on for my short/mid haul flights. This month it's KSML and then I'll go for Hindu  The public can keep eating the eggplant...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:00 pm

Airblue delink SAW from MAN starting 16 September when MAN goes nonstop.

[Edited 2012-07-11 08:02:23]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:06 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 37):
talking about ESB and traffic rights, I'm still in some way suprised that Atlasjet and Onurair don't try hard to enter IST-ESB market. It is completely left to TK (except Pegasus from SAW).

Atlas tried it long time ago . I even rode in one of their CRJs just to support the route. The Turkish government won't let anyone touch this route.. it's one of them unwritten rules of the country..
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:06 pm

Guys, i am tired of waiting for this order.... Where is it...?
So here is my wishlist:
10 77W
8 77L (for Australia and South America ops)
15 333 (343 replacement + growth)
10 332
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:22 pm

Quoting tcm (Reply 38):
The public can keep eating the eggplant...

I guess its now the world famous THY Do&Co signature dish. I suppose until the ratings go down it will stick around and be served to millions of passengers.

Quoting bahadir (Reply 40):
The Turkish government won't let anyone touch this route.. it's one of them unwritten rules of the country..

In many places in the world its hard to break into such a shuttle market, not just Turkey.

For instance in Spain airlines have tried various times to go after the Iberia MAD-BCN shuttle without much long term success. Only now once the high speed train arrived in Spain has the IB route suffered.

The sheer volume of flights offered by someone like THY (for example 25 on July 11th), its frequent flyer program, and overall market allegiance make it hard to break into the route by a smaller competitor. Also dont forget a competitor would need more slots at IST - not very easy to get these days. But for now PGT can give the best challenge to TK by offering its service from SAW.
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:23 pm

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 41):

Guys, i am tired of waiting for this order.... Where is it...?
So here is my wishlist:
10 77W
8 77L (for Australia and South America ops)
15 333 (343 replacement + growth)
10 332

Yeah, we all are waiting as well ...   

I actually find your wishlist more pragmatic than the A380 and B748 lists seen here ...

But some A350s or B787s would be nice too!  
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:23 am

TK's numbers keep impressing. First half year results: passenger numbers jump 20% year-on-year to 17,7 million in the January-June period. The overall L/F jumped 5,7 points to 75,2%.

Link: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...kishairlines-idUSI7E8H101R20120712
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:03 am

Quoting tcm (Reply 44):
The overall L/F jumped 5,7 points to 75,2%

Wow, 75.2 % is quite impressive. I remember time when it was in the low 60 %.

Quoting ASA (Reply 43):
But some A350s or B787s would be nice too!

I guess till TK orders one of these aircraft and gets them delivered, the new airport will be operational already...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:16 pm

Igdır Airport in Eastern Turkey is going to be inaugurated on July 13th, 2012.

AnadoluJet will commence thrice weekly direct service between Ankara and Igdır by 737-700 initially to commence on 13 July 2012.

The service is expected to increase to 5 weekly from end of October.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:55 pm

Skytrax award for 'Best Airline In Europe' goes again for the second consecutive year to TK. I'm sure we have a few people that would disagree with that here...

See: http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-in...n-named-best-airline-europe-again-
 
LAXintl
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:56 pm

And THY again wins the Skytrax award as Best European Airline for 2012 !
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tcm
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2012

Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:04 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 48):

And THY again wins the Skytrax award as Best European Airline for 2012 !

I'll get myself voted best passenger of the year by Skytrax 

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